FlavourArt Club ... formally known as the PureVapes thread

[Oggy]

OK so I have been lazy the last couple weeks and using joose from my local B&M. His joose isn't to bad on price but I got 30% off coupon so I splurged a little. I did get 300 ml mixed up today so I should be good for a bit I mixed up 30 ml each of Mama J's SBerry Custard, Mama J's C.V. Irish Cream and Mama J's Rep-Pep RD (wllmc's Dr F'n Pepper). I am vaping the SBerry now and like the Strawberry alot. My wife likes the Strawberry smell also, so thats an added bonus. You can get the flavor base (Specialty Flavors) here to try http://mamajsjuice.com/specialty-shop/all-flavors/

 

[ouzel]

I haven't finished catching up on this thread, if I remember correctly, Nude Nicotine has Tamarind flavoring. I agree, there's nothing like a sprinkle of chile & a squeeze of lime to bring out the flavor in fruit. I grew up in TX and spent many weekends and vacations in MX, just for the eats, drinks, hunting & fishing. Mmmm aqua fresca & fresh, chile sprinkled fruit just can't be beat.

Yesh. Like adding salt to a cookie recipe...the spiciness and saltiness bring out the flavor in fruit.
Except bananas.
Never put salt on a banana.

 

[JXN]

I wish you wouldn't have said that. I have 1 banana left.

 

[stasek]

Could use a little insight here...
I've mixed up the following:
Pear 4.00% FE
Apricot 2.00% FA
Mango 2.00% FA
Bavarian Cream 3.00% LA
Fresh Cream 2.00% FA

After couple days of steeping, I'm really enjoying this.... up until post exhale. The flavor is really good, the exhale has a very nice complex mix and then.... the damn sweaty gym socks kick in! I'm guessing it's probably FE Pear, but I could be wrong. Anyone tried something similar?
I'm probably going to mix up a small batch without Pear, but in the meantime I'm puzzled.

On a happier note, my 30 flavor FA order from eliquidmart has been shipped! Too bad I'm not going to be able to mix anything till next week I'm going away to sunny FL to play some golf ! This white crap covering the ground and sub 0 temps are getting old...

 

[HeadInClouds]

Could use a little insight here...
I've mixed up the following:
Pear 4.00% FE
Apricot 2.00% FA
Mango 2.00% FA
Bavarian Cream 3.00% LA
Fresh Cream 2.00% FA

After couple days of steeping, I'm really enjoying this.... up until post exhale. The flavor is really good, the exhale has a very nice complex mix and then.... the damn sweaty gym socks kick in! I'm guessing it's probably FE Pear, but I could be wrong. Anyone tried something similar?
I'm probably going to mix up a small batch without Pear, but in the meantime I'm puzzled.

On a happier note, my 30 flavor FA order from eliquidmart has been shipped! Too bad I'm not going to be able to mix anything till next week I'm going away to sunny FL to play some golf ! This white crap covering the ground and sub 0 temps are getting old...

The gym socks could be from FE Pear or Bavarian Cream. I would mix this again without those, vape some, add one of them, vape a little, then add the last. That way you'll know for sure.

Pear flavors make themselves known through the end of the exhale, so if something is funky with FE's version, that's when you'd notice it - right at the end. I've heard of weirdness with Lorann's creamy flavors, too. Once you identify the culprit, you can try using half as much of that flavoring (keeping others the same) and hope the other flavors drown it out.

FA Pear is a really excellent flavor. If that FE Pear turns out to be the problem, you'll love it with FlavourArt's version.

 

[newyork13]

Welcome!
So you were using vendor liquids that whole time? I'm always curious which brands/flavors people used, and why they started DIY instead.

I love curiosity HIC. And BTW thank you so much for all your posts on recipes and FA notes. Great stuff.
I got off cigs with Halo Tribeca, which I used for 2-3 months. Then tried several of the usuals (Mother's Milk, Boba's...) Then Nicoticket for a couple of months. Then moved around alot (5Pawns, POET...) Most recently was using Ahlusion and Mountain Oak and ECBlends.
There have been others, mostly rejects though.
I got drawn to DIY for two main reasons. Actually three: many of the juices which people loved struck me as heavy, cloying and overdone. But the two main reasons: First, I care about and would like to control what I put into my bod. Second, I've been experiencing sensitivities to juices which had never bothered me before. For example, I happily vaped on several POET juices for weeks. Then out of nowhere, they started making me cough and etc. Some folks have said that p'haps I need to reduce my nic. But, I don't buy this, since other juices same nic level cause no issue. I haven't figured out what's going on with this.
But, anyway, as I've discovered, the cost of these flavorings and unflavored bases are pretty cheap compared to premades. So, it is worth fooling with, and some fun too. I could have gone on longer, but that's it in a nutshell.

 

[stasek]

Thanks for the info! Too bad ECX was out of a lot of FA flavors when I made my initial order .
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I just joined a FB diy e-liquid group and it looks like FA is not very highly regarded (not that it really matters). Everyone keeps mentioning TFA, CAP, FW, and hardly anybody uses FA. I know it's a personal preference what tastes good, and every manufacturer has some good and bad flavorings, but this seems strange.
Oh well, of to the mixing station.... Or maybe Oscars???? Decisions, decisions...

 

[newyork13]

I've been playing with the FA flavors I bought. I couldn't resist the Hypnotic Myst. Mixed a bit without any other flavors at 4%. It didn't taste bad, but I wasn't sure what it tasted like either. As I emptied out the remnants from the 10ml bottle and cleaned it out to try my next experiment, damned if I couldn't get the scent out of it. It's taken me three soap and water rinses and I still smell it in there.
Reminds me of 5 Pawns Absolute Pin, which to me was very heavy licorice, and which took lots of work to get the smell out of my gear. Funny.

 

[HeadInClouds]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I just joined a FB diy e-liquid group and it looks like FA is not very highly regarded (not that it really matters). Everyone keeps mentioning TFA, CAP, FW, and hardly anybody uses FA. I know it's a personal preference what tastes good, and every manufacturer has some good and bad flavorings, but this seems strange.
Oh well, of to the mixing station.... Or maybe Oscars???? Decisions, decisions...

I think it's best to decide for yourself. Don't take their word for it, and don't take ours either. Pick a few flavors from each brand and find which appeal to you. After using TFA and FW, I was thrilled with FA flavors, for two reasons: they actually taste like the flavor name, and they're all useable within a very narrow range of percentages. When I started mixing with FA, not a lot of people were using them. They've become more popular over the past 18 months or so. (Could be some people are behind the times *snicker*)

 

[RocketPuppy]

I haven't finished catching up on this thread, if I remember correctly, Nude Nicotine has Tamarind flavoring. I agree, there's nothing like a sprinkle of chile & a squeeze of lime to bring out the flavor in fruit. I grew up in TX and spent many weekends and vacations in MX, just for the eats, drinks, hunting & fishing. Mmmm aqua fresca & fresh, chile sprinkled fruit just can't be beat.

YOU ARE MY GODSEND!!!!

 

[RocketPuppy]

@newyork13 - I am an ry4 freak. I, too, began began with Tribeca and have tried way too many pre-mades that I never liked as much. I like FA's RY4, but it's not my favorite. I don't like to recommend my own stuff, but I think this stuff is pretty darn good. http://vapingunderground.com/threads/rocketpuppys-ry4.11144/
You could easily change it to FA RY4 if you drop the percentage. I actually used it in quite a few attempts, but it just didn't taste as good to me.

 

[stasek]

HIC - by now I'm pretty sure I'm "pot committed", to use a poker term, to FA . I would lie if I said your wonderful "notes" and recipes had nothing to do with my decision to go "all in" with FA. I grew up in Europe, so european-style flavors are nothing new to me.

 

[Huckleberried]

If you look around other DIY forums, you'll notice that a lot of people have used FA at outrageously high percentages. I've often heard and agree with, that people have gotten so used to mixing other brands at higher #s that they end up doing the same with FA and not enjoying it. They're over-flavoring. I was quite shocked at how good things are with FA and the low %. It's wonderful

 

[Huckleberried]

@newyork13 - I am an ry4 freak. I, too, began began with Tribeca and have tried way too many pre-mades that I never liked as much. I like FA's RY4, but it's not my favorite. I don't like to recommend my own stuff, but I think this stuff is pretty darn good. http://vapingunderground.com/threads/rocketpuppys-ry4.11144/
You could easily change it to FA RY4 if you drop the percentage. I actually used it in quite a few attempts, but it just didn't taste as good to me.

Nothing wrong with recommending your own stuff. Especially when it's THIS GOOD! She's selling herself short, @newyork13. Her RY4 recipe is an EXCELLENT vape.

 

[caddisfly]

If you look around other DIY forums, you'll notice that a lot of people have used FA at outrageously high percentages. I've often heard and agree with, that people have gotten so used to mixing other brands at higher #s that they end up doing the same with FA and not enjoying it. They're over-flavoring. I was quite shocked at how good things are with FA and the low %. It's wonderful

You're right Huckleberried. Having started with TFA, I'm having a heck of a time trying to break the high percentage habit. It makes for some odd looking recipes when I mix the two brands. Oh, well...

 

[Huckleberried]

Lol, yep. But, it also has me using less than the avg on other brands. Pretty cool

 

[Huckleberried]

Thinking on that, I mixed up something yesterday with 3 brands. The highest number was 6% and it's not the dominate flavor, lol. The dominate flavor was 2% of a non FA flavor, then the 1% of the FA flavor kinda smooooooothed things over. Crazy stuff.

 

[LoveVanilla]

That's just so wrong. Don't forget the bacon.

Or the toast / bread crust

 

[LoveVanilla]

Can I be your side kick...I love VANILLA!

Why thank you Daintanee! Are you always so direct? Hehe....

 

[Seb0011]

Hi all, long time vaper and DIY TFA failure master, I have only recently found pure vapes thread in the other place and spent some time reading all the posts. what great info, tips and recommendations I found there. I laughed, i cried and boy did i learn. Sadly im only on page 38 here, still trying working through it all, but wanted to say thanks to everyone. My DIY finally improving and I made a pact with myself to stop buying into the unknown of the so called premium and brick n mortar juices. Id like to share a recent mix i made. Not sure if it has been tried but seems to be quite vapeable.

Bilrish cream
6ml total 33 drops per ml
1.5% or 3 drops Irish cream
1% or 2 drops Bilberry
.5% or 1 drop fresh cream
Top off 5.82ml of base mine is 4.25% VT nic and EssDep VG/PG 70/30
shake and vape
Hope its not too much of a disappointment.

Its funny how one feels after reading over 3200 posts, and still going, with a central cast of characters how at home I feel. THANK YOU ALL!! Hope to post more of my failures.. I mean recipes Back to reading and note taking.

and HIC the Lemon Torrone Parfait on gumroad is absolute perfection. Thanks for that ill definitely be grabbing a payfor next time around.

 

[misswish]

Welcome, Seb! Glad you found us here. Wasn't that the best thread? This is the continuation, and is even better! Thanks for sharing your recipe with us.

 

[wllmc]

Bilrish cream
6ml total 33 drops per ml
1.5% or 3 drops Irish cream
1% or 2 drops Bilberry
.5% or 1 drop fresh cream
Top off 5.82ml of base mine is 4.25% VT nic and EssDep VG/PG 70/30
shake and vape

looks good ! I do one pretty darn close to this but then I top it off with 1.5 ish % of chocolate and about 0.5% cocoa welcome to the thread !

 

[Huckleberried]

Hiya Seb. Your mix looks good to me! I've been playing a bit with Irish cream laty, myself. Sounds like you ingested the other thread and felt a lot of what we did then, too. It's so nice to know people keep up
With that still.

Welcome to the gang


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[wllmc]

ECF needs to sticky that thread and close it with a link to here. at least then the DIY category would be worth looking at. HAHAHAHAHA KIDDING !!!!! only kidding.

 

[Smokachino]

Hi all, long time vaper and DIY TFA failure master, I have only recently found pure vapes thread in the other place and spent some time reading all the posts. what great info, tips and recommendations I found there. I laughed, i cried and boy did i learn. Sadly im only on page 38 here, still trying working through it all, but wanted to say thanks to everyone. My DIY finally improving and I made a pact with myself to stop buying into the unknown of the so called premium and brick n mortar juices. Id like to share a recent mix i made. Not sure if it has been tried but seems to be quite vapeable.

Bilrish cream
6ml total 33 drops per ml
1.5% or 3 drops Irish cream
1% or 2 drops Bilberry
.5% or 1 drop fresh cream
Top off 5.82ml of base mine is 4.25% VT nic and EssDep VG/PG 70/30
shake and vape
Hope its not too much of a disappointment.

Its funny how one feels after reading over 3200 posts, and still going, with a central cast of characters how at home I feel. THANK YOU ALL!! Hope to post more of my failures.. I mean recipes Back to reading and note taking.

and HIC the Lemon Torrone Parfait on gumroad is absolute perfection. Thanks for that ill definitely be grabbing a payfor next time around.

Welcome, and thanks so much for sharing your recipe. It looks really interesting and totally vapeable . Glad you found your way here!

 

[AmandaD]

Welcome! Glad you found us here - your DIY is about to be a huge success

 

[RocketPuppy]

Hi all, long time vaper and DIY TFA failure master, I have only recently found pure vapes thread in the other place and spent some time reading all the posts. what great info, tips and recommendations I found there. I laughed, i cried and boy did i learn. Sadly im only on page 38 here, still trying working through it all, but wanted to say thanks to everyone. My DIY finally improving and I made a pact with myself to stop buying into the unknown of the so called premium and brick n mortar juices. Id like to share a recent mix i made. Not sure if it has been tried but seems to be quite vapeable.

Bilrish cream
6ml total 33 drops per ml
1.5% or 3 drops Irish cream
1% or 2 drops Bilberry
.5% or 1 drop fresh cream
Top off 5.82ml of base mine is 4.25% VT nic and EssDep VG/PG 70/30
shake and vape
Hope its not too much of a disappointment.

Its funny how one feels after reading over 3200 posts, and still going, with a central cast of characters how at home I feel. THANK YOU ALL!! Hope to post more of my failures.. I mean recipes Back to reading and note taking.

and HIC the Lemon Torrone Parfait on gumroad is absolute perfection. Thanks for that ill definitely be grabbing a payfor next time around.

Recipe looks fantastic! Thank you!

 

[Seb0011]

I completely agree with you wllmc, a direct link here would be Great those still stuck there.
It definetly was, I was so mad I waisted all that time and money on tfa. Live and learn

I'm still getting used to the favors .75 % bilberry might blend nicer for some people. @ 1% it's very noticeable and strong.

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone,

 

[HeadInClouds]

It definetly was, I was so mad I waisted all that time and money on tfa. Live and learn

I should post a shot of my reject-flavors storage area(s).

 

[Daintanee]

Hi all, long time vaper and DIY TFA failure master, I have only recently found pure vapes thread in the other place and spent some time reading all the posts. what great info, tips and recommendations I found there. I laughed, i cried and boy did i learn. Sadly im only on page 38 here, still trying working through it all, but wanted to say thanks to everyone. My DIY finally improving and I made a pact with myself to stop buying into the unknown of the so called premium and brick n mortar juices. Id like to share a recent mix i made. Not sure if it has been tried but seems to be quite vapeable.

Bilrish cream
6ml total 33 drops per ml
1.5% or 3 drops Irish cream
1% or 2 drops Bilberry
.5% or 1 drop fresh cream
Top off 5.82ml of base mine is 4.25% VT nic and EssDep VG/PG 70/30
shake and vape
Hope its not too much of a disappointment.

Its funny how one feels after reading over 3200 posts, and still going, with a central cast of characters how at home I feel. THANK YOU ALL!! Hope to post more of my failures.. I mean recipes Back to reading and note taking.

and HIC the Lemon Torrone Parfait on gumroad is absolute perfection. Thanks for that ill definitely be grabbing a payfor next time around.

Hey there!!! A warm welcome and thank you! I'm loving Irish cream! I bet this is good!

 

[newyork13]

@newyork13 - I am an ry4 freak. I, too, began began with Tribeca and have tried way too many pre-mades that I never liked as much. I like FA's RY4, but it's not my favorite. I don't like to recommend my own stuff, but I think this stuff is pretty darn good. http://vapingunderground.com/threads/rocketpuppys-ry4.11144/
You could easily change it to FA RY4 if you drop the percentage. I actually used it in quite a few attempts, but it just didn't taste as good to me.

Thanks Rocket. I'll definitely give it a try, after I get some of the Vanilla Bourbon, all I have is the classic.

 

[newyork13]

As part of my initial inventory, I got some FA Burley. Mostly because I haven't been enjoying tobaccos, but I'd like to and have a change from desserts and fruits.
Anybody have any suggestions about using it straight or mixing it?

 

[RocketPuppy]

As part of my initial inventory, I got some FA Burley. Mostly because I haven't been enjoying tobaccos, but I'd like to and have a change from desserts and fruits.
Anybody have any suggestions about using it straight or mixing it?

Yes...http://vapingunderground.com/threads/hics-light-american-cigarette-replacement.2927/

 

[Smokachino]

II was so mad I waisted all that time and money on tfa. Live and learn

Oh, how I can relate to this! I spent a ton on TFA at Wizard Labs and even bought a special rack for all the cute little vials And I won't even mention some of the recipes I tried LOL! Like you said, though, live and learn, and I still use a few select TFA flavors. Some are great, (I couldn't live without Cheesecake Graham), but overall FA has them beat hands down!

 

[RocketPuppy]

Oh, how I can relate to this! I spent a ton on TFA at Wizard Labs and even bought a special rack for all the cute little vials And I won't even mention some of the recipes I tried LOL! Like you said, though, live and learn, and I still use a few select TFA flavors. Some are great, (I couldn't live without Cheesecake Graham), but overall FA has them beat hands down!

Yep, yep, and yep...exactly me

 

[AmandaD]

Oh, how I can relate to this! I spent a ton on TFA at Wizard Labs and even bought a special rack for all the cute little vials And I won't even mention some of the recipes I tried LOL! Like you said, though, live and learn, and I still use a few select TFA flavors. Some are great, (I couldn't live without Cheesecake Graham), but overall FA has them beat hands down!

OMG, I did exactly the same thing! And darn, my FA flavors won't even fit the rack LOL Let's not begin on some of the recipes I made......I almost gave up, and then I found the PV thread!

 

[caddisfly]

The PV thread on the forum that shall not be named turned me on to Flavour Arts completely by chance. Then the site drove me here with their overbearing attitude. Other than rereading the PV thread a couple of times, I haven't looked back. I feel at home now.

 

[JXN]

Yes, I agree that FA Orange can be stronger than expected!
If you let this one sit a day or two, it will taste different. I predict you'll taste more cinnamon, less orange and maple, and overall sweeter. My predictions aren't always right, so I hope you'll post back how it changes if you let it settle a while.

Sampled some more yesterday. The spices still out of balance. I replaced what I vaped with just the rum, a 40% reduction in other flavors. The orange was then subtle and I think will work. Overriding flavor changed from the morning when I was getting strong maple and caramel to the afternoon when the maple settled and I started getting stronger chocolate. Still happy with the cinamon. I'm going to divide the testing into two parts and make a flavor bottle diluting the 0.25% spices used and seperate the base of rum in which I want more vanilla. Probably raise the % of Rum used which is kinda like diluting the spices.

 

[Daintanee]

Wow! I'm kinda nervous to reply here. I don't wanna get my booty kicked! I was way fortunate! I never read or belonged to the place that must not be named! Haha! Reminds me of Harry Potter! Great books, movies stunk! Squirrel! Anyway I was blessed to start out right here! If the place not to be named starts with an r I recently opened up an account just to help promote Wllmc & HIC! But I did try the space jam andromeda clone as well as the Tribeca clone here... The TriBeCa was vapable, but meh! The andromeda was horrid to me! But that's my taste buds! To each their own! Oh and all make me feel wonderful here! I feel like an alien at the r place! Only cool cats there are from here, or I'm shunned! But glad they gave Wllmc lots of business. Anyway, thanks you guys & gals for being who u r!

 

[Daintanee]

Sampled some more yesterday. The spices still out of balance. I replaced what I vaped with just the rum, a 40% reduction in other flavors. The orane was then subtle and I think will work. Overriding flavor changed from the morning when I was getting strong maple and caramel to the afternoon when the maple settled and I started getting stronger chocolate. Still happy with the cinamon. I'm going to divide the testing into two parts and make a flavor bottle diluting the 0.25% spices used and seperate the base of rum in which I want more vanilla. Probably raise the % of Rum used which is kinda like diluting the spices.

Now, this is just awesome! It's like we are all learning right along with you and that is so cool of you, and beneficial to us all! Thank you!

 

[Huckleberried]

No, @daintenee, it didn't start with an R. The one in question did start with an ECF, though.


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[caddisfly]

No, @daintenee, it didn't start with an R. The one in question did start with an ECF, though.


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I was racking my brain trying to figure that out. I figured it was a typo...An odd one.

 

[caddisfly]

Wow! I'm kinda nervous to reply here. I don't wanna get my booty kicked! I was way fortunate! I never read or belonged to the place that must not be named! Haha! Reminds me of Harry Potter! Great books, movies stunk! Squirrel! Anyway I was blessed to start out right here! If the place not to be named starts with an r I recently opened up an account just to help promote Wllmc & HIC! But I did try the space jam andromeda clone as well as the Tribeca clone here... The TriBeCa was vapable, but meh! The andromeda was horrid to me! But that's my taste buds! To each their own! Oh and all make me feel wonderful here! I feel like an alien at the r place! Only cool cats there are from here, or I'm shunned! But glad they gave Wllmc lots of business. Anyway, thanks you guys & gals for being who u r!

That's just the point. No one gets their booty kicked around here. At the old place I was told in no uncertain terms to use vaping terms correctly. I was posting in the newby forum where you must post until they deem you adequately contrite and let you post in the forum at large.

Ilike both the books and the movies. I'm easy.

 

[Daintanee]

No, @daintenee, it didn't start with an R. The one in question did start with an ECF, though.


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Oh no, Huck....you named the place that must not be named!

 

[Huckleberried]

Lmao!! Awesome


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[Daintanee]

Hey all, ? If a person sub ohms, how would it affect recipes? Does anyone know?

 

[Smoky Blue]

Juice changes with both temp and coils..
also changes from what blend of pg/vg one uses too..

and it takes knowing those changes to make one's juice taste comparative from one blend to another..
i have one juice that when used by a reg mech, tastes all buttery rumish..
but when used in a cheapo set up.. is creamy with just a hint of butter rum..
depends on what you are aiming for too.. play with your flavors and set ups and see for yourself

 

[Daintanee]

Juice changes with both temp and coils..
also changes from what blend of pg/vg one uses too..

and it takes knowing those changes to make one's juice taste comparative from one blend to another..
i have one juice that when used by a reg mech, tastes all buttery rumish..
but when used in a cheapo set up.. is creamy with just a hint of butter rum..
depends on what you are aiming for too.. play with your flavors and set ups and see for yourself

Thank you SMOKY, much obliged. Unfortunately I don't sub ohm, but the 2 kids I mix for just started. But at least I am aware there may be differences in taste now.

 

[caddisfly]

Hey all, ? If a person sub ohms, how would it affect recipes? Does anyone know?

Hi Daintanee. I have 2 dripping atomizers I use for testing. An Atomic built with 28g wire at 1.4 ohms, and a Venturi built with 24g wire at .6 ohms. Both are know for their superior flavor production. These are on a Sigelei 100 and 150 respectively. The only conclusion I can draw when testing side by side is that the warmer vape (the subohm) seems to have noticeably better flavor with the juice I tested. I tested both at 18 watts and also switched boxes. It still holds.

That was one juice containing maple syrup, custard, cake batter, and caramel. With other juices I don't know what will happen as this is the first time I did a side by side with both atomizers. If I find any big differences with other juices I'll let you know.

Not much to go on, I know. I believe Smoky Blue is right and you are going to have to find out for yourself.

Edit. I didn't answer your question, did I? I'll try. I understand that some flavors don't do well or burn at high temps. I believe HIC said that happens to FA cocoa. I also know from the commons here and on Vapors TV that cloud chasers often use toned down juices so that the flavor hit isn't too much for them. Less flavor required? I suppose. Well, that didn't help much either.

 

[Smoky Blue]

Hi Daintanee. I have 2 dripping atomizers I use for testing. An Atomic built with 28g wire at 1.4 ohms, and a Venturi built with 24g wire at .6 ohms. Both are know for their superior flavor production. These are on a Sigelei 100 and 150 respectively. The only conclusion I can draw when testing side by side is that the warmer vape (the subohm) seems to have noticeably better flavor with the juice I tested. I tested both at 18 watts and also switched boxes. It still holds.

That was one juice containing maple syrup, custard, cake batter, and caramel. With other juices I don't know what will happen as this is the first time I did a side by side with both atomizers. If I find any big differences with other juices I'll let you know.

Not much to go on, I know. I believe Smoky Blue is right and you are going to have to find out for yourself.

Edit. I didn't answer your question, did I? I'll try. I understand that some flavors don't do well or burn at high temps. I believe HIC said that happens to FA cocoa. I also know from the commons here and on Vapors TV that cloud chasers often use toned down juices so that the flavor hit isn't too much for them. Less flavor required? I suppose. Well, that didn't help much either.

this is why you test out single flavors first.. on many different set ups..
especially if you mix for others.. for just self.. do what you think taste good.