Here is a screenshot. Apparently the quote is listed twice in the articleIt's not there either mang.
Just face it... you got caught, plain and simple.
And all the deflecting in the world won't change that.
Here is a screenshot. Apparently the quote is listed twice in the articleIt's not there either mang.
Just face it... you got caught, plain and simple.
And all the deflecting in the world won't change that.
AgreedYa prolly shoulda led with this one...
It's very convenient to discredit all other opinions. You kniw so much more than everybody. If this were all democratic liberals stating this I would agree with you. But it isn't the case.
I never claimed that article said anything was proven in a legally binding way. That post was a response to a request for the law that is supposed to have been violatedWell, I did read the whole article you quoted from. It appears you did not.
"Legal experts told ABC News that, based on news reports, it warrants investigation into whether Donald Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort violated any laws."
Apparently, you missed the parts, even in the title, that the "experts" say it "warrants an investigation" and Jr MAY have violated laws.
No where in that article do the "experts" claim that the emails are proof that Jr committed a fucking crime. All they say is, the emails show Jr MAY have committed a crime but they need more fucking information(investigation).
You should have read the whole thing. You say that the emails prove Jr committed a crime and you say that's what the experts say. But you only read what you needed to confirm your bias. Your "experts" do not make the claim that you make.
I said the emails prove that he had the meeting and his intent. I also said that it is clear that it is a crime to solicit damaging information about a political opponent from a foreign country. I also said that he admitted to his intent behind the meeting. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for violating. Until everything is known it is all pretty damning. So, we will just have to wait and see how it all pans out.Well, I did read the whole article you quoted from. It appears you did not.
"Legal experts told ABC News that, based on news reports, it warrants investigation into whether Donald Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort violated any laws."
Apparently, you missed the parts, even in the title, that the "experts" say it "warrants an investigation" and Jr MAY have violated laws.
No where in that article do the "experts" claim that the emails are proof that Jr committed a fucking crime. All they say is, the emails show Jr MAY have committed a crime but they need more fucking information(investigation).
You should have read the whole thing. You say that the emails prove Jr committed a crime and you say that's what the experts say. But you only read what you needed to confirm your bias. Your "experts" do not make the claim that you make.
I never claimed that article said anything was proven in a legally binding way. That post was a response to a request for the law that is supposed to have been violated
There are plenty of legal experts stating exactly that right now. So unless you are a legal expert, I will put more faith in what they are saying than your doubt.
damaging information about a political opponent.
damaging information about a political opponent.
The legal experts have said what I said. If there is sufficient evidence to show intent of soliciting the service of a foreign country to obtain valuable information it is a violation of the law. I also stated that it appears obvious that that has occurred.Yes you fucking did.
You're putting more faith in what the fucking legal experts say but they have not fucking said it?
Again, you are willing to excuse law because you like what happened.If there was in fact:
And that information was proof of illegal acts; than who cares where the information comes from?
Shouldn't we all know what that information is?
And on that note what is the information?
Do we have it?
If not why is she being protected?
Why is the focus on junior trying to obtain it rather than what IT is?
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The analysis they have done seems very solid to me. I wish they could prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt but it certainly gives pause for us all to realize how we are being manipulated.
I always thought the hack was convenient. I don't trust any politician without some level of skepticism. I have said this before. They are pretty much all snakes. We will probably never know the truth about any of the election tampering claims.
Having said all that, the Republicans are just as shady and also have not earned my trust. I have voted Republican more often than Democrat, but not because of trust. It's always a case of the lesser of two evils. I really hate this reality but what can one do about it? Blindly follow a party? Not this guy.
The one thing I am good at is being subjective. I often play the devil's advocate to see how people react. This is a flaw for me but I can't help it. There is no better way to get an honest opinion out of someone. It is manipulative and I realize that. It's a skill that has done me good being a 26 year IT veteran.
I honestly believe nearly everything we think we know is in some way flawed. Our only option is to try and see other possibilities in or to get a more objective point of view.
My distrust of Trump started long before any of this Russian nonsense. I am so disappointed in the republicans for not giving me a better choice to vote for. He has shown that he is not suited for the office he is in and I keep hoping for things to turn for the better. This is my true opinion on all of this, regardless of who else believes it.
This thing with Trump Jr bothers me so much because it casts even more doubt on so many things it makes my stomach turn. Whether or not I am taking this all too seriously remains to be seen. It just exposes lie after lie by the Trump campaign.
I also swear to you that I didn't really believe the whole Russian connection at all. Then the Comey firing seemed sketchy at best. I still think there is way more to that story. The Jr thing is almost like the last straw for me that there is any hope of something positive coming out of this administration. I still hold out hope, as hard as that may be to believe.
This deflects from the real issue that regardless of any interpretation of the law that he lied repeatedly about having knowingly met with anyone that had involvement with the Russian government. These emails absolutely show that those statements were untrue.
Not only that, this meeting was not disclosed by Kushner in his application for security clearance. I bet all you guys will believe he simply forgot or didn't know better. How naive.
Negative sir...Again, you are willing to excuse law because you like what happened.
See my other post about the repeated lies that they never met with anyone affiliated with the Russian government.
But you know what I don't really care how you all look at this. It is your choice. As I said before it is what it is.
Than where is the information; which should lend credence to the aforementioned claim.damaging information about a political opponent.
So, I don't doubt any of that is real. But if you expect me to trust Russia and Trump because they have such good intentions I don't really buy into that. If it takes two evils to keep the others in check, ok.I applaud you for taking the time to look at that objectively. Good start. You have taken the first Step into the understanding that you are being lied to on a regular basis by the media and government. There is A LOT MORE to the story.
I am the first to agree both parties are to blame. Thing is it is all a stage show to distract the masses from realizing that our 2 party Duopoly is all a scam because our politicians are corrupt in both parties and answering to the Deep State through bribery & blackmail. This shadow government is run by the Rothchild Banking Empire using the Intelligence communities of Isreal, England, Saudi Araba, and the US.
If you honestly want to end foreign influence over our elections, you need to realize that the DNC, Hillary, & the Deep State actually fixed the election so Hillary would win. The program they used tainted the results from 5 states electronic Voting machines in her favor before true Patriots in our Intelligence Community stopped the program from running. Trump might have lost if he wasn't actually 20% ahead in the real polls. Tough to hear but true.
Trump was the candidate approached by the true patriots in the Intelligence Community to champion the cause to oppose and fight the treasonous GLOBALIST DEEP STATE PLAN to establish a fascist WORLD GOVERNMENT from the United Nations and institute AGENDA 21, AGENDA 30, and OUTLOOK 2050 after they started WW3 with Russia to break the assault on the Petro Dollar & depopulate. Trump is opposed by most everyone in government, Dems & Repubs alike.
- Syria is about:
- Installing a Central Bank run by Rothchilds. (as was Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, (Iran, & North Korea)
- Building a NG pipeline from Saudi Arabia to the EU.
- Partitioning country so Isreal can annex expliot a huge oil field they found in West Bank/Syria. Genie Oil (Rothchilds, Dick Cheney, & others) out of NJ is set to develop.
- North Korea is about
- Installing a Central Bank run by Rothchilds.
- Kim has expanded ****** Trade to 10% of world production & Deep State, pappa Bush, HRC, DC, Rothchilds want to add that to their haul from Afghanistan.
- NAFTA, TPP, & the EU one actually suborned individual countries sovereignty to International Corporations & Banks & sap wealth from USA.
- The Paris Climate Accord was a global wealth redistribution & equalization effort designed to sap wealth from USA.
- Agenda 21, Agenda 30, Outlook 2050 is plan to depopulate, confiscate wealth, suborn masses & heard remaining into mega cities.
Do some research & you will be appalled. It is all published on UN Websites & NASA Website (for their involvement). The more you learn, the more you will realize these are not conspiracy theories.
If you are truly a patriot & want to stop foreign influence, get involved in the #Unrig effort & educate your liberal friends in the truth you uncover. Do not believe the Media, not even Fox if you are indeed a republican. The USA has been run by foreign influence since before the Civil War.
See my other post about the repeated lies that they never met with anyone affiliated with the Russian government.
Yes Sherlock, but they thought she was and it's the only reason they agreed to meet with her.Again, Einstein. Natalia is not affiliated with the Russian government.
It makes no difference if they ultimately received any information. The fact they agreed to a meeting for that purpose is enough.Negative sir...
1) if someone is raising hell and screaming that junior
Than where is the information; which should lend credence to the aforementioned claim.
2) if this information existed and it was so damaging
A) what damage did it cause to present it's value
B) was she conducting illegal activity?
ii) why isn't she being charged or going through this ridiculous public debate.
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Yes Sherlock, but they thought she was and it's the only reason they agreed to meet with her.
More excuses. How many will you make? They met with her under the premise of her ties to the Russian government and the promise of damaging information on a political opponent. Pretending it doesn't matter if she was lieing is ludicrous.Well, there is a fucking lie. She was not from the Russian government. She is a private fucking attorney. A private Russian national.
Jr, a private US citizen met with Natalia, a private Russian civilian. Not the fucking Russian government.
There is lie number two in the same post. Kushner did not initially disclose the meeting but did so later. They say the NYT find out about the meeting because kushner disclosed it.
Kushner amended his paperwork likely because he knew it was going to come out. Why wasn't it disclosed in the first place? You think you would get away with that?Well, there is a fucking lie. She was not from the Russian government. She is a private fucking attorney. A private Russian national.
Jr, a private US citizen met with Natalia, a private Russian civilian. Not the fucking Russian government.
There is lie number two in the same post. Kushner did not initially disclose the meeting but did so later. They say the NYT find out about the meeting because kushner disclosed it.
More excuses. How many will you make? They met with her under the premise of her ties to the Russian government and the promise of damaging information on a political opponent. Pretending it doesn't matter if she was lieing is ludicrous.
Tell me what their intent was genius.
So thisIt makes no difference if they ultimately received any information. The fact they agreed to a meeting for that purpose is enough.
If you solicit someone to get assistance in order to kill, injure, destroy their life, etc. it is a crime regardless of whether you do it or use it. This is a matter of intent.
damaging information about a political opponent.
I applaud you for taking the time to look at that objectively. Good start. You have taken the first Step into the understanding that you are being lied to on a regular basis by the media and government. There is A LOT MORE to the story.
I am the first to agree both parties are to blame. Thing is it is all a stage show to distract the masses from realizing that our 2 party Duopoly is all a scam because our politicians are corrupt in both parties and answering to the Deep State through bribery & blackmail. This shadow government is run by the Rothchild Banking Empire using the Intelligence communities of Isreal, England, Germany, Saudi Araba, and the US.
If you honestly want to end foreign influence over our elections, you need to realize that the DNC, Hillary, & the Deep State actually fixed the election so Hillary would win. The program they used tainted the results from 5 states electronic Voting machines in her favor before true Patriots in our Intelligence Community stopped the program from running. Trump might have lost if he wasn't actually 20% ahead in the real polls. Tough to hear but true.
Trump was the candidate approached by the true patriots in the Intelligence Community to champion the cause to oppose and fight the treasonous GLOBALIST DEEP STATE PLAN to establish a fascist WORLD GOVERNMENT from the United Nations and institute AGENDA 21, AGENDA 30, and OUTLOOK 2050 after they started WW3 with Russia to break the assault on the Petro Dollar & depopulate. Trump is opposed by most everyone in government, Dems & Repubs alike.
- Syria is about:
- Installing a Central Bank run by Rothchilds. (& exploitation of resources as was Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, (Iran, & North Korea)
- Building a NG pipeline from Saudi Arabia to the EU.
- Partitioning country so Isreal can annex expliot a huge oil field they found in West Bank/Syria. Genie Oil (Rothchilds, Dick Cheney, & others) out of NJ is set to develop.
- North Korea is about
- Installing a Central Bank run by Rothchilds.
- Kim has expanded ****** Trade to 10% of world production & Deep State, pappa Bush, HRC, DC, Rothchilds want to add that to their haul from Afghanistan.
Do some research & you will be appalled. It is all published on UN Websites & NASA Website (for their involvement). The more you learn, the more you will realize these are not conspiracy theories.
- NAFTA, TPP, & the EU one actually suborned individual countries sovereignty to International Corporations & Banks & sap wealth from USA.
- The Paris Climate Accord was a global wealth redistribution & equalization effort designed to sap wealth from USA.
- Agenda 21, Agenda 30, Outlook 2050 is plan to depopulate, confiscate wealth, suborn masses & heard remaining into mega cities.
If you are truly a patriot & want to stop foreign influence, get involved in the #Unrig effort & educate your liberal friends in the truth you uncover. Do not believe the Media, not even Fox if you are indeed a republican. The USA has been run by foreign influence since before the Civil War. Wars are population control & strategic to benefit the Globalist banks.
I am glad you think a question on meeting a open star is equivalent to their attempt to get assistance in an election by what they thought was a Russian official or affiliate.So what Einstein? If you thought you were going to meet with a porn star and it turn out to be Chris Hanson, a news reporter, would tell people you met a porn star?
They were asked, months after the meeting, if they had met with any Russian government people. Their answer was no. It was truthful.
Kushner amended his paperwork likely because he knew it was going to come out. Why wasn't it disclosed in the first place? You think you would get away with that?
I am glad you think a question on meeting a open star is equivalent to their attempt to get assistance in an election by what they thought was a Russian official or affiliate.
I suppose you think it would be ok for a man to agree to meet an underage child as long as it wasn't really an underage child?
Dude your revisionist statements are getting more ridiculous. I said they agreed to a meeting with someone they truly believed was tied to the Russian government. Legally it is the intent that matters. And they knew they made this judgement to meet and figured they would get away with not disclosing because they didn't get what they wanted from it and they could use your excuse to get out of it.More excuses for your lies?
You said they met with a person from the Russian government. That's a lie.
You said Kushner did not disclose the meeting. That's a lie.
Keep telling yourself it was just an innocent oversight. How does that koolaid taste anyway?Yes. Having had a clearance, if I had forgotten something and disclosed it later, I would still have had a clearance. Kushner still has his clearance and did so before and after the story became public.
So if your wife went to meet someone for sex and when they met she realized he wasn't who he said he was and didn't have sex, she did nothing wrong? Next you asked her if she met someone for sex and she said no and you believed her. But then you find out months later that she did meet someone for sex. She didn't lie to you?What the fuck are you babbling about?
They never met a russian government person. Period.
It's not a lie to say you never met with a person you never met with.
Don't trust me. Don't Trust Russia. Don't Trust Trump.So, I don't doubt any of that is real. But if you expect me to trust Russia and Trump because they have such good intentions I don't really buy into that. If it takes two evils to keep the others in check, ok.
But it still doesn't make me like or trust Trump. I just don't see him for anything more than an opportunist. Just look at all of his appointees. I just can't reconcile so many choice with anything other than their money and lust for power.
So, if his election averted WW3 then great. But we will still never truly know what is really going on.
Dude your revisionist statements are getting more ridiculous. I said they agreed to a meeting with someone they truly believed was tied to the Russian government. Legally it is the intent that matters. And they knew they made this judgement to meet and figured they would get away with not disclosing because they didn't get what they wanted from it and they could use your excuse to get out of it.
This deflects from the real issue that regardless of any interpretation of the law that he lied repeatedly about having knowingly met with anyone that had involvement with the Russian government. These emails absolutely show that those statements were untrue.
Not only that, this meeting was not disclosed by Kushner in his application for security clearance.
So if your wife went to meet someone for sex and when they met she realized he wasn't who he said he was and didn't have sex, she did nothing wrong? Next you asked her if she met someone for sex and she said no and you believed her. But then you find out months later that she did meet someone for sex. She didn't lie to you?
Keep telling yourself it was just an innocent oversight. How does that koolaid taste anyway?
Here is a screenshot. Apparently the quote is listed twice in the article
Almost forgot to mention:So, I don't doubt any of that is real. But if you expect me to trust Russia and Trump because they have such good intentions I don't really buy into that. If it takes two evils to keep the others in check, ok.
But it still doesn't make me like or trust Trump. I just don't see him for anything more than an opportunist. Just look at all of his appointees. I just can't reconcile so many choice with anything other than their money and lust for power.
So, if his election averted WW3 then great. But we will still never truly know what is really going on.
Of course you won't answer the question because it would force you to realize covering up the truth is lieing. As a matter of fact I don't even know that they knew she wasn't truly affiliated with the government until she interviewed on TV the other day. She may also be lieing about her true relationship with the government.What the fuck are you babbling about now?
Here is a simple yes or no question. Did Jr meet with a person that had involvement with the Russian government?
No beating around the bush, just answer the fucking question.
Such a mature response. Ignorance is bliss. And it wasn't just some meeting. But go ahead and keep pretending. None of this has anything to do with being liberal but keep hiding behind labels. It makes it easier to ignore reality.The koolaid tastes better than that liberal cock you're working on.
Having filled out some paperwork in my life, I don't pretend that I remember every fucking meeting I've ever had.
It's fairly common, even for job applications, credit apps and yep, government clearance forms, to add stuff later. It's just a fact.
It's not fake news if there is truth to it. So if you don't believe it that is fine, but it's not a statement of fiction. Just how accurate it is will be discovered soon enough.So it was fake news you were quoting.
Because as we see now, that last part was added... and is utter bullshit.
The law says no such thing.
Turns out ya can't believe every meme on the internet... Who knew?
Such a mature response. Ignorance is bliss. And it wasn't just some meeting. But go ahead and keep pretending. None of this has anything to do with being liberal but keep hiding behind labels. It makes it easier to ignore reality.
Hey guys good news! They will begin construction on the wall soon!
The koolaid tastes better than that liberal cock you're working on.
Having filled out some paperwork in my life, I don't pretend that I remember every fucking meeting I've ever had.
It's fairly common, even for job applications, credit apps and yep, government clearance forms, to add stuff later. It's just a fact.
Why? Because they want to benefit themselves from this presidency.AGAIN
WHY THE FUCK ARE TRUMP PEOPLE MEETING WITH RUSSIANS? that's the only question I have. It seems like everybody in that camp has special interest... WHY
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SHHH You want to be labelled anti-semetic?Everyone railing against Russia collusion and interference... ever heard of the Israeli lobby?
But he is sooo pro vaping?If mike pence takes over the presidency
You all go start repenting your sins! We all gonna die sooner than you all think!
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Why? Because they want to benefit themselves from this presidency.
They have ZERO interest in benefiting the American People.
But he is sooo pro vaping?