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Infinite1

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I got some new glass for my Supreme a couple of days ago:bliss:. Not the best picture, but I just finished rebuilding and putting it on the Supreme. Not quite matchy, matchy, but I like it - looks good with the Black cover too :D

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Love the red Steve. Is your cover actually red, or is it orange like mine?
 

Wingsfan0310

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Looking good!

What tank is that?
That's a UD Bellus. I have two of them (SS and Black). It's a 22mm tank with direct airflow like the Supreme. The only issue I have with mine is it's a top fill tank with no JFC. Mine tends to leak a bit after filling, nothing terrible but it can happen. I like mine, probably the best flavor I get from my last gen 22mm tanks.

It's on the Black Lavabox in this picture (Far Left)
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Aha the Bellus. Thanks for the quick run down. I'm partial to velocity style decks these days, would have picked one up today otherwise....my CC is thanking me...but it has no idea that the job is not done yet :)

Happy 4th of July everyone!

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Infinite1

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It depends on the light. The cover looks Red sometimes and at other times Reddish Orange (I wish it was Redder). The tank overhangs my Blood Red Lavabox a touch but I think it would look better on it.

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Steve
Same here . I just snagged this pic with the TFV8 and without question this tank has orange o-rings in all light, but funny...the cover looks more red today! It's a color shiftter :)

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follow link if all else fails for a GOON and use coupon code ( 4THOFJULYSALE ) its only good on the 4th and is just a few bucks more then .Vaping Veterens,They look to have them all in stock but they may go quick
Sure you have heard this site before ..I've never ordered but know a lot guys who have .
http://www.kidneypuncher.com/the-goon-atty-by-528-custom-vape/

Damn, And by damn I mean thanks.
I ordered last night from Vape Veterens the SS. But wanted the Black. I am going to see about canceling and get that black.
So many sales I have been eagle eyeing them but easy to miss some of them.
 

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I gave in on Friday and purchased my last (#5) VT133 in Black & Yellow:crazy: I also gave in and purchased 2 Black Aromamizer Supremes to go along with my 2 SS Aromamizer Supremes and the colored glass to make them look Purdy:giggle:
 

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It looks like my 4th shopping is done. I checked out Ecig and they already sold out of the Black on Black VT133. I had a very nice one time use coupon (I've been saving fpr a rainy day :D) and some store credit so I bought a Black/Yellow and Black/Blue VT133. I just couldn't pass up the deal. I like a lot of mods but everyone has something about it that falls into the "but if it just had this or that, I'd be on it" category.

More specifically I'm talking about the Lost Vape Mods. (This is just my personal preference, not in anyway saying they are bad mods, I actually like their looks and build quality). I was thinking of the Duo but I don't like the boxy shape and the fact you can't easily change the panels along with no reverse battery protection for 18650"s. I then was thinking about the Triade but I'm just really not a fan of triple 18650 mods. Finally the Therion (sp), If it just had a DNA200 board. You see what I mean, they are all really nice mods that I seriously considered but for me there was always something that stopped me (personal preferences only).

The VT133 really doesn't have any of that for me so I bought two more (I'm sure for a lot of people the VT133 has things they wish were different). I just don't find anything to complain about when it comes to the VT133. I think it's the best bang for the buck I've ever had when it comes to a mod. I figured before the Yellow and Blue were also gone I'd jump on them. I think I'm done with mods for my stash unless I trade or sell something.

In closing, I'm really not saying anything is wrong with the other mods I mentioned or that other people shouldn't like/buy them. I was just trying to explain why I bought 2 more VT133's.

Cheers,
Steve
Well that was wishful thinking. I bought another roll of SS430 because a friend clued me in to free shipping for the holiday weekend. Here's the code in case anyone is on the fence.
http://www.unkamensupplies.com/prod...e-nickel-free-introductory-sale-100-guarantee
Coupon code for this weekend: FreeShippingHoliday

That's not the worst part. I just placed an order at Ecigexpress for some flavorings I needed/wanted while the code was still good. Even with discount and points it was sill a hair over $60.
Discount Code: INDEPENDENCEDAY

Now if that's not bad enough I have a cart full of stuff at FastTech that I'm mulling over because their sale ends at midnight Central Time (it's nothing major but still $40+). I'm still thinking about it, hopefully I have the willpower to resist. I need a beer or 10 :D :cheers:

Have a great 4th

Cheers,
Steve
 
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Steve, I just ordered 2 roles for myself and referred you in the "shipping notes". Not sure it was the right way and didn't know how else to do it. Hope it works and thanks for the free shipping coupon.
 

Wingsfan0310

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Steve, I just ordered 2 roles for myself and referred you in the "shipping notes". Not sure it was the right way and didn't know how else to do it. Hope it works and thanks for the free shipping coupon.
I hope you like it as much as I do (I think you will). I only mentioned the other thing because another buddy of mine ordered some and said he signed up and after the fact wished he would have put me down as referring him. Until then I never even knew you could do that. It's really no matter, the only reason I talk about the wire is because I like it and get great results using on my DNA200's. I just want to see people enjoy their mods as much as I do. Happy 4th my friend!

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Heartlandvapes has their Nic on sale for 35.00 for a liter of 100mg. Discount code is Happy4th . Very good Nic for the price, free shipping over 75.00. Cheapest i have seen this weekend:D

http://wholesale.heartlandvapes.com/nicotine-100mg-liter.html
WOW that's pretty cheap. I paid $105 shipped for a liter of NN a month or 2 back. I've never tried Heartland Nic before so I wonder how it compares. I will say the NN is very clean with little to no taste. If you are mixing bakery/desert flavors that really is a plus. I'm not disappointed in the purchase at all but wouldn't mind being able to stock up on some more for a reasonable price like that.

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Steve
 

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It's great Nic and have used it many times before. I have a empty liter setting on my desk now. I just purchased 2 liters and some flavors for 87.00 and free shipping. Great deal imho!
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Item Sku Qty Subtotal
Nicotine Solution - 100mg Liter
Base Liquid

2 x 100% Propylene Glycol USP Kosher
NIC-100L-100pg 2 $89.98
Sweet Strawberry (CAP)
Size

4oz
FL-CAP-sweet-strawberry-4oz 1 $12.49
Banana Cream (TFA)
Size

4oz
FL-TFA-banana-cream-4oz 1 $6.50
Subtotal $108.97
Shipping & Handling $0.00
Discount (Happy4th) -$21.79
Grand Total $87.18
 

Wingsfan0310

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It's great Nic and have used it many times before. I have a empty liter setting on my desk now. I just purchased 2 liters and some flavors for 87.00 and free shipping. Great deal imho!
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Item Sku Qty Subtotal
Nicotine Solution - 100mg Liter
Base Liquid

2 x 100% Propylene Glycol USP Kosher
NIC-100L-100pg 2 $89.98
Sweet Strawberry (CAP)
Size

4oz
FL-CAP-sweet-strawberry-4oz 1 $12.49
Banana Cream (TFA)
Size

4oz
FL-TFA-banana-cream-4oz 1 $6.50
Subtotal $108.97
Shipping & Handling $0.00
Discount (Happy4th) -$21.79
Grand Total $87.18
Thanks, now I'm thinking about it. Is it relatively clear without a fishy odor or peppery taste? My last Nic had a little of both. Here's my DIY order from earlier today:


Item
Sku Qty Subtotal
Lemon Sicily by FlavourArt
Size

120ml
7-12-0289-00-17-99 1 $14.56

(Golden) Butter by Capella Flavor Drops 13ml 7-05-0074-00-31-99 1 $2.50

Butter Cream by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0075-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Sweet Tangerine by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0459-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Vanilla Custard by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0490-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Vanilla Whipped Cream by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0504-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Subtotal $66.82
Express Loyalty Rewards -$1.71
Spent 57 Points
Earned 61 Points
Shipping & Handling $0.00
Discount (15% INDEPENDENCE DAY DISCOUNT) -$4.05
Grand Total $61.06

Happy 4th buddy!

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Cheers,
Steve
 

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Thanks, now I'm thinking about it. Is it relatively clear without a fishy odor or peppery taste? My last Nic had a little of both. Here's my DIY order from earlier today:


Item
Sku Qty Subtotal
Lemon Sicily by FlavourArt
Size

120ml
7-12-0289-00-17-99 1 $14.56

(Golden) Butter by Capella Flavor Drops 13ml 7-05-0074-00-31-99 1 $2.50

Butter Cream by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0075-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Sweet Tangerine by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0459-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Vanilla Custard by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0490-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Vanilla Whipped Cream by Capella Flavor Drops
Size

4oz
7-05-0504-00-17-99 1 $12.44

Subtotal $66.82
Express Loyalty Rewards -$1.71
Spent 57 Points
Earned 61 Points
Shipping & Handling $0.00
Discount (15% INDEPENDENCE DAY DISCOUNT) -$4.05
Grand Total $61.06

Happy 4th buddy!

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Cheers,
Steve

Steve...It's not fishy or peppery. I seem to vape the same flavors as you do and i have never been disappointed in their Nic. It's cheap enough to give it a try! I usually mix my own Nic as you already know, but this is ready to mix without opening my freezer stash. I am going to be rich if Nic goes on the blackmarket :)
 

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Nicotine River has their FDA letter on the website.

https://www.nicotineriver.com/pages/fda-approval-letter
It was my "limited" understanding that the new laws don't pertain to the "raw" ingredients. Liquid nic has been approved long ago for other purposes. Happy to see that where I get my nic already has their approval and posted! We will see. There are 2 different directions the market can go post ruling...prices for raw ingredients stay the same/drop or they go up! I can rationalize either, really. Hopefully they go down as a result... is what I'm hoping. The same way mods dropped in price as more vapors started and drove competition. This all uneducated speculation as I have no idea how this will hurt or help raw suppliers.

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Wingsfan0310

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See I'm not sure about it either. The way the regs are written, attys, mods, programs for mods all seem to be considered tobacco products :headbang:. I'm wondering if Batteries, Flavors, Nic, PG, and VG sold at a Vaping shop will also be considered Tobacco product? What I'm saying if they are sold with the intent to vape does that make it a Tobacco Product?

One other thing about having a FDA letter or whatever. The PMTA (Premarket Tobacco Application) can't even be filed yet. It's really just a big mess. :sad:

Here's a link to the Deeming Regulation Compliance Calender if anyone is interested in checking it out (It starts on 8-8-16 and goes through 8-8-19):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/85k3f5tqmnmx71x/VTA Guidance - Deeming Compliance Calendar - FINAL.pdf?dl=0

Cheers,
Steve
 

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It was my "limited" understanding that the new laws don't pertain to the "raw" ingredients. Liquid nic has been approved long ago for other purposes. Happy to see that where I get my nic already has their approval and posted! We will see. There are 2 different directions the market can go post ruling...prices for raw ingredients stay the same/drop or they go up! I can rationalize either, really. Hopefully they go down as a result... is what I'm hoping. The same way mods dropped in price as more vapors started and drove competition. This all uneducated speculation as I have no idea how this will hurt or help raw suppliers.

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What about states like Utah ? and HB415 and you know once one states passes laws like these many will follow

http://utsmokefree.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Utah-R384-415-Regulations-2015.pdf

I received this message the other day
Dear Vaperz Cloud Family,

Unfortunately, with the passing of HB415 in the State of Utah, we will no longer be able to ship our products or the ones we distribute to our retail customers starting today, July 1st. We will continue to participate in advocacy for our right to vape and hope that these regulations in Utah get overturned as soon as possible. Also, with the passing of HB1432 in the State of Indiana, we will no longer be able to ship E-liquid to it's residents. If you purchase E-Liquid and have it shipped to the State of Indiana, the E-liquid portion of your order will be cancelled and refunded. Finally, to our Canadian customers, we recommend the choice of FedEx or UPS for shipping with the possibility of a Canada Post Strike in the coming days. We want to ensure our Canadian customers can receive their orders in a timely manner during the potential strike and strongly advise not choosing USPS.

Sincerely,

Anthony Tran
 

Infinite1

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What about states like Utah ? and HB415 and you know once one states passes laws like these many will follow

http://utsmokefree.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Utah-R384-415-Regulations-2015.pdf

I received this message the other day
Dear Vaperz Cloud Family,

Unfortunately, with the passing of HB415 in the State of Utah, we will no longer be able to ship our products or the ones we distribute to our retail customers starting today, July 1st. We will continue to participate in advocacy for our right to vape and hope that these regulations in Utah get overturned as soon as possible. Also, with the passing of HB1432 in the State of Indiana, we will no longer be able to ship E-liquid to it's residents. If you purchase E-Liquid and have it shipped to the State of Indiana, the E-liquid portion of your order will be cancelled and refunded. Finally, to our Canadian customers, we recommend the choice of FedEx or UPS for shipping with the possibility of a Canada Post Strike in the coming days. We want to ensure our Canadian customers can receive their orders in a timely manner during the potential strike and strongly advise not choosing USPS.

Sincerely,

Anthony Tran
Yes yes indeed, this is what's so tough about this. States have their independent laws that intersect with it all. For instance here in Cali, SB 1400 was rejected. A small "win" or stop gap

http://vaping360.com/california-assembly-committee-kills-bill-restrict-tobacco-sales/

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Wingsfan0310

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Real quick the way I understand these regs is like this. After 8-8-16 no new products can come out without first getting a PMTA (which is said to cost ~ 1 million per application per product with no guarantee it will get one). There is a 2 year window until 8-8-18 that products already out before 8-8-16 can still be sold. After that you will need a PMTA to be able to sell your ENDS (I hate that fricking term). There is a grandfather date but iirc it's in 2007 (WTF, nothing out then is being sold now). It's not a pretty picture and changes can happen (lets hope for the better and not worse). This is just Federal, of course States can pile on what they want. :mad::(:headbang:

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Steve
 

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What about states like Utah ? and HB415 and you know once one states passes laws like these many will follow

http://utsmokefree.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Utah-R384-415-Regulations-2015.pdf

I received this message the other day
Dear Vaperz Cloud Family,

Unfortunately, with the passing of HB415 in the State of Utah, we will no longer be able to ship our products or the ones we distribute to our retail customers starting today, July 1st. We will continue to participate in advocacy for our right to vape and hope that these regulations in Utah get overturned as soon as possible. Also, with the passing of HB1432 in the State of Indiana, we will no longer be able to ship E-liquid to it's residents. If you purchase E-Liquid and have it shipped to the State of Indiana, the E-liquid portion of your order will be cancelled and refunded. Finally, to our Canadian customers, we recommend the choice of FedEx or UPS for shipping with the possibility of a Canada Post Strike in the coming days. We want to ensure our Canadian customers can receive their orders in a timely manner during the potential strike and strongly advise not choosing USPS.

Sincerely,

Anthony Tran

I think Utah still has Vape stores, you just can't import juice(they want their tax money).
 

Jim_MDP

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I think Utah still has Vape stores, you just can't import juice(they want their tax money).

That's not my understanding of what happened.

It was an unannounced and unnoticed addendum just prior to voting that would ostensibly limit access and use to Under-18s. Sneaky as fuck... and effective.

Unfortunately... th geography, population distribution and few shops leaves thousands of Utah vapers utterly hosed. :(

You can thank State Representative Paul "Think of the children" Ray. :mad:

As so many here are fond of saying... "Fuckin' Democrats".

Oh wait... he's not. :rolleyes:
 
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also did you read some those regulations on e-juice that was on the link I posted (LINK IN RED) .Not many e-juice makers may want to go to all the trouble to send juice to Utah http://vaping360.com/california-assembly-committee-kills-bill-restrict-tobacco-sales/

I haven't read the provisions of the Utah bill, but... NO domestic online vendor is going to break the quarantine. It's not worth your business license. :(

They may end up doing what we did (still do?) to get our hecho a mano sticks from a certain island nation*... Euro vendors with knowingly discreet packaging.

Customs snagged a consistant ~50%. :p


* - It just hit me... that may end soon, and I don't smoke anymore. :rolleyes:
 

Wingsfan0310

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Well since we pretty much talk about everything in this thread (I think it's a good thing) here's a tidbit. It's been so dry here in SE Michigan, most of us are under a no Fireworks/open fires ban. Since my Collie goes apeshit when the neighbors are blowing them off I'm not complaining.

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I haven't read the provisions of the Utah bill, but... NO domestic online vendor is going to break the quarantine. It's not worth your business license. :(

They may end up doing what we did (still do?) to get our hecho a mano sticks from a certain island nation*... Euro vendors with knowingly discreet packaging.

Customs snagged a consistant ~50%. :p


* - It just hit me... that may end soon, and I don't smoke anymore. :rolleyes:
I hear you ..
 

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Well since we pretty much talk about everything in this thread (I think it's a good thing) here's a tidbit. It's been so dry here in SE Michigan, most of us are under a no Fireworks/open fires ban. Since my Collie goes apeshit when the neighbors are blowing them off I'm not complaining.

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My Yellow Lab is in the bathtub right now, scared to death. Damn neighbors...Maybe i will send my German Shepard out and end the party :)
 

BillW50

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(better ask this on both forums)

WHO HAD THE INSTANT 60% TO 30% BATTERY DROP?

I think I've got it too. :(
The battery bar gets its information from the watt hour value that you can change in EScribe (Mod tab). If you use a value too far from actual, the battery bar will behave poorly. It doesn't hurt anything if it is and it doesn't mean something is wrong with your DNA.
 

Jim_MDP

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The battery bar gets its information from the watt hour value that you can change in EScribe (Mod tab). If you use a value too far from actual, the battery bar will behave poorly. It doesn't hurt anything if it is and it doesn't mean something is wrong with your DNA.

So others can see, this is what I replied to Bill over on ECF...
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I don't think that's the problem (though I did recently up mine from 18.5 to 19.5 because the bar ran out before my Sammies did) but if that's how the DNA "resolves" it's sense of the charge mid-way through... I don't like it.

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BIll... stop stalking me. :eek:

j/k... :p


Thanks Steve... hope Nev pops in and we can compare notes (if that's the who).
 

Wingsfan0310

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The battery bar gets its information from the watt hour value that you can change in EScribe (Mod tab). If you use a value too far from actual, the battery bar will behave poorly. It doesn't hurt anything if it is and it doesn't mean something is wrong with your DNA.
Could be from the wrong watt hours combined with the wrong discharge CSV. I think 18.5WH is pushing it for 25R's since the manufactures discharge down to 2.5v. The DNA has a hard cutoff at 2.8v I believe. That doesn't even take into account what you have your soft cutoff set to.

Cheers,
Steve
 

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So others can see, this is what I replied to Bill over on ECF...
Which is the same as I posted here. :wave:

The DNA works with the real watt hours, not what is printed on the batteries. I don't like watt hours for the battery bar either. As I am far more comfortable using battery voltage as a battery gauge. But Evolv's is far more accurate if you use the true watt hours. If your battery charger doesn't have a mah gauge, you can write down what the DNA says for watt hours (from the Device Monitor) and use it until the batteries quit. Then subtract this watt hours from the other one and that is your true watt hours.
 

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Which is the same as I posted here. :wave:

The DNA works with the real watt hours, not what is printed on the batteries. I don't like watt hours for the battery bar either. As I am far more comfortable using battery voltage as a battery gauge. But Evolv's is far more accurate if you use the true watt hours. If your battery charger doesn't have a mah gauge, you can write down what the DNA says for watt hours (from the Device Monitor) and use it until the batteries quit. Then subtract this watt hours from the other one and that is your true watt hours.
First off if you really want it to be dead nuts accurate you need to run the battery analyzer. Batteries lose capacity as they age and also depending on the load they are under. Bigger load, less capacity.

Secondly while the DNA200 does mainly use the watt hours for the battery bar/meter. It uses that in conjunction with the discharge graph. It would have to because someone could put batteries in that were only charged to 4.0v. If it didn't also use the graph it would be off. What I believe happens is when its been at rest a certain amount of time, the chip compares the voltage of each cell to the graph and adjusts the bar if its off.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit If you made changes to the WH during this run having the bar jump wouldn't be out of the ordinary when the chip catches up imo
 
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