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I have bought from VT and I got both rebottled and original factory bottles. All of my bottles from Poland were also original.

Thanks!
That seems strange they would have both.
Don't have Royal...I'd be interested in your review of Shade before I buy it. I'm making in INW purchase this weekend. Have you tried the Ry4 yet?

I have Inawera RY4. This one really surprised me. I guess I am picky but have only found a few RY4's I like.

This one needs a very long steep (for me) but is so worth it. I tried it a few times up to a month steep and I didn't like it. It got pushed to the side again and at 2 months when I was weeding out the mixes I didn't like I tried it one last time. Oh wow, what a difference! I really like this one and I am not sure exactly when it turned good but somewhere in between one month and two. I have a larger bottle steeping now that has been sitting a month.

Others have liked it much sooner but this was my experience with it.
 

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That seems strange they would have both.

Yeah, I thought so too at the time. But, I am pretty sure that's correct.


I have Inawera RY4. This one really surprised me. I guess I am picky but have only found a few RY4's I like.

This one needs a very long steep (for me) but is so worth it. I tried it a few times up to a month steep and I didn't like it. It got pushed to the side again and at 2 months when I was weeding out the mixes I didn't like I tried it one last time. Oh wow, what a difference! I really like this one and I am not sure exactly when it turned good but somewhere in between one month and two. I have a larger bottle steeping now that has been sitting a month.

Others have liked it much sooner but this was my experience with it.

Okay, thanks for that review. I'll keep this in mind. I'm ordering tomorrow. What % did you use?

What other RY4's do you give the thumbs up to?
 

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I used 2 drops per 5ml out of their original bottles. (60 drops per ml)
 

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i believe it is the e aromat because it looks different in the bottle when mixed and it needs lots of shaky shaky to get it mixed. It kind of looks oily when you mix it in the bottle the way it flows and sticks to the sides.
The Wera Garden Orange contains the citrus oil bro. The Inawera Orange mixed well for me.
 

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after 1 month with the nutty princess @3%.. think I could have gone up to 6%
Water test smoky, water test;)


I know I mentioned that somewhere.. here there, or...

but when in doubt.. drop a few drops into water ^^^^ and mix.. if it blends.. it's not oil :D:p
 

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For tobacco I really like S'Camel...didn't like the RY4 at all, I'd rather make my own RY...have Dark Fire, never tried it, if it taste like it smells (flower bouquet) I don't want to try it. Didn't like the TAV, may have mixed it too strong. Tobacco Symphony meh....if it has a twang, it ain't my thang. I do use DNB & LSD in most all my tobacco mixes.
 

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Dark Fire is absolutely delicious (to me). I'm testing with it now. But, I have let it steep for a few months before testing with different flavors, so that may be why I don't get a flower bouquet scent.

I just ordered the RY4 and can't wait to work with that one.
 

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I like Dark Fire too. Mixed with Virginia TA it's a nice fresh tobacco smell taste. Like the smell of opening a fresh pack of (non-menthol) smokes and taking a big whiff.
I have the RY4 but didn't try it yet. I did smell the bottle and it's nice. I think I'll like it.
 

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I like Dark Fire too. Mixed with Virginia TA it's a nice fresh tobacco smell taste. Like the smell of opening a fresh pack of (non-menthol) smokes and taking a big whiff.
I have the RY4 but didn't try it yet. I did smell the bottle and it's nice. I think I'll like it.

I haven't tried the DF with Virginia or any other tobacco, just with fruits so far. I'll try that and see how it turns out.

Someone said the RY4 needs between 1-2 months to steep. So, I'll start as soon as it gets here.
 

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Thats what I like about S'Camel W/DNB...zero, nada, zilch steep time. I'm an impatient cuss...
 

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Any of you know where I can get the inw menthol? I have a request for it.
 

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Check Vaperstek, Bull City Vapors, ecigexpress, or the INW shop in Poland
 

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I haven't tried the DF with Virginia or any other tobacco, just with fruits so far. I'll try that and see how it turns out.

Someone said the RY4 needs between 1-2 months to steep. So, I'll start as soon as it gets here.


I said it :D

Thats what I like about S'Camel W/DNB...zero, nada, zilch steep time. I'm an impatient cuss...


Try it.. :p

Any of you know where I can get the inw menthol? I have a request for it.


Direct from INA.. think link is at beginning of the thread or close to it.. take advantage of the 15% off coupon.. might as well.. :D
 

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Thanks much!!! Checked vaperstek and the Poland shop. Vaperstek didn't have it and I didn't want to order from Poland if I didn't have to. So I'll check bull city.
 

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Awe. Just saw smokies reply. Coupons!!!! Damn now I'm torn. I'll check at home. Hate phone surfing. Lol
 

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Shisha Mai Tai's next week!
I broke down and bought the Shisha tobacco drops against by better judgement. The description sounds strange on that one.

This one will take a little longer to steep. One of the few TD's I have not tried yet.
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Thats what I like about S'Camel W/DNB...zero, nada, zilch steep time. I'm an impatient cuss...

Just so there is no confusion; There is nothing special about s'camel that doesn't change it from any other tobacco in the TD line.
It does require a steep;
However your preference with the DNB is satisfactory for "your" taste without steep. i don't know how big of a bottle you mix at a time but if you ever make it a few weeks before finishing it you will see you have a totally different flavor.
Try mixing a seperate batch next time without the DNB and put one away and forget about it for a while. It does have a bit of an ashy taste anyway. You may even be able to back off on the DNB somewhat?
 

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Shisha Mai Tai's next week!
I broke down and bought the Shisha tobacco drops against by better judgement. The description sounds strange on that one.

This one will take a little longer to steep. One of the few TD's I have not tried yet.
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uhhh.. I have the tobacco drops and not sure what I think on it..
made it, tried it.. (3% like all my other tobbys from them)
it's sitting in the box atm.. :oops:
 

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Hey I looked back to see that on your 1st review of these flavors you tried the Gold&Silver. Have you tried it again since?

No, I haven't. I did see it in my steeping box the other day along with some I've been meaning to get back to. I should get on the reviews again.
 

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Ive used the S'Camel in all kind of ways...W/WO dnb, azure ta, standalone, mixed with various other tobaccos and whatnots, green, aged from several weeks-months....just saying its ah plenty fine green off a mix for my taste...
 

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@HowlinWolf - yes sir I uderstand that. Taste is very very subjective.

My intent was to make sure someone new with these flavors didn't come along and say "hey that doesn't need steeping i'll buy that one".
Thats all;)
 

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@HowlinWolf - yes sir I uderstand that. Taste is very very subjective.

My intent was to make sure someone new with these flavors didn't come along and say "hey that doesn't need steeping i'll buy that one".
Thats all;)

that is the one thing.. even tho you might vape things fresh.. always know what your juices taste like with a little time..
in case you give some away and someone else is wondering.. ina always changes when it steeps.
 

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Should I order from Inawera shop or inawera flavors dot com??

Seems that inawera flavors has better prices.. But will I get my package?
 

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Should I order from Inawera shop or inawera flavors dot com??

Seems that inawera flavors has better prices.. But will I get my package?

https://inawerashop.com/

this is the one with the 15% off coupon for 1st time-ers.. they always have some kind of deal going on..
there is zero tracking, but.. for me to get mine on the east coast is under 7 days..
 

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DAMNIT!!!!

Ordered from inaweraflavors.com DOH!!!!
 

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@HowlinWolf - yes sir I uderstand that. Taste is very very subjective.

My intent was to make sure someone new with these flavors didn't come along and say "hey that doesn't need steeping i'll buy that one".
Thats all;)

Hmmm and the harm in that would be? I've been mixing for around four years and only have a few mixes that benefit substantially from ageing. I figure its just juice, if its good off a fresh mix that'll work. If it gets a little better with age thats fine to...i just dont get too ocd over steeping ;)
 

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Hmmm and the harm in that would be? I've been mixing for around four years and only have a few mixes that benefit substantially from ageing. I figure its just juice, if its good off a fresh mix that'll work. If it gets a little better with age thats fine to...i just dont get too ocd over steeping ;)


Some do, and some don't.. depends on who you ask too :D
 

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DAMNIT!!!!

Ordered from inaweraflavors.com DOH!!!!

It's OK, they ship fast too, and if I remember correctly, you'll get a tracking number without having to beg for one. I don't order from them anymore because 1) no coupon codes and b) they don't answer emails. F that.
 

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It's OK, they ship fast too, and if I remember correctly, you'll get a tracking number without having to beg for one. I don't order from them anymore because 1) no coupon codes and b) they don't answer emails. F that.
Honestly this is probably a one time deal…

If the menthol works out well I will just request vaperstek to carry it. Hopefully he will then I'll just get it from him in the future.. :)

My plan sounds nice doesn't it?? LOL!!! Reality… well… ya know...
 

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I see this argument over and over again, on this forum, on other forums, and really, it just comes down to preference and whatever works for you personally. I'm in the steep everything camp. I haven't vaped anything that didn't taste better with days to weeks to months of steeping. My palate can detect changes, sometimes subtle, but definitely there. As a newbie, I read thread after thread on this subject and decided I didn't want to steep because 1) I was just too impatient 2) it just seemed pointless. And, as a newbie, it's confusing when you read threads and there's conflicting information all over the place - you don't know what to trust or how to determine who's right. So, I basically just did my own thing, using certain threads as a guideline. I know many others did this as well. I think it's important to keep in mind that newbies will be reading and looking for answers and need to understand the foundation of the answers, the science behind them, and the validity behind a given topic. This topic is subjective because taste is subjective. So, it's difficult to find a science to base my answer on, or for the shake and vape camp to base their answer on. I equate steeping to cooking, or marinating, or even the process of infusing herbs/roots into a tincture. None of these processes happen immediately. They take time. This is the logic I base my opinion on, as well as the experience I've had with shaking and vaping compared to steeping. But, I think what @Cessnapix is saying is there are people new to vaping every day who are looking for answers to these questions. It's important to keep in mind that newbies do look to these posts for guidance. That's not to say anyone's answer on this subject is absolutely wrong or right, but rather keep in mind people are making decisions based on these posts, and for someone new to vaping, they want and need to know which flavors are vapeable right away because most don't have an arsenal of juices yet. I support my opinion, obviously, but also have tried to look at this topic objectively. I've paid attention to the general consensus both to understand the validity of my own view, and to know what information to pass on to others. Most people agree that tobaccos especially benefit from steeping. How long of a steep does seem to vary from person to person. Some fruits seem to be okay right away, while some do benefit from steeping as well. It's also generally accepted that custards, some desserts, and more complex mixes also benefit from steeping. Does that mean you can't shake and vape? No. You can vape a mix anytime you want to. But, these do get better with time. This is what most vapers say. I think that's an important point to make.

People have put a lot of effort into testing the whole steeping process. From UC to SC to various other methods I've read about like rice socks and just using hot water boiled in a pot. People want to know the science behind it. What is truly necessary and valid. I personally question whether heat is an accelerator, but I can't argue with what people have discovered in the testing process. People haven't tested this and found there to be benefits because it's wrong or because there's no validity to it - I have to keep this in mind. If I have doubts, then I test myself. But, I don't think people who made these efforts are OCD or obsessed, other than wanting to seek the truth. They have provided a foundation, a basis for the process of speed steeping. That's what scientists do. They hypothesize, they test a hypothesis under controlled and unbiased environments to seek the truth. People who steep aren't OCD about it - they just want to enjoy a good vape. That's what we are all here for ultimately.

If shake and vape works for you, then that's what you do. If speed steeping works for you, then that's fine, and that's what you do. If only using time alone to steep works for you, then that's what you do. I don't think anyone can say what you do is wrong for you. I just try to keep in mind that newbies will be reading, need advice, and need and want to understand the reason behind a given answer. So, this very long-winded post was just to say that in the end, you do what works for you, but you can also look to what others have done already to find those answers we all seek, at least in vaping.

P.S. Sorry for the War and Peace version lol
 

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Thats all right I have had worse things happen to me on this forum this week than be called mental!:p
 

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Thats all right I have had worse things happen to me on this forum this week than be called mental!:p

eh.. @flowerpots beautifully written.. ;)

@Cessnapix hey now!!:rolleyes::D << joking!!

some of us don't type as well as others either, due to time or other things going on.. but I have to say this..
we are all different, we perceive things different and thank goodness it is that way.. or I would get so bored real quick! :)
 

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What....? what did I do now.......... Its not releated to this! or words!

Yes it was very well written,,,,,,,,,,,,,, sorry i just got out of the shower and it is very humid...............


The fact is some of us have very sensitive taste. Others cant taste crap. That is a fact of life.

Those of us who steep notice a change in our flavors apparently we think all people can taste these notes but they can't.

Flowerpots put it very well!

@GargoyleK1 it doesnt really matter who you buy them from you will get it. We all have our own preffered site.
 

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Where does inawera.com ship from?
 

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Well said @flowerpots ! Whatever works. I tried the fancy stuff like a UC etc., but I'm too lazy. Time (or sadly sometimes nothing) works for me.
 

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eh.. @flowerpots beautifully written.. ;)

@Cessnapix hey now!!:rolleyes::D << joking!!

some of us don't type as well as others either, due to time or other things going on.. but I have to say this..
we are all different, we perceive things different and thank goodness it is that way.. or I would get so bored real quick! :)


Yes that is very well written! and we are on the same page. I have been mixing for over a year. Seems like longer.......but If I start to use a new brand of flavoring I would like to know all the nuances of that Brand. For instance these, inawera, are way different than hangsen. You can almost shake and vape hangsen with very little steep time. A matter of fact they fade very very fast. Like within a two week period.

Where as inawera is just the opposite, more concentrated and some lines are more complex than others. Which does require time for the flavors to develope. This is not an OCD opinion but my experience.

If you can't tatse the difference in a two to six week steep in some of these flavors then no; it makes no sense for you to steep them. You maybe able to save some money and just vape straight DNB also, I don't know, i dont have your nose and tastebuds.
 

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I noticed that with the Hangsen Plum I got. It's very good, actually the best plum flavor I've tried. But, it did lose it's oomph after a while. So, most HS fruits are like that? Are the HS tobaccos the same way?

Inawera is what got me to really want to DIY. I started with buying TFA flavors because they were cheap and I'm still only testing TFA mostly, but I can't wait to work with the INW flavors. Do you find the house line is the simplest flavors, least complex, and quicker to steep? And the WG the most complex? I think the Tino line is complex too. I really haven't tested them to have a good feel for them yet. But, I've accumulated about 40+ flavors at this point.
 

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Oh, and I meant to say that with your statement about wanting to learn a flavor's nuances, that's why I am testing every flavor at all. I know people have already tested for recommended % ranges. But, I wanted to get to know my flavors well, to learn where the magic spot is, and where it will turn into something unvapeable and where it shines. I did this because I ordered about 125+ or so flavors right away and just sat and stared at them. I really wasn't sure where to start. Then HIC started posting those amazing recipes and I tried those. Then, I just felt inspired and knew if I wanted to really DIY, I needed to get to know my flavors well.
 

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