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I watch Mike Vapes the same way I watch porn; volume on mute and a lot of fast forwarding.
How much can he know about it with 1 hours use or less?
I am so over it. I was excited over a squonk mod that has a chip I already know, and enjoy how its working, still its only amazing in wattage mode and has its tc issues, just like nearly every other mod. I bought the gbox a while back and while people want to workship that device on a daily basis, for me personally its not a great device. I however liked the above 100 watt option, I don't need 200 but whatever fine if its included. That was one thing I did not like that the VV is set at 80 but was more than willing to get it because of the chip.
but after seeing the price and the drama of 30ml bottles being included, then not included, then saying that webpages that were offering these as pre orders are not legit, which is logical since these vendors were advertising it as low as $38 all the way to $55 with the bottles, while the "authorized" vv vendors started right at $65 to even being ridiculous at $85. You can get a pretty decent DNA device at that price, or even a device that is equal or better than the gene chip, without having to pay for extra colors/bottles/battery compartment sleeves/RDA and whatever else.
Right off the bat tho, and I'm not saying x copied y or vice versa, and even giving the man the benefits of doubt and going by his statement of using the same resin manufacturer, excuse me but could have picked other non released resin mixes. Lets say green and pink, black and purple, blue and white or any combination, as well as sticking with the current different available panels from the pulse bf, just modifying it to the new. But no we aimed right at the most popular voopoo drag resins Azure, Rainbow and purple jade, not even bothering to give it a more creative touch or even name.
All this bs is not necessary, could have been professional about it, saying hey guys our collaboration didn't work out the mod will be delayed and then give a professional statement that makes sense, why the chip had been changed. I do have sympathy but at the end of the day, I have sympathy with people that are affected by real life tragic not somebody that has to change a chip during a release of a vape mod. It happens in any business on a daily basis, that adjustments need to be made, not everyone gets a nervous breakdown over it and records a video about it. Sorry but that is/was unprofessional and reflects badly on the company or the "designer"
Than trashing a other company that dares to use their own chip for the upcoming projects, like really? Did voopoo agree of vv buying them out, or did they sign an agreement of outsourcing the chip and not using it anymore after this? it doesn't even matter who's at fault, this whole internet drama including boycott, videos is not professional in any way. Its a problem both companies need to work out and not us, we have nothing to do with it and never will. I'm not going to boycott or harass any side (vv or VP) when buying a mod or Atty I go by what works and gives me the best experience. Will it be voopoo, vandy vape, joyetech, lost vape, wismec, asmodus etc, who knows but that's up to me to decide, not somebody trying to tell me that.
but after seeing the price and the drama of 30ml bottles being included, then not included, then saying that webpages that were offering these as pre orders are not legit, which is logical since these vendors were advertising it as low as $38 all the way to $55 with the bottles, while the "authorized" vv vendors started right at $65 to even being ridiculous at $85. You can get a pretty decent DNA device at that price, or even a device that is equal or better than the gene chip, without having to pay for extra colors/bottles/battery compartment sleeves/RDA and whatever else.
Right off the bat tho, and I'm not saying x copied y or vice versa, and even giving the man the benefits of doubt and going by his statement of using the same resin manufacturer, excuse me but could have picked other non released resin mixes. Lets say green and pink, black and purple, blue and white or any combination, as well as sticking with the current different available panels from the pulse bf, just modifying it to the new. But no we aimed right at the most popular voopoo drag resins Azure, Rainbow and purple jade, not even bothering to give it a more creative touch or even name.
All this bs is not necessary, could have been professional about it, saying hey guys our collaboration didn't work out the mod will be delayed and then give a professional statement that makes sense, why the chip had been changed. I do have sympathy but at the end of the day, I have sympathy with people that are affected by real life tragic not somebody that has to change a chip during a release of a vape mod. It happens in any business on a daily basis, that adjustments need to be made, not everyone gets a nervous breakdown over it and records a video about it. Sorry but that is/was unprofessional and reflects badly on the company or the "designer"
Than trashing a other company that dares to use their own chip for the upcoming projects, like really? Did voopoo agree of vv buying them out, or did they sign an agreement of outsourcing the chip and not using it anymore after this? it doesn't even matter who's at fault, this whole internet drama including boycott, videos is not professional in any way. Its a problem both companies need to work out and not us, we have nothing to do with it and never will. I'm not going to boycott or harass any side (vv or VP) when buying a mod or Atty I go by what works and gives me the best experience. Will it be voopoo, vandy vape, joyetech, lost vape, wismec, asmodus etc, who knows but that's up to me to decide, not somebody trying to tell me that.
It is going to be interesting to see how many Youtube reviewers even touch this story...
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420 did. Mentioned dismay, and denounced VP but didn't say he wouldn't review them.
Vic talked about it.
Grimm just put up a Vlog and did not mention it at all.
Might have been recorded before the drama though.
Might have been recorded before the drama though.
Ohh I knew Vic would talk about it, watched that.
Vic loves to bitch and moan.
why I seldom watch him any more.
Good old drama. Love it. Let's see what VV's chip can do. Maybe it's good. It's certainly cheaper. Everybody wins. (Maybe not Voopoo, but hey, business is tough.)
If Tony's account is correct, Voopoo are arseholes and he and VV have been a little bit naive. But VV have been around a bit, so not very likely, I'd say. You don't hype a product before you can say for certain that you'll be able to deliver. Leaves you exposed. And if you can produce something yourself (new chip in this case), why on earth would you not? My guess is VV have maybe put clauses into whatever agreement they had (or were going to have) with Voopoo, which they knew would prompt Voopoo to raise the price tag? In the end VV got exactly what they wanted to do to begin with. Tony didn't.
My guess is somebody at VV got a good pat on the back for this, because in the process a competitor got a bit of bad press too.
If Tony's account is correct, Voopoo are arseholes and he and VV have been a little bit naive. But VV have been around a bit, so not very likely, I'd say. You don't hype a product before you can say for certain that you'll be able to deliver. Leaves you exposed. And if you can produce something yourself (new chip in this case), why on earth would you not? My guess is VV have maybe put clauses into whatever agreement they had (or were going to have) with Voopoo, which they knew would prompt Voopoo to raise the price tag? In the end VV got exactly what they wanted to do to begin with. Tony didn't.
My guess is somebody at VV got a good pat on the back for this, because in the process a competitor got a bit of bad press too.
This thing has major vapor production I can tell you that! I mean do you see this VAPOR PRODUCTION.
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My as well add me 2 cents and bitch and moan. Oh man no gene chip! Yes i wanted the pulse 80w. For a few reasons. But It's China what do you expect. I personally don't watch any reviewer or care about any of them. I look at what the consumers have to say about a product. I do agree the whole situation shady. It is what it is. I'm sure there will be a ton of squonk mods released this year. But I'm more focused on what's going on here in the USA with vaping period won't matter much if the gov. takes it away none of these reviewer's will matter or be relevant anyway. Wished everyone would take that energy they have and use it for something good like boycotting the fda maybe. Like it's all I see boycott voopoo. I hardly see shit on vape advocacy. I don't know know maybe I'm missing something here. I love my RSQ's Merica baby!!
Sounds like a plan.
How would you go about boycotting the FDA?
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ditto, i will likely be ordering 1 or 2 more this weekend (and a few pulse 22's). The only real negative I have for the RSQ, that the Pulse likely would have done better, would be the overall weight but I can live with a heavier zinc alloy mod if it performs well and the 2 x RSQ I have perform great in wattage and TC SS mode.
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My 2 pence for what it’s worth ...they are all as bent as each other. Tony B has been in the game long enough to know the kind of antics that goes on in China, saying otherwise is dishonest...Having said that I don’t know the guy and have no reason to think he’s lying. Due to the public address via a he said, she said though, as with anything like this I’m squarely on the fence....
I will throw this in as food for thought...
A short memory we have indeed .....3:45 oh and then skip to 6:00
in Vics own words “The Hypocracy”I find it funny when these mass calls for boycotts occur, RUN AWAY ....don’t use this product...... don’t buy from this shop etc, are you seriously asking the public, who when it suits by the way; remind them “You don’t know me” ....to stand up in arms because company A stitched up company B, who in turn stitches up companies C, D etc
Where’s the calls for mass boycott over genuine issues I.e unsafe mods that companies won’t address with recalls??? Don’t see many of those collective calls to action. These big name reviewers have the weight and support to get things done and serve the community as well as line thier pockets.......but alas we are asked to boycott VooPoo because vandyvape “possibly” got backstabbed over an egg in your face moment????
Somethings very wrong with this picture.......
I personally have no reason not to try either product when released ....and let’s not pretend either of these two companies are morally straight, they were probably trying to stitch each other up long before any of this happened and will continue to do so long after this is done
In the words of the late Lenny McClean “When you dance with the devil, you wait for the song to stop ...know what I mean”
Klowdz fer Daze!This thing has major vapor production I can tell you that! I mean do you see this VAPOR PRODUCTION.
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amen brother.
Blow yer face off but do not disappoint a vape reviewer.
Childish kneejerk drama.
And the accused in this has been the only one who so far has posted anything official in print.
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This was the first one and is the main one, I could try and and merge the others into here but it’ll bugger up this thread now, been trying to point people here instead
But a vape reviewer lost his dream!
And how many go back to smoking because of many Vape reviewers only wanting to push the latest and greatest 200W rig that goes thru $5 coils every 2 days?
Or their mod dies only days after getting it?
There are vape reviewers and there are vape reviewers that are good for the vaping community.
How many are self serving and how many are serving the community?
Not passing judgement on Tony just a statement about vape reviewers and how that many of them have lost their way.
This thread was made a month ago....... just sayin
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Tony added that bit to the description of the video. That seriously makes me wonder how much Tony really knew about the inner workings of this deal and how much he relied on VV's word. His story would still have to hold up though, unless he is just lying (which I doubt since that would jeopardize subs on his channel).
Until someone provides some sort of proof, I'm telling myself to call BS on all of it. It's all fun to watch though lol
This thing has major vapor production I can tell you that! I mean do you see this VAPOR PRODUCTION.
Both of these replies made me literally laugh out loud
To be honest I still thought the pulse 80w was being made by VooPoo until yesterday lol. Or whatever company they said back when it was first announced. I don't like VV at all and didn't think they was part of this. Shows how much I pay attention lately.
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Bingo !!!
Mooch is perhaps the only 'vape' reviewer who is focused on making vaping safer and helping new vapers learn about vaping safety.
imho his youtube channel is a must watch for anyone who uses any replaceable battery vaping device.
Long live Mooch.
imho his youtube channel is a must watch for anyone who uses any replaceable battery vaping device.
Long live Mooch.
yep I think he rode into this very gullible and trusting.
And was screwed by both company's but in my opinion at this point Vandy Vape were the primary engineers of his screwing.
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But a vape reviewer lost his dream!
And how many go back to smoking because of many Vape reviewers only wanting to push the latest and greatest 200W rig that goes thru $5 coils every 2 days?
Or their mod dies only days after getting it?
There are vape reviewers and there are vape reviewers that are good for the vaping community.
How many are self serving and how many are serving the community?
Not passing judgement on Tony just a statement about vape reviewers and how that many of them have lost their way.
I can’t pass judgement on Tony or any of them really “I don’t know them”
but outwardly it seems some have lost thier way and it’s become about pick up the next Paycheck. ....this whole reviewer releasing products thing is so entirely fucked alround, you just don’t see activity like this around non named products or small companies getting fucked over and closed because there is no vested interest to support them.
To me this situation is either
1) a tactical move, the Gene chip was never going in that mod lets get the vandyvape chip out there and blame voopoo if it’s shit
2) An oh fuck what do I do, Ive already publicly promoted this too early, quick put something out there to pull it back
I’m still holding out for a number 2
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Or this as number 3) this was what my dance with the devil quote was about
And there could also be hanky panky involved with one or both of the company's copying the others products.
Most everyone says that TonyB is a nice guy.
And most of us know where nice guys finish....
And most of us know where nice guys finish....
if you can't do it, see if huck or someone can do it and teach you, plus replace the yellow banner at the top of every page that says VU won 2017 awards with a "If you want to post more bitching and moaning about the pulse 80w click here" and link it to here
he can do it but it would be a horrible mess in the combined thread.
All train of thought in the thread would be lost.
But that might not be such a bad thing?
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I can do it, and I can also press other buttons too
I’m just saying trying to merge in 5 other threads into this one will cause havoc in its history
DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!I can do it, and I can also press other buttons too
Why?
Thing is contracts were signed, piece of shit Voopoo broke them. Then willingly and maliciously strung VV and Tony along so they could get their copy of Tony's mod to Market before Tony.
Bottom line is fuck Voopoo, I myself support the Boycott. Even though I'm not a regulated mod Vaper I'll do my part to get the word out. With that it will hurt their bottom line for their unethical practices.
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Bottom line is fuck Voopoo, I myself support the Boycott. Even though I'm not a regulated mod Vaper I'll do my part to get the word out. With that it will hurt their bottom line for their unethical practices.
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Because I feel, there is a movement to make as many posts about this subject to build momentum of it on the net, merging the threads minimizes that from VU. I may be totally wrong. But we keep getting new threads made about this. Seems no ne knows how to use the search feature any more
what proof do you have there are signed contracts
Where are the contracts and what do they say?
And who were they with?
It is all in the details.
And who were they with?
It is all in the details.
And some just want to capitalize on it?
It's in the details with Tony, do I trust Tony or Voopoo. Well difficult choice there ya know.
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I can do it, and I can also press other buttons too
Please don't combine the threads- that always turns into a cluster and is hard to follow
Save it for when the same poster repeatedly posts the same question or some such
I mean, look at how many Smok problem threads there are
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No shit - everyone knows you are supposed to FIST the FDA
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Please don't combine the threads- that always turns into a cluster and is hard to follow
Save it for when the same poster repeatedly posts the same question or some such
I mean, look at how many Smok problem threads there are
No I’m not going to, but I’d ask if you or any one else see others posting the same exact video of Tony B or the same content just to politely add a link back to this thread if I’ve missed them, don’t give those threads air time
I’ve moved everything I can see to this section now and posted a link back to this thread
Let the other threads die off
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Hang on, his video's description says...
"NOTE: I’m told that Voopoo May not’ve “signed” a contract for the 40k boards, but there were many oral, email, and even an email directly to me stating they would deliver 40k boards to us. Also, when VV sent someone to that factory, they made them sit and wait for 3 hours then came out to say they couldn’t meet. But there was eventually a face to face where they agreed to provide the chips."
Also, when you read Voopoo's response, they say...
"we have no long term contract with the accuser"
This makes me believe there was a contract between VV and VP at some point in the process, possibly in the early stages when VV was given the Gene boards for R&D and prototypes. But they must have never signed a production contract for the 40k boards.
Am I missing something?
Could you just close those threads and post a link to this one? That's a good option I've seen mods use on other forums. Merging would make this already nonsensical thread even more crazy.
Again it comes down to who to believe, someone who has a long standing reputation as being honest, despises drama or one that has a less than honest reputation. I know who I'm siding with.
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Being honest but misled?
Always a possibility.
I am honest but never ask me about color coordinating.
And just as a little dig I do not think he was totally honest about the Pulse BF mod.
It is pretty much a piece of crap.
Honest or another name for it?
Since he virtually never said anything bad about vape stuff he reviewed.
And we all know that is not correct.
I am not saying that tony is dishonest at all just that he does not tell all that he should.
As should be done in an honest vape review.
Tony strikes me as a nice salesman type.
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