Damascuss Earth kill them with no poison
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Lannie does most of her her garden work while it is still cool, like at Oh-dark-thirty in the morning while I am still in bed. It takes both of us to lift the cabbage hat off that raised bed; she cannot do it by herself, and I am still asleep while she is out there. For the things that require my help, she has to wait until I am up and have stared into my coffee cup for a couple hours.
No, bugs. We have most of the plants protected from the bunnies by using wire mesh around the pots or raised beds. One year, however, after the wabbits dug under the perimeter fence, they ate all the flowers off the squash plants (which are in the open tilled area), so we got nothing that year.
G'Night Sarah, see you tomorrow my friend
And how much will that cost me for an area 50'x80'? We have LOTS of bugs of various types and a HUGE area to cover. And what about bugs that never touch the dirt? The cabbage moth flies in, lands on the plant, eats it, then flies off. If they don't live in/on the Earth, it ain't gonna kill them.
Well, now it is past midnight and I will turn into a pumpkin any minute, so I better crawl into the sack and vegetate. BS at ya tomorrow.
Don't forget the lights, Jimi. G'nite.
Don't forget the lights, Jimi. G'nite.
No they land on your cabbage then lay eggs which hatch into larva which eats your plants. Damascuss Earth is finely ground shells you dust your crops with it and even to crawl on it it laserates the hell out of them. too tired to correct the spellin.
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G'night Rich and anyone who stumbles in see ya all tomorrow my friends
I'll get the lights
Anyone have thoughts on yesterday being the last day of Net Neutrality?
I'm thinking soon we'll see discussion of vaping curtailed by way of tele-coms & ISPs throttling content pertaining to vaping out of pressure from Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, Big Policy. Not only vaping will see curtailing. I'm fairly sure a lot of the Open Courseware sites will pounded into having charge fees so as to cover extra costs to access high speed bandwidth, needed to host and deliver videos for lectures, presentations of educational material.
There will also be a lot of what is now "free" content vanish due to inability to sustain no advertising revenue, the sites start hiding content behind paywalls, again offsetting their costs to keep the site going at optimum. Lots of independent news will be lost. There'll be no generation of new ideas, not there's much in the way of "new" any more, yet different eyes lead to different voices, different trains of thought, different processes, et al.
What will folks do when the "official" propaganda is the only narrative accessible? Will Tor and Freenet wind up being the Big Brother alternative, when funding gets tightened down? Will there even be freedom of speech or religion any more?
Just some thoughts and some wondering. Think we've already lost so if this seems alarmists, ... it's not.
I'm thinking soon we'll see discussion of vaping curtailed by way of tele-coms & ISPs throttling content pertaining to vaping out of pressure from Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, Big Policy. Not only vaping will see curtailing. I'm fairly sure a lot of the Open Courseware sites will pounded into having charge fees so as to cover extra costs to access high speed bandwidth, needed to host and deliver videos for lectures, presentations of educational material.
There will also be a lot of what is now "free" content vanish due to inability to sustain no advertising revenue, the sites start hiding content behind paywalls, again offsetting their costs to keep the site going at optimum. Lots of independent news will be lost. There'll be no generation of new ideas, not there's much in the way of "new" any more, yet different eyes lead to different voices, different trains of thought, different processes, et al.
What will folks do when the "official" propaganda is the only narrative accessible? Will Tor and Freenet wind up being the Big Brother alternative, when funding gets tightened down? Will there even be freedom of speech or religion any more?
Just some thoughts and some wondering. Think we've already lost so if this seems alarmists, ... it's not.
@Jimi we have half a bag of DE (diatomaceous earth) out in the barn that I use for various things. This war with the cabbage predators has been waging for 14 years now. I've tried EVERYTHING, including the DE, and nothing works. I even got an old-timey gardening book chock full of tips and tricks of how to do things the old-fashioned, sneaky way to deter bugs on cabbage, and I still haven't found anything that works. The Sevin is absolutely the last resort. If that doesn't work, then I give up. Right at the moment, it's not actually cabbage moths that are the problem. I haven't even SEEN one of those yet. Whatever is eating the cabbage is in the dirt. The screened cage is keeping out anything above ground. And there are no little worms (or anything) on the leaves that I've seen. Obviously, something is on them at some time (night time, I guess), but I haven't seen them yet.
The birds Rich was talking about were starlings, but we don't usually have those here, in fact I've only ever seen them that one summer. It was a very dry, drought summer that year, and our garden was the only green spot for probably a million miles.
The birds passing by honed in on that and decimated it. Seriously, in one evening, they took out all my tomato and pepper plants, leaving only the leafless stems. The next day, the stems were gone. I've NEVER known any animal that wanted to eat tomato leaves or stems. The fruit, yes, but not the greens. It was quite jaw-dropping. Anyway, it's green from horizon to horizon this year, so I don't expect any starling raids. And so far, the guineas are keeping the grasshoppers down to a dull roar (that's my other garden destroyer). All those wild cats seem to be keeping most of the rabbits in check, as well, so really, the garden isn't in such bad shape except for the jungle of weeds which I can't seem to stay ahead of. If I could just get some damblasted CABBAGES this year! I want sauerkraut! 
The birds Rich was talking about were starlings, but we don't usually have those here, in fact I've only ever seen them that one summer. It was a very dry, drought summer that year, and our garden was the only green spot for probably a million miles.
The birds passing by honed in on that and decimated it. Seriously, in one evening, they took out all my tomato and pepper plants, leaving only the leafless stems. The next day, the stems were gone. I've NEVER known any animal that wanted to eat tomato leaves or stems. The fruit, yes, but not the greens. It was quite jaw-dropping. Anyway, it's green from horizon to horizon this year, so I don't expect any starling raids. And so far, the guineas are keeping the grasshoppers down to a dull roar (that's my other garden destroyer). All those wild cats seem to be keeping most of the rabbits in check, as well, so really, the garden isn't in such bad shape except for the jungle of weeds which I can't seem to stay ahead of. If I could just get some damblasted CABBAGES this year! I want sauerkraut! 
Sevin is the only insecticide I use on my gardens.
Works on Japanese Beetles which are horrible here.
It takes a while, since all it does in thin their exoskeletons until it no longer protects them from the elements.
Your description sounds like you are talking about diatomaceous earth, so I googled "Damascuss Earth" and got only one result: Amazon (who will sell you God if that is what you type) and their site also only showed bags of Diatomaceous Earth. And as Lannie said above, we have DE and it did not work.
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If you have Prime, do you get free shipping when you order God?
Ducking, in case lightning strikes...
I think I'd rather order a genie. Higher chance of getting my prayers answered. God might be a tad pissed off if he got stuffed inside a box and dropped by UPS. I call then OOPS.
I have searched for a lot of weird words/things and, invariably, the Amazon response is "we have X in stock" even if X is not something that can be sold. If you click the link on that Google response, however, you will get an Amazon response that "X is not in stock, would you like to search for Y" or some such similar bullshit. Obviously, they have paid Google to put them at the top of the Ads list no matter what is being searched for. I do find it funny, though, when I get a response like "God is not in stock" or "God was not found."
The same thing goes for mods and atomizers. Amazon does not sell them, but Amazon shows up in every search for them.
Hi Dale. The answer is VFW. No, that is not Veterans of Foreign Wars, but Very Fucking Windy.
Did some limb lopping and carting off to the brush pile, but not much else.
Did you get to wherever you were going today?
You must be buying a LOT of items from Amazon....
I just did a search, Amazon was nowhere to be found.....
Yep, had to go to Sedona, was there an back by 3:00 this afternoon.Hi Dale. The answer is VFW. No, that is not Veterans of Foreign Wars, but Very Fucking Windy.
Did some limb lopping and carting off to the brush pile, but not much else.
Did you get to wherever you were going today?
I searched for a mod once and, just for fun, clicked the Amazon link when they said they had them. All they showed me was a page of mod stickers to recover your mod.
Let's see. I painted Phillip's truck port, made a new address sign for the house, and put a galvanized pole where I removed a 4x4 to hold a rain gauge. Slow day.How was Sarah's day?
You build anything special today?......
Not really, but once you have bought something, they send endless sales e-mails, all of which I trash without even looking at. They got my number and won't let go.You must be buying a LOT of items from Amazon....
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I love the geography around Sedona, but you can keep the tourist-trap town itself.
You been in any metal workers unions in the past?.......
It was hotter than the hubs of hell today, had to be pushing 110....not bad up north, but still to warm.
Supposed to cool back down into the 90's in a day or two......thank goodness.
I wish. Union workers make good money. Even Phillip can't get in a union, and he works with steel for 40 hours or more a week.You been in any metal workers unions in the past?.......
I think we only hit mid-80s today, but likely it was all that wind that kept it down.
I see, sounds like you're pretty good with metal work tho.....
Was looking at the Sturgis forecast earlier....couldn't believe the temperature swings....95 to 65, etc....pretty wild temp swings.
I learned to be, out of necessity. Still waiting for Phillip to build his forge tho. Might take a year or two.I see, sounds like you're pretty good with metal work tho.....
Is Phil's place of work a union shop? I ask because I was almost in a union once upon a time (1974) and the entire shop was union -- you were either IN the union or you didn't work there. I was "let go" after my 30 day trial (one day before I would have become a union member) because I asked too many questions. What they want is compliant workers who do their job, pay their union dues, and shut the fuck up. That just isn't me, so I was glad to be gone.
That is exactly how they operate.
They refuse to hire union workers. That way, they can get away with paying less than Walmart or McDonalds. Texas hates unions.
Sturgis is right on the edge of the Black Hills and, all "mountain" locations have more ups and downs than those out and away from them.
Perhaps we'll see you on the TV hit series "Forged In Fire" soon.....
We never miss an episode.Perhaps we'll see you on the TV hit series "Forged In Fire" soon.....
Ah, a "right to work" state...
Hahahaha.....
Yep. A person can be fired for anything, and the boss does not have to provide a reason.
When we lived back in Orygun, I had a forge in my shop (a left-over from the previous owner). I made a few knife blades, but in general, didn't use it much.
If you ever start making machetes, put me on the list....
I need one for whacking vegetation in EC.
Hello everyone!
A name that sounds good... but....
Evening Eric...how are things in Paradise....
You'll likely be living there permanently by the time he builds a forge. Getting everything just right takes money, and he only gets $10 an hour and has expenses.If you ever start making machetes, put me on the list....
I need one for whacking vegetation in EC.
Sounds like you'll have to toss a forge together by yourself.
He gets more money than I do. I've been telling him to do it one step at a time. First, make a floor. Dropping hot steel on a dead lawn is not good for the house.