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What are these coils called and what ohms will a single one resd
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These are a set of CSSFC's (Corrugated Staple Staggered Fused Claptons)
They will vary like any build with different metals, I used mostly SS (Round Wire Frames and 2ply Ribbon Frames) and these were a .07 ( .14 Single) with 4 Wraps/3mm ID. If made using N80 frames and Kanthal Ribbon it would be closer to .09 ( .18 Single) with the same specs.
The Corrugated Builds and Tsuka Builds are mostly for attention...they are spitty and cooler of a vape, not what I would prefer to vape but they do well on Instagram.
I just got a like from 180 pages back...weird.
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Its crazy to see how far back this thread goes...Ive got the longest limit for posts per pages on and its pretty unbelievable that its grown so much since I started here...My first post was like pages 30-35 and now theres 298 pages here....insane how many people have joined and are improving this skill here...
3 strand braid also annealed the wire to keep it straight
the vid I took is too long n horrible but I had a brain storm to use key rings to anchor the wire. my next braid I know I need to tape the wires as long as twist them to the rings they kept falling off now to figure out what to do with this.
the vid I took is too long n horrible but I had a brain storm to use key rings to anchor the wire. my next braid I know I need to tape the wires as long as twist them to the rings they kept falling off now to figure out what to do with this.Just did simple 3/4 wrap .2 on fluke 
I've looked pretty far back in the pages looking for tips/methods and have seen pages of raymo saying he hated ribbon builds, and some of whiteowl getting tips from ray and others pretty much the way I do now. It's crazy how much better you can get with practice. You guys put some amazing pics up and help all of us newbies out now (appreciated! ;p) Even I am getting where I notice a difference from when I first started seeking tips here. I could barely do a SSFC and today I let the drill rip on one with no ribbon sliders/bindings and got it done. never thought id be able to do it a few months ago.
I retrct everything bad Ive said about building with ribbon
I'm suddenly reminded of copious use of spool tamers. 
Just so everyone knows....
I learned how to build from slippy_eel and Tom Forde (ECF).
After about a month or so from making my first clapton I could make lots of aliens, staples and SFC but I couldn't get a SSFC. I didn't like Tom's method and slippy_eel does aliens, SSFC, Staggs... almost everything with no swivels so I couldn't do that either.
I'm not sure why I came to VU but I'm sure asking raymo how to set up SSFCs was within my first 10 posts.
That's where I learned to float stuff. In short that's how we build almost everything and it the idea is you only hook the frames up to the swivel and drill. Your ribbon stack, your staggerton core, your binary stack or whatever just sits (or "floats") between the frames held in by ribbon sliders then you fuse around it. As you pull the frames the whole thing gets tight as a cat's ass if you've done it right.
I still build every damn thing like this because it works on every damn thing. That won't change until I get a hand vise.
Anyone struggling with any staggered whatever, do yourself a favor and learn to float that shit in there then you'll be able to build anything.
Just so everyone knows....
I learned how to build from slippy_eel and Tom Forde (ECF).
After about a month or so from making my first clapton I could make lots of aliens, staples and SFC but I couldn't get a SSFC. I didn't like Tom's method and slippy_eel does aliens, SSFC, Staggs... almost everything with no swivels so I couldn't do that either.
I'm not sure why I came to VU but I'm sure asking raymo how to set up SSFCs was within my first 10 posts.
That's where I learned to float stuff. In short that's how we build almost everything and it the idea is you only hook the frames up to the swivel and drill. Your ribbon stack, your staggerton core, your binary stack or whatever just sits (or "floats") between the frames held in by ribbon sliders then you fuse around it. As you pull the frames the whole thing gets tight as a cat's ass if you've done it right.
I still build every damn thing like this because it works on every damn thing. That won't change until I get a hand vise.
Anyone struggling with any staggered whatever, do yourself a favor and learn to float that shit in there then you'll be able to build anything.
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mutation v4 ohm .21 wicked n juiced usin my fuhatten mech
No offense mate, but that looks like the result of my kid tying his shoes when he was 5.
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No offense mate, but that looks like the result of my kid tying his shoes when he was 5.
Bob that's not the spirit the guy is new to coil building
tips on how to improve it and encouragement are in order, we all start somewhere, I don't know the first thing about doing braids properly yet I'm waiting for lizard to nail the process then do it on claptons
Lizard I saw these on Pinterest (not my coil) been wanting to make it ever since this is what the claptons look like braided this is what to aim for I reckon coil porn or what!
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They are very danceable coils, they make me feel like putting on clapton shoes and doing the twist!No offense mate, but that looks like the result of my kid tying his shoes when he was 5.
@Lizzardking the variety and frequency of your builds is impressive in the last few pages. keep at it man. 
its fucking lovely watching all the new people show up, progress, and start helping out with the newer-new people that came after them.
its fucking lovely watching all the new people show up, progress, and start helping out with the newer-new people that came after them.
Bob that's not the spirit the guy is new to coil building
tips on how to improve it and encouragement are in order, we all start somewhere, I don't know the first thing about doing braids properly yet I'm waiting for lizard to nail the process then do it on claptons
Lizard I saw these on Pinterest (not my coil) been wanting to make it ever since this is what the claptons look like braided this is what to aim for I reckon coil porn or what!
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You're right.
Sorry, LizzardKing.
Lmao dude them three strands were only 7 inches long. I Like to see you try a 28g ss 3 strand with 7in pieces! Not even Clapton wire just round you go cry in to mommy to tie ya shoesNo offense mate, but that looks like the result of my kid tying his shoes when he was 5.
I got you kp ill get a new roll of Clapton wed wish I could find small premade Clapton at local shop but they only have 26g30gBob that's not the spirit the guy is new to coil building
tips on how to improve it and encouragement are in order, we all start somewhere, I don't know the first thing about doing braids properly yet I'm waiting for lizard to nail the process then do it on claptons
Lizard I saw these on Pinterest (not my coil) been wanting to make it ever since this is what the claptons look like braided this is what to aim for I reckon coil porn or what!
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Wish I could post this horrible vid its too long
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Can you make claptons yourself? 28g core 38g wrap should allow them to braid easier than thicker stuff
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Let's see the mounted shot great job!
Let me finish these burritos my wife made for me then ill bust open my goon
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I tried a22 26 clap horrible did a 22 24 wasokthingis not many brick n mortar stores in philly pa carry spool wire longer than 50 ft
Forgot i used 26g instead of 28 so made a single coil on pharaoh.. Woulda came to about .11ish to .09ish in duals on goon and although my dna250 wouldnt mind it it just would be to hot for my tastes. Anywho.. 26G kanthal, stagger is 36g kanthal fused with 36g ss316l and 5x .5 kanthal ribbon. All KP wire
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Can you order some probably cheaper online?
What?! 22/26! That's not even clapton.
Don't buy wire from a store...just get on kbee wholesale and get some practice 38g and 40g, $20 for 3000'. Core wire, fuse wire and ribbon I get all over but Coil Society is where I get most of my core and some ribbon. Great stuff.
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Forgot i used 26g instead of 28 so made a single coil on pharaoh.. Woulda came to about .11ish to .09ish in duals on goon and although my dna250 wouldnt mind it it just would be to hot for my tastes. Anywho.. 26G kanthal, stagger is 36g kanthal fused with 36g ss316l and 5x .5 kanthal ribbon. All KP wire
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And that is exactly the reason I love the pharoah so much! Awesome build
Woah... It gets said alot ere im sure.. But wrapping your core with thicker then say 34g is really wasted wire man.. You live in the US? Ill make you some clapton free.
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34g is core wire round these parts. 
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I was praying with what I had 22 core 26 wrap I did a 22 core n 24 wrap for the area 51 coil was really cool affect had to Clapton the 22 then decore stretch the 24 into alien then hammer the 24 flat n wrap around 4mm but only had 24 n 22 n 3mm so was a lol winky when time to wrap called for 20 core 24 wrap
If you can make me a Clapton smaller than 26 30 I can make you n kingpin braided claptonss that should be a respectable ohm or dual or single coil if there enough ill braid my ass off for a few sets of coils for peeps on here standard length for two coils 4 wrap 6 strand is about 3 strands at 2- 3 feet long if I do a 3 strand about foot long each
For a braid you'd want 28/40 clapton if you use a regulated mod or it'll be way too big.
For a mech you'd probably want the same but n80 or SS cores.
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For a mech you'd probably want the same but n80 or SS cores.
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And my main issues finances I'm only work in part time trying to keep my house above ground n staying away from smokes helps by cap on but a struggle to maintain juice levels n have fun with wire lol
This what I basing math of gauges for a Clapton
braid this a 6 strand 28g ss dual is .15 n yes the cap fit n this was squished into the avocado 24 so if I can find a really small gauge Clapton I can prob have same ohms with less wraps
I was basing that on 6 strand builds I've seen before. 5 or 6 wraps, 3mm, 28/40g.
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Some ni80 aliens ....
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Some ni80 aliens ....
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Are they yours manny as in self built?
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Your all good mate I'm in the uk shipping will be a PITA
keep em all for yourself although thanks for the offer matey
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Lizard did you create these?
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Woahhh i get a little excited when i start making aliens... The O face
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