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MrMeowgi

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Tried some .3*.8 ribbon wrapped in 32kanthal.. ohms out at .19 vaping great.
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raymo2u

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I've been keeping up with your Instagram posts and gotta say I'm well impressed, beautiful work as always. Hows production coming on your little project?

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The Clamps? Im just waiting on the last prototype for both the drill and swivel clams to arrive and then if they pass then Im going to be picking up what I can afford to sell to others, I cant afford a loan or anything so it will probably be very small batches until I get some real capital and then find stores to get them into.....but even the rough prototype did well, I know it will be a great help to those that build and it wont be expensive like other companies have done in the past (like the previous company I worked).

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Man that's sweet. I just happen to have gotten all the same wire last week. Did you use a swivel set up or by hand. Saw a video done by hand.

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I used a swivel that's mounted on my wall with a nail, after I got it wrapped I hammered it out . Has ramp up time tho.
 

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Lol next time you wrap it pull on the lead with pliars and keep pulling hard as you wrap it.

That's what it took for me get it right. I've had a few go wonky on me, but as soon as I realized that I just had to keep pulling on the end of the wire while it coiled, they've all been fine
 

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The Clamps? Im just waiting on the last prototype for both the drill and swivel clams to arrive and then if they pass then Im going to be picking up what I can afford to sell to others, I cant afford a loan or anything so it will probably be very small batches until I get some real capital and then find stores to get them into.....but even the rough prototype did well, I know it will be a great help to those that build and it wont be expensive like other companies have done in the past (like the previous company I worked).

Appreciate you checking the page and your support!
Heavy, so they might be hard to come by on my side of the water? Have to let me buy a set direct from you if that's possible, or point me in the direction of a company you sell to that will ship over here cause on the video it did look like it took the rattle out of quick starting and stopping. No worries :) just keep making that coil porn la

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Heavy, so they might be hard to come by on my side of the water? Have to let me buy a set direct from you if that's possible, or point me in the direction of a company you sell to that will ship over here cause on the video it did look like it took the rattle out of quick starting and stopping. No worries :) just keep making that coil porn la

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That was just the V1 prototype...the V2 spin even smoother, no wobble at all and have beveling, even made of t6 aluminum and uses 1.7mm button head screws for ease of use.
The drill clamps just got in but the moment I hooked it up and found I had a problem with it spinning on acis wrong so Im hoping one more adjustment and everything should be ready to go.
I will be selling them myself until I can come up with some capital and get them out to stores....I will let you know when they are done and I will save a set ;)

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KarmicRage

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That was just the V1 prototype...the V2 spin even smoother, no wobble at all and have beveling, even made of t6 aluminum and uses 1.7mm button head screws for ease of use.
The drill clamps just got in but the moment I hooked it up and found I had a problem with it spinning on acis wrong so Im hoping one more adjustment and everything should be ready to go.
I will be selling them myself until I can come up with some capital and get them out to stores....I will let you know when they are done and I will save a set ;)

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Loving it dude. Nice one. Hopefully won't have to wait too much longer haha :)

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Ain't been here in a minute, though I do lurk in the shadows on occasion. The tapatalk app drives me fucking insane, otherwise I'd be here everyday like the old days haha. Here's some stuff that I been tinkering with as if late:
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very nice build. im really looking forward to your impressions on that tank too...
I already knew I was gonna love it - I have a V1 clone and the flavor was awesome. One of the absolute best RTAs I had. The V3 fixes the condensation "leaking" issues that the V1 and V2 have.
 

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Wow 240$ drop on a rda I hope u love it


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I do! And $250 is WAY too much for any atomizer, but I indirectly traded for it - I had a mod laying around that I wasn't using, so I sold it to pay for the Scottua.
 

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That was just the V1 prototype...the V2 spin even smoother, no wobble at all and have beveling, even made of t6 aluminum and uses 1.7mm button head screws for ease of use.
The drill clamps just got in but the moment I hooked it up and found I had a problem with it spinning on acis wrong so Im hoping one more adjustment and everything should be ready to go.
I will be selling them myself until I can come up with some capital and get them out to stores....I will let you know when they are done and I will save a set ;)

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The key question: What is the weight of this part on the right?
During design, we always strive for maximum weight reduction (for micro cores).
 

raymo2u

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The key question: What is the weight of this part on the right?
During design, we always strive for maximum weight reduction (for micro cores).
Around 6 grams, its T6 Aluminum and very small in comparison to the UsaOhmMeters swivel clamp. The goal was to make clamps that did not wobble or keep momentum during start/stop, so core twisting during start/stop doesnt happen with them. Ive shown them on my livestreams with both the delrin and aluminum version hold just 2 strands of 30g SS doing start/stop runs with the 2000rpm drill (full speed then dead stop) and the cores stayed straight the entire test.
I will be putting up a small similar test in my Instagram story later today, those swivel clamps are finished designs, the drill clamp only needed one adjustment and should be ready very soon.

Whats available out there versus my design, lots of weight reduction, with thought and testing put into rotational dynamics/momentum. Simple and easy to use. Im hoping both clamps together will cost around what one clamp from my competitors cost, while being aluminum and higher performing.

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TooCruel

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Around 6 grams, its T6 Aluminum and very small in comparison to the UsaOhmMeters swivel clamp. The goal was to make clamps that did not wobble or keep momentum during start/stop, so core twisting during start/stop doesnt happen with them. Ive shown them on my livestreams with both the delrin and aluminum version hold just 2 strands of 30g SS doing start/stop runs with the 2000rpm drill (full speed then dead stop) and the cores stayed straight the entire test.
I will be putting up a small similar test in my Instagram story later today, those swivel clamps are finished designs, the drill clamp only needed one adjustment and should be ready very soon.

Whats available out there versus my design, lots of weight reduction, with thought and testing put into rotational dynamics/momentum. Simple and easy to use. Im hoping both clamps together will cost around what one clamp from my competitors cost, while being aluminum and higher performing.

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I asked because we had similar problems in versions 1 and 2 ...
The problem was weight, not shape :) I tried quite a lot of aluminum designs(2015-2016), but the timing and weight was not encouraging (I was not happy with it +/- 6-7grams too). In ABS version 3.1 it was possible to reduce the mass to 3gams (+ 3.5g from the drill side).
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In contrast to aluminum, the problem was the positioning of small wires (0.12-0.18mm cores). They often break up because alu is just hard and give him some positioning shape / thumbs for correct positioning is little bit hard. Eg:
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I have no access to "UsaOhmMeters" because i live in Europe, but in your picture, it looks... not well(print quality). I downloaded a photo from them professional site :)
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vs my not professional tool made in Poland:
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I will gladly buy 1 alu set from you. I'm curious if it works fine / better than lightest ABS...
Or we can exchange(you will test a good ABS project from the EU / I will test alu version -
I like your work - just leave me an email with address/country: [email protected] )... I will find something for exchange :)
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Jriley

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Funny, out of all the things builders spend alot of time on... Clamps/swivels will usually be #1. I don't mind using fishing swivels myself (I use kroks) but I am constantly thinking of clamp (drill clamp) ideas at work.

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TooCruel

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Funny, out of all the things builders spend alot of time on... Clamps/swivels will usually be #1. I don't mind using fishing swivels myself (I use kroks) but I am constantly thinking of clamp (drill clamp) ideas at work.

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All in all true :) Now we're testing ... 20! different bearings. To choose the best / cheap for coil builders.
Eg I use 3d ceramic bearings:
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But = 80-100$ in Poland, so rotary tool would have to cost $ 100-120.
But looking for the best alternative, we can use equally good swivel / 10x cheaper Eg:
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...= reduce the price of the whole tool to 20$ max ...
Eg most manufacturers of rotary tools what i saw... Uses cheap ABEC etc:
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And then people cry cuz custom fishing swirls work better :)

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I use multiple size #2 swivels and a Bones Red Bearing setup, I can paraclap a single ply of .3 Ribbon with 40g and not have that many issues but tension is the main problem with core twisting.

@TooCruel I will hit you up as soon as I have finished drill prototypes.
The drill clamp wont have any real involvement with cores twisting from weight but the swivel side I feel rotational dynamics have much to do with it. At small weights of 5-10 grams the symmetry and shape has alot of contribution to the start and stop twisting over time but if most of the wight is spread out at the portion where the wire grabs then you may have those issues. If the shape allows for a equal amount of weight or close to it than the issues can be minimized. Alot of the thought Ive put into the clamp came from designs from my days of home-improvement in R/C cars and planes.
Those clamps look amazing!
The printing your shop does looks wonderful in comparison to anything that IVe seen previously BTW.
 

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Got a 30mm Deathtrap in a trade today, and had a series framed staple waiting for it. I guess I thought the posts would be a bit roomier, because I had to do some adjusting to get this rather long coil to fit. I used 46g binding because it's been here for a while and I figured I should at least use it for something. The vape is okay, but not great. Gonna have to try something similar with a larger ID and a couple less wraps.

12 ply 0.3x0.1, 2x30g frames, 46g binding, 3.5mm ID, 8/9 wraps, 0.42Ω

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MrMeowgi

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Well, that one wasn't "all that", so I redid it. 10 ply 0.3, 2x30 frames, 42g binding, 6/7 wraps, 5.0mm ID, 0.52Ω. MUCH better vape this time around. Got it on the HOG.

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Damn, you can just whip up nice coils that fast?kills me to fumble through a fused Clapton.

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champton

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Trying to get into slightly more advanced coils. This is my first attempt at double-helixing a pair of twisted coils. These are made from 2 pieces of 24awg Kanthal and 2 pieces of 28awg NiChrome I had left over from my earlier attempts at fused claptons. There was one small imperfection, but overall, I'm quite happy with the result.

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champton

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Thanks. I've noticed that the key seems to be matching your hand speed with the spin of the drill and maintaining constant tension. It's almost like making a fused clapton, except you have to hold the wire at a proper angle so the wire slides into the grooves of your twist. Probably the reason I picked it up so fast.
 
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KarmicRage

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Thanks. I've noticed that the key seems to be matching your hand speed with the spin of the drill and maintaining constant tension. It's almost like making a fused clapton, except you have to hold the wire at a proper angle so the wire slides into the grooves of your twist. Probably the reason I picked it up so fast.
Getting tighter with every upload la. I know what ya mean about picking it up faster though, with some wires I've had more success thinking about the setup prior to setting up than just getting my hands dirty and cracking on. Keep up the good work dude

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KarmicRage

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Decided to try one of those fancy schmancy builds to see how it vapes. I'm kinda hopin' the corrugated portion will hold a lot of juice? Not sure what I'm gonna put it in yet. Probably the CSMNT.

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I do believe that fits the category for fancy, not sure about schmancy though lol. Nice work la

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KarmicRage

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Be schmancy soon as it's installed. Beautiful coil like la

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