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CrazyChef v2.0

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Well then the hosting company needs to go, it's so slow
I agree 100%. I don't know who suggested the current host to Joe, but they need to be fired if they work for him. They have no idea what they're doing.
 

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IMO, then they aren't web-savvy...it's 2024, you should be.

I can get VU to load well, just takes some effort. It's loading fine for me now...from a non-US country. Joe don't host his w33d site in USA...der. VU is basically abandonware...bot fodder.

CloudFlare just is an intermediary between you and the domain...they provide D0S attack mitigation, etc.
 

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Use an Asian VPN location...der. Go where the food is...

This site isn't in North America.

VU just loaded in ABOUT 5 SECONDS.

/Fin
 

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Yup, most websites use cloudflare...
Yet here you are trying to give technical advice based on reviews of a service provider you obviously have some beef with...

And the "other" 2 vape large forums use Cloudflare, yet they have no issues. Why is that do you suppose?
Okay, let me put it in another way that you'll understand - you're a fucking idiot.

TrustPilot made me prove my "beef" with Cloudflare when Cloudflare tried to have my complaint taken down. I'm not trying to give technical advice here. I'm just reporting a very frustrating problem that others complain of too.

I don't know why this thread exists. People with legit issues are just told "gee it's working fine for me, duh, what's yer problem?" Then there are ordinary little grunts pretending to be tech experts, strolling up to belittle other users for posting about issues. Are you two the people designated to answer members posting on this thread?

If, as you say, ECF has Cloudflare too, and it isn't disrupting their service, then what are they doing differently or doing right, or how is their server better managed?

What kind of uninformed generalization is it to say "most websites use Cloudflare"? I did WHOIS lookups on several sites I visit all the time without issues, and they DO NOT use Cloudflare.

If you do a search in any browser search engine you can see people asking how to block Cloudflare (can't be done of course), why Cloudflare is tormenting them, WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT CLOUDFLARE.

If you think sites like Amazon or CNN.com or Wordpress are getting disrupted by Cloudflare too, you are in a bubble. You can visit them, and many, many other sites, day and night, any time, and not have Cloudflare jump up and keep you out.

"We have no control over it" is a pathetic out, the tail wagging the dog.
 

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The forum has been really slow the past few days. Something I have noticed is there are over 500 guests being reported online. I think that is hard to believe as true individuals just visiting. Coincidence or cause, I don't know, but maybe something to investigate. @5150sick
 

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Yup yup yup, I'm with you @gopher_byrd @Jimi . I do hate complaining, but geezer, had to get another email address in order to receive the notifications from here and VU runs crappie.
Do we need more people to pay? Would this help to get better servers or whatever it is that is needed for the forum to run smoothly?
Makes it so very difficult if/when you're in a PM and it's a serious conversation and all the sudden you are unable to reply :eek: get kicked off, can't get back on for who knows how long, the person thinks you just left them high n dry. Not good not good at all !!!
Please oh Please help us HELP the VU stay the VU !!!
 

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The fix is really quite simple - move the forum to a new server. I don't know where it's currently hosted, but there are MANY options, under $30/month, that are considerably more reliable than the current host.
 

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From what I can tell using a simple search, they switched to Shinjiru hosting in Malaysia 3 years ago. Crap hosting. I'll dig a bit deeper to see what I can find. @CJ would you mind letting us know where it's hosted?
 

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It's a bit of a challenge when a site is using Cloudflare as its CDN. Gotta find out what's behind it.

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I did a bit more digging. It looks like they switched from Shinjiru to a Ukranian host at VSYS at some point in the last 3 years. Another crap hosting company. Their main selling point is privacy for the company using their hosting services. Joe is extremely over-cautious when it comes to hosting, thinking that he can be shut down if hosting in the U.S. He wants the data stored offshore so that the U.S. can't regulate what's on the site. That's understandable. However, the major reliable hosting companies all offer offshore storage these days. There's no reason to resort to cheap quality hosting anymore.
 

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Apparently, Joe doesn't give a fuck about the forum any longer. There's an ad for MyFreedomSmokes.com on the main page. MyFreedomSmokes.com went out of business over 2 years ago. If he gave a shit, the least he could do is get his people to update the ads. These are PAID ads - so nobody is actually paying for that space the ad is taking up.
 

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Okies, I'm back to complaining again. Again, not getting email from here it stopped a few days ago. Then today, would get one or two every hour on the hour and thirty mark. Today, I posted about this and then it totally stopped again not too long after I posted, grrr.
I'm afraid of changing email address, yet again, that I may not get the verification email to get back on here.
:gaah: :wtf:
 

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I'm not the right person to ask about this.
I haven't received a Vaping Underground email since October 2023.

I've tried everything but change my email. I'm not doing that because I risk losing access to the forum and then we'd be really screwed.

The right person to talk to would be Joe.
The only place I can ever get ahold of Joe is on Facebook.
Right here: https://www.facebook.com/jpetner
 

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Have you checked your account preferences? I'm receiving mail from the forum just fine.
 

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Have you checked your account preferences? I'm receiving mail from the forum just fine.
This has been an ongoing issue.

Some people get emails, some don't.
There is no rhyme nor reason as to who or why it's happening.

I've checked, unchecked, rechecked, logged out, logged back in and rechecked, rebooted and rechecked...
I've tried just about everything I could with those little check boxes in preferences and still nothing changes.


If you click on page 3 of this thread and look at Oct 2023 you'll see a bunch of people having this same issue.
The fix then was: change your email address from Gmail to Yahoo.
I can't because I'm not risking losing access to the forum since I'm the only active person here with (some) admin privilege's.
 

2WhiteWolves

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Have you checked your account preferences? I'm receiving mail from the forum just fine.
What email client are you using? Was using Google, stop getting emails. Went to yahoo, been doing great until a week n half to two two weeks ago. When I did get a few they were all out of whack, some from a week ago then a few from a few days ago, just really weird!
I'm wondering if it has to do with AI, yahoo mentioned something about it and every since then it's messed up. Probably wrong, though.

Exactly like 5150 said, tried everything the same as he has done.
 

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Lannie

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Thank you for checking. Someone told me to clear my browser cache (which I didn't even know how to do until yesterday), and that worked. However, I have to do it every time I try to log in, so I think there's still something going on with VU, but at least now I know how to clear my cache and get logged in. So far, that's working, but I'm just taking it one day at a time. ;) I mean, I was able to access the forum for nearly 10 years with no problems, and then all of a sudden this past month, it kept locking me out. But if I can get in this way, I'll keep doing it. Thanks again!
 

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