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toolbox875

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Hi all,
Just received my son xcube 2. I notice the firing bar is sticking. Is there a fix? Or should I return this unit ? I just opened the box up
 

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My fire bar stuck too. In my case, the bar was just touching the case , if you were looking at your mod with the firebar towards you on the upper right corner.

The fix is an easy one, just loosen one of the four firebar allen screws where its sticking (in my case the upper right one) a fraction, and all is well. You would think QC would have caught that. At the shop where I bought it, they told me 3 others were the same way. I dosn't have to be loosened much, maybe a quarter to half a turn.Has not once been an issue since.

Once you get this mod figured out, I think you'll love it.
 

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Any advice on the best site for price and fast shipping for the x cube2?
 
Well Vaporjoes back in august had reported the X Cube II for $55.90 thru gearbest. thats when i jumped on it and ordered one. took 3-4 weeks to get it but at a great deal.
 

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ecig.com has the X Cube II back in stock, silver only, for $56 with free shipping, which is a great deal. I just ordered one, too good to pass up!
 
Not sure what you are asking. Do you mean what is the lowest resistance? 0.06 Ohm for the X Cube 2
Sorry Yes I am Looking for the lowest resistance (not temp control) that it will read to for kanthal builds? I was talk texting in to my phone and it spit out that jiburish.
I do not use temp control but I want something that can go down low like .08 or around that I have been making alien wire and love the vape but I can't run duel coils because the ohms are to low I might start vaping ti because that is safer than nickle wire but just don't want to start vaping something that can kill me that's why i stopped smoking in the first place:0
 

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Sorry Yes I am Looking for the lowest resistance (not temp control) that it will read to for kanthal builds? I was talk texting in to my phone and it spit out that jiburish.
I do not use temp control but I want something that can go down low like .08 or around that I have been making alien wire and love the vape but I can't run duel coils because the ohms are to low I might start vaping ti because that is safer than nickle wire but just don't want to start vaping something that can kill me that's why i stopped smoking in the first place:0


0.06 Ohm for the X Cube 2 Try some 22 gauge 304 stainless. I think you'll like it.
 

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A quick tip I figured out: If your eyesight is not the best, and you can't make out the second counter after rotating the screen 180 degrees so you can view all the info while in use, with the atty closer to you, opposite to how it come out of the box, which is with the atty facing away and fire bar toward you, I set it with fire bar facing away so you can view the screen in use, BUT IF YOU CANT, try this.

Now, thats handy in itself, but if you can not see the screen due to eyesight but want a near perfect 5 second pull, use the colours.

if you go into settings, LED, and select shade, select the speed to 7, and once its gone through all the colours and back to BLUE that is a perfect 5 second pull. 4.9-5S. If you set it to 8 its about 5.3 seconds, set to six about 4.6 seconds, so setting it from its standard 'fastest' to 7(It slows down to 15, then one after is slowest).

If you want a 3 second pull, set it to 3 or 4, 3 is about 2.7 seconds, 4 is about 3.1 seconds.

As soon as it gets to blue, that is when to stop pulling, and it is always set the same, it does not change once you set the speed.

This may be handy for some people. In figured it out this morning :).
 

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I forgot to add, if you want a 4 second pull, experiment between those numbers, but the 1st results in an almost constant 5.0 second pull, sometimes 4.9 or 5.1, but 90% is 5 Seconds.

If you like a longer pull time, for you insane :p people out there who are training to be employed at the local disco as their fog machine broke down, slow it down even more and you can get 6, 7 or more seconds, just release as soon as it turns from green to blue, the last colours on the cycle.
 

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so after watching the vaping bogan vid.

I like this mod alot

what I dislike most about it is the buttons for navigating the menu. Seems it could get a little messy at times. But so does my d2 and 3li

What I like most is the fact you have to pay for each upgrade.

WHAT???

Yes I like the fact they CHARGE EVERY USER FOR EACH UPGRADE
provided you only have to pay when new features are added.

This gives SMOK incentive to make upgrades unlike YIHI

so I can buy a $60 mod
pay a $3 more for Ti and SS. Sounds reasonable

In 2 months when someone discovers that some other wire works great in temp control, I can pay another $1 for that upgrade and not have to BUY A WHOLE NEW DEVICE

And its still alot cheaper then getting a dna200 mod

I wish I would have gotten this instead of my 3li now.

thanks for all the great info in this thread
 

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I dropped a dime on one last week. and while waiting for it can anyone with one recommend a good tank with NI-200 coils with great taste like an rda, and cloud mass???
I'm not sure but I think you can get ni-200 coils with a smok tfv4 subtank and I know it's a badass tank
 

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I'm not sure but I think you can get ni-200 coils with a smok tfv4 subtank and I know it's a badass tank
there are now 11 coils available and for sale. not everyone has them. you have to really look for them all.
single
dual
triple
quad
sextuple
ni 200
ni 200 air (has extra air holes)
Ti
rba single
rba double
and Im missing one
think its a clapton or something

But what is not released yet is the SS coil which if you look on Smok website the only mention is in the xcube 2 area where it says they will be releasing an ss coil for the tfv4 to go along with the SS mode on the xcube. And since the new treebox mini will have SS TC standard on it, I am sure the SS coil is coming
 
hey I using a subtank with tc coils on my x cube 2 and it keeps coming up saying theres a short but if I put it in watt mode it works then works in tc mode for 5 mins then says short again this only started after I updated my mod has anyone else had this or know what to do please
 

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hey I using a subtank with tc coils on my x cube 2 and it keeps coming up saying theres a short but if I put it in watt mode it works then works in tc mode for 5 mins then says short again this only started after I updated my mod has anyone else had this or know what to do please
I dont own the xcube 2 (yet)

but if you are using a kanger subtank, I have had major issues with them in TC period

make sure teh coil/rba deck is as tight as you can get it in the base
make sure the bas eis as tight as you can get it in the mod
make sure the center pin of the base is sitting flush and the oring is not messed up.
if using the rba deck, make sure your screws are good and tight

make sure everything is cooled off
relock the resistance
make sure it is reading the coil right
for a stock kanger
it should read bewteen .14-.16

you should not really fire a Ni coil in power mode, that in itself can mess up the coil and the cotton.
 
me and my girlfriend own x cubes and iv tried it on hers and its fine works mint and I updated hers the same time as mine (its hurting my brain)
iv even tried a different tank and coil still saying the same thing.
I only fire it on 6 watts just to reset it so I can use it for 5 mins haha but that's what I don't get if it was a short it would say the same thing in other modes :/ and its just a stock coil I haven't mastered making my own in nickel yet
 

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well i can think of 3 things
1 clean your 510 connection on your xcube
2.try reinstalling or downgrading the re upgrading your software
3. switch yours with your gfs while shes not looking
 

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I like this device but it's trying a little too much. They should have scaled it down a little and not charge people for even more functions.
 

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I dont own the xcube 2 (yet)

but if you are using a kanger subtank, I have had major issues with them in TC period

make sure teh coil/rba deck is as tight as you can get it in the base
make sure the bas eis as tight as you can get it in the mod
make sure the center pin of the base is sitting flush and the oring is not messed up.
if using the rba deck, make sure your screws are good and tight

make sure everything is cooled off
relock the resistance
make sure it is reading the coil right
for a stock kanger
it should read bewteen .14-.16

you should not really fire a Ni coil in power mode, that in itself can mess up the coil and the cotton.
I also had this issue. It reads fine on the Ohmmeter, and fires in watt mode, BUTT, it was because the screws were not tight enough. My RBA had a problem where one screw would not screw all the way in, allowing the wire to work loose. I swapped RBA to one that screws all the way in without wire, and now have no Issues using it TC. It was working loose and touching the casing.

As it was my fiancees RBA I used, I am getting her a replacement (They are only 3-5 £ on slowtech) but we have some new tanks on the way, and the posts are a lot further from the metal, and are real posts, so will be easier for her to use than the subtank anyway, so she doesn't want a replacement, but I am getting her one just in case (I I can use a 0.5MM shorter screw and not buy an RBA at all, that is the other option).
 

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I like this device but it's trying a little too much. They should have scaled it down a little and not charge people for even more functions.
See I COMPLETELY DISAGREE
That is exactly what EVERY OTHER COMPANY IS DOING

Smok is setting themselves apart

Im actually wishing instead of paying $50 for a used 3li I would have spent 60ish on a new xcube 2. SO what if I had to pay 59 cents for Ti and another $1 for SS. I dont have to go buy a whole new mod. Now I do if I want SS TC. And for half the price of a dna200.

Lets say someone finds a 4th TC wire in the next month or 2. The only device on the market that will possibly be able to run it is the dna200 mods

Oh but wait
smok will charge me $1 for a new update......HMMMM stil cheaper then a dna200.

I wish the treebox mini had this update ability. Because then It would be the prefect mod imho.

Yihi and other mod makes have no incentive to update old devices with flash updates to give them new abilities, ONLY TO FIX BUGS. SMok solved that problem to a degree by doing things the way they are doing.

Now they can make a base mod in the future which is simplistic. then you can activate features for an added price if you want them in the future. BRILLIANT idea to me.
 
well i can think of 3 things
1 clean your 510 connection on your xcube
2.try reinstalling or downgrading the re upgrading your software
3. switch yours with your gfs while shes not looking

iv tried reinstalling but no look I will now look at downgrading and give it a good clean and I might try a different with tc to see that helps

and I will try number 3 tonight when she is sleeping haha
 

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I disagree. When it comes time for Smok to release the V3, I think the updates will dry up. They are just like any other company, They are in business to make money. If releasing updates for older products hurts the bottom line, they will cease to do so. Just my 2 cents.
 

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I disagree. When it comes time for Smok to release the V3, I think the updates will dry up. They are just like any other company, They are in business to make money. If releasing updates for older products hurts the bottom line, they will cease to do so. Just my 2 cents.

Yes when they have V3 ready V2 updates will dry up

But did yihi yet bother to add SS to any of their models yet? NO and thaqts becuase they will include that in the new models and you have to buy a whole new mod.
Hell even the newest smok mod will have SS built in.

But in the meantime while waiting for new versions

I would sure as hell rather pay the company $1-5 for new features to be added to my current mod, then have to go buy another new mod.

If Yihi said right now, for only $4.99 you can download this upgrade to your 3LI and add SS TC- I would be one of the first in line to give them $4.99
 

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That was my point, Yihi was releasing updates (for free). I updated both my 3li and 2S. Seems like as soon as they were planning to release a flag ship chip, the updates ceased. This has obviously been in the works for longer than we've known about it. If they release SS TC for the 3Li, 350j, etc before the new chip, who's going to buy it? I wouldn't be completely surprised if an update does get released at some point, but I don't expect before the release of the new chip. Besides I can vape SS on my 3Li without TC, so I'm not overly concerned.
 

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ok
lets play hypotheticl here
yihi offers a ss tc upgrade for say $5
lots of people will buy that
then the new flagship model to replace the 3li has something like escibe, has ss tc built in and maybe even goes higher in watts ( doubtful) plus has a better form factor, available in multiple colors. lets you do ni up to 75 J, and say has bluetooth now.

I think many of the sme people who paid $499 to upgrade the 3li would still EVENTUALLY buy the replacement
 

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well i can think of 3 things
1 clean your 510 connection on your xcube
2.try reinstalling or downgrading the re upgrading your software
3. switch yours with your gfs while shes not looking

LMFAO! At 3 that is. Just remember the 12th Commandment. Thou shalt not get caught. And it would be moraly wrong. But for the sake of science to temporaily assess any differences.... Sometimes forgivness is easier to obtain than permission.


I had a mysterious circuimstance arise with the Xcube. While happily basking in the bliss of TC on SS, and marvelling that through the magic of temp control, I can now use every single microliter of liquid before refilling, a serpent entered the garden..... In mid vape, my eye pleasing and quasi mesmerizing LEDs did a double red flash, and went out. While still inhaling, I began to ponder the possible significance of this, when my musings were interupted by an odd, distantly familiar sensation. BURNING COTTON!!!!!!!!

Haaaaaackkkkk..... As they used to say in the corny old detective novels... "When I regained consciousness" I closely examined the Smok. A quick check of the temp setting showed somthing was amiss! It was in watt mode.

I go back to tc, and stareing crosseyed at the display while vaping, my peripheral vision detected the "Double Flash of Death" hereafted to be referred to as a DFD.

After much fiddeling, it appears that the culprit might have been a very slightly loose screw on the deck, causing the resistance to fluctuate when pouring the watts to it. The Smok deals with this by terminating TC mode with the dreaded DFD.

Kicking into watts mode in mid vape is not cool. ( minor pun intended) If you are out and about, and this should happen to you, a lung saving simple workaround is to select watts mode, and set the watts to 6. That way, if it kicks out of TC and into watts, it will not incinerate your wicks, and leave you coughing and envying the dead.

Smok, you need to change this. If not failsafe, failsoft. And I know I'm asking a lot, but perhaps an entry in the manual emphasizing the negative connotations of red flashing lights.

After some very determined tightening, the DFD has not recurred, but I am ever watchfull of the Dredded Reddies.


 

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LMFAO! At 3 that is. Just remember the 12th Commandment. Thou shalt not get caught. And it would be moraly wrong. But for the sake of science to temporaily assess any differences.... Sometimes forgivness is easier to obtain than permission.


I had a mysterious circuimstance arise with the Xcube. While happily basking in the bliss of TC on SS, and marvelling that through the magic of temp control, I can now use every single microliter of liquid before refilling, a serpent entered the garden..... In mid vape, my eye pleasing and quasi mesmerizing LEDs did a double red flash, and went out. While still inhaling, I began to ponder the possible significance of this, when my musings were interupted by an odd, distantly familiar sensation. BURNING COTTON!!!!!!!!

Haaaaaackkkkk..... As they used to say in the corny old detective novels... "When I regained consciousness" I closely examined the Smok. A quick check of the temp setting showed somthing was amiss! It was in watt mode.

I go back to tc, and stareing crosseyed at the display while vaping, my peripheral vision detected the "Double Flash of Death" hereafted to be referred to as a DFD.

After much fiddeling, it appears that the culprit might have been a very slightly loose screw on the deck, causing the resistance to fluctuate when pouring the watts to it. The Smok deals with this by terminating TC mode with the dreaded DFD.

Kicking into watts mode in mid vape is not cool. ( minor pun intended) If you are out and about, and this should happen to you, a lung saving simple workaround is to select watts mode, and set the watts to 6. That way, if it kicks out of TC and into watts, it will not incinerate your wicks, and leave you coughing and envying the dead.

Smok, you need to change this. If not failsafe, failsoft. And I know I'm asking a lot, but perhaps an entry in the manual emphasizing the negative connotations of red flashing lights.

After some very determined tightening, the DFD has not recurred, but I am ever watchfull of the Dredded Reddies.
see on yihi boards
theres no red light it just says dry coil
and doesnt bother to tell you its a bad ohm reading fluctuation causing teh issue.

So no need to switch to power mode period in my mind
just stop the power flow and stop the vape
 

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hey I using a subtank with tc coils on my x cube 2 and it keeps coming up saying theres a short but if I put it in watt mode it works then works in tc mode for 5 mins then says short again this only started after I updated my mod has anyone else had this or know what to do please
Idk but rip trippers said he had the same problem with it
 

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None of this is new. Same thing as any other hobby. You couldn't update Mech mods, but people still bought them. Still use them.

The problem is we have a crap ton of new options and capabilities every week and companies continue to capitalize pushing out new gear at disposable prices that everyone loves to keep buying. Boo hoo for our first world problems.

In general, if you release a product and sell the fact it's upgradable... Then charge for the upgrade... That's crap. It just is. If you are going to continue to push out upgraded mods with every new capability... Then let's just drop the whole "upgradable" thing.

My guess is there is a segment of the market that will continue to buy the latest greatest no matter what. And a segment of the market that is willing to wait. Been that way for a long time.

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything.
 

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see on yihi boards
theres no red light it just says dry coil
and doesnt bother to tell you its a bad ohm reading fluctuation causing teh issue.
So no need to switch to power mode period in my mind
just stop the power flow and stop the vape


Perhaps my point was not clear. When the X Cube suffers a glitch, it does not stop, it instantly switches from TC to watts in the double-flash blink of an eye, in mid vape.
 

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Is there a big difference Vaping SS in TC versus power mode? I only ask because it seems like a lot of people are enjoying vaping SS in power mode.
 

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Is there a big difference Vaping SS in TC versus power mode? I only ask because it seems like a lot of people are enjoying vaping SS in power mode.
yes
locking temp the vape is more consistent and being able to drain the tank dry without worrying
 

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Perhaps my point was not clear. When the X Cube suffers a glitch, it does not stop, it instantly switches from TC to watts in the double-flash blink of an eye, in mid vape.
no i understood. i was showing how yihi does it, i think maybe we need something in between.
like yihi just stop working, but like smok tells you why it REALLY stopped working
 

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Just bought the x cube II and 50' of 24 gauge SS316l. Seen that smok has the beta updater and 92 firmware update on the site. When it get it, update then purchase Ti and SS? If hope this mod is awesome even if there are some settings that need tinkered with. If know the tcr needs adjusted for SS. Also is 24 awg SS a good gauge?
 

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Hope it didn't make the wrong purchase...
And this mod is shit
 

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I've been getting network anomalies for about a week with the Smok app trying to create an account and now update the xcube to use ti and Stainless steel (why I bought the x Cube). Is this just an issue for me or can anyone else use the app without that error?
 

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Yeah CxC, this'll do. I think C is just finishing with a D2 issue but hopefully we can get updates from him and OneBadWolf about the updates. At least that's what I'm interested in.
I still don't have a device for the app, and I'm not sure what I can accomplish without one. Just the firmware update?

eta: Sorry... just saw your PM now.
No worries, two separate phones same issue. Also noticed at 0.37ohms in watt mode won't push past 6.5v...
 

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Is anyone else getting network anomalies error in smok app or just me?
 

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3 phones same error. When using the link to the user policy it is confirmed down... Wish I could use this mod for the reason I bought it...
 

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@OneBadWolf any help regarding network anomalies error in the app? Can't purchase SS or Ti... :/
 

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Got it figured out, not really knowing if the coefficient is set correctly by default though
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@CurlyxCracker

did you get the updates installed in both the app and on the mod to allow SS TC???

also i saw vaping bogan or whoevers video on this mod
he set the coefficient to 2 or .002 or whatever to get SS to work well in TC
 

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@CurlyxCracker

did you get the updates installed in both the app and on the mod to allow SS TC???

also i saw vaping bogan or whoevers video on this mod
he set the coefficient to 2 or .002 or whatever to get SS to work well in TC

Yes the app started working late last night.
I seen that video too, I remember he set it at a temp that should of scorched the cotton but did not... So idk if 2 is accurate either.
 

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Yes the app started working late last night.
I seen that video too, I remember he set it at a temp that should of scorched the cotton but did not... So idk if 2 is accurate either.

so now that you have the xcube 2, seem to have the app working, any thoughts on this as a TC device, especially with SS
 

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Also, I went a bit crazy last night and put a twisted 24 awg SS dual coil in my clt v3 last night, comes into temp protection so I'm sure it's limiting temperature, just don't know how accurate. Anyway I also noticed in wattage mode I'd set it for 140-160w and the app would read like 165-177w
 

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Also, I went a bit crazy last night and put a twisted 24 awg SS dual coil in my clt v3 last night, comes into temp protection so I'm sure it's limiting temperature, just don't know how accurate. Anyway I also noticed in wattage mode I'd set it for 140-160w and the app would read like 165-177w

well imho
the app is only needed from what I can tell to activate TC upgrades. Sure you can get info from it and change settings, but all of that can be done on the mod. So as long as the app can activate the tc upgrades im happy with that.

BUT maybe the difference in reading has something to do with the hard soft modes. I do not know if the mod uses those for power mode
but if they do and you have it in hard mode, then what the app is saying may make sense. Since you set it for 140-160w and then in hard mode it would boost that, and the app is telling you the actual wattage being fired
 

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