My father is a MTL vape only type of guy, his vape must draw like a cigarette and we have had lots of success with things like
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Someone recalls the latest in fine fashion trends and ...
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The queen of horse trading embellishes with linkage her bold revelry ...
Falls away does the tide of current squonking trends, only to redouble itself when the belle quips ...
Yes, I too would suggest a Narda, or Narda clone and from looking at them on vendor sites Le Concorde would be worth mention.
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ETA: Coffee, hugs, warm smiles all around for everyone. If you happen to catch an extra hug or two, pass them on, say to a complete stranger in the spirit of gratitude and kinship. Try to recall we all hoe a rough going furrow and then, ... GFY. Love, Light and wishes for the best blessings go forth from me and mine. Excuse me anon, need to attend to living. Y'all run 'er slow.
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... it's an awesome way to grow your stable
Interjects the queen of the ambiguous horse trading ...
{Breaking narration: Congrats you lucky old dog and my sympathies are extended to your boss lady.
}Another wayward farm hand pauses from their toils of ensuring horses are shod and reflects ...
{ Breaking narration to interject:
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The one from across the holler looking out through the watch tower para-scope notes ...
The queen of horse trading embellishes with linkage her bold revelry ...
Falls away does the tide of current squonking trends, only to redouble itself when the belle quips ...
Yes, I too would suggest a Narda, or Narda clone and from looking at them on vendor sites Le Concorde would be worth mention.
"And so we make our way onward to re-enter the realm of that other worldly vice known only as off-line. Tune in to The Woes Of Squonk next time when someone says, ..."
ETA: Coffee, hugs, warm smiles all around for everyone. If you happen to catch an extra hug or two, pass them on, say to a complete stranger in the spirit of gratitude and kinship. Try to recall we all hoe a rough going furrow and then, ... GFY. Love, Light and wishes for the best blessings go forth from me and mine. Excuse me anon, need to attend to living. Y'all run 'er slow.
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Don't complain. At least it isn't just heads up for farcebook and reddit lists, which is what this thread has been turning into"We welcome you to another episode of Vaping Underground's own still life moving type soap opera, The Woes Of Squonk. Let us join in now and hear our merry band, ..."
Someone recalls the latest in fine fashion trends and ...
Interjects the queen of the ambiguous horse trading ...
{Breaking narration: Congrats you lucky old dog and my sympathies are extended to your boss lady.
Another wayward farm hand pauses from their toils of ensuring horses are shod and reflects ...
{ Breaking narration to interject: }
The one from across the holler looking out through the watch tower para-scope notes ...
The queen of horse trading embellishes with linkage her bold revelry ...
Falls away does the tide of current squonking trends, only to redouble itself when the belle quips ...
Yes, I too would suggest a Narda, or Narda clone and from looking at them on vendor sites Le Concorde would be worth mention.
"And so we make our way onward to re-enter the realm of that other worldly vice known only as off-line. Tune in to The Woes Of Squonk next time when someone says, ..."
No, no, not a complaint at all merely reading through the thread and attempting a sane response even if only via digest format. Ah, ooops, gee was there an admission of sanity in that?
Well I thought the Origen little would do the trick for ya Andria. That's was the only squonk atty I had that could be dialed down for mtl. And I honestly never even realised that the steamcrave only adjusted in 1w increments. I guess when your used to vaping between 50 to 75w you don't really notice the tenth of a watt..
I'll rummage around my vape station and see if I can come up with another solution.
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You can. It takes practice though. Flooded or dry most often.
Are you okay with clones? Hellfire have single 1mm air holes, there are clones around
Be sure to let us know how it goes.
If that doesn't work out, the best options I see under $15 are:
Strike 18 $6.87
https://www.fasttech.com/p/8178100
Speed Revolution $7.37
https://www.fasttech.com/p/7441200
Speed Revolution Eco $11.41
https://www.fasttech.com/p/7879900
All with a tight single airflow option, all squonkable.
Those are from Fast Tech, so normal disclaimer, don't wait by the mail box, order and forget, it'll come in eventually.
Ahh that used to be normal ohms.
1.8 was the low ohms.
Yep. Think nautilus or atlantis bought out a 1.2ohm coil, and everyone complained that they wouldn't fire on a normal mod
I must be a lesser known wussy then?
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This here, I agree, looks like a list of very popular TIGHT DRAW rda's, specifically among squonkers.
Actually, specifically among european squonkers, who, on average, have more vapers looking for a cig-like draw...
I shifted to more air before any of these became available, but if I were you I'd give one of them a shot!
I did put a carto on my first Reo, while waiting for my atty (Cyclone - another one to try if you find one with the original tiny holes).
Edit - just noticed, that photo's dated 8/2014. I've been squonking for more than 3 years!!
This here, I agree, looks like a list of very popular TIGHT DRAW rda's, specifically among squonkers.
Actually, specifically among european squonkers, who, on average, have more vapers looking for a cig-like draw...
I shifted to more air before any of these became available, but if I were you I'd give one of them a shot!
I did put a carto on my first Reo, while waiting for my atty (Cyclone - another one to try if you find one with the original tiny holes).
Edit - just noticed, that photo's dated 8/2014. I've been squonking for more than 3 years!!
Anyone see this on 3F this morning. A little expensive, especially considering Yiloong’s reputation for quality... but it looks so cool!
http://www.3fvape.com/mechanical-mo...mod-white-pom-8ml-1-x-18650.html#.Wcp9aD0pCaM
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Well I thought the Origen little would do the trick for ya Andria. That's was the only squonk atty I had that could be dialed down for mtl. And I honestly never even realised that the steamcrave only adjusted in 1w increments. I guess when your used to vaping between 50 to 75w you don't really notice the tenth of a watt..
I'll rummage around my vape station and see if I can come up with another solution.
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I dunno yet about the Little; I did finally find the way to adjust it so only one airhole is showing; I slid it around just a smidge more so that not the ENTIRE small hole is showing, though that does show a sliver of the hole next to it. After I eat "breakfast" (brunch really, at this hour, but it's my first meal, so it's breakfast!), I plan to put a coil in the Little and see if i can vape it. I got one of my angled adapters on it last night -- which was tough, but it finally did fit, so I can now use any of my driptips and not have splats of hot ejuice on my lips.
Thx for that! The Concorde and the Narda seem most suitable, since both are RDAs and have the bottom screw that opens the bottom of the chamber, but my question -- and this pertains to the Exo too, as a matter of fact -- can regular driptips be used? I noticed that the FT listing for the Exo said "wide bore driptip" which is a total non-starter, unless a regular driptip can be used instead. The Concorde seems to use a 510, but the Narda, I'm not sure; the one that's shown in the 3F listing looks kinda fat. I've NAY'ed the Narda repeatedly for a long time, but its o-ring closure is less of a problem if I'm squonking instead of dripping, won't need to open it so often -- so the only real concern about it is about the side airflow, which seems quite common with squonk attys. I'm just not sure I'll ever be able to get what I consider "saturated flavor" from a side airflow atty.
Also, the Concorde appears to have 4 posts, so I'm not sure which 2 I should use; given that apparently it's for dual coils, which is something I'll never tolerate, how tight can it really be?
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Agreed, the Cyclone v1 is one to have for MTL as long as it wasn't drilled. I have one and have been looking in the clasifieds for a couple more. I even thought I found them, until I read the seller had drilled them out.
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Clone attys don't bother me a bit -- my 2 original Achilles are both Yeahsmo clones, and are MILES better than the authentic $98 Achilles II I bought. As @shawn.hoefer put it so well... "$100 for a fucking atomizer? You gotta be kidding me!"
I don't think I'll EVER do that again, given how unhappy I am with that Achilles II -- the fucker LEAKS, which the cloned originals NEVER do.But I'm not sure I'm finding the correct "Hellfire" -- the one I see at FT looks like this:
Those sure ain't 1mm holes!!!
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Yeah I may have to bite the bullet and get something from FT, to get something with a really tight draw. Of all those 3, the last, the Eco, seems most attractive, for one reason: the coil-screws are phillips heads, not straight screws nor hex-thingies, both of which I loathe with the utmost passion, being completely uncoordinated -- phillips head screws are made for those of us who have a hard time keeping a straight screwdriver in the slot! (and I dropped the hex-key "L" about 6 times while wrestling last night with the Tobeco Velocity that Cromwell sent!)
Do you know if either of the others, those screws can be replaced with phillips head versions? I've got a bajillion extras around here, if they might fit.
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Hmm... the ones I have, have the hole at the bottom of the 510, plus the itty bitty ones right in the 510 threading. I had thought they might be squonkable since the best way to start a new carto is to fill from the bottom via the "condom method". However it does take a little time to get all the fiber saturated, even with my thin juice, so I'm not sure it would be too workable for squonking. And god know, those are some of the worst dry hits possible -- about the only thing worse than a carto dry hit is a rayon dry hit!
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Think they may of been referring to this one?
in the drop down selector to the right this would be the Strike
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Yes, that one looks very good, for its airflow... it's those straight screws that would SERIOUSLY trouble me, and why I asked if those might be replaceable, with some of the bajillion extra phillips head coil-screws I have around here.
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Though actually, the Strike that was linked was this one, 18mm:
And yeah, I'd probably find that 1mm hole quite vapable. It's those straight screws for the coil that worry me. I can't keep a straight screwdriver in the slot for more than 1 turn, then drop the screwdriver... repeat over and over and over and over and....
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And yeah, I'd probably find that 1mm hole quite vapable. It's those straight screws for the coil that worry me. I can't keep a straight screwdriver in the slot for more than 1 turn, then drop the screwdriver... repeat over and over and over and over and....
Andria
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I beginning to think your a White Mod Supremacist!
I have 2 black mods but they know their place
Got this little beauty in yesterday! It's a double barrel SQRT made by BVB.
This thing is friggin tiny!
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Got this little beauty in yesterday! It's a double barrel SQRT made by BVB.
This thing is friggin tiny!
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Love it
Got this little beauty in yesterday! It's a double barrel SQRT made by BVB.
This thing is friggin tiny!
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Maybe it's regular size and you just have banana hands.
Drip Factory has more Da One bottles in stock
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Ode cologne dispenser?
that has to be in the running for worst mod design ever.
for the same money you can get a Dripbox 160 or DB2....
that has to be in the running for worst mod design ever.
for the same money you can get a Dripbox 160 or DB2....
The Dripez always looked weird to me.
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Ok, I finally got the Origen Little coiled up -- which was no small feat in itself, with those fucking hex thingies, and trying to get 29ga wires thru fucking INVISIBLE holes, without bending the wire... took at least 30 minutes (of screaming, yelling, and foully cursing, plus poking a 29ga wire into my flesh and drawing blood) just to get the wires thru those invisible holes and fastened, and my son and I had to raid my husband's tools to find a hex L that would actually tighten those little fuckers. It's a 1/16th, apparently.
And after all that aggravation... it's really not a tight draw at all. It's definitely an improvement over that Tobeco Velocity, but not a huge improvement; it's still a looser draw than the Lemo with the Lemo's airflow completely closed -- which I can semi-tolerate.
This is as good a pic as I could manage, of the airflow hole(s) as currently set -- it's slightly off-center and showing the edge of the next hole, because when the small hole is fully visible, there's not even an IOTA of resistance in the draw):
here's the full rig:
It's using that long driptip so I could turn it up to 10w or 11w without burning my lips, but even with all that heat, it's really not a satisfying hit, because there's so little resistance in the draw -- it's like trying to smoke an empty straw (which I tried once on one of my pre-vaping attempts at quitting smoking, so I know what feels like).
So I'm back at my super-tight, super-satisfying Achilles. Which apparently is going to be the only vape I will ever truly enjoy, so I hope the titanium is immortal.
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And after all that aggravation... it's really not a tight draw at all. It's definitely an improvement over that Tobeco Velocity, but not a huge improvement; it's still a looser draw than the Lemo with the Lemo's airflow completely closed -- which I can semi-tolerate.
This is as good a pic as I could manage, of the airflow hole(s) as currently set -- it's slightly off-center and showing the edge of the next hole, because when the small hole is fully visible, there's not even an IOTA of resistance in the draw):
here's the full rig:
It's using that long driptip so I could turn it up to 10w or 11w without burning my lips, but even with all that heat, it's really not a satisfying hit, because there's so little resistance in the draw -- it's like trying to smoke an empty straw (which I tried once on one of my pre-vaping attempts at quitting smoking, so I know what feels like).
So I'm back at my super-tight, super-satisfying Achilles. Which apparently is going to be the only vape I will ever truly enjoy, so I hope the titanium is immortal.
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And BTW... I did try to see yesterday if could maybe make one of my Prometey's a squonker... but the 510 screw is so damn tiny, I don't think there's any way of hollowing-out a screw that tiny -- they're about the size of most coil-screws, and have a tiny washer underneath.
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@wickedgene that v3 looks awesome, saw your post on the FB toaster group.
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Andria you could try putting a piece of tape over the air hole then with a needle poke a hole that would suit you.
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Don't think a piece of tape would really fix it; apparently there's some air getting into the thing from other sources than the bitty airhole. I did consider maybe poking a toothpick into the airhole and breaking it off, but I'd need to superglue it to keep it there, because the airhole is fatter than a toothpick... and I'm not sure that inhaling the heated fumes of even dried superglue would be a good thing for my lungs.
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Take a little dab, form your new custom plug, I think you bake it to cure. Should have enough left over for future projects as well.
Hi both the Narda and Concorde use regular 510 drip tips, and of course both can have the screws replaced with Phillips if required.
For MTL I would probably choose the Concorde seeing as it can be closed down really tight so with a narrow top it is pretty much comparable to a cigarette draw.
As for mounting coils it's very simple and possible to mount the coil just above the airhole (and close) for flavour purposes.
Although it states dual coil it's actually much better suited to a single spaced coil using one screw on each side
Le Concorde has been my favourite RDA of 2017 which surprised me as I've never really got on with vaponaute stuff.
The SXK clone is fantastic quality and I could see it lasting years it's such a robust and simple design and imo it's quite a looker too!
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Not sure it's really worth it, that bastard is so damned hard to get a coil into. I seriously contemplated chucking it down the disposall, but we just got that thing unclogged, didn't wanna muck it up again. I've always had trouble with those kinds of posts, where you have to stick 2 wires thru at the same time... but never before met one that also included those motherfucking hex things instead of real screws, or had holes so damned tiny they might as well be fucking invisible. Gimme a Kayfun-style mounting ANY FUCKING DAY OF THE YEAR. I can wrap wire around screws just fine!
It may be I just have to give up on the squonking idea, I dunno. Damned cloud chasers and their motherfucking
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Hi both the Narda and Concorde use regular 510 drip tips, and of course both can have the screws replaced with Phillips if required.
For MTL I would probably choose the Concorde seeing as it can be closed down really tight so with a narrow top it is pretty much comparable to a cigarette draw.
As for mounting coils it's very simple and possible to mount the coil just above the airhole (and close) for flavour purposes.
Although it states dual coil it's actually much better suited to a single spaced coil using one screw on each side
Le Concorde has been my favourite RDA of 2017 which surprised me as I've never really got on with vaponaute stuff.
The SXK clone is fantastic quality and I could see it lasting years it's such a robust and simple design and imo it's quite a looker too!
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Don't know about Le Concorde - but there is not way I can see Andria liking the NarDa - even choked down it would be way overly airy for her tastes
The Origen little on the slightest single air hole was too much...
Agreed.
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Hi both the Narda and Concorde use regular 510 drip tips, and of course both can have the screws replaced with Phillips if required.
For MTL I would probably choose the Concorde seeing as it can be closed down really tight so with a narrow top it is pretty much comparable to a cigarette draw.
As for mounting coils it's very simple and possible to mount the coil just above the airhole (and close) for flavour purposes.
Although it states dual coil it's actually much better suited to a single spaced coil using one screw on each side
Le Concorde has been my favourite RDA of 2017 which surprised me as I've never really got on with vaponaute stuff.
The SXK clone is fantastic quality and I could see it lasting years it's such a robust and simple design and imo it's quite a looker too!
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Ok then... looks like Le Concorde is from 3Fvape.... I realize they're in china too, so the wait time is probably similar to FT's... but 3Fvape is reputable? For less than $10, I could take a gamble.
Someone just PIFed me some MtL driptips which were made by Vaponaute, and I love them! White, made from silicone... really nice!
Thx!
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3FVape has been good to me, and much less time waiting.
I'd second Le Concorde over the NarDa... BUT with any 22mm atty, you're not going to get as much flavor as with a smaller atty if you're going for a real tight draw. But I love the Le Concorde, and it can close right down to super tight.
Also, Hi everyone! It's been a while...
Totally agree!
Welcome....back?
Like I said... it's been a while... a very loooong while. Didn't post so much then, either, as you can see. I'm kinda shy.
I totally forgot I had an ad on here, and just got some messages about it, so I thought I'd come check out what the Squonk Bonkers were doing in here...
I'm ordering one of these, they're cheap enough. If you look at the air ports under the coil, you'll see they're small so it most probably allow a very tight MTL draw. It is a GUS atty! (wanna be)
http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ainless-steel-16mm-diameter.html#.WcrjYciGNEY
http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ainless-steel-16mm-diameter.html#.WcrjYciGNEY
I don't know the Concord.
But I'd look to the atties that were popular when squonking started, but open-air hadn't caught on yet. And you could post a "wanted" notice and maybe find someone that set one of these aside... Here are some I had and liked, but they've moved on:
That above is a Divo and a Cyclone on the left - both recommended.
The right ones are a Reactor (unlikely to find) and an Atomic (bigger holes).
This above is an ERA "Torch" a variation on the "Hornet" both from Budz Worx. Again - stock tiny little single hole.
And Finally - I'm not sure why, but I ordered and have this. The "Little Bang" rda.
One look and I knew it would be WAAAY to tight a draw for me.
Cost me $18.99, now $14.99. New in box, and I'm happy to send it, let you try it, and either send me $15 if you like it or send it back...
That pic is larger than life..air is small and can be adjusted...
But I'd look to the atties that were popular when squonking started, but open-air hadn't caught on yet. And you could post a "wanted" notice and maybe find someone that set one of these aside... Here are some I had and liked, but they've moved on:
That above is a Divo and a Cyclone on the left - both recommended.
The right ones are a Reactor (unlikely to find) and an Atomic (bigger holes).
This above is an ERA "Torch" a variation on the "Hornet" both from Budz Worx. Again - stock tiny little single hole.
And Finally - I'm not sure why, but I ordered and have this. The "Little Bang" rda.
One look and I knew it would be WAAAY to tight a draw for me.
Cost me $18.99, now $14.99. New in box, and I'm happy to send it, let you try it, and either send me $15 if you like it or send it back...
That pic is larger than life..air is small and can be adjusted...
Damn, now I’m consider a Strike 18 or another of those MTL squonk RDAs!
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Not much bang for the buck?I don't know the Concord.
But I'd look to the atties that were popular when squonking started, but open-air hadn't caught on yet. And you could post a "wanted" notice and maybe find someone that set one of these aside... Here are some I had and liked, but they've moved on:
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That above is a Divo and a Cyclone on the left - both recommended.
The right ones are a Reactor (unlikely to find) and an Atomic (bigger holes).
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This above is an ERA "Torch" a variation on the "Hornet" both from Budz Worx. Again - stock tiny little single hole.
And Finally - I'm not sure why, but I ordered and have this. The "Little Bang" rda.
One look and I knew it would be WAAAY to tight a draw for me.
Cost me $18.99, now $14.99. New in box, and I'm happy to send it, let you try it, and either send me $15 if you like it or send it back...
View attachment 92574View attachment 92573View attachment 92575 That pic is larger than life..air is small and can be adjusted...