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I don't know the Concord.
But I'd look to the atties that were popular when squonking started, but open-air hadn't caught on yet. And you could post a "wanted" notice and maybe find someone that set one of these aside... Here are some I had and liked, but they've moved on:



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That above is a Divo and a Cyclone on the left - both recommended.
The right ones are a Reactor (unlikely to find) and an Atomic (bigger holes).


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This above is an ERA "Torch" a variation on the "Hornet" both from Budz Worx. Again - stock tiny little single hole.


And Finally - I'm not sure why, but I ordered and have this. The "Little Bang" rda. :teehee:
One look and I knew it would be WAAAY to tight a draw for me.
Cost me $18.99, now $14.99. New in box, and I'm happy to send it, let you try it, and either send me $15 if you like it or send it back...
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Is that a movable second post in the little bang? Those are handy for getting the coil sized and positioned exactly how you want.

@AndriaD I did come across a super cheap RDA with airflow so tight Busardo said oh hell no. US vendor as well. You could technically, probably, squonkify it, but airflow is in the bottom of the deck which sounds leaky combined with excess juice.

$3 super tight MTL

https://www.myvaporstore.com/SMOKTech-RDA-Rebuildable-Atomizer-p/sm-rda.htm

The good news, no screw driver! The bad news is the holes look dinky.

And I just saw this in the "you may also like" section.

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Youde-UD-IGO-T-Titanium-Rebuildable-Atomizer-p/yd-igot.htm

The air holes look small, but it looks too cavernous fora good mtl coil unfortunately, but I could be wrong.
 
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@wickedgene that v3 looks awesome, saw your post on the FB toaster group.


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Yeah I had just opened the box.
I love my Toasters
Through a build in the Skywalker,
Juice her up and she vapes beautifully. It's basically the same size as a little orca but with rounded edges.
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It might be? Looks like it.
I literally looked at it, and put it back in the little plastic box...I think I got a Gorge or something at the same time - which has got to have 10x as much airflow, lol.
3F doesn't say, but it does look like you can swivel a post.

Is that a movable second post in the little bang? Those are handy for getting the coil sized and positioned exactly how you want..
 

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Yeah I had just opened the box.
I love my Toasters
Through a build in the Skywalker,
Juice her up and she vapes beautifully. It's basically the same size as a little orca but with rounded edges.
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Very nice.The V3 will be my next Toaster,i have a tiny and an SS,now just gotta stop spending so i can save a bit and grab the V3 haha.
 

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3FVape has been good to me, and much less time waiting.
I'd second Le Concorde over the NarDa... BUT with any 22mm atty, you're not going to get as much flavor as with a smaller atty if you're going for a real tight draw. But I love the Le Concorde, and it can close right down to super tight.

That just doesn't make sense. My Achilles are 22mm, have a HUGE chamber... and have the most saturated flavor of any atty, EVER, in the history of vaping -- and a super-tight draw too. I've heard of people who had to stop using their Achilles because the vape is so saturated, they felt like they had ejuice in their mouth -- and I used to have to check my lips, when I first started using it, to see if there was ejuice on them. Never was... just super-saturated flavor. The Prometey is also 22mm, and also delivers that kind of flavor, and super-tight draw... it just has no well.

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I don't know the Concord.
But I'd look to the atties that were popular when squonking started, but open-air hadn't caught on yet. And you could post a "wanted" notice and maybe find someone that set one of these aside... Here are some I had and liked, but they've moved on:



View attachment 92571

That above is a Divo and a Cyclone on the left - both recommended.
The right ones are a Reactor (unlikely to find) and an Atomic (bigger holes).


View attachment 92572
This above is an ERA "Torch" a variation on the "Hornet" both from Budz Worx. Again - stock tiny little single hole.


And Finally - I'm not sure why, but I ordered and have this. The "Little Bang" rda. :teehee:
One look and I knew it would be WAAAY to tight a draw for me.
Cost me $18.99, now $14.99. New in box, and I'm happy to send it, let you try it, and either send me $15 if you like it or send it back...
:D
View attachment 92574View attachment 92573View attachment 92575 That pic is larger than life..air is small and can be adjusted...

That actually looks quite promising! And the way the deck is arranged, plenty of room to work, and screws you could loop the wire around, instead of trying to wrestle with poking the wire thru the fucking posts -- but the size of the screws, would it be easy to find replacements that were phillips instead of straight? I.e., are they the usual size of other coil screws?

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3F is the only place you can get either the Strike 14 or 18! FT and 2F still have the 18 ones.

Yeah, but at FT they cost about 1/3 what they do at 3F. I may go ahead and order that Strike 18 from FT. If all my options are from China, why not, the price is certainly right.

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And here's a weird thing, about that Strike 18 at FT. The top pic, you'll note, has those accursed straight screws -- but look closely at the bottom pic -- those are phillips head screws!

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So it appears to be a toss-up, which kind I would get.

Andria
 

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Is that a movable second post in the little bang? Those are handy for getting the coil sized and positioned exactly how you want.

@AndriaD I did come across a super cheap RDA with airflow so tight Busardo said oh hell no. US vendor as well. You could technically, probably, squonkify it, but airflow is in the bottom of the deck which sounds leaky combined with excess juice.

$3 super tight MTL

https://www.myvaporstore.com/SMOKTech-RDA-Rebuildable-Atomizer-p/sm-rda.htm

The good news, no screw driver! The bad news is the holes look dinky.

And I just saw this in the "you may also like" section.

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Youde-UD-IGO-T-Titanium-Rebuildable-Atomizer-p/yd-igot.htm

The air holes look small, but it looks too cavernous fora good mtl coil unfortunately, but I could be wrong.

Ah, the old Squid! I don't really like the lil tiny ones like that. And those "thumb screws" are actually just as big a pain in the ass as hex things or straight screws, plus, having to put wires thru holes -- really really REALLY hate that. And as much as I love bottom airflow, under the coil, I have to concede, it's not the best idea for a squonk atty.

The Igo-T looks more promising, but again... wires thru posts rather than neatly around screws. I just hate that, I end up injuring myself and having to think up all new cuss words, the words I know already are just insufficient for the amount of aggravation.

That Little Bang looks the most promising, along with the Le Concorde and the Strike 18.

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Andria, pretty much NO side air atty will suit you. They require more air to work properly.

That's kinda what I've been afraid of, and why I'm afraid I may just have to give up on the entire squonk idea.

Andria

ETA: That Strike 18 is only $6.87, at FT. I'm thinking I might take that gamble, just to see. It seems to be the lowest cost and visually, most promising, of all the suggestions so far.
 
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I have just determined a) it actually IS possible to squonk into a carto, and b) it's insanely easy to over-squonk it and end up with juice running down everywhere. :giggle: But with further experimenting, I've determined that you can actually tell when you're about to make a mess, you can see a hint of juice rise up around the base of the carto... at which point, you take a hit, which gurgles a bit in time-honored carto fashion (the way it feels when you've overjuiced your carto and there's juice on top of the 510 pin), but the next hit isn't bad at all.

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That's kinda what I've been afraid of, and why I'm afraid I may just have to give up on the entire squonk idea.

Andria

ETA: That Strike 18 is only $6.87, at FT. I'm thinking I might take that gamble, just to see. It seems to be the lowest cost and visually, most promising, of all the suggestions so far.

I haven't kept up with all the discussion so forgive me if it was mentioned already...only remember a few things which you mentioned, and I don't have ANY experience with MTL setups...

Was the Speed Revolution 14 brought up? It has Tiny AF holes, squonk, phillips screws...but side AF :|
 

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I have just determined a) it actually IS possible to squonk into a carto, and b) it's insanely easy to over-squonk it and end up with juice running down everywhere. :giggle: But with further experimenting, I've determined that you can actually tell when you're about to make a mess, you can see a hint of juice rise up around the base of the carto... at which point, you take a hit, which gurgles a bit in time-honored carto fashion (the way it feels when you've overjuiced your carto and there's juice on top of the 510 pin), but the next hit isn't bad at all.

Andria
I should have sent you a bridegeless atomizer.
Only problem is that most squonk mods do not provide 510 or side air...
 

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I should have sent you a bridegeless atomizer.
Only problem is that most squonk mods do not provide 510 or side air...

Are those like those 510 disposable dripping atomizers? That use steel mesh instead of a coil/wick? If so, I tried them when I first started, and hated them -- all I could taste was scorched metal.

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I haven't kept up with all the discussion so forgive me if it was mentioned already...only remember a few things which you mentioned, and I don't have ANY experience with MTL setups...

Was the Speed Revolution 14 brought up? It has Tiny AF holes, squonk, phillips screws...but side AF :|

Yes, but I think the 18mm version would get my vote, before the 14mm; I just don't care for the tiny drippers, not enough room to work. One of my very first RDAs was an Igo-S -- which at least was proof of concept that a MtL vaper could use an RDA, but I didn't find it very enjoyable, just too damn little.

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Are those like those 510 disposable dripping atomizers? That use steel mesh instead of a coil/wick? If so, I tried them when I first started, and hated them -- all I could taste was scorched metal.

Andria
Yeah that is it called a cisco bridgeless?
I got a few on sale to try juice with but decided to get a cheap RDA real quick for the purpose.
 

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Enjoy!

heck I saw some that you could order custom printing on them.
Logos, your name, etc.
 

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I'm still wondering if anything could be done to squonkify a Magma. I looked, and it's got this insulator doohickey at the bottom of its well, right where the 510 screw is, where a squonk pin should enter. I wonder if there are any "perforated" insulators of that type, so a squonk pin could be used? I really like the flavor from that atty, and since I modified mine, even the draw is pretty nice; it really would be great if I could somehow modify it for squonking. I can't use them as they are, regular RDAs, because a) they leak if you fill the well AT ALL, and b) they have to be kept almost completely vertical, or they don't just leak, they POUR.

I looked at the Fat Daddy site, but all I saw was a lot of really technical parts and bits, of which I don't have the least understanding, and I don't really know how to look for what I'm talking about, so googling it wouldn't be very possible, not knowing how to search for what i want.

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I'm still wondering if anything could be done to squonkify a Magma. I looked, and it's got this insulator doohickey at the bottom of its well, right where the 510 screw is, where a squonk pin should enter. I wonder if there are any "perforated" insulators of that type, so a squonk pin could be used? I really like the flavor from that atty, and since I modified mine, even the draw is pretty nice; it really would be great if I could somehow modify it for squonking. I can't use them as they are, regular RDAs, because a) they leak if you fill the well AT ALL, and b) they have to be kept almost completely vertical, or they don't just leak, they POUR.

I looked at the Fat Daddy site, but all I saw was a lot of really technical parts and bits, of which I don't have the least understanding, and I don't really know how to look for what I'm talking about, so googling it wouldn't be very possible, not knowing how to search for what i want.

Andria

They are down a ways on the page - find out if the Magma pin is 2.5 or 3.5

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"We welcome you to another episode of Vaping Underground's own still life moving type soap opera, The Woes Of Squonk. Let us join in now and hear our merry band, ..."



Someone recalls the latest in fine fashion trends and ...





Interjects the queen of the ambiguous horse trading ...



{Breaking narration: Congrats you lucky old dog and my sympathies are extended to your boss lady. :) :giggle:}

Another wayward farm hand pauses from their toils of ensuring horses are shod and reflects ...





{ Breaking narration to interject: }



The one from across the holler looking out through the watch tower para-scope notes ...



The queen of horse trading embellishes with linkage her bold revelry ...







Falls away does the tide of current squonking trends, only to redouble itself when the belle quips ...





Yes, I too would suggest a Narda, or Narda clone and from looking at them on vendor sites Le Concorde would be worth mention.

"And so we make our way onward to re-enter the realm of that other worldly vice known only as off-line. Tune in to The Woes Of Squonk next time when someone says, ..."

ETA: Coffee, hugs, warm smiles all around for everyone. If you happen to catch an extra hug or two, pass them on, say to a complete stranger in the spirit of gratitude and kinship. Try to recall we all hoe a rough going furrow and then, ... GFY. Love, Light and wishes for the best blessings go forth from me and mine. Excuse me anon, need to attend to living. Y'all run 'er slow. :)
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They are down a ways on the page - find out if the Magma pin is 2.5 or 3.5

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@AndriaD
I believe the velocity mini squonk pin is 3mm so if it is too fat is will be a 2.5mm pin.

Well, ok.. but that doesn't solve the problem of the big fat insulator thing, I guess it's delrin? It's white, anyway... right between the 2 posts, at the bottom of the well in the Magma -- the screw probably holds that in place, but doesn't protrude all the way thru it. So there would also need to be a custom insulator block to put there, to keep it all together.

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Well, ok.. but that doesn't solve the problem of the big fat insulator thing, I guess it's delrin? It's white, anyway... right between the 2 posts, at the bottom of the well in the Magma -- the screw probably holds that in place, but doesn't protrude all the way thru it. So there would also need to be a custom insulator block to put there, to keep it all together.

Andria

Drill a hole through it
 

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Fastech often lists a new item with pictures stolen from the authentic. Then they replace those pics when they actually have the item in stock... So you might be seeing one of each - authentic and clone? Just guessing.

On the "Little Bang" screws - I have no idea!
My guess is that they're probably fairly replaceable...but I can't tell you what they are.
I only know the screw type/size on one or two rda's where I've lost one and had to ask people so I could get more...
It does come with a couple extras.


And here's a weird thing, about that Strike 18 at FT. The top pic, you'll note, has those accursed straight screws -- but look closely at the bottom pic -- those are phillips head screws!

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So it appears to be a toss-up, which kind I would get.

Andria
 

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Drill a hole through it

Hmm. I'd have to turn my mechanically-inclined (and fond of power tools) mate loose on that, see if he could make it so. But then the squonk pin would need to be long enough to go all the way thru it, and it's kinda thick. Lemme see if I can round up a pic...

Ok, here we go -- this is a fair pic of it --

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This is actually a pic of one of mine, with the blunt-needle mods in the airholes, and also shows that insulator block:
mymagma-closeup.jpg

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Hmm. I'd have to turn my mechanically-inclined (and fond of power tools) mate loose on that, see if he could make it so. But then the squonk pin would need to be long enough to go all the way thru it, and it's kinda thick. Lemme see if I can round up a pic...

Ok, here we go -- this is a fair pic of it --

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This is actually a pic of one of mine, with the blunt-needle mods in the airholes, and also shows that insulator block:
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Andria

Looks like it could be done - the FD pins are very long - I've had to grind them down every time I've squonkified an RDA
 

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@AndriaD I just checked on a clone Magma RDA that I have.The Fatdaddy M3 squonk pins will work with slight modification.They are the right size and length,but you would need to grind the head down to fit in the insulator in the 510 threads.You should just have to drill a hole through the delrin block in the juice well then and it should squonk fine.
 

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@AndriaD I just checked on a clone Magma RDA that I have.The Fatdaddy M3 squonk pins will work with slight modification.They are the right size and length,but you would need to grind the head down to fit in the insulator in the 510 threads.You should just have to drill a hole through the delrin block in the juice well then and it should squonk fine.

Ok.. is this what you mean?

http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Squonk-Parts/RDA-Squonk-Conversion-M3-Screw-Pack-of-3

I couldn't find anything like that on the fatdaddy site -- and there isn't even a search feature on that site!

Any idea of the size hole that would need to be drilled in that insulator? What size drillbit?

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I couldn't find anything like that on the fatdaddy site -- and there isn't even a search feature on that site!
There is a search function in your browser, it's all in one looking page. Let the page load then use the browser search to look for

BF RDA

Should take you right to it.
 

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Ok.. is this what you mean?

http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Squonk-Parts/RDA-Squonk-Conversion-M3-Screw-Pack-of-3

I couldn't find anything like that on the fatdaddy site -- and there isn't even a search feature on that site!

Any idea of the size hole that would need to be drilled in that insulator? What size drillbit?

Andria
Those would work,but ModMaker is in Great Britain and charges a flat rate of about $13 for international shipping.Fatdaddy has them,just scroll down the site till you see the listing,then select the ones you want from the drop down menu.As for drilling that block,you would just need to drill it the same size as the hole in the 510 pin.I don't know what size bit,as all the ones I have that small aren't marked for size.
 

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There is a search function in your browser, it's all in one looking page. Let the page load then use the browser search to look for

BF RDA

Should take you right to it.

Ctrl+F in the search box near bottom of page "M3" without quotes. That put me right on the picture like in @markcfh 's post. $4-5 for a 3 pack of good quality capillary screws shipped from here in CONUS (CONtental United States) is not too terrible of a price, in fact that reminds me, need to a few packs of these in my next shopping binge. I'm sure Dennis will appreciate that. :) Wonder if we can get him to carry Coppervape repair kits, one that might even include the damnable elusive bottle to 510 connecter nut. Yes, yes, I know, nuts ... ha ha tee hee, ta ho, ...
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Looks like it could be done - the FD pins are very long - I've had to grind them down every time I've squonkified an RDA
The FT pins are shorter.
Some attys need the FDV pin and some work best with the FT pins. I think I may be out of the FDV pins right now...
 

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