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To Date which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for & why?
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My personal opinion is Trump will loose. I am a firm believer in voter fraud and I know that in order for it to work, the numbers have to be close, you can't steal an election when there is a landslide victory. IMO, the recent allegations against trump will be enough to close the gap and allow Clinton to worm her way in there.
I'm just happy the October surprise was not something more sinister involving violence.
Also, I'll add that I am no fan of trump or Clinton but I'd rather have a sleazy business man in office than a drug cartel, drone strike happy, wet worker.
I'm just happy the October surprise was not something more sinister involving violence.
Also, I'll add that I am no fan of trump or Clinton but I'd rather have a sleazy business man in office than a drug cartel, drone strike happy, wet worker.
I dont think he will pull it out either there is too many forces against him its all in the bag for her . Get ready for ww3. I hope against hope people will wake up .
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You could call it the Romney problem. People would not even vote because he is mormon. He could have won and today the USA world be different. This is my opinion. The same is happening now. Democrats don't work like that. They vote regardless of what they think. They want to win and they don't change their beliefs easily.
You have to see the forest for the trees. Too many trees out there.
You have to see the forest for the trees. Too many trees out there.
No, people ARE blind. They CHOOSE to be stupid. It's easy. it takes a little more work to reason through the topics and make a wise deduction. It's not caused by lacked of education.
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its not only that people are blind... but when they are only told half the story..you cant put all the blame on someone if they were not given the information.
---- and no one has even asked the question of why wouldn't one of these women SUE the billionaire for sexual harassment in a climate where that is a cardinal sin?
the poor guy didn't have a chance.
Yes he can. Just depends on how much the sheep really believe what the glowing box says. Or isn't saying...
Is anybody surprised Trump has a sordid past..... they've been talking about it on TV and Print since the 70's...
The only surprise is its been ignored for the last 2 years. For some reason... at least till now.
Also depends on the accuracy of the polling algorithms. Which I question as they are based on a typical election and conventional politics. Political science has been wrong about Trump since day 1..... are they sampling from the correct groups. Or just the typical political demographic lines.
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I was wondering when the media was going to go completely beserk and use the nuclear option against Trump. The blade they are using is double edged, cuts both ways. In their zeal to utterly destroy Trump, they have inflicted some really serious wounds on themselves. There is no pretense of unbiased news reporting at this point, the Media and the those it serves have shown their hand. At this point they are willing to do anything to destroy Trump. Belief in the media's truthfulness and accurate reporting is at a record low level at the moment.its not only that people are blind... but when they are only told half the story..you cant put all the blame on someone if they were not given the information.
---- and no one has even asked the question of why wouldn't one of these women SUE the billionaire for sexual harassment in a climate where that is a cardinal sin?
the poor guy didn't have a chance.
I really wish there was a relatively good third option.
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here is where i have successfully pissed off almost everyone I have spoken my mind too.
in the end, its the same result so it doesn't matter when you think about it; but, I'm honestly shocked that it took them this long to really go after him like this.
i guess when you think about, its the only real play. They tried the racism card, so now its time for the next evil - sexism. i guess him being 70 they can scream ageism.
it is sad though, when knowing Bill's history (hers as well) that they are actually doing this. NBC and CBS - or one of the other alphabet news stations- hasn't uttered a word about wiki leaks at all. but its wall to wall horny Donald.
again, the end game in my mind is the same no matter what, but watching our news media mimic that of North Korea is quite a depressing reality check.
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The same way Obama won...there is a huge huge part of the population who dont bother their silly little heads about elections until a month before they vote they stick their nose out the door turn on the tube see which way the media wind is blowing and then they vote.They are not citizens they are fat slaves....if I had the money Id leave the country.
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yeah I heard a statistic I dont know how accurte it was but it put distrust in the media at over 90%....and now Obama wants to censor the internet....he thinks freedom is too...as he put it..wild west......the goverment he now want to label what is and is not relieable information......and of course the goverment will decide what is and is not reliable...fuck it I did what I could to make sure Hilary wasnt elected.the truly chilling part is that the rank and file democrats knows, they know the bitch is a murderer, they know she is a war pig and criminal, they know she is owned by the richest people on the planet, they know Trump spent his own money to run his election, they know she was financed by international terrorists.they know she covered up and bullied rape victims, they know she destoyed the foundation of free elections, the know shw supported the jailing and beatings of political enemies....and yet they voted for it .....they abandoned the idea of the republic they have chosen to follow a monster who will they believe give them a fat painless ride to their graves fuck their own childerens lives...... it is their karma. and when she starts the next war the same useless fucks will say they voted for Johnson of Stien......or how dissapointed they are with Hilary,just like they did voting for Obama....twice.
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because a full time college student, who works a full time job has the excess time and energy to look past the evening news. Not to mention the evening news is NOT AIRING ANYTHING.The same way Obama won...there is a huge huge part of the population who dont bother their silly little heads about elections until a month before they vote they stick their nose out the door turn on the tube see which way the media wind is blowing and then they vote.They are not citizens they are fat slaves....if I had the money Id leave the country
Most people for that matter, are going to do the same- watch the evening news, maybe check a local paper/news website.
if you expect from other people what you expect from yourself than you will always be disappointed.
besides... the outsider you have been raving and wanting got the nomination- what else did you want?
no matter what anyone else does or says the media was going to roast him. the media has one goal.
which is exactly why it has been said -> it doesn't matter, nothing will change.<-
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I cut 20 year old kids some slack I blame their idiot parents for not educating them to turn off the evening news because its owned by corporations and banks and to direct them to the internet to find their news.....to set an example to them that their role as citizens demand they actually inform themselves life long,, the truly educated never graduate........after the age of 27 if your still watching the shit on TV you have no excuse, you should have developed some sources of information or where to look for information...It was really explicit that the guys who wrote the Consitution said the preservation of the republic is not up to the goverment,not up to the press,but it was in the hands of the citizens....alot of the people who helped start the republic did at the price of losing all their wealth, because of the time the spent making it happen, other lost their lives to make it a reality, I think asking people in a time of peace to educate themselves is not a sacrfice.
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that is my point right there ...
after the age of 20 some work 70-80 hours a week either because they need the money -or- some are lucky enough to love their job. - in my case the latter-
with a 6 figure income, an 85 hour work week, and responsibilities in day to day life, I was too busy living my life and enjoying the spare time i had. Not that i owe you, nor, anyone any explanation for why i may, or may not do certain things. Hell, I don't owe anyone any explanation, least of all you by the way.
but i will offer you some general, life advice that you are probably to old or feel to superior to listen to or take seriously.
trying to get someone to see your point of view goes a lot smoother without you offering the attitude and being a sheer asshole.
despite what you or anyone else in this thread may think of me, and you all have gone far and above the level of asshole here telling me exactly how much of an asshole you all think i am- which i take as a point of pride.
i'll clue you in -i was purposely making the point that you and the other people ej calls "narcis" are exactly that.
in addition to a formal education - i went to extended lengths as a young adult to learn more about government, the founders of this nation, their intent when they declared independence; and, the tyranny they were trying to break free from. Including that Alexander Hamilton had the US at a 30% debt to gdp ratio when we won the war of independence. Hell, I even spent time learning about the documents they sought inspiration from( IE mayflower compact.) And the anthropological state at which they were living.
as to sources... yes, i watch the news and read the local newspapers website. There was once a day when people had only ONE SOURCE the government will do what they want. we can all thank Woodrow Wilson for starting us down this current road.(one reason I have not and can not vote democrat)
One thing about history, is that the winner writes the history.
now, go ahead and respond with your typical "fuck you" "you're a stupid fuck" and "burn in hell you dumb lazy piece of shit"
because that is the most effective thing i have ever seen written
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where to start.....you dont bother to educate yourself about the election till the first debate by your own admission....you chose what is important to you..,,,dont be a total bitch and whine about your decesions....
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yup... just following through with exactly what i said.
all you are doing is proving my point, exactly..
and now you, like the other two die hard koolaid drinkers are going on ignore.
which sucks because up until this thread, that was a feature I've not used.
i used to respect you, and, consider you a friend.
Lets be honest...it sure the fuck does matter...one of them is itching to get us into a war.Even Jill Stien the candidate for the Green Party who despises Trump has said that a vote for Hilary is a vote for war.
It matters because one of those is an evil clown... the other is just a clown.
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Lol,
Definition
A disorder in which a person has an inflated sense of self-importance.
If that was directed at me, fuck you. You don't know me
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Lol,
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If that was directed at me, fuck you. You don't know me
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Nah dude, you obviously don't have any idea!!
But you know what!!
FUCK YOU 2!
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I wonder who she's gonna vote for?
She should've wrote
Trump can suck my fat
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So, Id like to hear what people think.....lets take our humble thread as a cross section of your averge american voter base.....We all kinda know that alot of people here who say they are voting third party are...lying..they are voting for hilary come on the thread write screeds about what a joke Trumps is and then say they are voting for Johnson or not voting at all...its pretty transparent they are hilary voters in hiding....But to the bigger issue..why is it Hilary voters are not coming on this thread and posting why they are voting for hilary,why arent they making the case for why they are voting for (thanks to the wikileaks dumps) someone who has been exposed as one of the most corrupt and evil humans to run for the office of the president and how they can bring themselves to vote for someone who has essintially conspired with the mainstream media to turn it into one giant propoganda mill for the globlaists.Why are all the Hilary supporters in hiding....
People voting for Hillary dont like facts . They cant talk about why they support her because deep down they know she is criminal. People voting for Trump will speak about why they will speak about his faults or things they dont like about him .Hillary suporters are cult like blind followers . My sister is one of them . I asked her what is the most inportant thing she is voting for Hillary for ? She said global warming ! Not taxes ,not supreme court ,not issis ,not ww3 with Russia.....the fuckin weather...this from a college educated 58 year old woman whos husband makes over 5 million a year . How do you even get thru to that kind of stupid ?
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DUH!!
Why would they?!
You all a bunch of grumpy motherfuckers, that will bully others to make your NARCISSISTIC Comments across!!!
It doesn't really matter!!
It was written from day 1
8 more years! If you don't like it, get the fuck out !! Or move in with papa trump!!!
Good morning assholes
It's football
SUNDAY!!!
please don't say anything negative about the NFL!!
Take ur Meds NARCIS!!
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Why would they?!
You all a bunch of grumpy motherfuckers, that will bully others to make your NARCISSISTIC Comments across!!!
It doesn't really matter!!
It was written from day 1
8 more years! If you don't like it, get the fuck out !! Or move in with papa trump!!!
Good morning assholes
It's football
SUNDAY!!!please don't say anything negative about the NFL!!
Take ur Meds NARCIS!!
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They would ej if they belived it was important. Thats the problem you bring up a fact about her that can't be defended your called a bully or worse . You want 8 more years of a shit economy ? 8 more years of unemployment. More people on welfare ,more debt , more terror ,more racial division,more dead cops ? You want more saliors held by Iran ,you want war with Russia ? More selling of favors . They already gave the internet away ! Soon you may be silenced for your hilarious posts ! Come on ej your not stupid you dont want that !
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Guessing most couldn't be bothered because if their opinion differs from you and time they are in both of your opinions idiots or retarded or stupid or a waste of air.
Why bother posting anything that's not pro trump in this trump thread?
Just let the trump fanbois pat each other on the back for being political geniuses and hope they stay in this cesspool of a thread.
Why bother posting anything that's not pro trump in this trump thread?
Just let the trump fanbois pat each other on the back for being political geniuses and hope they stay in this cesspool of a thread.
I dont think thats true .its calked a discussion people with different views talking about it . If you present facts that cant be answered thats being a bully ? I openly discuss Trumps faults ,and agree on somethings being indefensible. So if @Time has an opinion hes a bully ? Then ignore him and state your case . Present your facts defend your position . So your bullied by faceless peoples words on the internet ? Thats all it takes to silence your right to express your thoughts ?
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Did I say bullied? I personally don't give a rats ass what their opinion of me is. They can say what they want.
The question was, why don't clinton supporters post in this thread?
My guess (because there will not be any factual answer to the question unless there is a way to ask all VU members that question) is that a majority of VU members don't want to be called an idiot or retarded or stupid as they have seen on just about every page in this thread.
And I don't support hillary, the question was asked and I gave my thought as to why.
The question was, why don't clinton supporters post in this thread?
My guess (because there will not be any factual answer to the question unless there is a way to ask all VU members that question) is that a majority of VU members don't want to be called an idiot or retarded or stupid as they have seen on just about every page in this thread.
And I don't support hillary, the question was asked and I gave my thought as to why.
And I'm not talking about all VU members in this thread, really just the fucktastic 2 at this point. But even if a majority in this thread can have a constructive conversation, rest assured the fucktastic 2 will be back in a minute to throw degrading names at the ones who's opinion differs from theirs.
They have taken away from this thread, maybe good debates could be had and opinions shared by many more VU members but this thread is probably one of the most viewed without participation fom the viewer. Kind of like watching a trainwreck but glad you weren't in the train.
They have taken away from this thread, maybe good debates could be had and opinions shared by many more VU members but this thread is probably one of the most viewed without participation fom the viewer. Kind of like watching a trainwreck but glad you weren't in the train.
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You implied bulling by saying they will be called names.
Thanks for the clarification of your answer
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