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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Tpat591

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I think it's too coincidental. Last time, under Obomba, just as Syria began winning against the rebels(terrorists), chemical weapons show up. Why the fuck would you wait 3 years while you were losing to use chemical weapons but start using them when you are clearly winning? It's fucking stupid. You use WMD's if you are getting your ass handed to you. It was a false flag then. They wanted an excuse to halt Assad's progress.

This time, one week after the Trump admin announced the end of "Assad must go", poof, chemical weapons again. While Assad is kicking ass and gaining ground.

When ever the Rebels need direct help against Assad because he is about to win, chemical weapons show up. It makes no sense for Assad to use them when he is winning without them but it makes perfect sense for the Terrorist who are losing to use them to get the US to help them.

Actually meant you take on what trump was thinking. Was he threatened? Did he realize that the economy would fail & could only be rest by war? Is he fighting the China Russia gold stars implementation? Is he signaling surrender to the Neocons? Is he pretending to signal surrender in order to survive long enough to strike back at them!


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HondaDavidson

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Just remember the AID part of medicaid. MedicAID is low income, thus AID.

Medicare is paid for by the individual like SS, over time through employment.
Medicare is paid INTO by the individual.. It is paid FOR by the taxpayer. The Dollars come from the same pockets.

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Time

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Actually meant you take on what trump was thinking. Was he threatened? Did he realize that the economy would fail & could only be rest by war? Is he fighting the China Russia gold stars implementation? Is he signaling surrender to the Neocons? Is he pretending to signal surrender in order to survive long enough to strike back at them!


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No, Trump has been fooled.

He's like the kids in movies that suddenly find themselves accepted by the "cool kids". The "cool kids" have his ear. He's part of them now. He forgot what the regular people he used to hang with(politically speaking), and himself, used to think about these things.

He's removed the influences that got him elected for deep state influence, not through threat(he likes a fight), but through whispers in his ear.

He's got some Wormtongues. Not threats.

 

HondaDavidson

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There is a stark difference between "legal" and "right". We see this also in the Unmasking of Americans in surveilance.
It's the "right" part that trips everyone up. The fact is... it is within his rights... wrong vs right is a political question.. yet to be determined. The political answer might affect the legal one.

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HazyShades

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No, Trump has been fooled.

He's like the kids in movies that suddenly find themselves accepted by the "cool kids". The "cool kids" have his ear. He's part of them now. He forgot what the regular people he used to hang with(politically speaking), and himself, used to think about these things.

He's removed the influences that got him elected for deep state influence, not through threat(he likes a fight), but through whispers in his ear.

He's got some Wormtongues. Not threats.

I so agree with you on that...the other thing is as I pointed to last night, pressure from his cutie pie daughter
and her Zionist hubby...Why do you think he chucked Bannon?
 

Time

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It's the "right" part that trips everyone up. The fact is... it is within his rights... wrong vs right is a political question.. yet to be determined. The political answer might affect the legal one.

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I didn't say anything about "rights". Rights are different from right.

The "right" I am talking about is number one below.

The "rights" you are talking about is number two.

right
rīt/
noun
plural noun: rights
  1. 1.
    that which is morally correct, just, or honorable.
    "she doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong"
    synonyms: goodness, righteousness, virtue, integrity, rectitude, propriety, morality, truth, honesty, honor, justice, fairness, equity; More
    lawfulness, legality
    "the difference between right and wrong"
    antonyms: wrong
  2. 2.
    a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.
    "she had every right to be angry"
    synonyms: entitlement, prerogative, privilege, advantage, due, birthright, liberty, authority, power, license, permission, dispensation, leave, sanction, freedom;
    historicaldroit
    "you have the right to say no"
Having a "right" does not make you "right". Trump is a peice of shit because he is not right not because he has a right.;)
 

HazyShades

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I didn't say anything about "rights". Rights are different from right.

The "right" I am talking about is number one below.

The "rights" you are talking about is number two.

right
rīt/
noun
plural noun: rights
  1. 1.
    that which is morally correct, just, or honorable.
    "she doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong"
    synonyms: goodness, righteousness, virtue, integrity, rectitude, propriety, morality, truth, honesty, honor, justice, fairness, equity; More
    lawfulness, legality
    "the difference between right and wrong"
    antonyms: wrong
  2. 2.
    a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.
    "she had every right to be angry"
    synonyms: entitlement, prerogative, privilege, advantage, due, birthright, liberty, authority, power, license, permission, dispensation, leave, sanction, freedom;
    historicaldroit
    "you have the right to say no"
Perhaps "ethical" is the preferable term.
eth·ics
ˈeTHiks/
noun
plural noun: ethics; noun: ethics
  1. 1.
    moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.
    "medical ethics also enter into the question"
    synonyms: moral code, morals, morality, values, rights and wrongs, principles, ideals, standards (of behavior), value system, virtues, dictates of conscience
    "your so-called newspaper is clearly not burdened by a sense of ethics"
    • the moral correctness of specified conduct.
      "many scientists question the ethics of cruel experiments"
  2. 2.
    the branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles.
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HondaDavidson

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I didn't say anything about "rights". Rights are different from right.

The "right" I am talking about is number one below.

The "rights" you are talking about is number two.

right
rīt/
noun
plural noun: rights
  1. 1.
    that which is morally correct, just, or honorable.
    "she doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong"
    synonyms: goodness, righteousness, virtue, integrity, rectitude, propriety, morality, truth, honesty, honor, justice, fairness, equity; More
    lawfulness, legality
    "the difference between right and wrong"
    antonyms: wrong
  2. 2.
    a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.
    "she had every right to be angry"
    synonyms: entitlement, prerogative, privilege, advantage, due, birthright, liberty, authority, power, license, permission, dispensation, leave, sanction, freedom;
    historicaldroit
    "you have the right to say no"
Having a "right" does not make you "right". Trump is a peice of shit because he is not right not because he has a right.;)
I know.....
your "right" is a matter of opinion. The rightness and wrongness being variable by the individual.....

And I did diferenciate between the definitions.

I also never said if the act was right or wrong...IDK... I wasn't there.... just that it was a rightful act. Even if it turns out to be the wrong act.

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Time

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I know.....
your "right" is a matter of opinion. The rightness and wrongness being variable by the individual.....

And I did diferenciate between the definitions.

I also never said if the act was right or wrong...IDK... I wasn't there.... just that it was a rightful act. Even if it turns out to be the wrong act.

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We'll find out in 2020. The posts I've read, in every pro Trump website are mostly "Fuck Trump".

He failed. He's done. Like Romney and McStain he'll only get die hard Republitards to vote for him now. He turned on his base.
 

HondaDavidson

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We'll find out in 2020. The posts I've read, in every pro Trump website are mostly "Fuck Trump".

He failed. He's done. Like Romney and McStain he'll only get die hard Republitards to vote for him now. He turned on his base.
Yep... I'm seeing the same thing... You didn't think Trump won because people support him did you......

Trump won because he is NOT Hillary or a GOP politician.


Yes, Trump lied.... he did warn the target afterall.... notice how empty that base is..... if the video that Russia released is true... that base was nearly abandoned before the missiles hit...... Somebody warned them...... also all the missles got through the wonderful Russian defence in place. Somebody turned that system off......

So there's your collusion..... I still think the election thing was a US opperation. Including the wiki links dump. Hillary would have served Russian purposes better than Trump ever will.



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Arthur

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New York libs are having a anti bombardment rally tonight ... I guess they are for leaders using chemical weapons on their people ?


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HondaDavidson

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We don't have any of those in service anymore.. I thought....

But a16 gun salute would be cool to see... got the feel one of those go off.... when my brother was on the Missouri. Got to do a cruise to Hawai, with him.. before they left for Gulf War. That was scary from the opposite end of the boat. Imagine being at the receiving end with HE Volkswagens falling on your head.

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georgemeadal

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America first my ass. Trump is a liar and a fat mouth.
Trump is saving America. You (nor I) have no idea what it takes to run this shit show of foreign policy he has been left by our last 4 presidents. Just because you might not support him (no matter what) doesn't change a thing.
Trump has already done everything that I voted for him for (Gorsuch) and anything else for the next almost 4 years is a bonus.

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ej1024

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Yeah yeah...... they've been saying that for over 70 years......

I figure Trump just bought us another 5 to 10. Before the mushrooms start growing. Not accounting for idiots like Iran and PRK.

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ITS THE TRUMP SHOW... lol!


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georgemeadal

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LAME


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That's why I don't like to get into political discussions that often. It always comes to people taking my views personally and then calling me names.
No harm done ej, I don't think less of people with different views than mine.
 

Synphul

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Curious to see all those in some sort of favor of Trump suddenly showing such love for Assad. Unlike obummer he kept true to his word. No drawing of meaningless red lines, took action that puts several things in motion. Shows China (and N Korea) he's not afraid to light shit up. That he's tactical and didn't just haphazardly drop ordinance, which shows restraint and not knee jerk emotion. With little to no warning, as he suggested he wouldn't broadcast every move he makes.

The move to warn Russia was diplomatic, avoids direct conflict with a country who we really have no beef with and put Russia on the spot. If they were truly behind Assad as they claim why not move more Russian troops to the location thereby forcing the US to attack Russia? Instead they cleared out, so much for standing with Syria.

Rand Paul is a complete dipshit, he was when he was running for POTUS and still remains so. Taking advice from the likes of 'Dilbert', well that speaks for itself. Maybe next we can interview the Wizard of Id and Daffy Duck. Speaking out of his shitpipe when he says stupid things like 'oh well POTUS needs permission from Congress to declare war' - ok asshat, so kindly point to where war was declared? Thought so, have another bowl of stfu. I say next time we polish that cocktip on Paul's head and hang him from his feet, drop his stupid ass on Syria.
 

ej1024

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That's why I don't like to get into political discussions that often. It always comes to people taking my views personally and then calling me names.
No harm done ej, I don't think less of people with different views than mine.

Me neither bro...we good
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ej1024

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Curious to see all those in some sort of favor of Trump suddenly showing such love for Assad. Unlike obummer he kept true to his word. No drawing of meaningless red lines, took action that puts several things in motion. Shows China (and N Korea) he's not afraid to light shit up. That he's tactical and didn't just haphazardly drop ordinance, which shows restraint and not knee jerk emotion. With little to no warning, as he suggested he wouldn't broadcast every move he makes.

The move to warn Russia was diplomatic, avoids direct conflict with a country who we really have no beef with and put Russia on the spot. If they were truly behind Assad as they claim why not move more Russian troops to the location thereby forcing the US to attack Russia? Instead they cleared out, so much for standing with Syria.

Rand Paul is a complete dipshit, he was when he was running for POTUS and still remains so. Taking advice from the likes of 'Dilbert', well that speaks for itself. Maybe next we can interview the Wizard of Id and Daffy Duck. Speaking out of his shitpipe when he says stupid things like 'oh well POTUS needs permission from Congress to declare war' - ok asshat, so kindly point to where war was declared? Thought so, have another bowl of stfu. I say next time we polish that cocktip on Paul's head and hang him from his feet, drop his stupid ass on Syria.

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HondaDavidson

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Curious to see all those in some sort of favor of Trump suddenly showing such love for Assad. Unlike obummer he kept true to his word. No drawing of meaningless red lines, took action that puts several things in motion. Shows China (and N Korea) he's not afraid to light shit up. That he's tactical and didn't just haphazardly drop ordinance, which shows restraint and not knee jerk emotion. With little to no warning, as he suggested he wouldn't broadcast every move he makes.

The move to warn Russia was diplomatic, avoids direct conflict with a country who we really have no beef with and put Russia on the spot. If they were truly behind Assad as they claim why not move more Russian troops to the location thereby forcing the US to attack Russia? Instead they cleared out, so much for standing with Syria.

Rand Paul is a complete dipshit, he was when he was running for POTUS and still remains so. Taking advice from the likes of 'Dilbert', well that speaks for itself. Maybe next we can interview the Wizard of Id and Daffy Duck. Speaking out of his shitpipe when he says stupid things like 'oh well POTUS needs permission from Congress to declare war' - ok asshat, so kindly point to where war was declared? Thought so, have another bowl of stfu. I say next time we polish that cocktip on Paul's head and hang him from his feet, drop his stupid ass on Syria.
Back when Obama was supplying the rebels through bengahzi.... don't have dates but that's about the time war was declared in Syria the last time.

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HazyShades

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HondaDavidson

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IMO... WW3 started about 10 minutes after 2 ended... last night nothing but minor skirmish. Not really even that.


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HazyShades

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IMO... WW3 started about 10 minutes after 2 ended... last night nothing but minor skirmish. Not really even that.


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It began in earnest as soon as we (US) appropriated the NAZI scientists but in reality it's been planned
and slowly brought about for about 300 years.
 

Time

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Trump is saving America. You (nor I) have no idea what it takes to run this shit show of foreign policy he has been left by our last 4 presidents. Just because you might not support him (no matter what) doesn't change a thing.
Trump has already done everything that I voted for him for (Gorsuch) and anything else for the next almost 4 years is a bonus.

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Trump is a fucktard. I supported him until he made a liar out of himself and me. That he made a liar out of himself is bad enough but I've defended him until he made a liar out of me. He said America first, no foreign intervention. I said, Trump is for America first without foreign intervention. He made a lair out me. Fuck that punk. People only fool me once.
 

Tpat591

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No he didn't. He fucking lied. He campaigned on leaving the rest of the ME alone and killing ISIS. Instead, he bombs Assad.

Tried to tell you he was being manipulated into it. Maybe he was a Neocon the whole time, but not even DJT is that big a liar.

He did what he had to do to survive. Really hoping he will redeem himself, but it ain't looking good now.


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HondaDavidson

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Trump is a fucktard. I supported him until he made a liar out of himself and me. That he made a liar out of himself is bad enough but I've defended him until he made a liar out of me. He said America first, no foreign intervention. I said, Trump is for America first without foreign intervention. He made a lair out me. Fuck that punk. People only fool me once.

Yes he's a fucktard.. he always has been.. he's also a liar. He's a SALESMAN by profession. He doesn't build stuff he sells buildings and such and his name.

What made you think Trump could change nearly 100 years of being the worlds policeman in 80 days?

What did you think building up the military is for....

even Trumps not that stupid... oh and he'll get every penny of the 54 billion now..... probably more.

I voted for him so far he's done exactly as I expected. A few bone head moves... Flynn Aca. A few acts of brilliance. All to be ignored or whitewashed and spun by MSM.

The scary and funny part is who hates vs likes him day to day.

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Time

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Tried to tell you he was being manipulated into it. Maybe he was a Neocon the whole time, but not even DJT is that big a liar.

He did what he had to do to survive. Really hoping he will redeem himself, but it ain't looking good now.


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He can't do anything to redeem himself with me. Manipulated is an excuse for being weak. If he can be manipulated, I have no use for him.
 
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