In case you haven't noticed THEY threw away the rule book a long, long time ago.
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In case you haven't noticed THEY threw away the rule book a long, long time ago.
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http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8293534/who-is-jared-kushner-trump-administration/
Jared is one of the most influential people in Trump's circle. He has been called someone who "enjoys a Rasputin-like power" with Trump.
[snipped the irrelevant stuff...other than he's an Orthodox Jew=Zionist]
This is the part where the story gets even more biblical, so buckle up. Charles had, for many years, been a top political donor, giving large sums to mostly Democratic candidates, including Bill and Hillary Clinton (and Rudolph Giuliani too).
Charles also gave money to former New Jersey Gov. Jim McGreevey (the guy who resigned after admitting that his "truth" was that he was a "gay American"). After winning the 2002 gubernatorial race, McGreevey appointed Charles to the board of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
Jared is one of the most influential people in Trump's circle. He has been called someone who "enjoys a Rasputin-like power" with Trump.
[snipped the irrelevant stuff...other than he's an Orthodox Jew=Zionist]
This is the part where the story gets even more biblical, so buckle up. Charles had, for many years, been a top political donor, giving large sums to mostly Democratic candidates, including Bill and Hillary Clinton (and Rudolph Giuliani too).
Charles also gave money to former New Jersey Gov. Jim McGreevey (the guy who resigned after admitting that his "truth" was that he was a "gay American"). After winning the 2002 gubernatorial race, McGreevey appointed Charles to the board of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
If by BullShit you mean the media narrative I agree 200%...
Syria is just one if those messes he has to clean up. As he has said many times. He prefers to finish a job than to abandon it. This was step #1.......
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Syria is just one if those messes he has to clean up. As he has said many times. He prefers to finish a job than to abandon it. This was step #1.......
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See? This is hysteria... You listened to some who didn't do their reserach.
Sarin lasts a half-hour on clothes. <--- link
More info is needed for me. I think you guys have jumped (over a chasm) to a conclusion.
And even if your belief is true, I still think you've overreacted by turncoating on Trump.
I think that's my disconnect here... the premature (imo) judgment and extreme reaction from you guys.
I'm gonna wait for more credible info (the hard to find kind) before I can even form a solid opinion.
You gonna learn more here than watching faux news!!
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When He Open A NEW Theater Of opperation... I'm WITH you. But I also think we need to finish the jobs we started.....
What I want to know is... what are current ROEs? I prefer shoot first ask later.
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In the West we wear HAZMAT suit to clean up spilled WATER..... in the middle east where people explode.... you don't worry about such BS.
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We didn't turncoat on Trump, Trump turncoated on us. I was with him until then. And, I'm not happy about it. He made a fool out me.
The Ryan healthcare thing would have been turncoating....We didn't turncoat on Trump, Trump turncoated on us. I was with him until then. And, I'm not happy about it. He made a fool out me.
Only a fool, can be fooled. It not something another can do to you.
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Did you actually just agree with me in a round about way?
No, I read several sources and I happen to know how Sarin and other chemical agents work.
An educated opinion is NOT hysteria. ILLEGALLY (as per international law) ordering a missile bombardment on a sovereign nation as a reactionary action 2 days after an alleged but unproven "attack" is what is hysterical.
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As you quote above, "a person's clothing can release Sarin for about 30 minutes..."
So what part of the many "rescue workers" handling FRESH victims ( if not FRESH they'd be dead)
while totally unprotected was it that you missed?.
Perhaps you should seek an educated opinion rather than react hysterically to show your ignorance.
Start by using the search feature of your browser and stop stroking your pussy hat.
I think it may be time to go SHARK hunting...
Dude, go read up about Sarin. Had said gas been Sarin not one of those motherfuckers would have touched the victims
unless the victim was their child then the parent would have died also.
Yes, they have HAZMAT suits and sometimes even indoor plumbing.
What Sy Sims said.
He doesn't even know what happened on 2013 after you posted several articles & videos about it right in front of his face in this thread. We been pointing this out with supporting information for 3 days. Don't waste your time trying to convince him.
EJ must have slipped him a blue pill.
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If Trump does everything he promised or everything exactly as said during campaign. . History will remember him as a great president....... the marvel will be the 90% disapproval rating doing it....he can afford a 90% NEGATIVE rating year 5 to 8. It needs to be better than that the first 4.....
That's why my powder is still in the can.
There are only 24 hours in a day he has been in office what 80 of them. I'm just giving him a realistic amount of time.
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That's why my powder is still in the can.
There are only 24 hours in a day he has been in office what 80 of them. I'm just giving him a realistic amount of time.
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I think Joe needs to order some pussy hats for all the early Trump turncoats.
I'm kinda shocked at how quickly and easily some of you alleged conservatives
became whining liberals the minute you feel Trump deviated from your vision.
Trump was never a conservative he has some conservative values which made him our only choice between the two . I don't think your a turncoat if you disagree with actions of a president. I support him I want him to succeed but if he fucks up you have to call him on it . Otherwise just join a cult or the Democratic Party !
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Lincoln was no saint...he declared a scorched earth policy toward the south..Sherman's march to the sea was a despicable act.
spanky spanky time.
what do you mean.
maybe.
Yeah the was pretty much the extent of his negotiations with China.
Come to dinner watch some fireworks... priceless.
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Come to dinner watch some fireworks... priceless.
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Was just thinking the very same thought. In addition
it seems a useless waste of time to post supporting evidence
when they refuse to read it.
In that light and on my son's advice:
"This old man, he played one,
He played knick-knack on my thumb
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
Give the dog a bone,
This old man came rolling home."
Catch y'all later...it's time for this old man to take a break.
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Your off the trump train . Now your not so sure he is who he is . That's ok alott of people agree with you . I don't think he is a stooge or puppet his ego is to big for that .
As to why the fuck he did what he did in Syria. I honestly think it pissed him off to see people gassed and someone agreed with him and said fuckin bomb them show your not Obama! And he did ! Fucked up ? Yes worrisome? Extremely . But we all took that chance with the wildcard in voting for him . That's how fucking desperate we were to not have anymore of Obamas policies .
I agree that everyone should criticize the man if he fucks up , he works for us . Your a dem if you defend the indefensible!
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I'm not on or off anything..I am critical of my goverment when they do things that I don't like...Like I said who knows....I'm sure they warned JFK to STFU or the would kill him..he thought he was above their power because of his office, because of his family's power, but these guys will kill half the planet if they think they need to.and not lose a nights sleep over it.Once JFK was assassinated...it was anything goes.If Trump wants my support he better clean up his act or he will get thrown to the sandy vags.
tru words...I don't give a flying fuck about syria or how they treat each other that is thier bussiness...America first last and all ways...our citizens are being put last in line after illegal mexicans, after muslims, after the NWO.it's time for that shit to stop...I don't care about the rest of the world and the particular experimant they are following...I care about the experiment called America, and what it can create when it's people aren't burdened with phony ass wars and the collar of central bank debt around their necks.
HellDude, did you watch the videos of all those "beautifull" red rocket's glare
Tommyhawk missiles taking off from the USS Ross and the USS Porter?
Is the Shayrat Airfield in the USA or on any US territory including Guam or Puerto Rico?
No. Shayrat is a village in central Syria, administratively part of the Homs Governorate, located southeast of Homs on the western fringes of the Syrian Desert. IN SYRIA. It is the home of the SYRIAN Air Force.
Syria; Arabic: سوريا Sūriyā), officially known as the Syrian Arab Republic (Arabic: الجمهورية العربية السورية al-Jumhūrīyah al-ʻArabīyah as-Sūrīyah), is a country in Western Asia, bordering Lebanon and the Mediterranean Sea to the west, Turkey to the north, Iraq to the east, Jordan to the south, and Israel to the southwest. Syria's capital and largest city is Damascus.
The country is a sovereign nation, on 24 October 1945 Syria became a founding member of the United Nations.
It is still a member of the United Nations. They have been having a civil war since 2011.
They are an ancient people, as the country's name implies they are what is left of the ancient Assyrians dating back to
the 15th century BC.
Syria has been a sovereign modern nation since 1937 when they won independence from France.
As an independent sovereign nation the Assad government is recognized as legitimate though the Syrian National Council, a provisional government in exile has been recognized as a partner in dialogue or as an opposition group.
As a member of the United Nations Syria is legally bound, liable and responsible to the United Nations Security Council,
NOT to the United States of America Inc unless the latter has been assigned a police action as a member of the UN Security Council.
You starting to see the light yet?
No? Otay...
An act of war is an action by one country against another with an intention to provoke a war or an action that occurs during a declared war or armed conflict between military forces of any origin. The loss or damage caused due to such conflicts are excluded from insurance coverage except for life assurances.
While Russia and Iran have been invited by the legitimate, internationally recognized government
of Syria, an independent sovereign nation, to combat the insurgents, rebels, and jihadist Daesch,
the United States is there because we think we can boss the world.
You getting hip yet?
Otay, what Trump did is illegal and if any other country did it they'd get sanctioned by the UN.
A concept known as INTERNATIONAL LAW exists and we as a nation have broken most of the laws.
The above in itself is enough data for me to compute that Mr Trump fucked up and
isn't doing what he said he would.
You don't even have to prove that the chlorine (the easiest to acquire and convert to nerve agent
by poorly trained chemists in the field) in the bunkers that got blown up was really the Sarin that Obama said
we had eliminated. I shouldn't even have to explain that if it was Sarin the poor victims could not, would not have been handled until hours later when they would cart off the bodies.
Now if you add the shitload of promises that Trump made and said he would do as soon as he took office
that he has not done, the fact that a great many of his appointees are connected to Goldman-Sachs and known globalists
AND for me personally, the fact that congress is in recess and Obama Care HAS NOT BEEN REPEALED
I don't really need anybody who hasn't taken the time to do the research to tell me
to "Give Donald Trump a Chance" (song to the tune of Give Peace a Chance)
It may take some of us ages to recognize bullshit but a few get hip right away.
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time
If only they could write better bullshit but it's the same old same old
Apparently when Time says something he means it. If he tells his significant other from now on, his relationship is the most important thing and his primary objective, he means exactly that. Not just on days when they're out enjoying a night on the town. That includes the one off night when some broad is getting brutally beaten by her pimp. It's not the norm but don't expect Time to jump in and defend someone who's helpless, after all - his relationship is his primary agenda.
A baby being brutally beaten by some trailer park nutjob, Time just keeps on strolling and turns a blind eye. He's someone with dignity after all and why step in on behalf of a maimed child. To do so would somehow make him a bald faced liar and we couldn't have that.
Sounds pretty ignorant but I don't think the correlation is too far off. Trump didn't initiate any kind of attack because two sides involving grown ass men with a difference of opinion over their government were battling, he stepped in when it extended to crimes against humanity, war crimes, the use of chemical weapons that without prejudice hit not only rebels but women and children. If you'd rather a leader that doesn't have the sack to stand up against that, I don't think I'd want your leader. We already had a pussy for 8yrs, don't need another.
A baby being brutally beaten by some trailer park nutjob, Time just keeps on strolling and turns a blind eye. He's someone with dignity after all and why step in on behalf of a maimed child. To do so would somehow make him a bald faced liar and we couldn't have that.
Sounds pretty ignorant but I don't think the correlation is too far off. Trump didn't initiate any kind of attack because two sides involving grown ass men with a difference of opinion over their government were battling, he stepped in when it extended to crimes against humanity, war crimes, the use of chemical weapons that without prejudice hit not only rebels but women and children. If you'd rather a leader that doesn't have the sack to stand up against that, I don't think I'd want your leader. We already had a pussy for 8yrs, don't need another.
It seems few people take the law into consideration. Sovereignty is another greatly misunderstood term.
If the legitimate government of Syria had bombed Atlanta, Georgia then the government of the USA
would be legitimately entitled to retaliate.
Maybe if we look at matters from a different perspective:
https://www.rt.com/news/384042-shayrat-probe-chemical-weapons/
Twenty-four hours have passed since the US Navy warships launched a massive missile strike at the Shayrat airfield, and neither the Pentagon nor the State Department have provided any evidence of presence of chemical weapons at this airbase,” the ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said in a statement on Saturday.
Dozens of representatives of the media, local authorities, fire departments, police, and the Syrian military have visited the airfield since then, with no alleged “storage units” or any chemical shells having been found, he said.
“The only way to receive and present to the whole international community any objective evidence on the alleged presence of poisonous substances at Shayrat is to send a mission of professional experts there,” the defense ministry statement said
All the people who have worked at or visited the airfield “do not wear gas masks and are feeling pretty normal,” Konashenkov said, adding that “any specialist from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) knows that traces of chemical agents cannot be hidden for months and years” if they were stored somewhere.
“So here comes the question: what and by who has yet again been presented to the new US president as ‘proof’ of existence of chemical weapons in the state which is out of Washington’s favor?”
If the legitimate government of Syria had bombed Atlanta, Georgia then the government of the USA
would be legitimately entitled to retaliate.
Maybe if we look at matters from a different perspective:
https://www.rt.com/news/384042-shayrat-probe-chemical-weapons/
Twenty-four hours have passed since the US Navy warships launched a massive missile strike at the Shayrat airfield, and neither the Pentagon nor the State Department have provided any evidence of presence of chemical weapons at this airbase,” the ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said in a statement on Saturday.
Dozens of representatives of the media, local authorities, fire departments, police, and the Syrian military have visited the airfield since then, with no alleged “storage units” or any chemical shells having been found, he said.
“The only way to receive and present to the whole international community any objective evidence on the alleged presence of poisonous substances at Shayrat is to send a mission of professional experts there,” the defense ministry statement said
All the people who have worked at or visited the airfield “do not wear gas masks and are feeling pretty normal,” Konashenkov said, adding that “any specialist from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) knows that traces of chemical agents cannot be hidden for months and years” if they were stored somewhere.
“So here comes the question: what and by who has yet again been presented to the new US president as ‘proof’ of existence of chemical weapons in the state which is out of Washington’s favor?”
If you want to join up to go save babies in Syria there is nothing stopping you...but use your own body and your own money...The people of the US are not the worlds policemen...if they make a dent in ending human suffering it will not be with warships, but with creating a society that other seek to emulate...it is not our job to elevate other cultures to what we think is civlized...it is insane and beyond arrogant to think we can stop human suffering..That will require an evolution of conciousness by each human being.....whether you or I like it or not some people are not interested in following your vision of a civilized society...it is not our place to think for other cultures.if you want to be an emmisarry of enlightenment to Syria by all means knock yourself out.but that is your bussiness, not mine or anyone else's and your moral yardstick should stay in your own backyard don't use it on other people. as an American I undertand where you are coming from,but this ain't Syria.They don't share our hisoty nor have they made the same choices...I'm not going to declare war on headhunters in Borneo becuase I don't like headhunting..I say live and let live, The headhunter in Boreno know full damn well if he tries that headhunting shit in Phoniex he's gonna catch a bullet, he knows that and respects that.and as long as he does I have no problem with him doing what people in Borneo do to each other.
Stepping in to a Civil War is like stepping into a domestic violence situation..regardless of what you do nobody is gonna like you for it, and ultimately the situation can only be resolved by the people within that relationship
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https://www.rt.com/news/384058-lavrov-tillerson-syria-us-strike-call/
Russian FM & US Secretary of State discuss US strike on Syria in phone call
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has discussed the US missile strike in Syria with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in a phone conversation, the ministry has said.
Putin believes US attack on Syria violates international law – spokesman
Lavrov told his US counterpart that Washington’s claims, accusing the Syrian army of the use of chemical weapons in Idlib on April 4, were "inaccurate and inconclusive," the ministry said.
A thorough and impartial investigation must be launched following the alleged chemical attack in Idlib, which the US cited as the reason for its missile strike, Lavrov told the American official.
The US attack ordered by President Trump only played into terrorists’ hands, Russia’s top diplomat told Tillerson.
Russian FM & US Secretary of State discuss US strike on Syria in phone call
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has discussed the US missile strike in Syria with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in a phone conversation, the ministry has said.
Putin believes US attack on Syria violates international law – spokesman Lavrov told his US counterpart that Washington’s claims, accusing the Syrian army of the use of chemical weapons in Idlib on April 4, were "inaccurate and inconclusive," the ministry said.
A thorough and impartial investigation must be launched following the alleged chemical attack in Idlib, which the US cited as the reason for its missile strike, Lavrov told the American official.
The US attack ordered by President Trump only played into terrorists’ hands, Russia’s top diplomat told Tillerson.
https://www.rt.com/news/384054-escalation-syria-strike-conflict/
Iraq calls for end to further escalation in Syria, ‘urgent’ international probe
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi, in a telephone call with US Vice President Mike Pence, highlighted the need to end the escalation of the Syrian conflict and conduct an urgent investigation into the suspected chemical weapons attack.
Abadi “stressed the need to develop a comprehensive plan to stop the escalation in Syria and unite efforts to eliminate Daesh [Arabic acronym for IS] and other terrorist organizations,” the Iraqi government said in a statement.
Iraq calls for end to further escalation in Syria, ‘urgent’ international probe
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi, in a telephone call with US Vice President Mike Pence, highlighted the need to end the escalation of the Syrian conflict and conduct an urgent investigation into the suspected chemical weapons attack.
Abadi “stressed the need to develop a comprehensive plan to stop the escalation in Syria and unite efforts to eliminate Daesh [Arabic acronym for IS] and other terrorist organizations,” the Iraqi government said in a statement.
Steele is a very smart guy, but how he could believe Donald Trump would not take issue with all the stuff he says in these interviews to the whole world.
Telling Dems he just committed an act that can end his presidency be it a joke or not is not the way to endear himself. He would never be allowed a senior position because he would never get approval since he apparently cannot keep a secret.
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I agree to some extent though much of the world does take a stance when it involves crossing a line. The UN, Geneva Convention etc. It's not the moral yardstick of one individual, my point was despite your views at some point or another it does cross a line where the vast majority can say 'that's not cool'. Raping grandmas probably falls under that category. So does maiming and killing babies. POTUS hasn't involved the US over general wars in the middle east, the strike on the Syrian air base wasn't like 'oh well, we agree with the sunni or shiites or hey, we don't like Assad'. It was a one off strike done in retaliation to a contained issue that crossed a line. A 30min missile strike as an answer to heinous crimes against humanity is vastly different than deploying hundreds of thousands of troops trying to occupy or install a democracy where one doesn't exist and facilitate a regime change like we did in the gulf wars.
To suggest that a few hours of reflection on the matter and the order to 'light em up' somehow means a wall can't be built or that the entire America First agenda had to be sidelined is ridiculous and more premature than PeeWee Herman in a movie theater. War was never declared. Much of the allied forces had good things to say about Trump's reaction, as did people from the region who were thankful and who have said they would rather stay in Syria than be forced to become refugees - which in turn would end up in bleeding heart nations like the US and draining much more than the cost of 59 tomahawks. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Even unlikely's like Schumer praised Trump's response, to say no matter what you do no one is going to like you for it isn't exactly correct.
We've been an example of what a diplomatic and fairly civilized culture can be for the better part of 3 centuries, being a shining example hasn't changed shit. As I said it's one thing for people to war. Countries and bands of people have been warring for as long as there have been people roaming the earth. I think pretty much any culture, whether Russians, Chinese, Mexican, Canadian, Italian, mob bosses, crack dealers etc - can all agree that maiming and killing babies is bullshit. Lil Kim who's over there threatening to take over the world and mows down his own cabinet members with anti aircraft guns I bet would call that fucked up.
Had our previous failure in chief done something besides twiddle his thumbs and dump off plane loads of cash to terrorists like Iran they wouldn't have had the extra funds to help prop up Syria and allow them to continue with their chemical weapons shenanigans. As POTUS has stated multiple times, he inherited a helluva mess. Given that we do have some troops in the area, any destruction of chems that could potentially be used on them is fine by me. I'm much more at ease with tax dollars keeping our soldiers safer than being funneled into ridiculous bullshit education systems that fail our kids or some vegetarian's wet dream kale school lunch program.
It is stupid to think we can end human suffering, we can't. It doesn't mean we have to turn a blind eye to it. Wanna really save some tax money? Fuck old people. No medicare, no medicaid, no money to hospice programs or drugs for the elderly. I mean fuck it, they're old and they're just gonna die right? Not like we can stop it. So screw 'em. It's not like medicare is saving all old people, only some of them. At least until they finally croak. But we do what we can because it is the humane thing to do.
I don't personally give a rats ass what the middle east is fighting over this month, it's always something with someone. It doesn't involve me. I'm one of the most heartless people around but even nuking those people would be more humane than chems. Kids and babies choking on their own blood as their organs liquify or their skins melts off is pretty fucked up, even I can tell that much. Given the missile strike was so confined and purposefully targeted I think Trump made a good choice. One that was restrained and carried out diplomatically to prevent entering a general conflict with Russia since as you pointed out we don't need to be the world's police and don't need to go randomly warring with the rest of the world. Unfortunately sometimes we have to play referee, it's not the first time and won't be the last. Other times have been the world wars and how would that have ended without groups of nations fighting back? Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away or ensure they don't tumble over into your own backyard. It doesn't justify all of our foreign affairs and actions by any means, but to remove all of them would be just as foolish. There's a reason most of the fighting stays 'over there' which is a blessing we enjoy.
NICE SPEECH!!
But you are soooooo CLUELESS! Do me a favor?!
STOP WATCHING FAUX NEWS!!!! Dumb ass!
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It makes me happy that Trump ordered the strike on the Syrian base. Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said it best. "In both word and action" Trump "sent a strong and clear message" that "the use and spread of chemical weapons will not be tolerated."
Warmongering Demoncrats?
Why was it bad when Obama ordered strikes but good when Trump does it?
Maybe your right.....
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With the question of is this a one off or escalation....
Maybe next time we do something like this. We don't leave those questions open.
The tomohawk is nuke capable afterall.
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