Yea, it's smaller than you think... word, world, same shit
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And clearly Trump does know what he is doing?
just wow...
Petraeus and McMaster have Taken Over the NSC, Want Massive Ground War with Syria
Involving 150,000 troops
Alex Jones says tens of thousands of troops, artillery, & tanks in Syria now.
https://medium.com/@Cernovich/petra...nt-massive-ground-war-with-syria-e67b71a9076a
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Involving 150,000 troops
Alex Jones says tens of thousands of troops, artillery, & tanks in Syria now.
https://medium.com/@Cernovich/petra...nt-massive-ground-war-with-syria-e67b71a9076a
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https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/
Alex Jones interviews Cernovich
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That should tell you everything you need to know about Trump. They pulled his strings and he's dancing like a good little puppet.
Of course they are gonna air it. Trump is doing Hillary's biding now. He's the man. They brow beat him into submission and he folded like a featherweight fighting Mike Tyson. He has Hillary's foreign policy now.
For hell's sake, he even sounded like Hillary. I did it for the childrens!
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Yeah, I think Alex, Stone and Cernovich giving Trump the benefit of the doubt are having a bit of wishful thinking. Their hopes don't mesh with McMaster's words.
Assad has eye's. What happened to Sadam? What happened to Ghadaffi? What happened to Egypts President? Assad ain't going anywhere. That means US war with Syria to get rid of him. The rebels can't do it.
Wonderful.
The bottom line in the above article: This is a silent deep state coup led by Petraeus, and Trump must be on guard against McMaster’s false intelligence reports.
The plot thickens.
https://thinkprogress.org/in-wake-o...sends-warships-toward-north-korea-d84b00b73ba
In wake of Syria bombing, Trump sends warships toward North Korea
North Korean officials say U.S. strikes on Syria justify nuclear program
A North Korean foreign minister said Sunday that U.S. airstrikes on Syria justified North Korea’s country’s nuclear defense program, the AP reported, as the United States sent a fleet of Navy destroyers towards the Korean Peninsula.
“We will bolster up in every way our capability for self-defense to cope with the U.S. evermore reckless moves for a war and defend ourselves with our own force,” said the minister, who was unnamed in Sunday’s state-run TV report.
The Navy announced Saturday that President Trump has sent a fleet of U.S. warships, including an aircraft carrier, two destroyers, and a cruiser, towards the Korean Peninsula
In wake of Syria bombing, Trump sends warships toward North Korea
North Korean officials say U.S. strikes on Syria justify nuclear program
A North Korean foreign minister said Sunday that U.S. airstrikes on Syria justified North Korea’s country’s nuclear defense program, the AP reported, as the United States sent a fleet of Navy destroyers towards the Korean Peninsula.
“We will bolster up in every way our capability for self-defense to cope with the U.S. evermore reckless moves for a war and defend ourselves with our own force,” said the minister, who was unnamed in Sunday’s state-run TV report.
The Navy announced Saturday that President Trump has sent a fleet of U.S. warships, including an aircraft carrier, two destroyers, and a cruiser, towards the Korean Peninsula
https://www.ft.com/content/0d4a22e8-1ce3-11e7-a454-ab04428977f9
US carrier’s Korea mission: a message to the world
Experts divided over effectiveness of US tactics against Pyongyang’s nuclear threat
US carrier’s Korea mission: a message to the world
Experts divided over effectiveness of US tactics against Pyongyang’s nuclear threat
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US carrier’s Korea mission: a message to the world
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So if he was sincere and as you say they browbeat him into submission, what really make him turn. They had to find something on him or told him that they would pass off fabricated evidence as real. Maybe they showed him that they will swat his allies away one by one.
Personally I think Kushner is Mossad and they threatened to expose that and arrest Kushner & his daughter as spies and Impeach him if he didn't play ball. He did say his daughter convinced him to change his mind on Syria. Maybe all it took was fear of her being targeted.
Perhaps he decided to perform a limited air strike only with an overwhelming show of force that is poised to strike but never meant to be used beyond partitioning (that could be triggered by the Neocons without his knowledge and blamed on him) or he is being duped & they are doing this behind his back.
It is that or he was complicit with Israel & the Neocons all along. His Joint Press Conference w/ BiBi N definitely telegraphed a long term plan for Peace in the ME promoted by Israel, US, & Saudi that seemed prearranged.
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Yea, sorry. The rest of the article says basically the same as the post b4,
that these idiots are about to get themselves into a two or three front war.
This is not good for rebuilding America. It will only enrich the military-industrial complex
and only possibly create a few jobs and stimulate our simulated economy.
Before the first brick is in the so called wall between Mexico, Trump is sending warships all over the world...how is it he can start a couple of wars and he and the entire political class can come together on that, but somehow in our own country he can't shut down sanctuary cities.Once again I'm being told that we have to spend billions,sacrifice american lives in some godforsaken shithole in the ME, because ISIS is a cunning threat to my security,but the southeren border reamins open..as if ISIS couldn't dance across it any time it wants.....either ISIS is not the threat they make them out to be..or Trump is leaving the entire country vulnerable to attack from a cunning enemy by leaving the border open to them?????which is it.lying sacks of crap.
25 Americans a day die at the hands of illegal aliens..that is almost 10,000 people,a year.. and this includes women and childeren....and yet the political class are so outraged by what happened in Syria. that on little to no proof they are going to start a war in Syria.fire missles send warships risk a major war.....so what makes syrian babbies so precious that we call down armegedon while as American babbies die daily and we are told to just live with it, so we can have cheap lettuce and the rich can get richer.
So when are Trump and Hilary gonna send warships down to Texas to patrol the Rio Grande...when is the American media going to start to show the rapes and murders of our childeren by illegals everyday 24/7 on our TV....selective moral outrage.
25 Americans a day die at the hands of illegal aliens..that is almost 10,000 people,a year.. and this includes women and childeren....and yet the political class are so outraged by what happened in Syria. that on little to no proof they are going to start a war in Syria.fire missles send warships risk a major war.....so what makes syrian babbies so precious that we call down armegedon while as American babbies die daily and we are told to just live with it, so we can have cheap lettuce and the rich can get richer.
So when are Trump and Hilary gonna send warships down to Texas to patrol the Rio Grande...when is the American media going to start to show the rapes and murders of our childeren by illegals everyday 24/7 on our TV....selective moral outrage.
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80 million or so spent on the Cruise missiles Trump used.
Arifield down for maybe 2 days and now back in service.
80 million that could have built some wall.
Arifield down for maybe 2 days and now back in service.
80 million that could have built some wall.
So what do we do... pull out of all foreign envolvments.. recall all ground troops to US bases on US soil and limit the Navy to patrolling the 12 mile zone.
I thought the cut and run pull out of Iraq was a bad thing... now you want to do in planet WIDE?
I agree we should not be as envolved in the ME as we are... but we are.....but we can't just pick up our toys and go home? Can we? Would that make anything better..... Fact us in order to get out of the ME Trump is going to have to do things he said he was against doing. Or he will start WW3.. see inaction is just as dangerous if not more than action. This is not Nascar... sometimes you have go in the other direction to reach a goal.
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gotta call bullshit on that...I've heard that line of shit since Johnson but boots on the ground in Vietnam....
I've given a glance over our Constitutuion and read a few of the writings of our founders, and in no place have I heard them say that this nation was formed to be some army of emancipation for the world...on the contrary I've read repeated warnings from our founders to...stay OUT of forgien entanglments.
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You are right the country wasn't founded to be the world's protector... Shit at the time we didn't even HAVE a military. We did become that though.... with signers as president............
WW1 and WW2. Both started with the US on the sidelines...... How is the US staying home going to prevent the next?
The problem with Vietnam wasn't that we went...we should not have gone.. it was that once we got there, we let the POLITICIAN control the fighting. We limited solders to only shooting after getting shot. And lost...
This same fear of death is why we can't get anything done currently.
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Fwiw... we have been militarily involved in the ME since Thomas Jefferson created and sent the Navy there. In around 1800...... after 200 years I don't think we can just walk away.... we have tried that many times.....I'm sure.
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We should have never gone to Vietnam...there wasn't some mistake made by our leaders....our leaders were owned by the banks before the war started..we went to Vietnam to lose american lives and to go into debt to the banks..from day one that was the objective and from day one that is what the political class accomplished..our goverment doesn't make mistakes...if they do something it is because ..that is what they want to do...we just find it unthinkable to face the reality that we are serfs, we want to live under the illusion we are a represenative goverment..we aren't...they manipulate the people into war...by playing on their most visceral emotions...the sinking of the lithsuania, the bombing of the USS Maine, Pearl Harbor,the bay of Tonkin, and perhaps in the future we will find out for certain 9/11 ...they were all either manufactured events by our goverment to send us to war or they were avoidable acts our leaders led us into.We should have let the Communist take all of southeast asia, and within a decade there would have been a revoliton or the communist regime would have toppled like the USSR did.
Let me ask you a question...our whole view of ourselves as the great emancipators of the world stems from our victory over Hitler during WWII..it projected us into the world superpower.....let me ask you...what if it is all a myth...what if it is all propoganda...what if Hitler was created with our help...what if the allied forces beat down and raped Germany so hard and so viciously, that we forced them to rise up against the allied countries, and that they knew that if they rose up they would be attacked and forced back into poverty and slavery.What if Germany was pushed into war, what if Japan was pushed into war, and what if the US population was tricked into war...What if our propoganda mills have lied about who and what happened during WWII
What if rather than the great emanicpators we find out we were idiots... duped into murder and mayhem agianst other innocent people just for the sake of a handfull of men to rule the planet.....would that change your view of us poking our noses into other countries bussiness...would that change your mind that we have some moral standard bearer to uphold.
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Thomas Jefferson didn't go over to the ME for regime change, and mold the ME to his will...he simply told them "you kill or enslave our people, and we will destroy you...the next move is yours" he didn't march pictures of dead arab babbies under people's noses.as a pretext for building an empire for the banking cartels.
If Jefferson had an Internet or a camera.. he would have...... shown some pics I'm sure. As for the 'banking cartel' that has been there since day one. In some form or another.
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no, Jefferson would not have, that is bullshit..Jefferson was not an imperialist or a nation builder,He would not have sent Americans to die for syrians... and one of Jeffersons most famous quotes was him warning the people of the danger of central banks....the power that the banks wield didn't arise until the creation of fiat currencies.This country for the first 200 years had a central bank for only 40 of those years, and the people continually rejected the central banks...we fought 2 wars with Britian to keep the central bank out of our country.
I agree we should not have gone to Vietnam ... Korea either for that matter. But we did......
The mistake in both cases was not doing the jobs with the intent of winning...
Which by the way is why we should not still be in the Middle East.
The question is how to get out of the stuff other people did... without making things worse at home..... or the troubles comming here... more.
In the past it was easy.... to stay out if the world's messes..... big oceans separated us from the evils of the world...took weeks for people and information to get here. today the trouble is a few hours away by plane and NEWS is instant.
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What you are suggesting makes about as much sense as borrowing money to get out of debt..we just leave and stop killing...what other people do is their bussiness....Regan said the most feared words in the country were.."Hello, I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help" we all know this is true..we all who are free we all fear our own goverment...we fear their absolute power we fear their appitite to oppress us we fear their incompetence, their corruption,their cruelty, their disregard for human life...We just went through an election that revolved around the fact the goverment is corrupt and evil both parties, and we rejected them....why would you think a goverment we all hate and fear is going to do anything good for the people of Syria.
I think it's much simpler than that. I don't he is being threatened at all. He is being manipulated by disinformation from elite and the media. He is swallowing the lies. That's what I mean by browbeating. The false outrage from Neocons and news about dead babies. He finally fell for one.
But it doesn't matter why he flipped. The only thing that matters is the result. He either became corrupt(responding to threats) or he is inept. Neither are good options.
LOL. The pirate story? Yeah, Jefferson sent the Navy to protect US merchant ships from pirates. That's not quite like invading the ME.
That's like comparing when we sent the navy off the coast of Somalia to protect merchant ships from pirates just a few years ago to the Libya invasion.
I always get a good chuckle out out of the Pirate comparison. It's funny how Jefferson sending the Navy to protect US merchant ships from Pirates is some kind of huge US war in the ME but when we do the same thing now off the coast of Somalia we don't call it anything but what it is, protecting US merchant ships from pirates. We certainly didn't call it a military conflict with Somalia.
But then, back then they didn't claim it to be anything else either. It's a new claim after 200 years, that we was somehow at war with the ME.
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I don't buy for a second that he fell for the dying babies false flag, but he may have seen an opportunity to use it to his advantage to silence Russia collusion claims, take decisive action changing world view of his resolve, send a strong message to China & Korea and recognized that a troop buildup in Syria would send a strong message to Damascus, China & Korea that a limited strike alone could not.
Strikes without a real threat of force via military buildup & massing are utterly meaningless.
Making it appear he was betraying his own base allowed Alex Jones, Cernovich, Drudge, Breitbart, Watson, and all others to come out in opposition & outrage to make the threat of force that much more believable for those in power for which the message is intended. It could be evil genius stuff as it truly can make them believe the threat.
If this is the case, it is a very effective strategy and I would give him a lot more credit than I thought possible but I also would have dispatched another carrier to Korea and one to Syria to really sell it.
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I can see why those scenarios are appealing. Nobody likes to have been fooled. I think Alex Jones, Cernovich, and others are going to find themselves getting fooled,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again.
All of Trump's recent moves are warmongering moves. The talk from the Trump administration is warmongering talk.
I don't think things are going to turn out like some people think. Trump did send a message but it's not a good one. China is not going to bow down in the East China Sea. Russia is not going to back down. The message that Trump sent to them is simple. Trump will attack them if they don't lay down and play dead. Their best option is to be allies against the US that is trying to rule the world. That's what they see and that is the message they got. They got the neocon message loud and clear.
Sorry. It's boating season. I've been busy doing boating stuff.
My take is that being President is very difficult. As with anything in life, you have to play the hand you are dealt. Obama fucked up by drawing that bloody red line, and then letting Assad waltz across it with no repercussions. I don't want Syrian refugees coming to America, so I support fixing the issue that is causing them to come here. It should have been fixed 8 years ago and it wasn't so it has to be dealt with now. That's it. Plain and simple. I'd prefer just turning the entire ME into a glass parking lot just to get it over with, but I suspect that Trump probably doesn't feel the same way. I won't hold that against him either.
I believe that there will be other preexisting issues that Trump will have to deal with in a manner that run contrary to what he campaigned on as well. He didn't have access to the the status of some things going on in the world that he does have access to now. He can't be held responsible for what he couldn't possibly know as a private citizen. As President, he has to deal with them using the information that he now has access to. I still trust him to make better decisions than Hillary would have made. I may not agree with everything he does based on the information available to me, but I'm willing to let him play his hand, and will make my judgement after I get to see the outcome at a later date.
We'll get healthcare reform at some point in the near future. I think Ryan took it in the wrong direction, and Trump gave him the appearance of support knowing that it didn't have a chance in hell of passing as written. He scored points with Ryan, which should get some degree of cooperation out of him later on when he needs it. I also think he used the tactics he used on the freedom caucus in order to show them that they'll need to compromise to some degree as well. Now that the first attempt failed, he'll be able to bring the parties together to work out the details. He can't repeal it on his own unless Congress and the Senate lay a clean repeal bill on his desk. The Executive branch can't write legislation, so he'll need to use his influence to get them as close to where he wants them to be as possible. If he signs a bad bill into law, then I'll hold that against him. I'm not willing to bash him over something that he didn't even get a chance to sign into law.
So... I'm not going to cut and run on him yet. I still feel that he's doing a far better job of watching out for my best interest than Barry ever did, and Hillary ever would have. He was the best option I had at the time, and I still feel that way. I have no regrets. I learned long ago that expecting "perfect" outcomes based on my predisposed perceptions is unrealistic. Nothing ever goes as planned, promised, or foreseen. If he raises my taxes, I'll bail on him just as I did with Bush 41. I still sorta regret helping Bill Clinton getting elected, but I couldn't support Bush Sr. after he reneged on the "no new taxes" pledge. He crossed a line that IMO Trump hasn't.
I'm happy about the Gorsuch confirmation. I'm happy that Trump showed McConnell how to have a little spine. He's showing leadership. It appears to be helping the GOP as a whole get a little fight in their bellies. If he keeps showing them what winning feels like, I think they'll start to show a little more initiative in moving his direction. We had zero chance of getting a Judge like Gorsuch through without Trump's leadership. He's pushing them in the right direction, and that's a plus.
And yeah... Obama intended to wreck the country from the get go and I understood that. He knew what he was doing in that regard, but when it came to the real issues, he had no fucking clue.
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Nice Trump apologist post.Sorry. It's boating season. I've been busy doing boating stuff.
My take is that being President is very difficult. As with anything in life, you have to play the hand you are dealt. Obama fucked up by drawing that bloody red line, and then letting Assad waltz across it with no repercussions. I don't want Syrian refugees coming to America, so I support fixing the issue that is causing them to come here. It should have been fixed 8 years ago and it wasn't so it has to be dealt with now. That's it. Plain and simple. I'd prefer just turning the entire ME into a glass parking lot just to get it over with, but I suspect that Trump probably doesn't feel the same way. I won't hold that against him either.
I believe that there will be other preexisting issues that Trump will have to deal with in a manner that run contrary to what he campaigned on as well. He didn't have access to the the status of some things going on in the world that he does have access to now. He can't be held responsible for what he couldn't possibly know as a private citizen. As President, he has to deal with them using the information that he now has access to. I still trust him to make better decisions than Hillary would have made. I may not agree with everything he does based on the information available to me, but I'm willing to let him play his hand, and will make my judgement after I get to see the outcome at a later date.
We'll get healthcare reform at some point in the near future. I think Ryan took it in the wrong direction, and Trump gave him the appearance of support knowing that it didn't have a chance in hell of passing as written. He scored points with Ryan, which should get some degree of cooperation out of him later on when he needs it. I also think he used the tactics he used on the freedom caucus in order to show them that they'll need to compromise to some degree as well. Now that the first attempt failed, he'll be able to bring the parties together to work out the details. He can't repeal it on his own unless Congress and the Senate lay a clean repeal bill on his desk. The Executive branch can't write legislation, so he'll need to use his influence to get them as close to where he wants them to be as possible. If he signs a bad bill into law, then I'll hold that against him. I'm not willing to bash him over something that he didn't even get a chance to sign into law.
So... I'm not going to cut and run on him yet. I still feel that he's doing a far better job of watching out for my best interest than Barry ever did, and Hillary ever would have. He was the best option I had at the time, and I still feel that way. I have no regrets. I learned long ago that expecting "perfect" outcomes based on my predisposed perceptions is unrealistic. Nothing ever goes as planned, promised, or foreseen. If he raises my taxes, I'll bail on him just as I did with Bush 41. I still sorta regret helping Bill Clinton getting elected, but I couldn't support Bush Sr. after he reneged on the "no new taxes" pledge. He crossed a line that IMO Trump hasn't.
I'm happy about the Gorsuch confirmation. I'm happy that Trump showed McConnell how to have a little spine. He's showing leadership. It appears to be helping the GOP as a whole get a little fight in their bellies. If he keeps showing them what winning feels like, I think they'll start to show a little more initiative in moving his direction. We had zero chance of getting a Judge like Gorsuch through without Trump's leadership. He's pushing them in the right direction, and that's a plus.
And yeah... Obama intended to wreck the country from the get go and I understood that. He knew what he was doing in that regard, but when it came to the real issues, he had no fucking clue.
Sorry. It's boating season. I've been busy doing boating stuff.
My take is that being President is very difficult. As with anything in life, you have to play the hand you are dealt. Obama fucked up by drawing that bloody red line, and then letting Assad waltz across it with no repercussions. I don't want Syrian refugees coming to America, so I support fixing the issue that is causing them to come here. It should have been fixed 8 years ago and it wasn't so it has to be dealt with now. That's it. Plain and simple. I'd prefer just turning the entire ME into a glass parking lot just to get it over with, but I suspect that Trump probably doesn't feel the same way. I won't hold that against him either.
I believe that there will be other preexisting issues that Trump will have to deal with in a manner that run contrary to what he campaigned on as well. He didn't have access to the the status of some things going on in the world that he does have access to now. He can't be held responsible for what he couldn't possibly know as a private citizen. As President, he has to deal with them using the information that he now has access to. I still trust him to make better decisions than Hillary would have made. I may not agree with everything he does based on the information available to me, but I'm willing to let him play his hand, and will make my judgement after I get to see the outcome at a later date.
We'll get healthcare reform at some point in the near future. I think Ryan took it in the wrong direction, and Trump gave him the appearance of support knowing that it didn't have a chance in hell of passing as written. He scored points with Ryan, which should get some degree of cooperation out of him later on when he needs it. I also think he used the tactics he used on the freedom caucus in order to show them that they'll need to compromise to some degree as well. Now that the first attempt failed, he'll be able to bring the parties together to work out the details. He can't repeal it on his own unless Congress and the Senate lay a clean repeal bill on his desk. The Executive branch can't write legislation, so he'll need to use his influence to get them as close to where he wants them to be as possible. If he signs a bad bill into law, then I'll hold that against him. I'm not willing to bash him over something that he didn't even get a chance to sign into law.
So... I'm not going to cut and run on him yet. I still feel that he's doing a far better job of watching out for my best interest than Barry ever did, and Hillary ever would have. He was the best option I had at the time, and I still feel that way. I have no regrets. I learned long ago that expecting "perfect" outcomes based on my predisposed perceptions is unrealistic. Nothing ever goes as planned, promised, or foreseen. If he raises my taxes, I'll bail on him just as I did with Bush 41. I still sorta regret helping Bill Clinton getting elected, but I couldn't support Bush Sr. after he reneged on the "no new taxes" pledge. He crossed a line that IMO Trump hasn't.
I'm happy about the Gorsuch confirmation. I'm happy that Trump showed McConnell how to have a little spine. He's showing leadership. It appears to be helping the GOP as a whole get a little fight in their bellies. If he keeps showing them what winning feels like, I think they'll start to show a little more initiative in moving his direction. We had zero chance of getting a Judge like Gorsuch through without Trump's leadership. He's pushing them in the right direction, and that's a plus.
And yeah... Obama intended to wreck the country from the get go and I understood that. He knew what he was doing in that regard, but when it came to the real issues, he had no fucking clue.
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lol... you're a boob.
You know... that might be out of line. I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, but that's okay. Not everyone every agrees with everyone else. Sorry I called you boob.
That was no apology. I stand behind what I think, and popular or not, I'll stick with it.
That was no apology. I stand behind what I think, and popular or not, I'll stick with it.
Not a boob but I like boobs.
We likely agree on may things. Just not on Trump or the USA being the police force for the world.At least we agree on something.
Actually he is a genuine arrogant ass.FAKE NEWS
FAKE ATTACK
WW3....
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