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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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pulsevape

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Yea, does it? So what military action has he put forward? What has he suggested? What diplomacy might happen with russia first? man you are in the "know" tell me all your secrets.

I see conspiracy theories... think i need to break out my tinfoil top hat.
Tell you what Einstien..you wanna go nation building? you and your kids, and grandkids can pay for it..me and mine want no part of rebuilding Syria.I voted to rebuild America. I see tomhawk missles and a Secretary of State talking about rebuilding Syria without Assad so which part of that do you see as a conspiracy theroy...I'm old enough to remember when people like you thought Oswald killed JFK and anybody that disputed that was insane...some of us wise up.
 

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Syria I can justify.. if only because we do have people in Syria.... and it is in our national intrest to protect them. Wether we agree with them being there is irrelevant. Trump didn't send them there others did.... so I'll forgive spinning it to babies instead of solders for public consumtion.

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Oh, I'm sure lot's of Republicans can justify anything a Republican president does. Just like most Democrats could justify anything Obama did or Hillary did.

Hell, most Republicans justify Bush's Iraq invasion, still. Most Democrats justify Hillary's email server and Benghazi.

That's not the point. I'm not a person that follows blindly, that's why I'm independent. I'm not here to justify things. I no longer believe everything the government says because time and time again, it's been fake. I need proof. And if Trump can't give me proof and bombs anyway, he is no better than Hillary, Bush or Obama.
 

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Tell you what Einstien..you wanna go nation building? you and your kids, and grandkids can pay for it..me and mine want no part of rebuilding Syria.I voted to rebuild America. I see tomhawk missles and a Secretary of State talking about rebuilding Syria without Assad so which part of that do you see as a conspiracy theroy...
Im a "show me" kinda person. I dont see anything about nation building i see the desire for stability and a nation at peace, i certainly dont see the United States being over there. I am all about making America Great. ASSAD is guilty of creating an environment where terrorists could thrive... those same terrorists who mean to do the US harm... I still dont see anything on the books for bombing assad or building syria.... SO Mr Einstein enlighten me, tell me exactly what the US is doing or WILL do that the US has committed to?
 

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People keep thinking that the strike on syria was anything about syria... 5% of it may have been motivated by the chemical weapon use 95% was to spread our feathers and puff our chest to the rest of the international bad guys out there... plain and simple
 

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Oh, I'm sure lot's of Republicans can justify anything a Republican president does. Just like most Democrats could justify anything Obama did or Hillary did.

Hell, most Republicans justify Bush's Iraq invasion, still. Most Democrats justify Hillary's email server and Benghazi.

That's not the point. I'm not a person that follows blindly, that's why I'm independent. I'm not here to justify things. I no longer believe everything the government says because time and time again, it's been fake. I need proof. And if Trump can't give me proof and bombs anyway, he is no better than Hillary, Bush or Obama.
I didn't support going to Iraq by either Bush...... I also didn't support didn't support leaving Iraq..... the way we did either time.

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People keep thinking that the strike on syria was anything about syria... 5% of it may have been motivated by the chemical weapon use 95% was to spread our feathers and puff our chest to the rest of the international bad guys out there... plain and simple

You finally got one right, but you miss the point. That is the definition of being globalists. Trump ran as a Nationalist, anti-globalist.

What part of "America first", has you confused?
 

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You finally got one right, but you miss the point. That is the definition of being globalists. Trump ran as a Nationalist, anti-globalist.

What part of "America first", has you confused?
No it isnt being globalist to send warning shots across the bow of the worlds would be enemies... it is a message that America is BACK and we will not be attacked. Which is exactly why right when we did that we sent carrier group to Korea...
 

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You need to get more news. A US base, IN Syria, was attacked a couple days ago.
A+ on taking things out of context. By "being there" it was more of a place in time resembling actions of what we took in Iraq as "being there" not physically having troops there... way to go!
 

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No it isnt being globalist to send warning shots across the bow of the worlds would be enemies... it is a message that America is BACK and we will not be attacked. Which is exactly why right when we did that we sent carrier group to Korea...

LOL. Who is going to attack the US?

For fuck sake, nobody even attacked while Carter was President.

And I hate to tell you, firing 59 cruise missiles and less than half of them hitting their target isn't all that impressive. It amounted to $10 million for each Syrian death. But, nobody is talking about that.
 

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No it isnt being globalist to send warning shots across the bow of the worlds would be enemies... it is a message that America is BACK and we will not be attacked. Which is exactly why right when we did that we sent carrier group to Korea...
BACK where?..Back being an empire for the elite...Putin isn't sailing warships up the Mississippi...I didn't vote to be the world policeman...nobody attacked us...nobody dropped tomwaks on South Carolina.
 

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LOL. Who is going to attack the US?

For fuck sake, nobody even attacked while Carter was President.

And I hate to tell you, firing 59 cruise missiles and less than half of them hitting their target isn't all that impressive. It amounted to $10 million for each Syrian death. But, nobody is talking about that.
By your previous post you already admitted we were attacked. Our BASE in Syria.... but then i guess i am just a stupid guy who cannot read. Try getting off the MSM tit... And if you want to get factual, we launched 60 not 59 but some people just dont like facts and prefer guesses and made up propaganda. N.Korea has threatened to attack the US. They used words, we used a picture worth 1000 words.... (missile strike)
 

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BACK where?..Back being an empire for the elite...Putin isn't sailing warships up the Mississippi...I didn't vote to be the world policeman...nobody attacked us...nobody dropped tomwaks on South Carolina.
Yes, lets be reactive and wait until we are attacked... YOU R SMRT. Lets wait until N.Korea has nuclear capabilities to hit US Mainland and has missiles in the air to make our stand. Clearly you cannot grasp the concept of a warning shot... When you figure out how/what a warning shot does to protect US lives then maybe JUST MAYBE you will be worth discussing politics with.
 

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BACK where?..Back being an empire for the elite...Putin isn't sailing warships up the Mississippi...I didn't vote to be the world policeman...nobody attacked us...nobody dropped tomwaks on South Carolina.

Not to mention that the only ones attacking the US is ISIS and al-CIA-duh. But instead of sending 59 cruise missiles to mussal or raqqa, we send them after Assad, who is also fighting ISIS.
 

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Yes, lets be reactive and wait until we are attacked... YOU R SMRT. Lets wait until N.Korea has nuclear capabilities to hit US Mainland and has missiles in the air to make our stand. Clearly you cannot grasp the concept of a warning shot... When you figure out how/what a warning shot does to protect US lives then maybe JUST MAYBE you will be worth discussing politics with.
You are new here... so you've been granted a leeway to see who you are, I would suggest you use a more civil tone...just friendly advice.
 

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Not to mention that the only ones attacking the US is ISIS and al-CIA-duh. But instead of sending 59 cruise missiles to mussal or raqqa, we send them after Assad, who is also fighting ISIS.
we should be sending the missles to Langley
 

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You are new here... so you've been granted a leeway to see who you are, I would suggest you use a more civil tone...just friendly advice.
I guess i should be clear, when i am discussing politics it is nothing personal, and everything i say/hear stays in politics. I do not mean to offend it is just insane what/how some people think and see things... sometimes i use improper words when making a point, if anyone is offended i apologize. Nothing personal is meant just the views expressed being debated here not the person saying them :D some people have on blinders and tinted shades and dont see the big picture.
 

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Yes, lets be reactive and wait until we are attacked... YOU R SMRT. Lets wait until N.Korea has nuclear capabilities to hit US Mainland and has missiles in the air to make our stand. Clearly you cannot grasp the concept of a warning shot... When you figure out how/what a warning shot does to protect US lives then maybe JUST MAYBE you will be worth discussing politics with.
yeah the only tough guys I know are in prison or dead...I've gone through enough fights in my time to realize, you don't pick one without a damn good reason.Your fucking poll numbers ain;t a good reason...North Korea has been threatening to bomb us since Truman.
 

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I'm still waiting.... that carrier and what it's plans are..... will say alot.

Syria I can justify.. if only because we do have people in Syria.... and it is in our national intrest to protect them. Wether we agree with them being there is irrelevant. Trump didn't send them there others did.... so I'll forgive spinning it to babies instead of solders for public consumtion.

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As I understand it:

China & South Korea have threatened sanctions if any further nuke or missile tests are performed.

China agrees diplomacy will not deter North Korean tests & sends 150,000 troops to border of NK to assist with refugees

US will strike North Korean Nuclear Reactor if test performed

North Korea threatens to nuke our carrier battle group if it is target of missile strike

Trump threatens Nuclear response on North Korea if North Korea attacks battle group with nuclear weapons

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pulsevape

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As I understand it:

China & South Korea have threatened sanctions if any further nuke or missile tests are performed.

China agrees diplomacy will not deter North Korean tests & sends 150,000 troops to border of NK to assist with refugees

US will strike North Korean Nuclear Reactor if test performed

North Korea threatens to nuke our carrier battle group if it is target of missile strike


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and so we bomb an empty air base in Syria....yeah great idea.I'm sure that's got people's attention.
 

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By your previous post you already admitted we were attacked. Our BASE in Syria.... but then i guess i am just a stupid guy who cannot read. Try getting off the MSM tit... And if you want to get factual, we launched 60 not 59 but some people just dont like facts and prefer guesses and made up propaganda. N.Korea has threatened to attack the US. They used words, we used a picture worth 1000 words.... (missile strike)

Yep. They were attacked by ISIS.

You think bombing Assad sends a message to ISIS? :giggle:

NK has been threatening to attack the US since,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the Korean War. Since then, how many shows of force have we used around the world? Vietnam, Bosnia, Panama, Iraq times two, Libya just to name a few. Has it ever stopped NK threats? Nope.
 

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Yep. They were attacked by ISIS.

You think bombing Assad sends a message to ISIS? :giggle:

NK has been threatening to attack the US since,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the Korean War. Since then, how many shows of force have we used around the world? Vietnam, Bosnia, Panama, Iraq times two, Libya just to name a few. Has it ever stopped NK threats? Nope.
I missed where we bombed Assad....You call these other things "show of force" but none were just a simple missile strike like this.... Apples and Oranges buddy.....
 

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Yes, lets be reactive and wait until we are attacked... YOU R SMRT. Lets wait until N.Korea has nuclear capabilities to hit US Mainland and has missiles in the air to make our stand. Clearly you cannot grasp the concept of a warning shot... When you figure out how/what a warning shot does to protect US lives then maybe JUST MAYBE you will be worth discussing politics with.

Shooting missiles in other parts of the world has never stopped NK threats. For those shows of force, we do it in SK where the NK can see it first hand.
 

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Shooting missiles in other parts of the world has never stopped NK threats. For those shows of force, we do it in SK where the NK can see it first hand.
You are missing the point completely. We had a pussy president that made threats and did nothing about it, which made us look like pushovers, the message was that we will not stand to that shit any more. Obummer is gone! Message sent. We didnt start a war or engage in a huge conflict, we didnt destabilize anything by the missile strike... grasp that point, let it sink in.
 

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the press eviscerated the catholic church...you lying sack of shit....
They did for a while....
But it went away.

Priests re assigned and maybe a couple in prison.
All of them guilty should have been put in prison or killed.
For the children, remember?
 

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I missed where we bombed Assad....You call these other things "show of force" but none were just a simple missile strike like this.... Apples and Oranges buddy.....

Parsing words won't get you far. Concentrate on the points being made.

I'm not writing an essay for college.
 

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You are missing the point completely. We had a pussy president that made threats and did nothing about it, which made us look like pushovers, the message was that we will not stand to that shit any more. Obummer is gone! Message sent. We didnt start a war or engage in a huge conflict, we didnt destabilize anything by the missile strike... grasp that point, let it sink in.
We just spent around 80 million on the missles.
80 million that could be used to start on a wall....
Or fix infrastructure.
Make America Grate again?
 

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We just spent around 80 million on the missles.
80 million that could be used to start on a wall....
Or fix infrastructure.
Make America Grate again?
Or we could take the money from lazy welfare collectors and pay for the missile strike :D The message was worth every cent
 

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For what it is worth guys....there is hardly a single leader of any major country around today who would NOT benifit from a war...Especially with the advent of the internet and exchange of information...China's economy is in the tank, her people's enviroment has been trashed and poisioned, most of her population are in extreme poverty and watch as a handfull of politically connected scum reap the benifts of globalization while they are squatting in outhouses...The Socialist economies of the Europe are going down in flames. half of europe is in open rebellion against the EU..Britian has left France is on the brink,Italy, Hungary, Poland...and the EU is pushing for a war in the ukraine the euro is going to hell...The United States is in debt up to it's eyeballs, it's currency the petrodollar if replaced would send it spiraling into the ground,it's population was just involved in an election where the leaders of both political parties were told to go to hell by the people,and if an election was held today the "Snake Handler " party would get more votes than the RNC, and the DNC has disappeared altogehter and rumored to be in area 51....There is a ton of dissatisfaction on the planet toward the ruling elite, globalization has proven to be a disaster for the great masses of humanity....A war would externalize the people's domestic rage outward toward killing other innocent victims of the elites robber baron policies, and deflect the people's hunt for justice away from the global elite...a war would save the elite from being unmasked and lynched.
 

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You are missing the point completely. We had a pussy president that made threats and did nothing about it, which made us look like pushovers, the message was that we will not stand to that shit any more. Obummer is gone! Message sent. We didnt start a war or engage in a huge conflict, we didnt destabilize anything by the missile strike... grasp that point, let it sink in.

No, I get your point and I don't agree with it. ;)
 

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For what it is worth guys....there is hardly a single leader of any major country around today who would NOT benifit from a war...Especially with the advent of the internet and exchange of information...China's economy is in the tank, her people's enviroment has been trashed and poisioned, most of her population are in extreme poverty and watch as a handfull of politically connected scum reap the benifts of globalization while they are squatting in outhouses...The Socialist economies of the Europe are going down in flames. half of europe is in open rebellion against the EU..Britian has left France is on the brink,Italy, Hungary, Poland...and the EU is pushing for a war in the ukraine the euro is going to hell...The United States is in debt up to it's eyeballs, it's currency the petrodollar if replaced would send it spiraling into the ground,it's population was just involved in an election where the leaders of both political parties were told to go to hell by the people,and if an election was held today the "Snake Handler " party would get more votes than the RNC, and the DNC has disappeared altogehter and rumored to be in area 51....There is a ton of dissatisfaction on the planet toward the ruling elite, globalization has proven to be a disaster for the great masses of humanity....A war would externalize the people's domestic rage outward toward killing other innocent victims of the elites robber baron policies, and deflect the people's hunt for justice away from the global elite...a war would save the elite from being unmasked and lynched.
So what you are saying is that the global leaders need to announce aliens are real and are in fact on their way to take over the planet?
 

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No, I get your point and I don't agree with it. ;)
Every post you make would suggest you dont understand. Equating Vietnam conflict to a simple missile strike where not a single US person was in harms way where there was no retaliation.... seems like you dont get it.
 

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So corporate America and their globalization movement are the true enemies?

Jesus you are so 1970's..you are such a product of left wing idiot propoganda...there is no corporate america idiot...there is no corporate England, no corporate Belgium, these are global robber barons who would murder americans as quickly as they would Nigerians.and they are based in every country...that's how they get morons like you to go attack the other morons with a different flag than theirs...
 

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I know, right? Because NK got the message and stopped threatening the US!

North Korea Threatens U.S. With Nuclear Attack At Any Sign Of Pre-Emptive Strike

It doesn't look to me like fat Kim got the message. Maybe Trump should have put that money towards the debt. :cool:
Again, you are just not getting it. The message was we will do what we do and anything you say will fall on deaf ears. (seems familiar) N.Korea is scared, backed into a corner. Now they are the barking dog.
 

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So what you are saying is that the global leaders need to announce aliens are real and are in fact on their way to take over the planet?
no I think they should let knuckel dragging shit for brains fucks like you with pot bellies and football jersey go pump your tiny fists and start another blood bath while you stuff your face on porkrinds and Bud light and keep score as the body bags come back home....you wanna war asshole there's plenty on the planet to choose from do us all a favor and pick one and join up.
 

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Every post you make would suggest you dont understand. Equating Vietnam conflict to a simple missile strike where not a single US person was in harms way where there was no retaliation.... seems like you dont get it.

I get it just fine. The problem is, like I said in my last post, NK did not get the message.

How in the fuck is "sending a message" a good thing if the people you say the message was for, did not get the message?

North Korea Threatens U.S. With Nuclear Attack At Any Sign Of Pre-Emptive Strike
 

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Again, you are just not getting it. The message was we will do what we do and anything you say will fall on deaf ears. (seems familiar) N.Korea is scared, backed into a corner. Now they are the barking dog.
you are singularly stupid...you are nothing more than a friggin neocon dummy...with McCain's fist up your ass...you think the crap you are mouthing is insightfull you dimwitt I've being hearing this line of crap since Vietnam.
 

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no I think they should let knuckel dragging shit for brains fucks like you with pot bellies and football jersey go pump your tiny fists and start another blood bath while you stuff your face on porkrinds and Bud light and keep score as the body bags come back home....you wanna war asshole there's plenty on the planet to choose from do us all a favor and pick one and join up.
HAHA, yes i am the shit for brains in this conversation. Side note i do not enjoy any of the things you posted here... prokrinds... gross bud light??? expensive water.... pot bellies?? gross...Football jersey??? what am i on the team or something?
 
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