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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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HondaDavidson

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really ....the working class of America hasn't had a real wage increase in 15 years ....maybe that should have been addressed first. I voted for Trump to, I'd like to see him keep his promises, but I keep seeing alot of back peddeling....I am not happy at all about seeing these trade concessions offered to the Chicoms....I don't for a minute think that little turd in NK wipes his own butt without orders from Bejing...
It been more like 40 to 50 years. And what was Trump going to do to increase wages.. that HE could do himself? Seems to me he has been working in that. But again there is no quick fix.. unless you work for the government I guess.

I'd like to see him keep his promises too. Or at least the one within his powers to keep.....

Fact Is he hasn't really even had time to keep most of the promises he's accused of breaking.

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HondaDavidson

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C'mon dude. Really?

Candidate Trump said that on his first day in office, “I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator. China is a currency manipulator.”

You can watch his whole speech.


And he didn't say it just once.

I’m going to instruct my Treasury Secretary to label China, and I like China, they’re my tenant, they buy condos all the time, they’re just fine, but you know what, they’re a currency manipulator and we’re going to apply tariffs to any country that devalues its currency to gain an unfair advantage over the United States.

If you say you are going to do something and you don't do it, it's fucking lie. Tell your boss at work you will do something and then don't do it. See if he thinks it was a lie. :facepalm:
But the US is the Biggest Manipulator of currencies on the planet. How do you think the stock market got to 20000 during a depression of the last 8 years?. It was the free dollars from the FED....... not China manipulating the wan.

Yes China is also guilty of manipulating.. but the truth. Since it important. Is t hey are only responding to our prior manipulations. We create fake Money they create fake money to cover and vice versa.


Kinda the kettle calling the pot black thing.

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HondaDavidson

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C'mon dude. Really?

Candidate Trump said that on his first day in office, “I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator. China is a currency manipulator.”

You can watch his whole speech.


And he didn't say it just once.

I’m going to instruct my Treasury Secretary to label China, and I like China, they’re my tenant, they buy condos all the time, they’re just fine, but you know what, they’re a currency manipulator and we’re going to apply tariffs to any country that devalues its currency to gain an unfair advantage over the United States.

If you say you are going to do something and you don't do it, it's fucking lie. Tell your boss at work you will do something and then don't do it. See if he thinks it was a lie. :facepalm:
Being incorrect and ignorant... isn't lying.... its being wrong...

He's being truthful be not making the acusation. NOW.



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HondaDavidson

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I still say the only person that lied to you..... was you....... expecting any politician to keep all promises or that promises will be kept exactly as stated.. is the biggest lie you told yourself.....

So far he hasn't broken any promises I expect to be kept..... congress has.....

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But the US is the Biggest Manipulator of currencies on the planet. How do you think the stock market got to 20000 during a depression of the last 8 years?. It was the free dollars from the FED....... not China manipulating the wan.

Yes China is also guilty of manipulating.. but the truth. Since it important. Is t hey are only responding to our prior manipulations. We create fake Money they create fake money to cover and vice versa.


Kinda the kettle calling the pot black thing.

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And you think that The Trump is so stupid as to not know this?
The simple answer is that Trump lied.
He never had any intention of having China declared a currency manipulator.
 

HondaDavidson

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And you think that The Trump is so stupid as to not know this?
The simple answer is that Trump lied.
He never had any intention of having China declared a currency manipulator.

They are a minipulator.. and he did and does call them such......

But you can't make it an official acusation... when your own countries economy is based on manipulating currencies....

Call it a lie if you want.. call it a broke promise...... I call it keeping your powder dry.

I will note that trade negotiation will go better.. if we avoid calling the other party a cheater.... at the first meeting. And when they are doing less cheating than your own country. At this particular time.








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HondaDavidson

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sigh...... Trump Apologists what can you do with them?
Not apologising..... I just happen to think Trump is less impulsive and smarter than the MSM built hom up to be....

I'm convinced the new Haters... fell for the Fake News hook line and sinker..... they voted for or against the narrative. .. and ignored the people running.......

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HondaDavidson

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It is his supporters who are not very smart.
He plays them like a violin.

Yeah that is one Fake News story that turns out to be true..... good thing too. Or Hillary would be president.

I'm pretty sure she would have sent boots to Syria rather than missiles.

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But the US is the Biggest Manipulator of currencies on the planet. How do you think the stock market got to 20000 during a depression of the last 8 years?. It was the free dollars from the FED....... not China manipulating the wan.

Yes China is also guilty of manipulating.. but the truth. Since it important. Is t hey are only responding to our prior manipulations. We create fake Money they create fake money to cover and vice versa.


Kinda the kettle calling the pot black thing.

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Trump also ran on replacing Yellen, the head of the Fed. But, he has changed that too. When he campaigned he said he would replace Yellen, now he says she is doing a good job. So, while you call it the pot calling the kettle black, it's actually Trump reversing his policy on the pot and the kettle.

You may be confused because I've used one policy reversal as an example. But Trump has reversed several economic and trade policies. His reversals are a trend, not on a single policy basis but an over all policy change. His new policies, that are reversals, are trending towards more of the same as we've had for many many years, not the America first policy/policies he campaigned on.

So, I'm slightly amused that you bring up the FED but the one thing Trump can do about the FED, without Congress, is replace the chair as he said he would do but he has also reversed that campaign promise too.

You can refuse to see that Trump has become establishment. But that is what his policy reversals show. Including the FED.

Remember "Trust but verify"? I trusted, and the verify is not panning out.
 

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Yeah that is one Fake News story that turns out to be true..... good thing too. Or Hillary would be president.

I'm pretty sure she would have sent boots to Syria rather than missiles.

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It was Hillarys idea to hit the airfield.

80 million worth of missiles and only a couple of days outage for the airfield?
 

HondaDavidson

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It was Hillarys idea to hit the airfield.

80 million worth of missiles and only a couple of days outage for the airfield?
Even if all 60 had been targeted on runways.. the field could be operational in a couple days. The buildings and materials on other hand are harder to replace or repair.

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HondaDavidson

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Trump also ran on replacing Yellen, the head of the Fed. But, he has changed that too. When he campaigned he said he would replace Yellen, now he says she is doing a good job. So, while you call it the pot calling the kettle black, it's actually Trump reversing his policy on the pot and the kettle.

You may be confused because I've used one policy reversal as an example. But Trump has reversed several economic and trade policies. His reversals are a trend, not on a single policy basis but an over all policy change. His new policies, that are reversals, are trending towards more of the same as we've had for many many years, not the America first policy/policies he campaigned on.

So, I'm slightly amused that you bring up the FED but the one thing Trump can do about the FED, without Congress, is replace the chair as he said he would do but he has also reversed that campaign promise too.

You can refuse to see that Trump has become establishment. But that is what his policy reversals show. Including the FED.

Remember "Trust but verify"? I trusted, and the verify is not panning out.
Thing is I never like the Trust but verify thing.... I'm more a DIS TRUST and re verify type.....

I'm still at the verify stage.. since I never got to trust.

Guess that's why I haven't been lied to.... YET.

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Thing is I never like the Trust but verify thing.... I'm more a DIS TRUST and re verify type.....

I'm still at the verify stage.. since I never got to trust.

Guess that's why I haven't been lied to.... YET.

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I'm gonna hit ya with a little friendly cheap shot. :p

You did support Lying Ted. So, I guess I see your point. :D
 

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Even if all 60 had been targeted on runways.. the field could be operational in a couple days. The buildings and materials on other hand are harder to replace or repair.

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Just a waste of money for very limited results.
of course it is not Trumps money he is spending now....
 

HondaDavidson

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I'm gonna hit ya with a little friendly cheap shot.

You did support Lying Ted. So, I guess I see your point. :D

Accepted.. I will note there were onl t 2 viable options presented for me to vote for. THE DONALD or Lyin Ted...... eitherway I knew going in I was not going to get every promise and for certain not everything I want.


For the record... Trump is and always has been an insider and player in politics... that doesn't mean he is or will become establishment.




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Trump also ran on replacing Yellen, the head of the Fed. But, he has changed that too. When he campaigned he said he would replace Yellen, now he says she is doing a good job. So, while you call it the pot calling the kettle black, it's actually Trump reversing his policy on the pot and the kettle.

You may be confused because I've used one policy reversal as an example. But Trump has reversed several economic and trade policies. His reversals are a trend, not on a single policy basis but an over all policy change. His new policies, that are reversals, are trending towards more of the same as we've had for many many years, not the America first policy/policies he campaigned on.

So, I'm slightly amused that you bring up the FED but the one thing Trump can do about the FED, without Congress, is replace the chair as he said he would do but he has also reversed that campaign promise too.

You can refuse to see that Trump has become establishment. But that is what his policy reversals show. Including the FED.

Remember "Trust but verify"? I trusted, and the verify is not panning out.
I hear you Time , and I am as dissapointed as you are,, and God alone knows how far Trump is going to follow the Globalist banksters tune, but I'm still glad I voted for him and that Hilary is not in the whitehouse because at this point she would have granted a de facto amnesty to the scum crossing the borders, would have brought in muslims from terrorist states by the boatloads, and would have troops fighting somewhere on the planet, shut down the internet.enacted the fairness doctrine...and a hundred other crimes...
 

Time

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I hear you Time , and I am as dissapointed as you are,, and God alone knows how far Trump is going to follow the Globalist banksters tune, but I'm still glad I voted for him and that Hilary is not in the whitehouse because at this point she would have granted a de facto amnesty to the scum crossing the borders, would have brought in muslims from terrorist states by the boatloads, and would have troops fighting somewhere on the planet, shut down the internet.enacted the fairness doctrine...and a hundred other crimes...

I dunno.

Cruz, Rubio, Bush or most of the others would have been better than Hitlery but I would not have voted for any of them and I don't think they could have beat her.

If we are going to continue to have globalist rot, I prefer the fast rot over the slow rot. Best to get it over with. If Trump is a neocon globalist, he is slow rot. I would have voted for Ron Paul again.

It was worth a shot. I take risks all the time. Every colt is a chance at a good horse. The ones that don't work out get sold cheap or even given away. Trump is my horse and while he looked promising at the beginning, I've dropped my price on him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,substantially. I'm not giving him away yet as it's too early for that, but I have doubts that he'll ever perform well. If he don't turn it around soon, I'll be raising a new colt in 2020.
 

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I dunno.

Cruz, Rubio, Bush or most of the others would have been better than Hitlery but I would not have voted for any of them and I don't think they could have beat her.

If we are going to continue to have globalist rot, I prefer the fast rot over the slow rot. Best to get it over with. If Trump is a neocon globalist, he is slow rot. I would have voted for Ron Paul again.

It was worth a shot. I take risks all the time. Every colt is a chance at a good horse. The ones that don't work out get sold cheap or even given away. Trump is my horse and while he looked promising at the beginning, I've dropped my price on him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,substantially. I'm not giving him away yet as it's too early for that, but I have doubts that he'll ever perform well. If he don't turn it around soon, I'll be raising a new colt in 2020.

Yep, I think that's a fair assessment...
 

HondaDavidson

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So are we as mad at Trump for lying about where the Carl Vinson has been for the last 2 weeks.... Are we still worried the Carriers are being scrambled for duty?

Seems to me some fake news happened...... Trump used it.....

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RAWR!!! I see some have slightly softened from sounding like they were about to slit their wrists, to taking a moment to reflect and perhaps do as i do and play the "show me" card. Give the guy enough rope to hang himself with... if it is goina happen it will happen....Israel estimates 3+ Tons of chemical weapons still in possession of Assad.... not exactly unbiased but it was reported...
 

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So are we as mad at Trump for lying about where the Carl Vinson has been for the last 2 weeks.... Are we still worried the Carriers are being scrambled for duty?

Seems to me some fake news happened...... Trump used it.....

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Aircraft Carriers are not fighter jets & they take time to move into position. Long distance between Australia & North Korea. Even at top speed it would take a week or more to move from the Straits near Indonesia where Vinson was on 15 the to coast of NK. They would not make a transit like that at top speed unless absolutely necessary so as not to risk mechanical issues.

Did Trump lie about position of the carrier or did Press misreport it?


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HondaDavidson

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Aircraft Carriers are not fighter jets & they take time to move into position. Long distance between Australia & North Korea. Even at top speed it would take a week or more to move from the Straits near Indonesia where Vinson was on 15 the to coast of NK. They would not make a transit like that at top speed unless absolutely necessary so as not to risk mechanical issues.

Did Trump lie about position of the carrier or did Press misreport it?


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That's the point... I think it's kinda funny. .. press miss reports movements. .... Navy and Administration don't correct... instead they play along with the narrative.... timing just about fits... from first report to now... Press finally Noticed the Group never showed up....... never even moved really.

The Fat Boy in North Korea... had to know what that group was doing and where..... I'm sure the have access to someones satellite. China for sure knew where that floating city was.... only people who didnt..... The Press......

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Tpat591

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Reagan is hell of a lot closer but it was in Yokohama down for maintenance & not available. Nimitz was same in US.

Doesn't really matter whether the carriers are off NK as we can launch a much larger strike from SK & Japan at any time.

One would think they would have cancelled the joint exercises with the Aussies & headed to NK directly though.

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Well,well I guess the revolution is going to be televized after all...this dude is screwed....looks like he's gonna get some first hand knowledge about incarceration....that is if he is lucky, and the guy who he sucker punched with the bike lock doesn't show up with a couple of buddies and they take the proffesor off to a quiet spot for some real schooling.

 
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The Cromwell

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We need a bit of that over here.
Make elected officials, CEO's, news media, etc actually responsible for their actions.
No one seems to be responsible for anything any more. Blame it on someone else.
 

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Yep all my fault.
Except for the illegal immigrants that take all the jobs that Americans are too lazy to do.
 
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