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HondaDavidson

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Trump isn't even Trump. What part of, "Trump is reversing his policies" do you not understand?

I expected MAGA would begin to happen by Trump doing what the fuck Trump said he would do. Not fucking changing his policies.

I'm not sure what has you so confused. I liked Trump's campaign policies. I voted for those policies. those were MAGA policies. Those policies no longer exist.

"How did you expect MAGA would happen without dealing with those intanglements?" Answer, BY DOING WHAT TRUMP SAID HE WOULD DO.

He said he would equalize trade with China. I voted for that. That's not what I got and you ask me how did I expect MAGA to happen? :eek:

MAGA begins to happen if Trump doesn't flip flop. But he did flip flop.

MAGA needed Campaign Trump. We don't fucking have campaign Trump. We have liar Trump.



So you did think Trump had some kind of magic wand.....

What you have is President Trump..... sounds like you voted for KING Trump...... he's not Jesus either...

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So you did think Trump had some kind of magic wand.....

What you have is President Trump..... sounds like you voted for KING Trump...... he's not Jesus either...

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You don't need a magic wand to keep your fucking promises. :kickbutt:

Explain to me how this works. Trump changes his policies, I don't change mine and I'm the bad guy, not Trump. :wait:

I give you his lies, you give me excuses. Obama and Hitlery supporters had lots of excuses too. When are people going to stop making excuses so America can truely become great again? Answer that one for me.

ex·cuse
verb
3rd person present: excuses
ikˈskyo͞oz/
  1. 1.
    attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.
    "he did nothing to hide or excuse Jacob's cruelty"
    synonyms: justify, defend, condone, vindicate; More
    forgive, overlook, disregard, ignore, tolerate, sanction
    "such conduct can never be excused"
    antonyms: condemn
    • forgive (someone) for a fault or offense.
      "you must excuse my sister"
      synonyms: forgive, pardon, absolve, exonerate, acquit; More
      informallet someone off (the hook);
      formalexculpate
      "eventually she excused him"
      antonyms: punish, blame
    • overlook or forgive (a fault or offense).
      "sit down—excuse the mess"
    • (of a fact or circumstance) serve in mitigation of (a person or act).
      "his ability excuses most of his faults"
  2. 2.
    release (someone) from a duty or requirement.
    "it will not be possible to excuse you from jury duty"
    synonyms: let off, release, relieve, exempt, absolve, free
    "she has been excused from her duties"
    • (used in polite formulas) allow (someone) to leave a room or gathering.
      "now, if you'll excuse us, we have to be getting along"
    • say politely that one is leaving.
    • (used especially by school pupils) be allowed to leave the room, especially to go to the bathroom.
      "please, can I be excused?"
noun
plural noun: excuses
ikˈskyo͞os/
  1. 1.
    a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense.
    "there can be no possible excuse for any further delay"
    synonyms: justification, defense, reason, explanation, mitigating circumstances, mitigation, vindication
    "that's no excuse for stealing"
    • a reason put forward to conceal the real reason for an action; a pretext.
      "they use their hunting as an excuse to get away from the womenfolk"
      synonyms: pretext, ostensible reason, pretense; More
      informalstory, alibi
      "an excuse to get away"
  2. 2.
    informal
    a poor or inadequate example of.
    "that pathetic excuse for a man!"
    synonyms: travesty of, poor specimen of;
    informalapology for
 
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And why is it no big deal for many for Trump not to show his tax returns?
Must be a politically connected Demoncrat.
 

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And why is it no big deal for many for Trump not to show his tax returns?
Must be a politically connected Demoncrat.
Politically connected democrats have a history of using the IRS to target others....like Republican groups & individuals. You know, sort of like Trump getting Audited for announcing his candidacy for POTUS.
 

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Politically connected democrats have a history of using the IRS to target others....like Republican groups & individuals. You know, sort of like Trump getting Audited for announcing his candidacy for POTUS.
Of course his announcing his candidcy was why hee was audited.
Sarcasm off.

And what was the outcome of the audit?
 

Tpat591

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What was the outcome of the audit?
Or do you just know the politically motivated talking point and not 'The rest of the story'?
Sure you buddies at CNN will leak all about it when it is done. Maybe Maddow will do a three hour special.

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Personally I couldn't care less.
 
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Sure you buddies at CNN will leak all about it when it is done. Maybe Maddow will do a three hour special.

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Personally I couldn't care less.
Of course not, you would not care if Trump was evading taxes and he got caught.
Perhaps he was clean? But unlike you I would like to know the outcome.
 

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The outcome isn't your business. Neither are Trump's tax returns.
You moonbats are just looking for something to lie & piss and moan about.
LMAO.
Mirror mirror on the wall who is the biggest moonbat of all?

Of course you had nothing to say about Obama's tax returns nor his birth certificate? Long form birth certificate LMFAO.
 

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Seriously, where did you libs ever get the idea that you are entitled to see the president's freaking tax return??!!!

Besides, didn't yer faux news girl Rachael Madcow already "reveal" Trump's return? :wave::)
Turned out the cheating bastard only paid 35 million dollars in taxes that year... OMG! we need to demonstrate!:tantrum:

And no the birther thing came from shillary originally and I never believed it.
I want to see what percentage he paid last year.....
I suspect that the one he leaked is the highest tax level return he could come up with.
I like seeing him whine about it on Twitter posts though :)
 

HondaDavidson

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You don't need a magic wand to keep your fucking promises. :kickbutt:

Explain to me how this works. Trump changes his policies, I don't change mine and I'm the bad guy, not Trump. :wait:

I give you his lies, you give me excuses. Obama and Hitlery supporters had lots of excuses too. When are people going to stop making excuses so America can truely become great again? Answer that one for me.

ex·cuse
verb
3rd person present: excuses
ikˈskyo͞oz/
  1. 1.
    attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.
    "he did nothing to hide or excuse Jacob's cruelty"
    synonyms: justify, defend, condone, vindicate; More
    forgive, overlook, disregard, ignore, tolerate, sanction
    "such conduct can never be excused"
    antonyms: condemn
    • forgive (someone) for a fault or offense.
      "you must excuse my sister"
      synonyms: forgive, pardon, absolve, exonerate, acquit; More
      informallet someone off (the hook);
      formalexculpate
      "eventually she excused him"
      antonyms: punish, blame
    • overlook or forgive (a fault or offense).
      "sit down—excuse the mess"
    • (of a fact or circumstance) serve in mitigation of (a person or act).
      "his ability excuses most of his faults"
  2. 2.
    release (someone) from a duty or requirement.
    "it will not be possible to excuse you from jury duty"
    synonyms: let off, release, relieve, exempt, absolve, free
    "she has been excused from her duties"
    • (used in polite formulas) allow (someone) to leave a room or gathering.
      "now, if you'll excuse us, we have to be getting along"
    • say politely that one is leaving.
    • (used especially by school pupils) be allowed to leave the room, especially to go to the bathroom.
      "please, can I be excused?"
noun
plural noun: excuses
ikˈskyo͞os/
  1. 1.
    a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense.
    "there can be no possible excuse for any further delay"
    synonyms: justification, defense, reason, explanation, mitigating circumstances, mitigation, vindication
    "that's no excuse for stealing"
    • a reason put forward to conceal the real reason for an action; a pretext.
      "they use their hunting as an excuse to get away from the womenfolk"
      synonyms: pretext, ostensible reason, pretense; More
      informalstory, alibi
      "an excuse to get away"
  2. 2.
    informal
    a poor or inadequate example of.
    "that pathetic excuse for a man!"
    synonyms: travesty of, poor specimen of;
    informalapology for

You have yet to show me a promise NOT kept.... Other than in timing..... Only those not kept YET... Or not being in acted exactly as your script called for. You only offer excuses for dumping Trump.

I've always been a Trump sceptic... maybe that's why I have yet to jump on either bandwagon. I don't offer excuses.... I only want to know which polices he has reversed himself on......... Softening of rhetoric, if there has been any, doesn't equal policy reversal. It's dealing with reality......

As for being lied too..... The only places I will agree he has lied.. For the most part were obvious BS at the time originally stated and thus ignored. Some of its just ignorant.. I mean bombing in a country where the military is already fighting... Isn't getting us into foreign intanglements.. AND may further be required in such places to UN intangle ourselves. Call it a lie if you want, I say well DUH. I know Assad isn't ISIS. Your right... He is threat to the people we have fighting ISIS though. If a few missiles fired at empty buildings, keeps him and his friends, out of our way.. Launch More.


60 years is long enough patience with the whole Korea issue. Time to stop waving dicks at each other.
 

HondaDavidson

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And why is it no big deal for many for Trump not to show his tax returns?
Must be a politically connected Demoncrat.


Because it always been stupid..

What I don't understand is why it's so noble to get rich being a politician. But if you got rich building businesses you must be corrupt....... I want to see the politicians taxes... Somebody is getting paid off there......... I figure if the RICH businessman isn't in JAIL already his taxes must be OK. I don't really care if they are as rich as they say.
 

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Last year he was running for office.... any income would be capital gains i bet taxed at 15%. I believe running for office is deductible or something like that.. so I'd be surprised if he paid more than 10% or so for either 2015 or 2016. But then IDK if he takes regular income anyway... the one return I have seen pretty much says NO.

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Last year he was running for office.... any income would be capital gains i bet taxed at 15%. I believe running for office is deductible or something like that.. so I'd be surprised if he paid more than 10% or so for either 2015 or 2016. But then IDK if he takes regular income anyway... the one return I have seen pretty much says NO.

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Why take regular income when you can have all your needs fullfilled out of the corporate coffers with the tax advantages involved.
Live large and be a deduction at the same time :)
 

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Why take regular income when you can have all your needs fullfilled out of the corporate coffers with the tax advantages involved.
Live large and be a deduction at the same time :)

Trump is working under d table...


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LMAO.
Mirror mirror on the wall who is the biggest moonbat of all?

Of course you had nothing to say about Obama's tax returns nor his birth certificate? Long form birth certificate LMFAO.
fucking imbecile...I guess your mom locked you in the closet a few times too many to try and drive Satan outta you....huh bobby.
 

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You have yet to show me a promise NOT kept.... Other than in timing..... Only those not kept YET... Or not being in acted exactly as your script called for. You only offer excuses for dumping Trump.

I've always been a Trump sceptic... maybe that's why I have yet to jump on either bandwagon. I don't offer excuses.... I only want to know which polices he has reversed himself on......... Softening of rhetoric, if there has been any, doesn't equal policy reversal. It's dealing with reality......

As for being lied too..... The only places I will agree he has lied.. For the most part were obvious BS at the time originally stated and thus ignored. Some of its just ignorant.. I mean bombing in a country where the military is already fighting... Isn't getting us into foreign intanglements.. AND may further be required in such places to UN intangle ourselves. Call it a lie if you want, I say well DUH. I know Assad isn't ISIS. Your right... He is threat to the people we have fighting ISIS though. If a few missiles fired at empty buildings, keeps him and his friends, out of our way.. Launch More.


60 years is long enough patience with the whole Korea issue. Time to stop waving dicks at each other.
really ....the working class of America hasn't had a real wage increase in 15 years ....maybe that should have been addressed first. I voted for Trump to, I'd like to see him keep his promises, but I keep seeing alot of back peddeling....I am not happy at all about seeing these trade concessions offered to the Chicoms....I don't for a minute think that little turd in NK wipes his own butt without orders from Bejing...
 
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You have yet to show me a promise NOT kept.... Other than in timing.....

C'mon dude. Really?

Candidate Trump said that on his first day in office, “I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator. China is a currency manipulator.”

You can watch his whole speech.


And he didn't say it just once.

I’m going to instruct my Treasury Secretary to label China, and I like China, they’re my tenant, they buy condos all the time, they’re just fine, but you know what, they’re a currency manipulator and we’re going to apply tariffs to any country that devalues its currency to gain an unfair advantage over the United States.

If you say you are going to do something and you don't do it, it's fucking lie. Tell your boss at work you will do something and then don't do it. See if he thinks it was a lie. :facepalm:
 

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I still think you're being way too dogmatic. The situation has changed and now we need China's cooperation and alliance.

And I would address your analogy as well... If I tell the boss I'm gonna run the machine now, but on my way to the machine
I have to put out a small fire in the broom closet... I think he'll be okay with that.
The situation changed because of Trumps trumpeting.
 

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I still think you're being way too dogmatic. The situation has changed and now we need China's cooperation and alliance.

And I would address your analogy as well... If I tell the boss I'm gonna run the machine now, but on my way to the machine
I have to put out a small fire in the broom closet... I think he'll be okay with that.

All right, what changed?

I'll wait while you tell me what NK is doing now, that they were not doing when Trump made his promise.

Making and testing nukes? They were doing that.
Making and testing missiles? They were doing that.
Making threats? They were doing that.

I'm waiting. :)

If you and the boss already knew there was a small fire and you told him you was going to run the machine and didn't, I don't think he'd be okay with it. Let's not forget, everybody already knew about NK. It's not like the fire started today. LOL.
 
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If memory serves NK did the same shit shortly after Obama was sworn in.
Fuck I'm a birdbrain and even I know that nothing has changed with NK.

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That little barn owl is NOW threatening "nuclear war"... with "nuclear tipped missiles".
He actually has proven nukes now... He's firing short range missiles into the sea near Japan!

The situation is faaar more urgent now. No promise has been broken.

He was doing that last year while Trump was making his promises. Nothing has changed. He has been doing it for years.
 

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All right, what changed?

I'll wait while you tell me what NK is doing now, that they were not doing when Trump made his promise.

Making and testing nukes? They were doing that.
Making and testing missiles? They were doing that.
Making threats? They were doing that.

I'm waiting. :)

If you and the boss already knew there was a small fire and you told him you was going to run the machine and didn't, I don't think he'd be okay with it. Let's not forget, everybody already knew about NK. It's not like the fire started today. LOL.
Congress isn't doing a fucking thing to help him, and now their on vacation for a few weeks. The president can't just do whatever he wants by himself, and most the repubs are traitors, their just worthless piles of shit, 95% of them.

I agreed with a lot of what you said in the past, but I'm not agreeing now.
 

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That little barn owl is NOW threatening "nuclear war"... with "nuclear tipped missiles".
He actually has proven nukes now... He's firing short range missiles into the sea near Japan!

The situation is faaar more urgent now. No promise has been broken.
I remember reading reports that he was saying that crap during obamas administration ... This is nothing new. He's been firing missiles into the sea of Japan for the past decade. Some just fall out of the sky because they are crap.
He's fuckstain that does this to try and garner ""aide"" from China.
He's also dumb as a box of clownfish poop. Sure the US -and any other industrialized nation- could turn the entire country into a parking lot over an extended weekend. Wouldn't be the smartest move ever not to mention 'making a better trade deal with China'' being billed as a bi-product is a nice way of trump to use the veiled thread as a copout for breaking yet another promise.

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Congress isn't doing a fucking thing to help him, and now their on vacation for a few weeks. The president can't just do whatever he wants by himself, and most the repubs are traitors, their just worthless piles of shit, 95% of them.

I agreed with a lot of what you said in the past, but I'm not agreeing now.

What does Congress have to do with it?

I agree that Congress can't get Oboma care repealed, a budget, tax reform or pass any worthwhile bill. But Congress doesn't have a damn thing to do with Trump changing his policies.

I don't blame Trump for a limp dick congress. I do blame Trump for his own stated policy changes.

I'm not telling other people they have to ditch Trump. I said I'm ditching Trump. I've been lied to. The only argument seems to be is if Trumps flops have a good excuse. I say they don't.
 
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What does Congress have to do with it?

I agree that Congress can't get Oboma care repealed, a budget, tax reform or pass any worthwhile bill. But Congress doesn't have a damn thing to do with Trump changing his policies.

I don't blame Trump for a limp dick congress. I do blame Trump for his own stated policy changes.

I'm not telling other people they have to ditch Trump. I said I'm ditching Trump. I've been lied to. The only argument seems to be is if Trumps flops have a good excuse. I say they don't.
He does have good excuses, not many are working with him, all the repub congress and senate should be tossed on their asses.
 
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