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Tpat591

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https://www.mail.com/news/us/513439...-coulter-spark-clash.html#.23140-stage-mmm1-2

Battle for Berkeley: Will Ann Coulter spark another clash?
BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) — The word "CANCELED" is printed across a poster of Ann Coulter's face at the University of California, Berkeley. But that appears to be wishful thinking. The campus is bracing for trouble next week, when the conservative provocateur has vowed to speak in defiance of the university's wishes. Officials, police and even the campus Republicans who invited Coulter say there is reason to fear violence in what is being called the Battle for Berkeley.

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Further into the article one leftist professor blames the violence on right wingers:
"Professor Lawrence Rosenthal, director of UC Berkeley's Center for Right-Wing Studies, said right-wing extremists see Berkeley as an easy target for attention-grabbing combat. "Berkeley is a place of longtime left-wing protest," he said. The right-wing extremists "want to make it a flashpoint."

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Ann Coulter says she's going. Stay tuned for the Battle of Berkely, v. 4
 

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https://www.mail.com/news/us/513439...-coulter-spark-clash.html#.23140-stage-mmm1-2

Battle for Berkeley: Will Ann Coulter spark another clash?
BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) — The word "CANCELED" is printed across a poster of Ann Coulter's face at the University of California, Berkeley. But that appears to be wishful thinking. The campus is bracing for trouble next week, when the conservative provocateur has vowed to speak in defiance of the university's wishes. Officials, police and even the campus Republicans who invited Coulter say there is reason to fear violence in what is being called the Battle for Berkeley.

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Further into the article one leftist professor blames the violence on right wingers:
"Professor Lawrence Rosenthal, director of UC Berkeley's Center for Right-Wing Studies, said right-wing extremists see Berkeley as an easy target for attention-grabbing combat. "Berkeley is a place of longtime left-wing protest," he said. The right-wing extremists "want to make it a flashpoint."

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Ann Coulter says she's going. Stay tuned for the Battle of Berkely, v. 4

Milo announced his new tour will include a free speech week at Berkeley with various events. He will bring activists, writers, artists, politicians, YouTubers, veterans and drag queens from across the spectrum to lecture March & party later this year.

If Berkeley refuses to cooperate in scheduling this event, he will extend the festivities to a Month long event & erect a tent city on Sproul Plaza.

https://m.facebook.com/myiannopoulo...913748138&substory_index=0&id=423006854503882


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Milo announced his new tour will include a free speech week at Berkeley with various events. He will bring activists, writers, artists, politicians, YouTubers, veterans and drag queens from across the spectrum to lecture March & party later this year.

If Berkeley refuses to cooperate in scheduling this event, he will extend the festivities to a Month long event & erect a tent city on Sproul Plaza.

https://m.facebook.com/myiannopoulo...913748138&substory_index=0&id=423006854503882


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I like Milo but you must admit he's a media whore. As long as the spotlight is on him
he'll play the Ringling Brothers of the conservative right.
The idea of Milo and drag queens representing the alt right is hilarious
and adds a certain bizarre je ne sais quoi to the theatrics.
 

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Oddly enough everyone jumps on the bandwagon of 'Trump lied again' with the carrier fleet. Much like the media who tripped themselves up by making assumptions rather than listening to what was said. There was never a date set and yes the carrier fleet IS headed to NK. Trump's quote was "We are sending an armada. Very powerful. We have submarines. Very powerful. Far more powerful than the aircraft carrier. That I can tell you."

So a bunch of triggered people who don't open their fucking ears cry foul when the carrier fleet isn't headed there immediately. What has Trump said? He won't communicate exact numbers or exact dates like previous administrations. He didn't. What else did he say? "We have submarine - far more powerful than the aircraft carrier". Which could very well mean OTHER things were in the waters near NK that WEREN'T the carrier fleet. I hate to use all caps but apparently many people have a fucking hearing problem or can't pay attention in class.

At no time did POTUS say "We are sending xyz carrier fleet and they're headed there right this fucking minute in T minus 8 days and 14hrs and 21 minutes." Never. That was on those who didn't pay attention, made their own inferences and assumptions and are now butthurt because it shows that clearly they weren't paying attention in class. It makes them look foolish so they feel the need to lash out and call Trump a liar when it fact the onus is on others for being dumbasses. Mostly the media. That's the difference between writing the news and making the news.

People can continue to hate or tell me I'm sucking Trump's dick. Maybe they have Trump's dick in their ears because they can't hear simple shit and rather than listen to what actually comes out of the man's mouth they're jerking off the media and swallowing every last drop of the 'story' rather than the facts.
 

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Oddly enough everyone jumps on the bandwagon of 'Trump lied again' with the carrier fleet. Much like the media who tripped themselves up by making assumptions rather than listening to what was said. There was never a date set and yes the carrier fleet IS headed to NK. Trump's quote was "We are sending an armada. Very powerful. We have submarines. Very powerful. Far more powerful than the aircraft carrier. That I can tell you."

So a bunch of triggered people who don't open their fucking ears cry foul when the carrier fleet isn't headed there immediately. What has Trump said? He won't communicate exact numbers or exact dates like previous administrations. He didn't. What else did he say? "We have submarine - far more powerful than the aircraft carrier". Which could very well mean OTHER things were in the waters near NK that WEREN'T the carrier fleet. I hate to use all caps but apparently many people have a fucking hearing problem or can't pay attention in class.

At no time did POTUS say "We are sending xyz carrier fleet and they're headed there right this fucking minute in T minus 8 days and 14hrs and 21 minutes." Never. That was on those who didn't pay attention, made their own inferences and assumptions and are now butthurt because it shows that clearly they weren't paying attention in class. It makes them look foolish so they feel the need to lash out and call Trump a liar when it fact the onus is on others for being dumbasses. Mostly the media. That's the difference between writing the news and making the news.

People can continue to hate or tell me I'm sucking Trump's dick. Maybe they have Trump's dick in their ears because they can't hear simple shit and rather than listen to what actually comes out of the man's mouth they're jerking off the media and swallowing every last drop of the 'story' rather than the facts.
Yep..... pure fake news..


With the NKs YEARLY Celebration week in mind. The was NOTHING done or said by The Fat Boy.... that he doesn't do or say at this time every year.... Same goes for Daddy and Grandpa...... same threats new toys......

Apply same type of analysis to tbe Syria and Afganistan things... it's the same stuff.

You and GF are argueing... none of my business.... it gets physical...... it's another story..... THAT IS WHY Syria is not a promise broken.......

People who railed against MSM fake news.... believed it. Instead if thinking about stuff for a minute.... no news report ever made was 100% acurate... no eyewitness statement of same event match 100%.

IFyou tell a lie often enough... people forget its a lie.

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I like Milo but you must admit he's a media whore. As long as the spotlight is on him
he'll play the Ringling Brothers of the conservative right.
The idea of Milo and drag queens representing the alt right is hilarious
and adds a certain bizarre je ne sais quoi to the theatrics.
you have to win the culture war in order to win the political war.....Milo is setting off bombs in the culture war.
 

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Granted this is a surprise to on one but, Berkeley Mayor is part of ANTIFA Facebook group that organized riots:


https://www.google.com/amp/www.brei...tifa-facebook-group-that-organized-riots/amp/

http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/04/berkeley-mayor-publicly-supports-violent-leftist-group/

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these are the kinds of creds you need to get elected to be Mayor of berkeley...He should be investigated by the Department of Justice as well as the Chancellor of UC Berkeley.
 

Tpat591

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these are the kinds of creds you need to get elected to be Mayor of berkeley...He should be investigated by the Department of Justice as well as the Chancellor of UC Berkeley.

Agreed. Can't understand why Sessions is pussy footing around these things. Department of Justice has been a grave disappointment with the whole Sanctuary City, Travel Ban, & Pedogate debacles.

Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised at some point in the future, but things are taking entirely too long to move forward on these fronts. Trump needs a strong backstop with Justice if he is ever expected to make any progress in office and Sessions needs to step it up big time!




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I don't think it conservatism they have an issue with at a Berkeley...... First Milo now Anne....... Berkeley is racist.... they don't like blondes who sleep with Black guys.....

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these are the kinds of creds you need to get elected to be Mayor of berkeley...He should be investigated by the Department of Justice as well as the Chancellor of UC Berkeley.

Guess it will be up to Trump Supporters injured at the 4/15 Rally to initiate a class action lawsuit against UCBerkeley, the Mayor of Berkeley, and the Berkeley Police Cheif for ordering Police to desert their posts and failing in their sworn duty to keep the peace in the streets of Berkeley. I only hope they decide to band together and do so.

Berkeley will only intervene to put down these violent anarchists if they are forced to do so because it is in their financial interests to do so to avoid litigation.


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I like Milo but you must admit he's a media whore. As long as the spotlight is on him
he'll play the Ringling Brothers of the conservative right.
The idea of Milo and drag queens representing the alt right is hilarious
and adds a certain bizarre je ne sais quoi to the theatrics.

Made all the sweeter knowing it was the Reagan Battalion with the help of the left that torpedoed his CPAC Keynote Speaking engagement, Book Deal & Career. Looking forward to their reaction to his rise from the ashes becoming even more influential in Republican Party politics as he will be more than willing to put their feet to the flame now as well.




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I don't think anybody's gonna leap into action based on a Breitbart report. ;)

Arresting sanc. city leaders is in a word... insane and would lead to impeachment and possibly civil war.

Annnnd there's no such thing as "pedogate"... sadly.

I think a call to the hotline is in order T... ext 7 ;)


Carry on then... :)

Initiating FBI investigations into the ties of the Berkeley Administrators, Mayor, Police Chief, & Department is warranted due to ongoing unrest and unwillingness of Berkeley to draw reinforcements from neighboring departments and keep their men on the street, engaged in quelling unrest during these events. ANTIFA has employed tear gas grenades, flash bangs and smoke bombs that one could argue are strictly controlled. Where are they getting them? This alone warrants ATF investigation.

Offering Federal Reinforcements to supplement Berkeley Police and supplying experienced federal commanders specializing in riot control is another option that should be undertaken.

As far as Sanctuary Cities go, they are in no uncertain terms a violation of the subordination of States to Federal Law.....Deploying FBI & ICE to Sanctuary Cities to monitor central booking & court records/scheduling and having Feds claim jurisdictions of criminal illegals proactively is well within the perview of the Federal Government. Any obstruction of that is illegal and actionable in Federal Court.

Martial Law is not necessary nor warranted for any of these tactics and you would be surprised how effective & efficient these methods will be.

Just as we saw a relatively peaceful event in Auburn because ANTIFA was unmasked & filmed before entering the event perimeter, the same tactic will undoubtedly be very effective at Berkeley as well.

Pedogate is very well documented and does exist, perhaps not to the extent that some would believe, but it does exist. It is not just child trafficking, but adult prostitution as well. Collusion, influence peddling, pay to play, perjury to congress, bribery, etc all exist and are well documented. The problem is the reluctance to prosecute the elites in power. We have all heard Comey say that Hillary's actions do not warrant prosecution, however that is a matter for the Attorney General to determine - not the FBI director.

These are not difficult concepts and your lack of understanding indicates you should examine just who should be doing the dialing.



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While I am not pleased this guy is giving ANTIFA a lesson in military tactics, I am pleased that he is also offering advice to Trump supporters in these ANTIFA engagements.

He is right in what he says. The Trump side needs to pull individual ANTIFA behind their lines to be taken to ground, unmasked and filmed so charges can be pressed. I'd go one further and recommend Zip ties or duct tape to keep them in custody under citizen's arrest until they can be turned over to authorities.

Exposing their identities and removing them from the fight should be the main goal. From there the /pol Kekistani Intelligence Agency can seek to identify and Meme the crap out of them until they no longer are interested in political activism at these events.


Felony rioting charges should take the wind out of their idiotic behavior pretty darn quick. If nothing else, taking them into custody and exposing identities will probably motivate the Berkeley Police Department to keep the sides from engaging in future so the children of wealthy donors identities are not exposed to the world for public shaming.


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I don't think anybody's gonna leap into action based on a Breitbart report. ;)

Arresting sanc. city leaders is in a word... insane and would lead to impeachment and possibly civil war.

Annnnd there's no such thing as "pedogate"... sadly.

I think a call to the hotline is in order for yous guys on Team paranoia.... ext 7 ;)


Carry on then... :)
bullshit...if a pudgy little city clerk in a backwater town of Kentucky can be jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to homosexuals, the mayors of sanctuary cities can be frog marched for ignoring to obey federal law. and no it won't lead to civil war. I think a hotline is needed for team neo-con status quo....the world is changing.
 

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Guess it will be up to Trump Supporters injured at the 4/15 Rally to initiate a class action lawsuit against UCBerkeley, the Mayor of Berkeley, and the Berkeley Police Cheif for ordering Police to desert their posts and failing in their sworn duty to keep the peace in the streets of Berkeley. I only hope they decide to band together and do so.

Berkeley will only intervene to put down these violent anarchists if they are forced to do so because it is in their financial interests to do so to avoid litigation.


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What we need is the Hells Angels, Kossacks, Mongols to provide security at Berkley.
 

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What we need is the Hells Angels, Kossacks, Mongols to provide security at Berkley.

No. We needed that on the Trump Train Campaign Trail. He won. Now he is part of the Establishment and should do everything in his power in mobilizing the full authority of the government to protect the safety of his supporters and safeguard their first amendment right of free speech by sending a clear signal to law enforcement that standing down on an unjust order while a domestic terrorist organization beats the hell out of his supporters every weekend will not be tolerated. The first step in Making America Great Again is safety in the streets & the reasonable expectation that a domestic terrorist organization will not be allowed to run roughshod over our rights with complicit support of Law Enforcement.

The fact that he isn't opposing this group is deeply concerning and and one of the main reasons that gives me doubt in his motivations making me fear he has sold out his base is in no uncertain terms unacceptable.

Rule of Law needs to be enforced in this country and forces abusing the law need opposition from the Federal Government.


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No. We needed that on the Trump Train Campaign Trail. He won. Now he is part of the Establishment and should do everything in his power in mobilizing the full authority of the government to protect the safety of his supporters and safeguard their first amendment right of free speech by sending a clear signal to law enforcement that standing down on an unjust order while a domestic terrorist organization beats the hell out of his supporters every weekend will not be tolerated. The first step in Making America Great Again is safety in the streets & the reasonable expectation that a domestic terrorist organization will not be allowed to run roughshod over our rights with complicit support of Law Enforcement.

The fact that he isn't opposing this group is deeply concerning and and one of the main reasons that gives me doubt in his motivations making me fear he has sold out his base is in no uncertain terms unacceptable.

Rule of Law needs to be enforced in this country and forces abusing the law need opposition from the Federal Government.


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Yeah I'm having less and less faith in Trump keeping a single campaign promise as the days go buy...he said he would repeal DACA he hasn't done it..he talks about a border wall when he could easily institute E-Verify for goverment contracts....once gain we have a president making it easy to be an illegal mexican in America and making it harder to be a citizen in America.
 

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So, Hazy you keep telling me to be afraid of the vast alt-right, neo-nazi hordes waiting to descend on civilization...and I'm not seeing them. they are about as scarce as hen's teeth, but as for the violent left they are in full bloom once again.....How much would you like to bet a serious number of these so-called antifa are nothing more than masked illegal muslims living in Germany and dsrupting the peaceful political process of the German people....but hey we don't have to worry about 30 million illegal mexicans doing that here.After their crushing defeat in Berkeley Antifa has already talked about trying to get BLM and the illegals to help them with their violent demonstrations.

Far-Left Antifa ‘Protestors’ Attack Populist AfD Convention In Germany; Injure Police Officers
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...fd-convention-germany-injure-police-officers/
 
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POTUS can only do so much, with all the libtard obstructionists including the 9th circus it's not as easy. That's the problem with the entrenchment of the swamp, it's not just washington it's everywhere. Even when POTUS signs a legal EO within his lawful rights it gets denied by all the leftist morons who are somewhere between the top and peeon's.

Trump could be doing what the people want him to do. He can be doing what's fundamentally right and needed for the country. Something that's a simple fix. Something he has every legal right to do. Enter the libtard obstructionists who twist the law and who exactly are THEIR checks and balances? Who is stopping the moron liberal judges from spewing their politics from the bench? Yet people will bitch Trump is ineffective. What more do they want him to do, hold a gun to the heads of judges or other obstructionists? Everything goes tits up but there's no one above the obstructionists reminding them their place and enforcing the laws. The 'laws' that are supposed to be creating a grounding effect in all of this are fundamentally broken when judges are crooked.

It's like having a room full of unruly toddlers numbering in the thousands and one adult. Good luck wrangling them. Without force and spankings simply reiterating what the 'rules' are doesn't do much. It's even harder when it's been allowed to manifest for years and years, the longer dysfunction is allowed to perpetuate the harder it is to change things. It's not making up a defense for POTUS it's simply recognizing the facts, considering the various approaches and outcomes. Of course there doesn't seem to be as much contention when there's a liberal leader in office, they don't bother with the rules and let the toddlers do whatever the hell they want. They're the 'fun' parent for the miscreants.
 

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Looking real good for LePen at 25.2%, Macron @ 21.1%. If she carries the day, the left will go into full panic mode. Rioting will be particularly violent.


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I wonder if the silent voters in France are going to do a Trump Thump on Macron....
 

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So, Hazy you keep telling me to be afraid of the vast alt-right, neo-nazi hordes waiting to descend on civilization...and I'm not seeing them. they are about as scarce as hen's teeth, but as for the violent left they are in full bloom once again.....How much would you like to bet a serious number of these so-called antifa are nothing more than masked illegal muslims living in Germany and dsrupting the peaceful political process of the German people....but hey we don't have to worry about 30 million illegal mexicans doing that here.After their crushing defeat in Berkeley Antifa has already talked about trying to get BLM and the illegals to help them with their violent demonstrations.

Far-Left Antifa ‘Protestors’ Attack Populist AfD Convention In Germany; Injure Police Officers
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...fd-convention-germany-injure-police-officers/
Bullshit, I haven't told you to be afraid of any alt right wingers.
What I said was that they do exist.
Moreover, I DID NOT SAY "HORDES". However a small, well armed and trained, affinity group dedicated to
(fill in the blank) ______________________ can indeed wreak havoc, moreso than a shitload of black clad leftists
OR a shitload of drunken old men wearing blindfolds who need to ignore reality...

If you really think there are no neo nazis fighting in Berkeley or that those "Proud Boys" are all good old
conservative patriots you're not paying attention, not even to some of the videos Pat and even you have posted here.

Now, I know that depending on the alcohol content in your system you often have to deal with comprehension handicaps
so I'll spell it out or you in EASY words..
I'm not talking about people who subscribe to infowars, Breibart, 4 or 8 chan.
I am talking about people who subscribe to American Renaissance
Groups like the various "Little Europes"
Like:
American Nazi Party – United States
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas – United States
Aryan Guard – Canada
Aryan Nations – United States and Canada
Hammerskins – United States and Canada
Heritage Front – Canada
National Alliance – United States
National Socialist Movement – United States
National Socialist Vanguard – United States
National Vanguard – United States
NSDAP/AO – United States
Resistance Records
White Aryan Resistance
Nationalist Front of Mexico[1] – Mexico

I'll spare your old tired eyes and leave out the rest of the world's anti-semitic,
nationalist socialists but they exist all over, Belgium, the Netherlands, Serbia, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Russia, Spain,
hell even in Asia, ETC.

Here, knock yerself out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neo-Nazi_organizations_in_the_United_States
Here's some more stuff you won't absorb even if you read it: https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
More? https://geopolitics.co/2015/05/14/1000-neo-nazi-groups-legally-operating-in-us/

So, there are no alt right wingers just waiting to pounce? LOL

Dude, for reasons I can't get into I'm privy to lot's of info
I can not tell you.
But that I can't tell you OR that you have your head deeply in the sand..or someplace
does not mean that it doesn't exist.

Now I'll AGAIN explain to you what I have been saying.
Fighting in the streets will not accomplish jack shit for either side, antifa or alt right
OTHER than cause the big guys with the big guns and permission to shoot to kill
to start shooting to kill and to do so indiscriminately.

In the words of that author who you attempted to discredit as a neocon the other day:
David A. French, writing for National Review, called alt-right proponents "wanna-be fascists" and bemoaned their entry into the national political conversation. Benjamin Welton, writing for The Weekly Standard, described the alt-right as a "highly heterogeneous force" that "turns the left's moralism on its head and makes it a badge of honor to be called 'racist,' 'homophobic,' and 'sexist."

They are out here and it doesn't take a whole lot of them.

 

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Here's your "Proud Boys" for ya:
The Proud Boys are a fraternal organization founded on a system of beliefs and values of minimal government, maximum freedom, anti-political correctness, anti-racial guilt, pro-gun rights, anti-Drug War, closed borders, anti-masturbation, venerating entrepreneurs, venerating housewives, and reinstating a spirit of Western chauvinism during an age of globalism and multiculturalism.

The above is from the Proud Boys Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/pg/proudboysunite/about/?ref=page_internal

You read it, now put your dick back in your pants.
 

Tpat591

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Here's your "Proud Boys" for ya:
The Proud Boys are a fraternal organization founded on a system of beliefs and values of minimal government, maximum freedom, anti-political correctness, anti-racial guilt, pro-gun rights, anti-Drug War, closed borders, anti-masturbation, venerating entrepreneurs, venerating housewives, and reinstating a spirit of Western chauvinism during an age of globalism and multiculturalism.

The above is from the Proud Boys Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/pg/proudboysunite/about/?ref=page_internal

You read it, now put your dick back in your pants.

I had read about the Proud Boys veneration of the housewife and chauvinistic tendencies and was a bit troubled by the term, however I consider that much more of an anti-feminist activist SJW rebellious stance that was poorly worded than anything else.

I do not believe they are a group that would oppose female empowerment per se so much as a group opposing unshaven, unwashed, man hating, lesbianistic feminist groups from feeling justified imposing theirs on everyone else.

They seem much too respectful and took great pains to protect Lauren Southern at the Berkeley event. I do not put Lauren in the barefoot & pregnant housewife who is not allowed to think role, and do not think for a moment that she would waste a second in calling out the hypocrisy of the Proud Boy charter if she believed it was meant as anything more than a trigger for Femi-Nazis.

In other words I would not get too worried about that particular term and consider it a statement as a defense of traditional American values and stating that men can be chauvanistic pigs by nature & aren't gonna apologize for it.


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Bullshit, I haven't told you to be afraid of any alt right wingers.
What I said was that they do exist.
Moreover, I DID NOT SAY "HORDES". However a small, well armed and trained, affinity group dedicated to
(fill in the blank) ______________________ can indeed wreak havoc, moreso than a shitload of black clad leftists
OR a shitload of drunken old men wearing blindfolds who need to ignore reality...

If you really think there are no neo nazis fighting in Berkeley or that those "Proud Boys" are all good old
conservative patriots you're not paying attention, not even to some of the videos Pat and even you have posted here.

Now, I know that depending on the alcohol content in your system you often have to deal with comprehension handicaps
so I'll spell it out or you in EASY words..
I'm not talking about people who subscribe to infowars, Breibart, 4 or 8 chan.
I am talking about people who subscribe to American Renaissance
Groups like the various "Little Europes"
Like:
American Nazi Party – United States
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas – United States
Aryan Guard – Canada
Aryan Nations – United States and Canada
Hammerskins – United States and Canada
Heritage Front – Canada
National Alliance – United States
National Socialist Movement – United States
National Socialist Vanguard – United States
National Vanguard – United States
NSDAP/AO – United States
Resistance Records
White Aryan Resistance
Nationalist Front of Mexico[1] – Mexico

I'll spare your old tired eyes and leave out the rest of the world's anti-semitic,
nationalist socialists but they exist all over, Belgium, the Netherlands, Serbia, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Russia, Spain,
hell even in Asia, ETC.

Here, knock yerself out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neo-Nazi_organizations_in_the_United_States
Here's some more stuff you won't absorb even if you read it: https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
More? https://geopolitics.co/2015/05/14/1000-neo-nazi-groups-legally-operating-in-us/

So, there are no alt right wingers just waiting to pounce? LOL

Dude, for reasons I can't get into I'm privy to lot's of info
I can not tell you.
But that I can't tell you OR that you have your head deeply in the sand..or someplace
does not mean that it doesn't exist.

Now I'll AGAIN explain to you what I have been saying.
Fighting in the streets will not accomplish jack shit for either side, antifa or alt right
OTHER than cause the big guys with the big guns and permission to shoot to kill
to start shooting to kill and to do so indiscriminately.

In the words of that author who you attempted to discredit as a neocon the other day:
David A. French, writing for National Review, called alt-right proponents "wanna-be fascists" and bemoaned their entry into the national political conversation. Benjamin Welton, writing for The Weekly Standard, described the alt-right as a "highly heterogeneous force" that "turns the left's moralism on its head and makes it a badge of honor to be called 'racist,' 'homophobic,' and 'sexist."

They are out here and it doesn't take a whole lot of them.
Bullshit, I haven't told you to be afraid of any alt right wingers.
What I said was that they do exist.
Moreover, I DID NOT SAY "HORDES". However a small, well armed and trained, affinity group dedicated to
(fill in the blank) ______________________ can indeed wreak havoc, moreso than a shitload of black clad leftists
OR a shitload of drunken old men wearing blindfolds who need to ignore reality...

If you really think there are no neo nazis fighting in Berkeley or that those "Proud Boys" are all good old
conservative patriots you're not paying attention, not even to some of the videos Pat and even you have posted here.

Now, I know that depending on the alcohol content in your system you often have to deal with comprehension handicaps
so I'll spell it out or you in EASY words..
I'm not talking about people who subscribe to infowars, Breibart, 4 or 8 chan.
I am talking about people who subscribe to American Renaissance
Groups like the various "Little Europes"
Like:
American Nazi Party – United States
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas – United States
Aryan Guard – Canada
Aryan Nations – United States and Canada
Hammerskins – United States and Canada
Heritage Front – Canada
National Alliance – United States
National Socialist Movement – United States
National Socialist Vanguard – United States
National Vanguard – United States
NSDAP/AO – United States
Resistance Records
White Aryan Resistance
Nationalist Front of Mexico[1] – Mexico

I'll spare your old tired eyes and leave out the rest of the world's anti-semitic,
nationalist socialists but they exist all over, Belgium, the Netherlands, Serbia, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Russia, Spain,
hell even in Asia, ETC.

Here, knock yerself out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neo-Nazi_organizations_in_the_United_States
Here's some more stuff you won't absorb even if you read it: https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
More? https://geopolitics.co/2015/05/14/1000-neo-nazi-groups-legally-operating-in-us/

So, there are no alt right wingers just waiting to pounce? LOL

Dude, for reasons I can't get into I'm privy to lot's of info
I can not tell you.
But that I can't tell you OR that you have your head deeply in the sand..or someplace
does not mean that it doesn't exist.

Now I'll AGAIN explain to you what I have been saying.
Fighting in the streets will not accomplish jack shit for either side, antifa or alt right
OTHER than cause the big guys with the big guns and permission to shoot to kill
to start shooting to kill and to do so indiscriminately.

In the words of that author who you attempted to discredit as a neocon the other day:
David A. French, writing for National Review, called alt-right proponents "wanna-be fascists" and bemoaned their entry into the national political conversation. Benjamin Welton, writing for The Weekly Standard, described the alt-right as a "highly heterogeneous force" that "turns the left's moralism on its head and makes it a badge of honor to be called 'racist,' 'homophobic,' and 'sexist."

They are out here and it doesn't take a whole lot of them.
You still trying to pass of that neo-con shit rag the national review as some sort of legitimate publication...the National Review who published articles with such intelligent article calling for the white working class communities to Die such as this.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...ite-working-class-communities-deserve-to-die/

and if you think the proud boys are neo nazis you've been trolled like shia la douche....sure there are legitamte neo nazi movments in Europe mostly, but they fade into insignificane alongside the massive support leftist extreme groups in America have...there is no so callled neo-nazi movment in the US that has anywhere near the legitamacy given to say BLM, The new black panthers, the nation of Islam, the muslim brotherhood, antifa and dozens of other leftists groups that can speak on any campus in America with impunity. The rhetoric you use is the same that antifa uses...they exhume the body of a white nationalist they found who died in 1932, and they use it to justify terrorizing anyone who is right of Castro. and use it as justification to stifle speech, thought and use violence against them...my point isn't that there aren't far right extremists my point is that their power is non-existent alongside the lefts.
 

HazyShades

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What, me worry?
Those Proud Boys smell a lot like rednecks with swastika tats for my taste.
I relate to most of manly stuff but when any group
stops to consider disliking masturbation as an issue it indeed makes me wonder about their
religious beliefs.

Look, I'm not naive or idealistic, those days are long gone.
On forums and usenet we have the adage, "Don't feed the trolls"

Think of Antifa as a bunch of spoiled brat trolls. No, I'm not making them out to be junior varsity like Obummer said of Isis.
Armed idiots should be lethally put down.
But, what if Antifa gave a protest and nobody came?
What would they do? Burn some insured stuff?
They want media coverage.

Guys like the Proud Boys and ladies like Lauren are wanting attention just like the Antifa kids.
I'm taking bets that aside from a couple of nuts when the shit REALLY hits the fan the proud alt right
will be watching it on TV from a safe room.
 

pulsevape

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Member For 4 Years
Here's your "Proud Boys" for ya:
The Proud Boys are a fraternal organization founded on a system of beliefs and values of minimal government, maximum freedom, anti-political correctness, anti-racial guilt, pro-gun rights, anti-Drug War, closed borders, anti-masturbation, venerating entrepreneurs, venerating housewives, and reinstating a spirit of Western chauvinism during an age of globalism and multiculturalism.

The above is from the Proud Boys Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/pg/proudboysunite/about/?ref=page_internal

You read it, now put your dick back in your pants.
Yeah I'm not seeing anything in there about death camps,and euginics....stop clutching your preals like a sandy vagged old woman.
 

HazyShades

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Member For 4 Years
You still trying to pass of that neo-con shit rag the national review as some sort of legitimate publication...the National Review who published articles with such intelligent article calling for the white working class communities to Die such as this.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...ite-working-class-communities-deserve-to-die/

and if you think the proud boys are neo nazis you've been trolled like shia la douche....sure there are legitamte neo nazi movments in Europe mostly, but they fade into insignificane alongside the massive support leftist extreme groups in America have...there is no so callled neo-nazi movment in the US that has anywhere near the legitamacy given to say BLM, The new black panthers, the nation of Islam, the muslim brotherhood, antifa and dozens of other leftists groups that can speak on any campus in America with impunity. The rhetoric you use is the same that antifa uses...they exhume the body of a white nationalist they found who died in 1932, and they use it to justify terrorizing anyone who is right of Castro. and use it as justification to stifle speech, thought and use violence against them...my point isn't that there aren't far right extremists my point is that their power is non-existent alongside the lefts.

You're just full of strawmen. Why don't you put some more words in my mouth?

National Review posts many articles with which I disagree. But so does Brietbart.
However I respect the EDUCATED OPINION of several of the authors who write for NR.
I see nothing in the rules that demands I vote the party ticket.
My being a constitutionalist former Trump supporter does not demand that I approve of police brutality
or neo-nazis. The fact that I don't believe that two rights make a wrong does not mean I support Antifa or the Proud Boys or don't.

If you prefer to think that there are no neo-nazis then you did not read any of the links I provided
or you didn't understand the information in those links.
Should I even bother to mention that there agent provocateurs at work and some of them carry US Flags?
 

pulsevape

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Member For 4 Years
What, me worry?
Those Proud Boys smell a lot like rednecks with swastika tats for my taste.
I relate to most of manly stuff but when any group
stops to consider disliking masturbation as an issue it indeed makes me wonder about their
religious beliefs.

Look, I'm not naive or idealistic, those days are long gone.
On forums and usenet we have the adage, "Don't feed the trolls"

Think of Antifa as a bunch of spoiled brat trolls. No, I'm not making them out to be junior varsity like Obummer said of Isis.
Armed idiots should be lethally put down.
But, what if Antifa gave a protest and nobody came?
What would they do? Burn some insured stuff?
They want media coverage.

Guys like the Proud Boys and ladies like Lauren are wanting attention just like the Antifa kids.
I'm taking bets that aside from a couple of nuts when the shit REALLY hits the fan the proud alt right
will be watching it on TV from a safe room.
You just keep doging ther real violence antifa has committed you doge the busted heads they've given you keep minimalizing the beatings, you keep ignoring the number of lectures they've been able to shut down, you ignore the fact the Mayor of Berkeley is a member and has used the power of the state to terrorize the public and then on the other hand you blow the threat of the right way out of poportion.
 

HazyShades

Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Yeah I'm not seeing anything in there about death camps,and euginics....stop clutching your preals like a sandy vagged old woman.
Holy shit, learn to spell.
Those Proud Boys are only the visible cream of the white nationalist crop.
Dig deeper and you may find..nah, never mind. You won't find shit.
 

Tpat591

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Member For 4 Years
What, me worry?
Those Proud Boys smell a lot like rednecks with swastika tats for my taste.
I relate to most of manly stuff but when any group
stops to consider disliking masturbation as an issue it indeed makes me wonder about their
religious beliefs.

Look, I'm not naive or idealistic, those days are long gone.
On forums and usenet we have the adage, "Don't feed the trolls"

Think of Antifa as a bunch of spoiled brat trolls. No, I'm not making them out to be junior varsity like Obummer said of Isis.
Armed idiots should be lethally put down.
But, what if Antifa gave a protest and nobody came?
What would they do? Burn some insured stuff?
They want media coverage.

Guys like the Proud Boys and ladies like Lauren are wanting attention just like the Antifa kids.
I'm taking bets that aside from a couple of nuts when the shit REALLY hits the fan the proud alt right
will be watching it on TV from a safe room.

Proud Boys have a large contingent of Vets who might not be pleased if they have to take up arms and spill blood in the streets in a real shooting war should it come, but make no mistake, they are armed & willing should it become necessary & are smart enough. & respectful enough of humanity not to go there unless it is in measured response to like behavior from the opposition.


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pulsevape

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Member For 4 Years
You're just full of strawmen. Why don't you put some more words in my mouth?

National Review posts many articles with which I disagree. But so does Brietbart.
However I respect the EDUCATED OPINION of several of the authors who write for NR.
I see nothing in the rules that demands I vote the party ticket.
My being a constitutionalist former Trump supporter does not demand that I approve of police brutality
or neo-nazis. The fact that I don't believe that two rights make a wrong does not mean I support Antifa or the Proud Boys or don't.

If you prefer to think that there are no neo-nazis then you did not read any of the links I provided
or you didn't understand the information in those links.
Should I even bother to mention that there agent provocateurs at work and some of them carry US Flags?
any rag that publishes shit like that is illegitamate.
 

HazyShades

Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
You just keep doging ther real violence antifa has committed you doge the busted heads they've given you keep minimalizing the beatings, you keep ignoring the number of lectures they've been able to shut down, you ignore the fact the Mayor of Berkeley is a member and has used the power of the state to terrorize the public and then on the other hand you blow the threat of the right way out of poportion.
No, you're putting words in my mouth because you can't argue the facts.
I've not minimalized any beatings.
I've said that to think one can counter said terrorism outside of the boundaries of law makes one as much of a terrorist as your antagonist.
I've further said that the above plays right into the hands of the people you really have to worry about.
I've further said that those people that you really have to worry about are not
Antifa or alt right or even neo-naZIS, BUT THAT THE LATTER IS INDEED A VARIABLE TO CONSIDER.
 
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