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Holy shit, learn to spell.
Those Proud Boys are only the visible cream of the white nationalist crop.
Dig deeper and you may find..nah, never mind. You won't find shit.
Oh fuck grandmother why stop there...the fucking Vets are probablly the visible cream of the nazis, and the Christian are the visible cream of the nazis, and the fucking boyscouts, and the rotary club, and Milo, and Ann Coulter, and The RNC, and the Knight of Colombus Oh yeah hell yeah they are fucking everywhere dude...I have lived to know 4 generations of my family we are what people call white, though we are mixed native bloods....of those 4 generations of men of great grandparents,great uncles of which there were 15 or 20, of grand fathers, of fathers ,Uncles,cousins, brothers...not one single person has every mentioned ever even in passing of actually ever having met a white nationalist, not one of my white friends have..On a personal note...I have met more white men in my lifetime who have seen Bigfoot, than have seen in real life a Nazi, or Klansman.
But I have personally been threatend with and have had violence directed toward me by...Union Thugs,illegal aliens,and socialists at political rallies.It was people like my ancestors who fought and died and defeated the Nazis I doubt that their descendents are going to suddenly embrace the Nazis.

tell you what when I see Trump inviting some little 15 year old white boy into the whitehouse... who brought a solar powered burning cross to school, like Obama invited a muslim 15 year old who brought in a a faux suitcase bomb to school...then I'll give your fears some credence.
 
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Oh fuck grandmother why stop there...the fucking Vets are probablly the visible cream of the nazis, and the Christian are the visible cream of the nazis, and the fucking boyscouts, and the rotary club, and Milo, and Ann Coulter, and The RNC, and the Knight of Colombus Oh yeah hell yeah they are fucking everywhere dude...I have lived to know 4 generations of my family we are what people call white, though we are mixed native bloods....of those 4 generations of men of great grandparents,great uncles of which there were 15 or 20, of grand fathers, of fathers ,Uncles,cousins, brothers...not one single person has every mentioned ever even in passing of actually ever having met a white nationalist, not one of my white friends have..On a personal note...I have met more white men in my lifetime who have seen Bigfoot, than have seen in real life a Nazi, or Klansman.
But I have personally been threatend with and have had violence directed toward me by...Union members,illegal aliens,and socialists.

All of the above is because you've led a sheltered life, farm boy.
Knights of Columbus...LOL I spell that Irish Catholic KKK.

Ann Coulter is a dumb piece of ass. Try actually reading her books.
The Proud Boys and most of those guys out fighting for some cause or another
be it free speech or the right to suck dick
are nothing but a bunch of people with nothing better to do.

If they all had jobs to go to they wouldn't be there.
Oh wait, the Proud Boys are vets..So? Most of the males I know and many of the women are vets also.
The general consensus among everybody is that everybody got suckered into working for the Englishman.
Everybody got taken for a ride to 'Nam, Campuchea, or Iraq, or Afghanistan
in order to make somebody other than themselves richer while they can't even get VA benefits.

IF I ever go somewhere and get attacked I'll deal with it
but I'm not going anywhere where I might get atacked 'cause I have better shit to do.

You wanna worry about it, fine.
 

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I'll take the Proud Boys over this group any day of the week



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All of the above is because you've led a sheltered life, farm boy.
Knights of Columbus...LOL I spell that Irish Catholic KKK.

Ann Coulter is a dumb piece of ass. Try actually reading her books.
The Proud Boys and most of those guys out fighting for some cause or another
be it free speech or the right to suck dick
are nothing but a bunch of people with nothing better to do.

If they all had jobs to go to they wouldn't be there.
Oh wait, the Proud Boys are vets..So? Most of the males I know and many of the women are vets also.
The general consensus among everybody is that everybody got suckered into working for the Englishman.
Everybody got taken for a ride to 'Nam, Campuchea, or Iraq, or Afghanistan
in order to make somebody other than themselves richer while they can't even get VA benefits.

IF I ever go somewhere and get attacked I'll deal with it
but I'm not going anywhere where I might get atacked 'cause I have better shit to do.

You wanna worry about it, fine.
first off you never in your life ever had sex with a woman as beautiful or smart as Ann Coulter..we all know that...in your wet dreams.sour fucking grapes there bohyo.lots of dumb piece of ass graduate with law degrees from the Ivy league and clerk for a Suprme Court judge ..
off the farm..well I was raised in a rural enviroment but I lived in SF for 12 years and in Oakland CA, for 25 years..an area where 140 languages are spoken and one of the most cultural diverse spots on planet earth..I've traveld in Mexico south america and europe, my first childhood playmates couldn't speak English..So no, actually I've gotten to experince a pretty broad spectrum of life... .......and if you think the knights of Columbus are the KKK you are a stupid fucking WASP asshole...who knows about as much about the knights of columbus as you do about women....and you display the kind of bigotry and pig ignorance the Irish have experinced since the day they came to America...you don't know shit bout the "proud Boys" and your just talking out of your ass and trying to make people think you do.as for not going anywhere where you might get attacked...that may account for why you stayed on the farm.You just don't get it...if the left keeps using antifa to stifle speech you won't be able speak your own mind once you step off your front porch,
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

Proud Boys is a North American social-political conservative movement founded in 2016 by libertarian/conservative podcaster Gavin McInnes, who describes it as a "pro-Western fraternal organization" for men who "refuse to apologize for creating the modern world."[1] The group takes its name from the showtune "Proud of Your Boy," a song introduced in the 2011 stage-show version of Disney's Aladdin.[2][3] Proud Boys are supposed to practice abstinence from masturbation.

New York University
In February 2017, McInnes arrived at New York University to make a speech, accompanied by a group of Proud Boys. Minor violence broke out between Proud Boys and anti-fascist protestors, and the NYPD said that eleven people (from both sides) faced criminal charges. One Proud Boy encouraged others to fight the “faggots wearing black that won’t let us in,” and was later arrested for punching a reporter from DNAinfo.[4][5]

Berkeley march
A pro-Trump march in Berkeley on 4 March 2017 resulted in seven arrests and 10 injuries; though some attending were identified as Proud Boys, prior to the event McInnes disavowed any link to the march, tweeting: “#ProudBoys never agreed to be part of this march. I'm out”.[6][7
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

Proud Boys is a North American social-political conservative movement founded in 2016 by libertarian/conservative podcaster Gavin McInnes, who describes it as a "pro-Western fraternal organization" for men who "refuse to apologize for creating the modern world."[1] The group takes its name from the showtune "Proud of Your Boy," a song introduced in the 2011 stage-show version of Disney's Aladdin.[2][3] Proud Boys are supposed to practice abstinence from masturbation.

New York University
In February 2017, McInnes arrived at New York University to make a speech, accompanied by a group of Proud Boys. Minor violence broke out between Proud Boys and anti-fascist protestors, and the NYPD said that eleven people (from both sides) faced criminal charges. One Proud Boy encouraged others to fight the “faggots wearing black that won’t let us in,” and was later arrested for punching a reporter from DNAinfo.[4][5]

Berkeley march
A pro-Trump march in Berkeley on 4 March 2017 resulted in seven arrests and 10 injuries; though some attending were identified as Proud Boys, prior to the event McInnes disavowed any link to the march, tweeting: “#ProudBoys never agreed to be part of this march. I'm out”.[6][7
McInnes was accused of antisemitism in March 2017 when, during a trip to Israel with The Rebel, McInnes made controversial comments about the Holocaust and also alleged Jews of being responsible for the Holodomor and the Treaty of Versailles. He subsequently claimed his comments were meant to be humourous. McInnes also produced a satirical video for Rebel called "Ten Things I Hate about Jews", later retitled "Ten Things I Hate About Israel", which also resulted in accusations of antisemitism.[45][46][6][47]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes
Personal life
In 2005, McInnes married Manhattan-based publicist and consultant Emily Jendrisak,[10] who is of Native American descent.[48] McInnes said in 2013 that after being an atheist most of his life, fatherhood made him believe in God and he became Catholic. He has three children.[49]

McInnes adheres to libertarianism. He has referred to himself as a "western chauvinist" and started a men's organization called Proud Boys who swear their allegiance to this cause[50][51] In a 2003 New York Times profile, McInnes stated: "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, English-speaking way of life." [52] He previously wrote for VDARE, a white nationalist website.[53][54]

As a Catholic, McInnes is a member of the Knights of Columbus.[55]

A media whore by any other name..if y'all wanna call the dude and his club patriots
that's your call.
I prefer to call shovels shovels...

If you really think these guys prefer Pepe you ain't *Chan.
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

Proud Boys is a North American social-political conservative movement founded in 2016 by libertarian/conservative podcaster Gavin McInnes, who describes it as a "pro-Western fraternal organization" for men who "refuse to apologize for creating the modern world."[1] The group takes its name from the showtune "Proud of Your Boy," a song introduced in the 2011 stage-show version of Disney's Aladdin.[2][3] Proud Boys are supposed to practice abstinence from masturbation.

New York University
In February 2017, McInnes arrived at New York University to make a speech, accompanied by a group of Proud Boys. Minor violence broke out between Proud Boys and anti-fascist protestors, and the NYPD said that eleven people (from both sides) faced criminal charges. One Proud Boy encouraged others to fight the “faggots wearing black that won’t let us in,” and was later arrested for punching a reporter from DNAinfo.[4][5]

Berkeley march
A pro-Trump march in Berkeley on 4 March 2017 resulted in seven arrests and 10 injuries; though some attending were identified as Proud Boys, prior to the event McInnes disavowed any link to the march, tweeting: “#ProudBoys never agreed to be part of this march. I'm out”.[6][7
you dumbshit...google is not your friend...Gavin McInnes is hardly a sexual prude he was in a punk rock band, and as for being a white nationalist Gavin McInnes is married to a woman who is proudly mixed blood with the First Nations people as they call themselves in Canada....hardly something a Cream of White Nationalisim would do..
 
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McInnes was accused of antisemitism in March 2017 when, during a trip to Israel with The Rebel, McInnes made controversial comments about the Holocaust and also alleged Jews of being responsible for the Holodomor and the Treaty of Versailles. He subsequently claimed his comments were meant to be humourous. McInnes also produced a satirical video for Rebel called "Ten Things I Hate about Jews", later retitled "Ten Things I Hate About Israel", which also resulted in accusations of antisemitism.[45][46][6][47]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes
Personal life
In 2005, McInnes married Manhattan-based publicist and consultant Emily Jendrisak,[10] who is of Native American descent.[48] McInnes said in 2013 that after being an atheist most of his life, fatherhood made him believe in God and he became Catholic. He has three children.[49]

McInnes adheres to libertarianism. He has referred to himself as a "western chauvinist" and started a men's organization called Proud Boys who swear their allegiance to this cause[50][51] In a 2003 New York Times profile, McInnes stated: "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, English-speaking way of life." [52] He previously wrote for VDARE, a white nationalist website.[53][54]

As a Catholic, McInnes is a member of the Knights of Columbus.[55]

A media whore by any other name..if y'all wanna call the dude and his club patriots
that's your call.
I prefer to call shovels shovels...

If you really think these guys prefer Pepe you ain't *Chan.
you don't know shit about Gavin Mc Innes you twat you're just posting hit pieces from leftist SJW rags....you're hilarious....HE"S A FUCKING COMEDIAN....as for him being a Western Chauvinist yeah so am I...Our consitution didn't spring from America ..it is the culmination of Western Philosiphy and thought....It gets funnier..you're quoting the fucking NYT the absolute queen of fake news for God sakes, and you do realize that Wikipedia is not in fact the Encyclopidea Brittannica right. and you top it all off with Rebdl magazine.....WTF couldn't you find a hit piece from Mother Jones..or the American Communist Party.
 
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McInnes was accused of antisemitism in March 2017 when, during a trip to Israel with The Rebel, McInnes made controversial comments about the Holocaust and also alleged Jews of being responsible for the Holodomor and the Treaty of Versailles. He subsequently claimed his comments were meant to be humourous. McInnes also produced a satirical video for Rebel called "Ten Things I Hate about Jews", later retitled "Ten Things I Hate About Israel", which also resulted in accusations of antisemitism.[45][46][6][47]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes
Personal life
In 2005, McInnes married Manhattan-based publicist and consultant Emily Jendrisak,[10] who is of Native American descent.[48] McInnes said in 2013 that after being an atheist most of his life, fatherhood made him believe in God and he became Catholic. He has three children.[49]

McInnes adheres to libertarianism. He has referred to himself as a "western chauvinist" and started a men's organization called Proud Boys who swear their allegiance to this cause[50][51] In a 2003 New York Times profile, McInnes stated: "I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, English-speaking way of life." [52] He previously wrote for VDARE, a white nationalist website.[53][54]

As a Catholic, McInnes is a member of the Knights of Columbus.[55]

A media whore by any other name..if y'all wanna call the dude and his club patriots
that's your call.
I prefer to call shovels shovels...

If you really think these guys prefer Pepe you ain't *Chan.
see it's stupid shit like this that makes it hard to take your nazi hunting seriously...it's fucking ludicrous...to people like you anybody and everybody is a nazi...there's no difference between Mel Gibson, or Gavin Mc Innes, or Mother Theresa, or Goebbels.....buy a black mask and a black hoodie and join your brothers in the struggle.
 

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LOL..Mel Gibson is a good Catholic. Unfortunately he sometimes drinks too much and runs his mouth.
However, he's an actor and I'm only interested in his talent and credibility as an actor.
Otherwise I don't care what Mel thinks.

I don't care what you think either so you know what you can do with your insults.
I'm not nazi hunting. But I do know who is who and you don't.
That you are ignorant doesn't mean I have to be.
That I disagree with your sophomoric opinion doesn't mean that I am on the "other side" and should get a black mask and hoodie.
What it means is that unlike you I can see several moves ahead and realize
EVERYBODY, antifa, proud boyz, alt milos, ETC are being set up.

I don't expect armchair warriors aching for a dose of testosterone
to understand that it's a game that no side wins because winning isn't the goal.

Now see:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/11-arrests-at-nyu-protest-over-speech-by-proud-boys-leader/

11 arrests at NYU protest over speech by ‘Proud Boys’ leader
NEW YORK (AP) — Fights broke out when the founder of a far-right men’s organization appeared at New York University, leading to 11 arrests — the second time this week that violence halted a controversial speech at a U.S. university.

The speaker, Gavin McInnes, was hit by pepper spray during the fracas that erupted when protesters turned up to disrupt his speech Thursday night in New York City, school officials said.

McInnes is the founder of a group called the “Proud Boys.” He dubs himself a “western chauvinist,” uses racial epithets in his essays and has argued that women make less money because they are less ambitious than men.

McInnes was invited to speak by the NYU College Republicans. His appearance sparked a protest by a group called the NYU Anti-Fascists.

NYU spokesman John Beckman says McInnes tried to continue but stopped when protesters rushed into the room and shouted him down.

Police said those arrested face charges including criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.

McInnes was a co-founder of Vice Media. He and Vice severed ties in 2008.

On Wednesday, protesters hurled smoke bombs, broke windows and started a bonfire before Milo Yiannopoulos, an editor of Breitbart News, appeared at the University of California at Berkeley. The violence led officials there to cancel his talk out of safety concerns.
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McInnes is Canadian..an actor, comic, writer.
Articles like the above excite sheep. His job is exciting sheep and selling them himself and t-shirts/memberships.
I only wonder how much McInnes gets paid per speech. It's a fucking racket
and he's a fucking racketeer. You wanna make him an American hero?
That's cool, but you don't have to get so huffy..
 

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LOL..Mel Gibson is a good Catholic. Unfortunately he sometimes drinks too much and runs his mouth.
However, he's an actor and I'm only interested in his talent and credibility as an actor.
Otherwise I don't care what Mel thinks.

I don't care what you think either so you know what you can do with your insults.
I'm not nazi hunting. But I do know who is who and you don't.
That you are ignorant doesn't mean I have to be.
That I disagree with your sophomoric opinion doesn't mean that I am on the "other side" and should get a black mask and hoodie.
What it means is that unlike you I can see several moves ahead and realize
EVERYBODY, antifa, proud boyz, alt milos, ETC are being set up.

I don't expect armchair warriors aching for a dose of testosterone
to understand that it's a game that no side wins because winning isn't the goal.

Now see:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/11-arrests-at-nyu-protest-over-speech-by-proud-boys-leader/

11 arrests at NYU protest over speech by ‘Proud Boys’ leader
NEW YORK (AP) — Fights broke out when the founder of a far-right men’s organization appeared at New York University, leading to 11 arrests — the second time this week that violence halted a controversial speech at a U.S. university.

The speaker, Gavin McInnes, was hit by pepper spray during the fracas that erupted when protesters turned up to disrupt his speech Thursday night in New York City, school officials said.

McInnes is the founder of a group called the “Proud Boys.” He dubs himself a “western chauvinist,” uses racial epithets in his essays and has argued that women make less money because they are less ambitious than men.

McInnes was invited to speak by the NYU College Republicans. His appearance sparked a protest by a group called the NYU Anti-Fascists.

NYU spokesman John Beckman says McInnes tried to continue but stopped when protesters rushed into the room and shouted him down.

Police said those arrested face charges including criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.

McInnes was a co-founder of Vice Media. He and Vice severed ties in 2008.

On Wednesday, protesters hurled smoke bombs, broke windows and started a bonfire before Milo Yiannopoulos, an editor of Breitbart News, appeared at the University of California at Berkeley. The violence led officials there to cancel his talk out of safety concerns.
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McInnes is Canadian..an actor, comic, writer.
Articles like the above excite sheep. His job is exciting sheep and selling them himself and t-shirts/memberships.
I only wonder how much McInnes gets paid per speech. It's a fucking racket
and he's a fucking racketeer. You wanna make him an American hero?
That's cool, but you don't have to get so huffy..
Again you post something that proves my point, because you in fact know nothing about Gavin McInnes you post something you THINK incriminates him..it doesn't...videos of what happened have been on youtube for many months if you bothered to view them rather than relying on fake news and slanderous hit pieces pumped out by leftist propoganda mills you'd know what happened....McInnes was invited to give a talk, he knew that he would be attacked because antifa has openly said they were going to attack him. He would not be silinced and so a group of his friends went with him to protect him...they did not instigate violence, they fought back when violence was instigated on them....what are you supposed to do...when the threat is seconds away the cops are minutes away.so he had a choice...risk violence and give his talk or,...be silenced....
I hear what your saying Haze,but your not addressing my point...I'm an American, and a product of Westeren culture...so I believe in the freedom of speech and freedom of thought.and at this point in time there is no threat to those things being offered by the right...there is not a single instance in which the Proud Boys or for that matter anyone on the right who has tried to shut down a speech given by even the most insane violent leftists.
I don't underestimate the global elite..if the neo-nazi didn't exist the global elite would manufacture them in order to create war....the global elite are able to manipulate countries to committ mass slaughter on each other, so creating a civil war is no challenge to them. But your fears of what MAY happen don't address the threat that IS happening right now.namely that free speech and free thought are being shutdown across Western Civilization..in our streets and our Universities, in our media by the left....believe in free speech and free thought I believe if you want to talk about how the white race aren't really humans and they were created by a mad black scientist in a cave somewhere,like the Nation of Islam said...or if you believe that there is a kabal of Zionist bankers who manipulate the political class of the world and use fratcional banking to control economies and countries, and that the Holocaust was a myth created by them,and theses same zionist bankers most likely created or bankrolled ISIS.....then fine go for it.... offer up the scholarship to try and convince me.....but when you speak out to use violence to control speech and thought...you threaten the existence of America and the Republic....and the peacefull evolution of human conciousness.

so once again I ask you ....what is the differnce if freedom is crushed under the boot of antifa, or the boot of a uniformed security force of the state.the endgame is the same...and they are both owned by the same people.
 
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Thanks a million for posting that...even after years of vaping it was still incredibelly informative...and bone chilling at the same time...the colusion between the goverments, tobacco companies, the pharmacutecals and the so called public health advocates to make a fortune of the deaths of the masses was heart breaking.
 

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LOL..Mel Gibson is a good Catholic. Unfortunately he sometimes drinks too much and runs his mouth.
However, he's an actor and I'm only interested in his talent and credibility as an actor.
Otherwise I don't care what Mel thinks.

I don't care what you think either so you know what you can do with your insults.
I'm not nazi hunting. But I do know who is who and you don't.
That you are ignorant doesn't mean I have to be.
That I disagree with your sophomoric opinion doesn't mean that I am on the "other side" and should get a black mask and hoodie.
What it means is that unlike you I can see several moves ahead and realize
EVERYBODY, antifa, proud boyz, alt milos, ETC are being set up.

I don't expect armchair warriors aching for a dose of testosterone
to understand that it's a game that no side wins because winning isn't the goal.

Now see:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/11-arrests-at-nyu-protest-over-speech-by-proud-boys-leader/

11 arrests at NYU protest over speech by ‘Proud Boys’ leader
NEW YORK (AP) — Fights broke out when the founder of a far-right men’s organization appeared at New York University, leading to 11 arrests — the second time this week that violence halted a controversial speech at a U.S. university.

The speaker, Gavin McInnes, was hit by pepper spray during the fracas that erupted when protesters turned up to disrupt his speech Thursday night in New York City, school officials said.

McInnes is the founder of a group called the “Proud Boys.” He dubs himself a “western chauvinist,” uses racial epithets in his essays and has argued that women make less money because they are less ambitious than men.

McInnes was invited to speak by the NYU College Republicans. His appearance sparked a protest by a group called the NYU Anti-Fascists.

NYU spokesman John Beckman says McInnes tried to continue but stopped when protesters rushed into the room and shouted him down.

Police said those arrested face charges including criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.

McInnes was a co-founder of Vice Media. He and Vice severed ties in 2008.

On Wednesday, protesters hurled smoke bombs, broke windows and started a bonfire before Milo Yiannopoulos, an editor of Breitbart News, appeared at the University of California at Berkeley. The violence led officials there to cancel his talk out of safety concerns.
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McInnes is Canadian..an actor, comic, writer.
Articles like the above excite sheep. His job is exciting sheep and selling them himself and t-shirts/memberships.
I only wonder how much McInnes gets paid per speech. It's a fucking racket
and he's a fucking racketeer. You wanna make him an American hero?
That's cool, but you don't have to get so huffy..

I think you're missing an important distinction, not simply in this one post but overall. These are not two sides engaged in mutual combat.

This is leftist thugs going out of their way to disrupt, shut down or otherwise silence people they don't like and using violence to do it. Period.

I have not seen a single case of people on the right, regardless of any labeling(racist, nazi, conservative, libertarian, white nationalist, etc) going to leftist events to shut them down and shut them up. Have you? Obama is speaking today, I bet there are no violent attempts to shut him up.

If those that want to speak just go home and allow the leftist fucks to shut them up, the leftists get what they want.

Law enforcement, for whatever reason, has not been able secure these people rights to assemble. They must protect themselves and their right to assemble if they want to speak. It is not mutual combat. It is one leftist group inciting violence on another group and the other group protecting themselves and their right to assemble.

While you are correct, the right group(s) could just go home and they would not have to defend themselves, it does nothing to defend their right to assemble. They MUST defend their right to assemble, if they want to assemble.

Bowing down and letting the leftist terrorists shut down speech and assembly is absolutely the wrong thing to do. If LE(government) will not secure these rights as given by God(or in my non religious view, by simply existing[nature]) and protected by the Constitution, it falls to the people as directed by the Constitution to secure these rights. If the Government turns on the people as you fear may happen(martial law), the Constitution has provided the right to keep and bear arms to alleviate that situation as well.

In short, the fight against leftist terrorist groups that use the violence of force to shut down the rights of all people to freely speak and assemble is not a simple social fight, it is a fight to retain God given and Constitutionally protected rights. And if the government does not ensure those rights, it is the responsiblity of the people to do it.
 

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lmfao at the dipshit who pretends to be smart because he knows how to use Google. oh noez watch out , you might end up on his ignore list....big loss there.
 

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lmfao at the dipshit who pretends to be smart because he knows how to use Google. oh noez watch out , you might end up on his ignore list....big loss there.
Haze is a sharp cookie...he just has fears that I find disporpotionate to what I see in my streets and what I see in the world around me.and he can be an asshole...but then all of us here are... from time to time...after all ...you know what they say..."Mean people suck,but nice people swallow"
 
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Haze is a sharp cookie...he just has fears that I find disporpotionate to what I see in my streets and what I see in the world around me.and he can be an asshole...but then all of us here are... from time to time...after all ...you know what they say..."Mean people suck,but nice people swallow"
lol being mean is of no consequence to me. I laugh at delusional googlers
 

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lol being mean is of no consequence to me. I laugh at delusional googlers
Dude... Haze has forgotten more shit than 90% of the population ever learns, and apparently that includes you.....and my point is I'd rather associate with a mean son of a bitch than somone who swallows serfdom.His knowldege of History and politics far surpasses your own...and though I might not see eye to eye with him on everything he is someone whose thoughts are worth listening to....after all I'm a mean son of a bitch as well.
 
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I think you're missing an important distinction, not simply in this one post but overall. These are not two sides engaged in mutual combat.

This is leftist thugs going out of their way to disrupt, shut down or otherwise silence people they don't like and using violence to do it. Period.

I have not seen a single case of people on the right, regardless of any labeling(racist, nazi, conservative, libertarian, white nationalist, etc) going to leftist events to shut them down and shut them up. Have you? Obama is speaking today, I bet there are no violent attempts to shut him up.

If those that want to speak just go home and allow the leftist fucks to shut them up, the leftists get what they want.

Law enforcement, for whatever reason, has not been able secure these people rights to assemble. They must protect themselves and their right to assemble if they want to speak. It is not mutual combat. It is one leftist group inciting violence on another group and the other group protecting themselves and their right to assemble.

While you are correct, the right group(s) could just go home and they would not have to defend themselves, it does nothing to defend their right to assemble. They MUST defend their right to assemble, if they want to assemble.

Bowing down and letting the leftist terrorists shut down speech and assembly is absolutely the wrong thing to do. If LE(government) will not secure these rights as given by God(or in my non religious view, by simply existing[nature]) and protected by the Constitution, it falls to the people as directed by the Constitution to secure these rights. If the Government turns on the people as you fear may happen(martial law), the Constitution has provided the right to keep and bear arms to alleviate that situation as well.

In short, the fight against leftist terrorist groups that use the violence of force to shut down the rights of all people to freely speak and assemble is not a simple social fight, it is a fight to retain God given and Constitutionally protected rights. And if the government does not ensure those rights, it is the responsiblity of the people to do it.

I beg to both agree and disagree.
I understand that we have the right to assemble but I also know that at this point in time
that right will only accomplish getting media attention.

You also know that defending said right from black clad activists is not our job
it is the job of law enforcement. You also know that it seems law enforcement
is not doing or is being prevented from doing their job.
Have you asked yourself why?

You know as does pulsevape that the DNC was shown by O'Keefe to be paying thugs to disrupt
Trump rallies and it follows that the same people being paid are still being payed to disrupt
conservative political events. You may recall
that I FORWARDED THE VIDEO TO Shawn Hannity...so I don't need PV reminding me of that.

You may recall that I also posted about the ads to hire "crisis actors" being paid for b organizations funded by Soros.
You need not remind me that Antifa ETC are a paid organized effort to undermine our Republic.

I now remind you what the purpose of said paid agitation is/was.
Was it to instigate revolt? To violate our right to assemble? To stifle our free speech?
NO.
The purpose was to turn it around and blame Trump and his supporters.

Now ask whether you really think those black clad antifa social warriors are going to take any of our freedom
or actually just inconvenience a few people who feel the need to attend a pep rally...
The mayors, governors, police, ETC all know if the (armed) right wing decides to fight those antifa dudes
we would win.
But does anybody care whether we would win or lose a few street fights?
No.
What they care about is that if there's enough people fighting in the streets
DISOBEYING the law, ARMED, they are all subject to being labeled enemy combatants
and being arrested and held w/o benefit of trial or other constitutional guarantees and rights.

I know you @Time understand the above and think you as opposed to some of our colleagues
don't need to be an armchair or any type of warrior to know you still have nuts...

As far as being AFRAID...
While it seems some keyboard warriors have decided to confuse my common sense
and INTELLIGENCE for cowardice nothing could be further from the truth.

I am not afraid for myself..I'm afraid for the old men running their fingers.
I'm afraid for the big mouths who think running their mouth will cause an armed
SWAT guy from standing down and think about the Bill of Rights.
I'm afraid for the United States of America because I *know* that we have enemies way more dangerous than antifa
or BLM who are setting us up so they can steal our freedom.

If over a hundred years worth of underhanded nefarious interference in the affairs of sovereign nations
hasn't given some of y'all a clue that we're not playing a game where all the good tin soldiers wearing blue uniforms
line up with their muskets in front of a bunch of other soldiers dressed in red and shoot it out
while some guys in funny hats miles away from the skirmish decide who dies next
then I'm indeed wasting my time trying to make the point that cowardice and valor or patriotism has little to do with any of this other
than those things being qualities for the puppet masters to exploit.
 

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Dude... Haze has forgotten more shit than 90% of the population ever learns, and apparently that includes you.....and my point is I'd rather associate with a mean son of a bitch than somone who swallows serfdom.His knowldege of History and politics far surpasses your own...and though I might not see eye to eye with him on everything he is someone whose thoughts are worth listening to....after all I'm a mean son of a bitch as well.
Amazing how you claim to even have a clue as to what i know, or in this case do not know. Your entire statement is a giant fallacy.
 

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Don't be skeered. I'm just gonna hand you a towel to dry behind your ears and wipe the mother's milk off your chin.
Proving how little you know about me is rather amusing. Then again i have not attempted to validate myself by explaining my life story to the likes of random message board memebers.
 

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@Dead Gummy Worm
I'm filtering you, I don't read your stupid remarks.
I'm aware that you've made comments regarding my valor and intelligence.

Dude, from your first post you have made it obvious that you're nothing but a troll.
Had you been actually interested in civil discussion I wouldn't have blocked you.
But you aren't. You're an ignorant asshole with a big mouth and a keyboard, an honest to goodness
"internet tough guy"..bet you're a little guy
with a tiny dick out here trying to compensate for being small.

You trolling me is like preaching to the choir. Nothing you might say, nothing that your boyfriend or mommy
tell you to say will phaze me.
But I'm still going to give you some advice.
Stop projecting your inadequacy on people that you do not know.
For all you know (which is evidently not much) I may have friends who have already looked at certain
logs which contain your IP addy.
For all you know I may have already looked up your IP addy and translated it to your actual land addy.
For all you know I may work, have worked, or know people who still work in
government who may have acquired for me as a favor your photograph, SS number,
and possibly even your CC and bank account numbers.

For all you know you may be dealing with your worst nightmare
while you think you're only trolling...

Now, I'm not saying any of that is true, not threatening you,
only reminding you that the world is much smaller than you know
and some day you might be attending some vaping rally wearing a stupid name tag
and suddenly find yourself to be a Dead Gummy Worm.

Now, note that even the guys I'm arguing with think I'm better and smarter than you.
Because I know those guys to be battle hardened as well as intelligent
I actually respect their opinion even when they're drunk and/or wrong.

You? Nah..you're just another punk troll in a world full of punks trolls.
Run along junior, nothing here you might understand. Tell you what,
go get a nice flagpole and..no, not that..Go fight antifa.
 

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Amazing how you claim to even have a clue as to what i know, or in this case do not know. Your entire statement is a giant fallacy.
It isn't amazing. You make your ignorance known every time you post.
Do you actually know what a fallacy is? LOL
Bet your boyfriend told you to use it 'cause it's a big word.

You've now served your bit of usefulness..Run along, back in the killfile
 
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It isn't amazing. You make your ignorance know every time you post.
Do you actually know what a fallacy is? LOL
Bet your boyfriend told you to use it 'cause it's a big word.

You've now served your bit of usefulness..Run along, back in the killfile
LMFAO yes i make my ignorance known... because i think of you and your kind to be delusional... keep grasping.

Fallacy was covered in composition way back when... i do not need the help of google to figure it out... did you have to google what it meant in order to see exactly what i was saying?

If you were worth taking seriously i would almost care about your "killfile" just keep me on ignore i dont mind talking about you without your knowing since you like running around with blinders and silencing anybody who's opinion is so drastically different than yours... sounds like some other groups of people.... "la la la cant hear you" "repeat lies enough and hope people believe it" hmmm.
 

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What a child

BAM crew
 

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What a child

BAM crew
Wow, that cut deep, i mean damn, i just dont know what to do.... repeating claims of others without knowing anything...... sign of true intelligence is calling people you disagree with a child..... that wins all arguments/disagreements/difference of opinions!!!!!
 

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Wow, that cut deep, i mean damn, i just dont know what to do.... repeating claims of others without knowing anything...... sign of true intelligence is calling people you disagree with a child..... that wins all arguments/disagreements/difference of opinions!!!!!
No one ever 'wins' an argument.
All you're doing now is pissing off some of the more knowledgeable people here.
Hazy and I may disagree on several things politically. He and I have had some knock down drag out arguments.

However, we've also both been able to keep respect for each other. To be honest, He, pulse and a guy from another forum taught me more about vaping than anyone else, when I was getting started.

The loss is yours, not theirs.

So go celebrate getting started in people's ignore list the only way trolls know how.

BAM crew
 

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No one ever 'wins' an argument.
All you're doing now is pissing off some of the more knowledgeable people here.
Hazy and I may disagree on several things politically. He and I have had some knock down drag out arguments. However, we've also both been able to keep respect for each other. To be honest, He, pulse and a guy from another forum taught me more about vaping than anyone else, when I was getting started.

The loss is yours, not there's.

So go celebrate getting started in people's ignore list the only way trolls know how.

BAM crew
You make a lot of assumptions. You assume I care who i piss off. You assume i would need their advice....for anything. You seem to think highly of them... i have yet to see any reason to do so. You keep claiming people to be knowledgeable, i have yet to see this knowledge. So because i am in the minority of people being vocal that just makes me ignorant... because i dont subscribe to every conspiracy theory presented here? Give me a break. If someone is so butt hurt that my views are not in line with theirs that they desire to ignore me, i do not lose sleep over it... i laugh at it because of the irony. I dont ignore anybody ever, no matter what i think of that person or their ideals..People who ignore are no better than those seeking safe spaces due to trigger words and inability to face reality.
 

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Hazy and I may disagree on several things politically. He and I have had some knock down drag out arguments.

Dude, the ONE and only knock down argument you and I have ever had
involved your persistently mistaking me for another guy who dissed our buddy Huckleberried.

( one of my blessings/curses is my excellent memory)

You finally read back and we both apologized.
So...like I said before, Peace and Love.... ;)
 

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Dude, the ONE and only knock down argument you and I have ever had
involved your persistently mistaking me for another guy who dissed our buddy Huckleberried.

( one of my blessings/curses is my excellent memory)

You finally read back and we both apologized.
So...like I said before, Peace and Love.... ;)
Oh yea, and even that was instigated by another guy who finally managed to get himself banned from VU
(though I suspect he's back under another alias ... Shhhh. Don't ask don't tell..LOL)
 

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Oh yea, and even that was instigated by another guy who finally managed to get himself banned from VU
(though I suspect he's back under another alias ... Shhhh. Don't ask don't tell..LOL)
I make it a practice to not ask things I don't want the answer to. Lmao

All water under the bridge, due to my incessant inability to hide my asshole side.

BAM crew
 

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Oh yea, and even that was instigated by another guy who finally managed to get himself banned from VU
(though I suspect he's back under another alias ... Shhhh. Don't ask don't tell..LOL)
Oh shit yeah! I remember now, that was the guy that was saving pictures of our female members.
Creepy creeper is what i call him now.

BAM crew
 

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Oh shit yeah! I remember now, that was the guy that was saving pictures of our female members.
Creepy creeper is what i call him now.

BAM crew
The poor guy just wants badly to be a moderator and be "in the loop"...LOL
He was pissed at me because he thought I was taking advantage of a young chick I brought over from ECF.
I was actually counseling her...the dude and I have made peace...even though he's still an asshole.

BTW, I no longer think you're an asshole.
As I already told you, a certain cute young lady seems to have cured you of that.. :)
 

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The poor guy just wants badly to be a moderator and be "in the loop"...LOL
He was pissed at me because he thought I was taking advantage of a young chick I brought over from ECF.
I was actually counseling her...the dude and I have made peace...even though he's still an asshole.

BTW, I no longer think you're an asshole.
As I already told you, a certain cute young lady seems to have cured you of that.. :)
Bahaha!!! I got lucky with that one.
That post will surely make her day as well!
Im glad you made peace with him. He does have a good side. But the creepy side made ME want to shower with lye.

BAM crew
 

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LMFAO - how did i miss this beauty of a "post"


@Dead Gummy Worm
I'm filtering you, I don't read your stupid remarks.
I'm aware that you've made comments regarding my valor and intelligence.
Whatever you want to say triggered one.

Dude, from your first post you have made it obvious that you're nothing but a troll.
Had you been actually interested in civil discussion I wouldn't have blocked you.
But you aren't. You're an ignorant asshole with a big mouth and a keyboard, an honest to goodness
"internet tough guy"..bet you're a little guy
with a tiny dick out here trying to compensate for being small.
You act like i care that you blocked me. I find it very VERY amusing. Tell yourself whatever you have to in order to feel better... no skin off my back.


You trolling me is like preaching to the choir. Nothing you might say, nothing that your boyfriend or mommy
tell you to say will phaze me.
But I'm still going to give you some advice.
Stop projecting your inadequacy on people that you do not know.
Look at who is projecting here.

For all you know (which is evidently not much) I may have friends who have already looked at certain
logs which contain your IP addy.
For all you know I may have already looked up your IP addy and translated it to your actual land addy.
For all you know I may work, have worked, or know people who still work in
government who may have acquired for me as a favor your photograph, SS number,
and possibly even your CC and bank account numbers.
LoL BRING IT! Clearly you do not have any of my information, and i know 100% fact you cannot have all my information EVEN if you have a "friend" in the government...(btw you dont know who you are talking to either :D ) If you had any of my information you would know better :p


For all you know you may be dealing with your worst nightmare
while you think you're only trolling...
No i am dealing with a peacock fluffing up feathers trying to be big and scary.

Now, I'm not saying any of that is true, not threatening you,
only reminding you that the world is much smaller than you know
and some day you might be attending some vaping rally wearing a stupid name tag
and suddenly find yourself to be a Dead Gummy Worm.
Again you do not know anything. Want to talk about ignorance.... the garbage you have spewed out in this post alone is enough to laugh at for a week.

Now, note that even the guys I'm arguing with think I'm better and smarter than you.
Because I know those guys to be battle hardened as well as intelligent
I actually respect their opinion even when they're drunk and/or wrong.
Note the guys you are arguing with have been on my nuts since i posted in this thread... Their opinion of me matters as much as your opinion matters.


You? Nah..you're just another punk troll in a world full of punks trolls.
Run along junior, nothing here you might understand. Tell you what,
go get a nice flagpole and..no, not that..Go fight antifa.
Because you need a safe space, cannot control when you reply to someone who you claim is being a troll. Call me what you want, just because i think your opinions are ludicrous and delusional conspiracy theories does not make me a troll.

Im sure you have already ignored me, so let one of your minions inform you that i have responded to your ridiculous post... Talk about a joke. All talk, that is all you are.
 
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