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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?

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HondaDavidson

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Arthur said:
But how do they get away with it ! Even the fucking alleged "mafia" have rats or infiltration. Its fucking inpossible to have these many coincidence associated to 2 people for so many years are they truly more powerful then mexican cartel bosses who have goverment help ? Are we Mexico when it comes to the clintons ?

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No, Mexican government corruption is the Minor leagues compared to American government corruption. The Clintons are on a level above that.
The progressives have been running the government, the press and the mafia (for that matter) for the last 100 years or so.
 
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It doesn't matter,,Mitt Romney (remember him) is my neighbor, he said the electoral college will do the picking like they did with George Bush 2
 
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bullshit .....the elctoral college is about as honest as the voting booth....a group of bankers will decide..
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Yes the electoral system as currently used is riggged..... but the electoral college as a concept is still valid....... it is the only thing standing between you and mob rule..... it's what prevents all the rules being made by the biggest states or cities... it's what keeps the bankers from having all the power.

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Take California..from my understanding.....the electorial college is based on population...it doesn't count if that population is of LEGAL citizens....the more illegal mexicans California brings in the more political power it has.
 
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What I find despicable about the electoral college, they're not bound to any choice. It's not against the rules to see what the people they represent chose and make a different choice, it's just 'frowned upon'. So say 100 people live in a state, 99 vote Trump and 1 votes shillary, the electoral voters could say 'ummm - shillary, yep.' Why vote at all if it's just going to come down to a few people with no obligation by rule or law to vote the way of the people?

In terms of people pissy about Trump's 'mean words' or how he speaks, his off the cuff remarks etc, people need to shit or get off the pot. They bitch that politicians are just overly polished word smiths akin to used car salesmen who will tell you whatever you want to hear to get elected. They're tired of puppets that work for the system. Enter trump, he says what he wants, does what he wants, throw the establishment rules out the window and everyone bitches he's not presidential enough. He's not like a 'real politician'.

Fuckin spineless bastard nation needs to make a choice whether they want the same crap they've been spoonfed for years or whether they actually want change. You can't whine about things being the same then when you get change piss and moan it's not what you're used to. Or maybe people just want a reason to bitch period.
 
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We ain't gonna fix anything till people start voting.......
When less than 50% of those eligible to vote are registered... and less than 50% of those do vote. The result is what we have. Bankers are not the problem... non Voting whiners are.


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Take California..from my understanding.....the electorial college is based on population...it doesn't count if that population is of LEGAL citizens....the more illegal mexicans California brings in the more political power it has.
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California doesn't count....... Until an earthquake removes Los Angeles and/or San Francisco. It will always go electorally to the Progressive/socialist/democrat/liberal/confederate/communist (whatever name they are going by today and regardless of party).
This goes back to the 3/5th's issue in the constitution. In those days, the slavers wanted their NON-citizen slaves to count for them in the electoral college. Today, the same people, now called democrats, want to use the NON-citizen immigrant, in the same way.

The more things "change", the more they stay the same.
 
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California doesn't count....... Until an earthquake removes Los Angeles and/or San Francisco. It will always go electorally to the Progressive/socialist/democrat/liberal/confederate/communist (whatever name they are going by today and regardless of party).
This goes back to the 3/5th's issue in the constitution. In those days, the slavers wanted their NON-citizen slaves to count for them in the electoral college. Today, the same people, now called democrats, want to use the NON-citizen immigrant, in the same way.

The more things "change", the more they stay the same.
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Apparently Hitlery is using huge numbers of childeren of illegal aliens to spear head voter registrations...liberals and democrats have aligned themselves with forgien nationals to end the Republic.It's one thing to call yourself a liberal it's quite another thing when you conspire to overthrow the ballot boxes..it's treason....as Califronias floods illegal latinos into the state the culture more and more resembles the third world shithole that is Mexico...we now have mexicans attacking and beating political supporters of rival political parties and we have more and more and economy in the state that resembles mexico in the sense it is divided between a rich class and a peasant class...liberals in California support this creation of a peasent class. Liberals are under the impression that their phony benevolence and disengenious social justice should be rewarded with a much higher standard of living than blue collar white trash....and so they need peons....white and black americans are uppity and don't show the proper difference to their social betters they don't knuckle their forlocks quite as well as a mexican who has generations of practice doing it down in mexico.
 
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HondaDavidson said:
We ain't gonna fix anything till people start voting.......
When less than 50% of those eligible to vote are registered... and less than 50% of those do vote. The result is what we have. Bankers are not the problem... non Voting whiners are.


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Negative.

If your bath water is dirty, adding more dirty water won't make it clean.

The percentage of citizens that vote has nothing to do with it. Your assumption is that non voters would vote for something different than what voters vote for. There is no indication, and it doesn't even make common sense, that those that do not vote are more knowledgeable and smarter than current voters. The opposite appears true. Average people stopped on the street can't answer the most basic of questions. We see this in silly TV and youtube videos, like Jay Walking(Leno). And it makes common sense. People not interested enough to vote do not bother to spend any time learning anything past what they see on the Telly. And the TV is hardly the place one would want to trust for information.

The problem, pure and simple, is not how many people vote. The problem is the knowledge of the ones that do vote.
 
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Negative.

If your bath water is dirty, adding more dirty water won't make it clean.

The percentage of citizens that vote has nothing to do with it. Your assumption is that non voters would vote for something different than what voters vote for. There is no indication, and it doesn't even make common sense, that those that do not vote are more knowledgeable and smarter than current voters. The opposite appears true. Average people stopped on the street can't answer the most basic of questions. We see this in silly TV and youtube videos, like Jay Walking(Leno). And it makes common sense. People not interested enough to vote do not bother to spend any time learning anything past what they see on the Telly. And the TV is hardly the place one would want to trust for information.

The problem, pure and simple, is not how many people vote. The problem is the knowledge of the ones that do vote.
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agreed....most of the people not voting..I don't want voting..they are either to lazy or to stupid to be voting either way stay the fuck home....I have a brother who is a leftist and bitches and whines about whatever the New Yorker or MSNBC tells him to whine about...it came as a surprise to me when he admitted he never voted....I was happy that he had never voted....he always was an indolent fuck even as a kid.
 
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agreed....most of the people not voting..I don't want voting..they are either to lazy or to stupid to be voting either way stay the fuck home....I have a brother who is a leftist and bitches and whines about whatever the New Yorker or MSNBC tells him to whine about...it came as a surprise to me when he admitted he never voted....I was happy that he had never voted....he always was an indolent fuck even as a kid.
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Non voters are more inclined to be bought by promises of "free" stuff.

You don't have to be very sophisticated or knowledgeable for the promise of free college to appeal to you. The implied message is simple. If you want the government to pay for your or your childrens college so you don't have to, get out and vote for me. It's that easy to have free college.
 
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Non voters are more inclined to be bought by promises of "free" stuff.

You don't have to be very sophisticated or knowledgeable for the promise of free college to appeal to you. The implied message is simple. If you want the government to pay for your or your childrens college so you don't have to, get out and vote for me. It's that easy to have free college.
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yeah ..if you don't have the energy drive or logic to bother going down to the corner to pull a lever...you sure has hell don't have the drive,energy or intelligence to bother educating yourself to make an intellegent choice.

which then begs the question...is it wrong for the elite to treat the masses as cattle. when they don't even want a voice in their goverening
 
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Non voters are more inclined to be bought by promises of "free" stuff.

You don't have to be very sophisticated or knowledgeable for the promise of free college to appeal to you. The implied message is simple. If you want the government to pay for your or your childrens college so you don't have to, get out and vote for me. It's that easy to have free college.
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If Hilary Clinton is elected she will do to America what she did for the Middle East .....do we really want an Arab Spring for America.
 
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If Hilary Clinton is elected she will do to America what she did for the Middle East .....do we really want an Arab Spring for America.
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Don't we already have one?


I mean, there isn't a country that can do what we do to other countries, like arm and train them, but............................................
 
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That won't change no matter what Trump says or does not say. The media's job in this election is to over-inflate, distort, misquote, misrepresent, make up, parrot progressive talking points as their own and just plain stack the deck against Trump while downplaying, not reporting, minimal reporting, make stuff up, misquote anything and bury anything that might hurt Hitlery.

We knew this going into the election before we even knew who was going to run. Remember Romney's 47% comment, the dog on the roof and he shaved a kids head in school when he was a kid? Romney was fairly well spoken, a douche bag, but fairly well spoken. The leftist media chewed him up over stupid shit. Remember Obama's comment about "we'll bring a gun"? If you do, it was because you saw it on the internet. The leftist media did not report it.

Relax. The media would have chewed up any outsider, no matter who, against Hitlery. They've been mum about her for years. They are not going to start reporting about her even if Trump says the exact right thing. They have yet to make her do a press conference to answer direct questions from anybody. And they won't. Trump has to beat her and the media. Try not to be mad at Trump for the distortions of the media. They'll distort anything he says, no matter how he says it. It's not his fault.
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You proved yourself right yesterday @Time .Trump gave a great speech on point but he was reading it not off the cuff ......CNN spent the whole night talking about his dangerous words . Also he said Hillary did not have the stamina mentaly or physically to fight Issis wich meant all women are weak and cant do hard jobs ......its amazing

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You proved yourself right yesterday @Time .Trump gave a great speech on point but he was reading it not off the cuff ......CNN spent the whole night talking about his dangerous words . Also he said Hillary did not have the stamina mentaly or physically to fight Issis wich meant all women are weak and cant do hard jobs ......its amazing

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it's all so comically transparent you really have to wonder about the mental health of the average Hitlery supporter, as well as a population that stands by and does not demand the media be eviscerated for collusion to undermine the Republic.
 
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it's all so comically transparent you really have to wonder about the mental health of the average Hitlery supporter, as well as a population that stands by and does not demand the media be eviscerated for collusion to undermine the Republic.
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Unfortunatly i have come to the conclusion nobody gives a fuck for the most part or understands what is happening .The payoff of Bernie ? Where did all his people go ? Where is the story of that ? Clintons taxes? How does a public servent make 10 million a year . But she did give a million dollars to charity ! That charity was the clinton foundation . She also gave to another charity that then donated the same amount to the clinton foundation . No story . No question .

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Arthur said:
No story . No question .
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Of course no story, when you have friends in high places that censor and tailor make the main stream media coverage. This is where most Americans believe the factual news is reported.
 
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You proved yourself right yesterday @Time .Trump gave a great speech on point but he was reading it not off the cuff ......CNN spent the whole night talking about his dangerous words . Also he said Hillary did not have the stamina mentaly or physically to fight Issis wich meant all women are weak and cant do hard jobs ......its amazing

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It's easy to spot propaganda in the media and from the elite, once you know how and if you are informed.

1. They start the story in the middle. They do this all the time for foreign policy stories but they do it for Trump too. They'll say Trump has attacked an individual. Let's use Rosie O, the fat fuck, for an example as it's not just liberal media that does it. The nice lady on FOX asks Trump about calling a woman a fat slob. It's true, but deceptive because she starts in the middle. She does not mention that Rosie O first attacked Trumps appearance making fun of him being orange and weird hair. Trump returned the insult. By starting the story in the middle, the idea is to paint Trump in a certain light. Most people could not give a shit about celebrity infighting so most people will not know Rosie O got back just what she put in. Like I said, they do this all the time for foreign policy stories also. And it's not as apparent unless we pay close attention.

2. They have a basic and obvious disregard for facts and history. So, they are up in arms because Trump suggested the US partners with Russia to defeat ISIS. Oh, my god! Russia is our forever enemy!???? Twice before, WW I and II, the US and Russia(then communist USSR) were allies to defeat a common enemy. ISIS is a common enemy. Nobody mentions this little tid bit. It's not relevant for some reason. The reason is propaganda. They do this with foreign policy stories also.

3. They bold faced lie.
 
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Why isnt Don Lemonhead from CNN in Milwaukee? Black cop shoots black armed man but black lives matter burns loots and beat up random white people because they are white . I thought CNN liked to expose racisim ?

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You think that all people voting for Trump are inherently racist? I for one can assure you that none of my political believes are swayed nor fueled by anything remotely close to racial lines.
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Is this not also a form of stereotype? You are grouping a bunch of people together and putting a blanket definition on them because of 1 thing they have in common. Be careful you may just posses the same traits of that which you hate.
 
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Is this not also a form of stereotype? You are grouping a bunch of people together and putting a blanket definition on them because of 1 thing they have in common. Be careful you may just posses the same traits of that which you hate.
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Ummm
The last time I check I was ONLY referring to DONALD DUCK TRAMP



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I love the ignore function...I can't see what you are responding to but it's easy to imagine...

Leftards always resort to the racist card when they have no argument based in fact.
 
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Ignore all you want
You can't ignore the fact that you are about to vote for a guy that is a leftard
You all think
Trump is a conservative
You all dumb enough to think that way...
Everybody knows the DUCK is racist
Wth is wrong with you all...


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Arthur

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ej1024 said:
Ignore all you want
You can't ignore the fact that you are about to vote for a guy that is a leftard
You all think
Trump is a conservative
You all dumb enough to think that way...
Everybody knows the DUCK is racist
Wth is wrong with you all...


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Is he racist cause he wants to stop ILLEGALS . Is that why you say he is a racist ?

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