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fq06

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You're the one claiming I have a low income strategy and no retirement. You assume too much. :teehee:

Like I said in my first post on the subject. The key is low taxable income. Not low income. Look up the difference. It's quit legal to pay no taxes no matter of income, if you give your accountant something to work with. A simple wage/salary won't do. You have to have more than that.

You said you want illary for President. I hope you get it.


Ok, I'll bite. Would love to hear about this magic income that is exempt from tax...

So there's municipal bond income, doubt that.

$14,000 annual gifting from your grandma, no you sucked the life out of her restaurant already. Inheritance from dead uncle (hope it was a few million, you don't look too old).

Insurance payout, that's not income but it's tax free money.

Disability. That's not an earned income but you get it tax free. It would barely cover car payments and monthly dinners out for me but maybe it works for you. If that's the income that makes you so smart because you avoid taxation on it... your no fucking genius. You don't have to be smart to avoid taxation on that income, you just have to be disabled.

So what did I miss?
 
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fq06

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What a load of shit...GE is the largest industrial corporation in the world made 4 billion dollars under Obama and paid 0 dollars in taxes.....

Had to unblock you for a minute to see what dribble you were spewing.

Put your tin foil hat back on. I suppose your favorite democrat Elizabeth Warren told you that. They are very aggressive with their taxes but to say zero tax is just showing that you know nothing and believe all the nonsense posted online.

Your buddy trump is planning to first reduce his own corporate tax to 15% and I guess as an unintended benefit to GE, they will also get a tax break.

That will never get through, corporations will not be kind hearted and share the wealth with the employees or hire additional people if they are already getting the job done with their existing work force. Corporate profits and ceo pay (trump's) will just increase.
Shareholders will profit from the tax break (trump), but that's probably not you.
 

pulsevape

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Had to unblock you for a minute to see what dribble you were spewing.

Put your tin foil hat back on. I suppose your favorite democrat Elizabeth Warren told you that. They are very aggressive with their taxes but to say zero tax is just showing that you know nothing and believe all the nonsense posted online.

Your buddy trump is planning to first reduce his own corporate tax to 15% and I guess as an unintended benefit to GE, they will also get a tax break.

That will never get through, corporations will not be kind hearted and share the wealth with the employees or hire additional people if they are already getting the job done with their existing work force. Corporate profits and ceo pay (trump's) will just increase.
Shareholders will profit from the tax break (trump), but that's probably not you.
Ah damn I thought you were going to ignore me.....but you missed the point or as usual evade and sidestep the point....you tried to make the assertion that anyone making over a certain amount pays taxes,..bulshit ...you're to stupid to figure out a way to evade taxes ...lots of rich people pay zero taxes...in 2002 and 2007 GE paid less than 1% of the federal tax rate..... efectively they paid nothing..hell half of humboldt county herb growers make hundreds of thousands of dollars and pay nothing...Pedro and Lupe figured out a way to pay no taxes... .fuck at one point the American taxpayer was paying Ted Kennedy money on farmlands he owned.....by the way numb nuts ...what's an Aleppo......i guess someone who votes for a dipshit that cant name a single world leader or talks with his tounge sticking out like a child or ej does, really cant be expected to be too smart.


When the president brags he has a phone and a pen and is above obeying the separation of powers,when his center piece legislation is unconstitutional,when he bombs populations against American law,when the DNC presidential candidate Secretary of State..has a 30 year history of rape,drug smuggling,assassination, treason,and pimps out the state department,when most of congress are whores owned by forgien nationals...when 30 million illegal aliens break our laws with impunity....no American citizen should in any way feel compelled to obey any law that they feel is against their own interests....anything else is ludicrous.
 
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pulsevape

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If you don't like paying taxes
Get the fuck out of this country....
You try to justify ur non sense bullshit!!!
You should be ashamed of yourself dude!!
Fuck you!!!
And please don't compare urself to GE!!
That's a FUCKING multi billion corporation
And your are SOB that gets welfare checks
You and pulsevApe should suck each other's dick!!
Fuck YOU stupid ass freeloaders!!




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ej1024

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Ah damn I thought you were going to ignore me.....but you missed the point or as usual evade and sidestep the point....you tried to make the assertion that anyone making over a certain amount pays taxes,..bulshit ...you're to stupid to figure out a way to evade taxes ...lots of rich people pay zero taxes...in 2002 and 2007 GE paid less than 1% of the federal tax rate..... efectively they paid nothing..hell half of humboldt county herb growers make hundreds of thousands of dollars and pay nothing...Pedro and Lupe figured out a way to pay no taxes... .fuck at one point the American taxpayer was paying Ted Kennedy money on farmlands he owned.....by the way numb nuts ...what's an Aleppo......i guess someone who votes for a dipshit that cant name a single world leader or talks with his tounge sticking out like a child or ej does, really cant be expected to be too smart.


When the president brags he has a phone and a pen and is above obeying the separation of powers,when his center piece legislation is unconstitutional,when he bombs populations against American law,when the DNC presidential candidate Secretary of State..has a 30 year history of rape,drug smuggling,assassination, treason,and pimps out the state department,when most of congress are whores owned by forgien nationals...when 30 million illegal aliens break our laws with impunity....no American citizen should in any way feel compelled to obey any law that they feel is against their own interests....anything else is ludicrous.

Shut up with ur bullshit.....
MOVE on asshole


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fq06

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Oh yeah, forgot the herb growing industry. They are a cash business while it's underground but in time after more states legalize they will shift to a legitimate industry that pays taxes or feels the wrath of the tax man.
I have friends up there in that industry and it's not hundreds of thousands. It is very lucrative but the hundres of thousands are the 1% up there... most are tens of thousands.
Also what they do bring in is very hard to spend ($10k+ cash must be reported) and is very difficult to get into your bank. So what do you do with your mountains of cash if you are actually bringing in that much? Better get a few more guns.

Corporations can have a different fiscal year than the regular tax cycle so there could be payments made in the previous year for the year you are talking about them evading tax in.
GE pays tax. I'm sure coming out of the great recession they had huge loss and costs but that would be the one year exception where you might find a 1% year. But not no tax, there are other taxes besides income tax.

The rest is just more of your nonsense dribble.
 

pulsevape

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Oh yeah, forgot the herb growing industry. They are a cash business while it's underground but in time after more states legalize they will shift to a legitimate industry that pays taxes or feels the wrath of the tax man.
I have friends up there in that industry and it's not hundreds of thousands. It is very lucrative but the hundres of thousands are the 1% up there... most are tens of thousands.
Also what they do bring in is very hard to spend ($10k+ cash must be reported) and is very difficult to get into your bank. So what do you do with your mountains of cash if you are actually bringing in that much? Better get a few more guns.

Corporations can have a different fiscal year than the regular tax cycle so there could be payments made in the previous year for the year you are talking about them evading tax in.
GE pays tax. I'm sure coming out of the great recession they had huge loss and costs but that would be the one year exception where you might find a 1% year. But not no tax, there are other taxes besides income tax.

The rest is just more of your nonsense dribble.
Wow ...careful you are making ej look almost coherent.....what planet do you inhabit?....we just got through bailing out the banking cartels....and you are under some illusion that there are "rules".......this is great...a poser libertarian defending taxes.....move over ej is there room in the playpen for fq06....
 

pulsevape

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So, I just read Hilary Clinton has named Angela Merkel as the world leader she admires most..an ex Stasi member whose family was involved with the Stasi...a woman who has committed genocide on the German people, and invaded Europe with a hostile horde a woman whose party was just handed a stunning defeat at the polls in Germany....well until she gives the Muslims the vote anyway..... A woman who has turned rapists lose on German women and children,who has kicked Germans out of their homes to make way for Muslim hordes,who has asked German companies to hire invaders over German workers....so if you want to see that in America vote for Hilary, because her endorsement of Merkel is an endorsement of merkels policies......on a brighter note...Hilary was at least able to name a world leader .....and knew What is Aleppo.
 

trlrtrash13

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Same as the primaries.

Um, he won the primaries. The talking heads were wrong. The worriers were wrong. The online polls were right. Trump won the debates.

I suspect you are right. Trump will perform the same way he did in the primary, but you're missing something. He only got 45% of the votes. That's enough to win the primary but not the general. Also, he won New York and California along with other deep blue states he has no shot at in the general. I agree that we should expect a similar result, but that won't be enough for a Trump win.

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Ok, I'll bite. Would love to hear about this magic income that is exempt from tax...

So there's municipal bond income, doubt that.

$14,000 annual gifting from your grandma, no you sucked the life out of her restaurant already. Inheritance from dead uncle (hope it was a few million, you don't look too old).

Insurance payout, that's not income but it's tax free money.

Disability. That's not an earned income but you get it tax free. It would barely cover car payments and monthly dinners out for me but maybe it works for you. If that's the income that makes you so smart because you avoid taxation on it... your no fucking genius. You don't have to be smart to avoid taxation on that income, you just have to be disabled.

So what did I miss?

LOL. If you'd pay attention to what I actually say, you'd know where most of my non taxable income comes from. I've been quite open about it and I've told you directly in the recent past. Hell, someone told you during this discussion. But, being blinded by your own prejudices, you can't see the obvious things you already know. That's why you can argue with me for hours and you find yourself supporting illary. Your cognitive dissonance clouds your judgement. It makes it fun to string you along, too.

FYI, SSDI is not tax exempt. It is taxable income. Income from disability insurance, government or private, is not tax exempt. What I own is nunya bidness but we do eat out fairly often, lol.

Avoiding and reducing tax is doable, legally. Most wage/salary earners don't bother because they don't understand the benefits of doing so. When I was a wage earner, actively reducing my tax liability did not increase the money I kept in my pocket but it did increase my assets and money went to other people rather than the government. For instance, some people will keep a mortgage because interest is tax deductible, even though they could pay it off. They don't get more money in their pocket, but they do keep it out of the governments hands. That's just a simple example.

What you missed is what I've told you directly in the recent past. I pay zero income taxes. Over ten years ago, I paid very little income taxes relative to my income at the time. Just last night, my wife and I made a financial decision based on taxes. It would have given us more gross taxable income and put us over the threshold causing a net loss in the end with that loss going to tax. It didn't make sense personally or ideologically to do so. So, we deferred payment to a later date when our tax liability will be less. Money now vs more money later. We went with more money later.
 

ej1024

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I guess I'm FUCK
California is a STATE of FREELOADERS
We working people HATES it
But we can't do anything about it!!
Fuck this system man!!!
I'm going back to school to earn more and to pay more taxes
What a bunch of crappy shit!!!



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Time

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So, I just read Hilary Clinton has named Angela Merkel as the world leader she admires most..an ex Stasi member whose family was involved with the Stasi...a woman who has committed genocide on the German people, and invaded Europe with a hostile horde a woman whose party was just handed a stunning defeat at the polls in Germany....well until she gives the Muslims the vote anyway..... A woman who has turned rapists lose on German women and children,who has kicked Germans out of their homes to make way for Muslim hordes,who has asked German companies to hire invaders over German workers....so if you want to see that in America vote for Hilary, because her endorsement of Merkel is an endorsement of merkels policies......on a brighter note...Hilary was at least able to name a world leader .....and knew What is Aleppo.

The Germans see it as just the opposite. Merkel is pushing US policies in Germany. This was in a parade in Germany. No wonder illary endorses Merkel.

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Time

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I guess I'm FUCK
California is a STATE of FREELOADERS
We working people HATES it
But we can't do anything about it!!
Fuck this system man!!!
I'm going back to school to earn more and to pay more taxes
What a bunch of crappy shit!!!



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You can do something about it.
It's not that you can't, it's that you won't.
 

HondaDavidson

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I guess I'm FUCK
California is a STATE of FREELOADERS
We working people HATES it
But we can't do anything about it!!
Fuck this system man!!!
I'm going back to school to earn more and to pay more taxes
What a bunch of crappy shit!!!



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Pray for the BIG ONE...... since 90% of the libs in California live where the earthquakes will kill the most people. one good shaker might just save the world... California for sure.

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ej1024

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Pray for the BIG ONE...... since 90% of the libs in California live where the earthquakes will kill the most people. one good shaker might just save the world... California for sure.

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Your buddy trump is planning to first reduce his own corporate tax to 15% and I guess as an unintended benefit to GE, they will also get a tax break.
That will never get through, corporations will not be kind hearted and share the wealth with the employees or hire additional people if they are already getting the job done with their existing work force. Corporate profits and ceo pay (trump's) will just increase.
Shareholders will profit from the tax break (trump), but that's probably not you.

More stupid dribble.

The purpose of lowering the corporate tax is not that corporations will automatically raise wages or even hire more people. It's initial benefit comes in US tax receipts. Since corporations are moving their mailing address' overseas to avoid high tax rates, the US gets zero tax from them. Lowering the tax rate to 15% will keep others from moving and bring some back. The tax receipts from these companies then goes from 0% to 15%.

I don't know how math works where you are in Cali, but here 15% is more than 0%. Or, 15% > 0% if you remember those "less than" and "greater than" signs you learned years ago in school.

15% of a few billion $$$ is better than 30% of zero $$$.

Then companies may or may not expand and hire more people inside the US as opposed to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,not.

The goal is not to make corporations kind hearted. The goal is to appeal to their greedy side and give them a better option than they are getting in other countries, or at least, an even option.
 
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pulsevape

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The Germans see it as just the opposite. Merkel is pushing US policies in Germany. This was in a parade in Germany. No wonder illary endorses Merkel.

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Yeah the leftist eurotrash always blame the US that way they don't have to examine their own countries complicity in the globalist agenda also the globalist would rather the eurotrash blame the Yankee rather than the EU or the central bankers of Europe.....I wonder how the European socialist rationalize the fact that Merkel supports Hilary,who they all adore and Merkel hates Trump.....if Merkel is an American turd shouldn't they love trump since Merkel hates him.....

For instance some French skank in the UN called on America to pay reperations......yet she failed to point out Europe made more money off the slave trade than America.....that European merchants, bankers,and sailing crews made a fortune off the slave trade also that of all the slaves sent to the Americas only 6% went to North America the vast majority went to Brazil and the Carribean to islands many of which were owned by.....the French....
 
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Yeah the leftist eurotrash always blame the US that way they don't have to examine their own countries complicity in the globalist agenda also the globalist would rather the eurotrash blame the Yankee rather than the EU or the central bankers of Europe.....I wonder how the European socialist rationalize the fact that Merkel supports Hilary,who they all adore and Merkel hates Trump.....if Merkel is an American turd shouldn't they love trump since Merkel hates him.....

I dunno. I haven't heard from Germans on Trump/illary. The German media is CIA controlled so I don't pay much attention to the media. Like ours, it's not to be trusted. But, German people seem to be moving to be more nationalist and less globalist in opposition to the government stance. That seems to be the case with many of the major countries though as globalization is proving to be a failure.

I think @HazyShades is correct. Keep our slingshots close. Change that the governments don't endorse is bound to be ugly. In greater numbers, the people are wanting nationalist policies and the governments are bound and determined to expand their globalist agendas. Looks like a powder keg to me.
 

fq06

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More stupid dribble.

The purpose of lowering the corporate tax is not that corporations will automatically raise wages or even hire more people. It's initial benefit comes in US tax receipts. Since corporations are moving their mailing address' overseas to avoid high tax rates, the US gets zero tax from them. Lowering the tax rate to 15% will keep others from moving and bring some back. The tax receipts from these companies then goes from 0% to 15%.

I don't know how math works where you are in Cali, but here 15% is more than 0%. Or, 15% > 0% if you remember those "less than" and "greater than" signs you learned years ago in school.

15% of a few billion $$$ is better than 30% of zero $$$.

Then companies may or may not expand and hire more people inside the US as opposed to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,not.

The goal is not to make corporations kind hearted. The goal is to appeal to their greedy side and give them a better option than they are getting in other countries, or at least, an even option.

Repatriation probably wouldn't change in trumps plan. The whole point of that is to penalize corps for making money outside the us so they have to pay to bring it back in and pay a high rate minus what they paid in the country it was earned in... that's kind of backwards.

The other problem with repatriating money is the dollar is near all time highs so tax is not the major concern, its bringing it back from the euro that used to be 130 and is now around 112 or the pound that was 150 and is now around 130. Or emerging market currencies... forget it... that money will be there for a long time.

Other countries corporate tax rates are single digit to maybe 10 so 15% is not a better option or an even option.

And actually, yeah, trump said that was the point to lowering taxes besides him making more money, was to put more americans to work.

And you're right on the ssdi, I was thinking about private disability insurance. Without a spouses income there would be little to no tax owed though since it pays so little.
 

pulsevape

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I dunno. I haven't heard from Germans on Trump/illary. The German media is CIA controlled so I don't pay much attention to the media. Like ours, it's not to be trusted. But, German people seem to be moving to be more nationalist and less globalist in opposition to the government stance. That seems to be the case with many of the major countries though as globalization is proving to be a failure.

I think @HazyShades is correct. Keep our slingshots close. Change that the governments don't endorse is bound to be ugly. In greater numbers, the people are wanting nationalist policies and the governments are bound and determined to expand their globalist agendas. Looks like a powder keg to me.
Yep, the brexit in England Piegda in Germany the national front in France, they are all growing by leaps and bounds.
 

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LOL.

All the liberal media outlets are whining because Trump tweeted that the Miss Universe illary paraded at the debate had a sex tape. They say it doesn't exist, there is no sex tape.

It looks like a sex tape to me.

http://radaronline.com/videos/alicia-machado-miss-universe-sex-tape-reality-show-explicit-video/

Not really good for porn, but I don't know what else you'd call it. Sex tape seems reasonable. She did get kicked off the show for it. Her fiance left her for it.

The media will spin anything and it's getting too obvious.
 

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LOL.

All the liberal media outlets are whining because Trump tweeted that the Miss Universe illary paraded at the debate had a sex tape. They say it doesn't exist, there is no sex tape.

It looks like a sex tape to me.

http://radaronline.com/videos/alicia-machado-miss-universe-sex-tape-reality-show-explicit-video/

Not really good for porn, but I don't know what else you'd call it. Sex tape seems reasonable. She did get kicked off the show for it. Her fiance left her for it.

The media will spin anything and it's getting too obvious.

This from a country who adores the Kardashians and we all know they're famous because of their "talent". Seems logical.
 

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Repatriation probably wouldn't change in trumps plan. The whole point of that is to penalize corps for making money outside the us so they have to pay to bring it back in and pay a high rate minus what they paid in the country it was earned in... that's kind of backwards.

The other problem with repatriating money is the dollar is near all time highs so tax is not the major concern, its bringing it back from the euro that used to be 130 and is now around 112 or the pound that was 150 and is now around 130. Or emerging market currencies... forget it... that money will be there for a long time.

Other countries corporate tax rates are single digit to maybe 10 so 15% is not a better option or an even option.

And actually, yeah, trump said that was the point to lowering taxes besides him making more money, was to put more americans to work.

And you're right on the ssdi, I was thinking about private disability insurance. Without a spouses income there would be little to no tax owed though since it pays so little.

Whew. You'll argue about anything. :)

What's illary's plan? More tax on them so they leave faster?

The math is still pretty simple. 15% of billions of $$$ is still more than 30% of zero $$$. Even if it doesn't repatriate, stopping the bleeding would be a fucking bonus.

But you want illary for Pres. I suspect if you thought it was her plan and not Trumps, you'd like it better. Your problem, much like in the following video, it's Trump you don't like, no matter what he fucking says.

 

HondaDavidson

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More stupid dribble.

The purpose of lowering the corporate tax is not that corporations will automatically raise wages or even hire more people. It's initial benefit comes in US tax receipts. Since corporations are moving their mailing address' overseas to avoid high tax rates, the US gets zero tax from them. Lowering the tax rate to 15% will keep others from moving and bring some back. The tax receipts from these companies then goes from 0% to 15%.

I don't know how math works where you are in Cali, but here 15% is more than 0%. Or, 15% > 0% if you remember those "less than" and "greater than" signs you learned years ago in school.

15% of a few billion $$$ is better than 30% of zero $$$.

Then companies may or may not expand and hire more people inside the US as opposed to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,not.

The goal is not to make corporations kind hearted. The goal is to appeal to their greedy side and give them a better option than they are getting in other countries, or at least, an even option.
While true it dorsn't matter......... no business still in business has ever paid a single penny in taxes........


The customer, US, paid them.........

ALL tax cuts give you more potential money in your pocket. .. ALL.


Besides taxes are not the problem.... SPENDING is....

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While true it dorsn't matter......... no business still in business has ever paid a single penny in taxes........


The customer, US, paid them.........

ALL tax cuts give you more potential money in your pocket. .. ALL.


Besides taxes are not the problem.... SPENDING is....

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Spending is a huge problem, but it's a separate issue from taxes in the current climate. Taxes won't cover the debt, let alone spending no matter how high they are.

All issues need to be addressed. Taxes included. Lower taxes are better. Period. Like you say, they come out of the consumers pocket, and that's a problem.
 

fq06

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Whew. You'll argue about anything. :)

What's illary's plan? More tax on them so they leave faster?

The math is still pretty simple. 15% of billions of $$$ is still more than 30% of zero $$$. Even if it doesn't repatriate, stopping the bleeding would be a fucking bonus.

But you want illary for Pres. I suspect if you thought it was her plan and not Trumps, you'd like it better. Your problem, much like in the following video, it's Trump you don't like, no matter what he fucking says.


Lol, I'm just replying to your post. Pot, meet kettle.

Not sure where you got the drift that I was voting for hillary or like her in any way. I don't like either of their plans, we're fucked as far as choice goes.
Luckily we have gridlock in congress so neither of their ideas will get anywhere.

I don't think it's been said that Repatriation tax will follow corporate tax on money made in the us. Maybe it has. That goes against trumps whole trade war / punish corps for doing business outside the us though. But I guess it would let him get his tie money back here a little cheaper of he chose to.

The difference between 35% and 15% is just about ate up by the difference in exchange rates. That money will sit overseas for a while so it's still zero coming over.

Go back to your campfire.
 

HondaDavidson

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our congress is a disaster, the president can only do so much by himself
Then why do we keep voting for the same people??????


Based on how the people vote... I say WE like what congress is doing. The poles are just Wrong. No other way to explain it IMO

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Lol, I'm just replying to your post. Pot, meet kettle.

Not sure where you got the drift that I was voting for hillary or like her in any way. I don't like either of their plans, we're fucked as far as choice goes.
Luckily we have gridlock in congress so neither of their ideas will get anywhere.

I don't think it's been said that Repatriation tax will follow corporate tax on money made in the us. Maybe it has. That goes against trumps whole trade war / punish corps for doing business outside the us though. But I guess it would let him get his tie money back here a little cheaper of he chose to.

The difference between 35% and 15% is just about ate up by the difference in exchange rates. That money will sit overseas for a while so it's still zero coming over.

Go back to your campfire.

I didn't say you was voting for illary. I said you want illary for President because you said you prefer illary. I didn't even say you like her. You want illary for Pres. whether you like her or vote for her or not. That's what you said.

I don't think the exchange rate is much of an issue. They likely hold their currency in dollars anyway, as it's most stable(at the moment) and the vast majority of international trade is done in dollars. You don't have to keep the hosting countries currency in the bank. LOL. So, I wanted to look that up to make sure I knew what the fuck I was talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_use_of_the_U.S._dollar

Besides being the main currency of the United States, the American dollar is used as the standard unit of currency in international markets for commodities such as gold and petroleum (the latter, sometimes called petrocurrency, is the source of the term petrodollar). Some non-U.S. companies dealing in globalized markets, such as Airbus, list their prices in dollars.

The U.S. dollar is the world's foremost reserve currency. In addition to holdings by central banks and other institutions, there are many private holdings, which are believed[by whom?] to be mostly in one-hundred-dollar banknotes (indeed, most American banknotes actually are held outside the United States). All holdings of U.S.-dollar bank deposits held by non-residents of the United States are known as "eurodollars" (not to be confused with the euro), regardless of the location of the bank holding the deposit (which may be inside or outside the U.S.).

Yeah, no mention of exchange rate being an issue in this article either;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...stashing-2-1-trillion-overseas-to-avoid-taxes

While it sounds good, I think your theory is bunk. These companies are holding dollars overseas, not Euros.

Archery season is over for the year so the campfire is dead till next year. But, thanks anyway. I will go out and feed my critters. Damn things think they need to eat.
 

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Then why do we keep voting for the same people??????


Based on how the people vote... I say WE like what congress is doing. The poles are just Wrong. No other way to explain it IMO

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We are given no other viable options, just like that moron who is running against these two morons. America is the illusion of choice at this point.

I love this country I do, but it is in the shitter and were I a wiser man I may have an idea of how to fix it. But like many others my hands are on the top of my head thinking,"What the fuck do we do now." And every time I have these thoughts a little bit of my patriot soul dies inside.

What do I feel when election time rolls around, hopelessness.
 

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Then why do we keep voting for the same people??????


Based on how the people vote... I say WE like what congress is doing. The poles are just Wrong. No other way to explain it IMO

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'these same people' start raising money for the next election the day they get in office. the system is broken
 

Arthur

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It may be time for another revaloution too bad we dont have any sam addams or george washingtons .

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LOL.

All the liberal media outlets are whining because Trump tweeted that the Miss Universe illary paraded at the debate had a sex tape. They say it doesn't exist, there is no sex tape.

It looks like a sex tape to me.

http://radaronline.com/videos/alicia-machado-miss-universe-sex-tape-reality-show-explicit-video/

Not really good for porn, but I don't know what else you'd call it. Sex tape seems reasonable. She did get kicked off the show for it. Her fiance left her for it.

The media will spin anything and it's getting too obvious.
Well not only is mrs.piggy a skank who it seems will do anything for a buck.....according to this tape it also appears she's a lousy lay......something that is unforgivable.....people that are lousy in bed can't be trusted......
 

Time

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Well not only is mrs.piggy a skank who it seems will do anything for a buck.....according to this tape it also appears she's a lousy lay......something that is unforgivable.....people that are lousy in bed can't be trusted......

No doubt. The occasional "ay ay ay" while lying there like a blow up doll doesn't cut it.
 

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It may be time for another revaloution too bad we dont have any sam addams or george washingtons .

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While sometimes I entertain this thought and how marvelous it would be those men did it for a sense of justice and what was truly right at the time. Sadly the only people who would take these jackaloon's place is other greedy souls vying for the attention of the lobbyists and special interest groups. Leaving us in a state of chaos with a whole new breed of criminals to contend with. And not across an ocean but right here at home.

This country has been electing crooks ever since someone exclaimed they were not one. If only we could wave a magic wand and take all the monetary gains out of politics we would be left with those who only want to strive for those lofty goals that once were.
 

Time

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'these same people' start raising money for the next election the day they get in office. the system is broken

That, and I don't know what the hell is wrong with people in the individual districts. Good hell, McStain won his Primary again.
 

Time

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While sometimes I entertain this thought and how marvelous it would be those men did it for a sense of justice and what was truly right at the time. Sadly the only people who would take these jackaloon's place is other greedy souls vying for the attention of the lobbyists and special interest groups. Leaving us in a state of chaos with a whole new breed of criminals to contend with. And not across an ocean but right here at home.

This country has been electing crooks ever since someone exclaimed they were not one. If only we could wave a magic wand and take all the monetary gains out of politics we would be left with those who only want to strive for those lofty goals that once were.

I dunno. The last civil war weeded out allot of people with only a fraction of the current population and muskets. A determined group might be able to send jackaloons scurrying into dark holes for awhile at least.
 

Arthur

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Why nobody ever asks how our senators and congressmen enter public service with no money but leave being worth millions ? On a 200k salary . Look at diane finestien her and her husband have billions .

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That, and I don't know what the hell is wrong with people in the individual districts. Good hell, McStain won his Primary again.
not any better in NH. we have a fool for governor, now she's running for senate
 

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I dunno. The last civil war weeded out allot of people with only a fraction of the current population and muskets. A determined group might be able to send jackaloons scurrying into dark holes for awhile at least.

While true, it would take a whole restructuring of the system as is. Like skeene said,"The system is broken." And horribly so.

And while typing this I get no joy from it at all in fact I can feel it a deep, drawn, frown on my face. I just am afraid at this point it is what it is, and it ain't what it ain't.
 
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