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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Tpat591

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We have a winner!
 

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There is no between the lines; it's one line.;) ... and it was pure bullshit.

I know cause I got click-baited into watching the vid.

The FISA Memo has not been released yet.
The entire 99 page memo is on the website. I wasn't talking about a video.
 

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I get all that, but I think you are missing the obvious.

Trump does not have to lift a finger to not give Dreamers amnesty and citizenship. Daca was an Obama EO. Congress was not involved. Trump already nullified the Obama EO with his own EO. That's the end of the story for DACA and Trump does not need Congress or anybody else.

The opposite is true to give dreamers amnesty and citizenship. It requires that Congress pass a law and Trump must sign it.

So, I don't see where Trump has to compromise on DACA. He doesn't need congress or the swamp at all to do what he said he would do. He signed an EO to end it. It's over with, no further action needed.

We have to be careful when we listen to talking head rhetoric. I realize that the politicians and media spin things and make it seem that "deals" must be made. But that is a false reality. The real reality is that DACA is dead with no amnesty if Trump does nothing.

Trump needs funding for the wall. That is on Congress. We all knew that Trump would have a hard time getting funding for a wall and it would be opposed in Congress. If Trump tries and fails to get Congressional funding, that's on Congress, not Trump. Just like Congress could not end Obamacare, that's Congress failure and not Trump's failure despite the libtards trying to blame Trump for a bill he never received.

Trump has complete control. Without Congress, he can deliver half of his immigration policy to deport illegals. He needs Congress to deliver on the other half, border funding. And we already knew the Dims would fight it.

Trump trading amnesty for funding means he still failed on one of his policy promises. But he is deciding which one fails, not Congress if he gives amnesty. He will have done it himself. Trump has a choice. If he gives amnesty he himself has failed on his policy. If he does not give amnesty and does not get wall funding, congress has chosen to take that promise away and not Trump himself.

That's what I mean by Dems getting their way. They win the blame game by getting Republicans to play. They win. If Trump "compromises", he himself is responsible for giving amnesty. Congress will be free and clear. But if he does not compromise, it's Congress fault for not funding the wall. Trump will have delivered on his promise of no amnesty and he will have requested funding for border security. He will have done everything he said he would do. Or tried to. But, no. The R's are pussies and they allow the talking heads to twist it into a lose/lose for Trump and he is falling for it. He will put the blame squarely on himself for amnesty when he could put the real blame of funding on Congress.

And I don't know why pussy Republicans are so afraid of shutdowns. All the Dims have to do is threaten a shutdown and pussy Republicans pee down their legs. I don't get it.
the Republicans aren't pussies they are liars, and meat puppets for the globalists and the Chamber of Commerce.It's time they were buried in the same grave as the DNC.
 

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SOTU was an underwhelming plea to Dems to compromise by an administration selling out it's base. It certainly was not what it should have been. He should have touted his success proudly and vilified the party of obstruction and division the Dems have become and the weak and useless Republicans who have squandered opportunity after opportunity to affect meaningful change. He should have decried Fake News, Wholesale Internet Censorship and Corporate Privacy invasions. He should have touted Pedophilia arrests and the smashing of Trafficking rings in the ongoing battle to eliminate this scourge so the children can grow up in a world free of this threat. Chronicled his administrations exposure of FISA Abuses, battles fought & won in a deep state war in the intelligence community, purging of rouge elements of the FBI, CIA, Justice & other intel agencies reforming them from the Top Down....So many successes & future challenges were never touched upon. Sad Really.

The only memorable line was Americans are Dreamers Too!

Very, very disappointing & weak effort IMHO.

Dems wouldn't stand for anything, not even when Trump said Black Unemployment is at an All Time Low:
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looking as that picture helps me understand what motivated the people of France to drag their ruling class out into the streets and throw them under the blade of the guillotine.
 

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SOTU was an underwhelming plea to Dems to compromise by an administration selling out it's base. It certainly was not what it should have been. He should have touted his success proudly and vilified the party of obstruction and division the Dems have become and the weak and useless Republicans who have squandered opportunity after opportunity to affect meaningful change. He should have decried Fake News, Wholesale Internet Censorship and Corporate Privacy invasions. He should have touted Pedophilia arrests and the smashing of Trafficking rings in the ongoing battle to eliminate this scourge so the children can grow up in a world free of this threat. Chronicled his administrations exposure of FISA Abuses, battles fought & won in a deep state war in the intelligence community, purging of rouge elements of the FBI, CIA, Justice & other intel agencies reforming them from the Top Down....So many successes & future challenges were never touched upon. Sad Really.

The only memorable line was Americans are Dreamers Too!

Very, very disappointing & weak effort IMHO.

Dems wouldn't stand for anything, not even when Trump said Black Unemployment is at an All Time Low:
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Whoa Pat that some harsh criticism from the guy whose been assuring us Trump is a 4D chess master...and the hammer was gonna fall any day now.
 

Tpat591

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Whoa Pat that some harsh criticism from the guy whose been assuring us Trump is a 4D chess master...and the hammer was gonna fall any day now.
What can I say, I had high expectations and all he did was prove you and Time right. Call em as I see em. Speech was no where as good as his last address to Congress. He doesn't need to reach out to a dying Democrat Party for compromise. He needs to reach out to a nation sick to death corruption and show them he is willing to enforce the law and put these criminals behind bars or deport!

His support would triple if he gave both the Dems & Repubs the swift & strong backhand they both deserve.

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What can I say, I had high expectations and all he did was prove you and Time right. Call em as I see em. Speech was no where as good as his last address to Congress.
If you think someone else who could accomplish more in this short time...Please name him/her.
 

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What are the accomplishments?
Judicial appointments not even counting Scotus and regulation reduction and ROE alone are enough....

The utter lack of legislative accomplishments reflect on the other branch of government.

The fact that the real work of presidents doesn't get reported or acknowledged is a BIG part of the problem....... Trump fortunately is able to undo some of the damage done by his predecessor's. Without congress......

THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

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What can I say, I had high expectations and all he did was prove you and Time right. Call em as I see em. Speech was no where as good as his last address to Congress. He doesn't need to reach out to a dying Democrat Party for compromise. He needs to reach out to a nation sick to death corruption and show them he is willing to enforce the law and put these criminals behind bars or deport!

His support would triple if he gave both the Dems & Repubs the swift & strong backhand they both deserve.

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I'd say he's doing pretty fucking good with the deck stacked against him.
 

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He didn’t defeat ISIS, he just stopped arming them

Recognizing Jerusalem means nothing to
Americans unless you are a religious fanatic or Sheldon adleson

Travel ban was symbolic, it’s pretty much over. Did they ever figure out “what’s going on”?

I’m more interested in all the jobs he promised to create, bringing back American companies and draining the swamp.

I guess we all have our own idea of what accomplishments are.
 

Tpat591

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If you think someone else who could accomplish more in this short time...Please name him/her.
I'd say he's doing pretty fucking good with the deck stacked against him.

My point exactly. He accomplished more in a year than many in their entire terms & He has had to carry them all across the finish line on every accomplishment while they lie to his face and stab him in the back. He needs to kick them all in the ass, not hold their hands or reach out to them. He needs to humiliate them, point out their hypocrisy & inaction and challenge them to produce 1/2 as much as he has against all odds if he wants to fulfill his promises & MAGA. He needs to point out they work for the people.
 
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He didn’t defeat ISIS, he just stopped arming them

Recognizing Jerusalem means nothing to
Americans unless you are a religious fanatic or Sheldon adleson

Travel ban was symbolic, it’s pretty much over. Did they ever figure out “what’s going on”?

I’m more interested in all the jobs he promised to create, bringing back American companies and draining the swamp.

I guess we all have our own idea of what accomplishments are.
What in the flying fuck do you expect in his short term in office?

Everything should have been done by now with 100% of demwits and a few repubtards against him?
 

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No didn’t expect much at all, especially with both sides working against him. I simply asked what you considered to be his big accomplishments. No need to get bent out of shape.
 

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What are the accomplishments?
Like I said earlier....try Google...anything which stimulates the economy is one of the biggest accomplishments, especially being self employed. I've hired two more people since he was elected.
 

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Oh, and my retirement account has nearly doubled in value in the past 12 months.
 

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I liked 80% of Trump's speech. 20% sucked. That sounds about right to me. It seems now that most of Trump's original crew is gone, Trump is 20% swamp and 80% America First(Nationalist). A 20% flop in the first year. Should be interesting to see if he swings another 20% this year. He started out strong but the swamp got a piece of him the last couple months.

Maybe he'll only go in knee deep. We'll see. The swamp is deep (state) and sucks most in.
 

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What can I say, I had high expectations and all he did was prove you and Time right. Call em as I see em. Speech was no where as good as his last address to Congress. He doesn't need to reach out to a dying Democrat Party for compromise. He needs to reach out to a nation sick to death corruption and show them he is willing to enforce the law and put these criminals behind bars or deport!

Et tu, Brute? :(
 

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The mindless hate directed at Trump, the total contempt,the obstructionisim from both parties,the ridiculous allegations,the fantasies of violence...are all not being Directed at the man Donald Trump...they are being directed at the Americans who had the audacity not to vote for the shadow goverment,it is coming from the people who have grown rich and powerfull on the backs of the people......don't fool yourself,all the vile being directed at Trump is really aimed at you who voted for him, the people who can't live with the thought of Trump as President are the same people who can't live with the idea of people like you having a voice.
 
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He didn’t defeat ISIS, he just stopped arming them

Recognizing Jerusalem means nothing to
Americans unless you are a religious fanatic or Sheldon adleson

Travel ban was symbolic, it’s pretty much over. Did they ever figure out “what’s going on”?

I’m more interested in all the jobs he promised to create, bringing back American companies and draining the swamp.

I guess we all have our own idea of what accomplishments are.
Take just one of your failures.. the jobs thing....
You do realize it's going going to take longer than 1 years to rebuild all those factories we lost over the last 50 years....

Considering It can take 10 years to permit the driveway.... how long do you think it takes to builds a factory.


Unless you want to have Dictatorship. ... many of his Promises will require congress to vote to reduce the power of the government.

Might take more than 1 year to finish many of the promises. Might even have to do some of them a piece at a time.

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so this is what a think tank gets paid to do.....brilliant....the local bartender could tell you the same for the price of a beer.


If he moves forward on an immigration deal that includes any form of amnesty it could cost him more than 48% of support from his base, according to the poll.


in which case the dems win the mid-terms and Trump gets impeached,........and maybe that was the globalist plan all along. We get a dog and pony show that is supposed to make us believe voting matters and go home and quietly lick our wounds rather than tear down the state.
 

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Take just one of your failures.. the jobs thing....
You do realize it's going going to take longer than 1 years to rebuild all those factories we lost over the last 50 years....

Considering It can take 10 years to permit the driveway.... how long do you think it takes to builds a factory.


Unless you want to have Dictatorship. ... many of his Promises will require congress to vote to reduce the power of the government.

Might take more than 1 year to finish many of the promises. Might even have to do some of them a piece at a time.

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I think he will accomplish none of his goals and things will only get worse. And that will be fault of both sides of the house who are all determined to see him fail. Judging by the memes a lot of you love to post, you all seem to think it’s just the democrats who oppose him and the republicans are all behind him. Is there another shadow gov within the gov that has trumps back? Wake up, everyone is against us, never mind trump.
 

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I think he will accomplish none of his goals and things will only get worse. And that will be fault of both sides of the house who are all determined to see him fail. Judging by the memes a lot of you love to post, you all seem to think it’s just the democrats who oppose him and the republicans are all behind him. Is there another shadow gov within the gov that has trumps back? Wake up, everyone is against us, never mind trump.
yeah..as I posted before the election...I voted for Trump to send a nationalist message to the global elite....but the reality is we are up against a goliath,and I'm not sure our David is up to the task...and I don't see to many in Congress that haven't already sold out to the bankers.I have to say though that Trump's election has been a milestone in alot of ways he has already accomplished more in 1 year than all the presidents in the last 30 years....he has got Americans to question the media, he has exposed them as not just sloppy idiots but evil people bent on stealing the people's voice in goverment and hand it over to a core elite who operate in the shadows...He has put the idea of Nationalisim into the mainstream dialouge, he has redefined the immigration debate, and shown people a glimpse of what is possible, and he has exposed particularly how incredibelly evil and to what lengths the DNC will go to retain power to the extent of excluding the American people from it's constituency for the votes to be bought with illegal aliens and muslim rapeugees.
 
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Who knows ..perhaps the failures of Trump could be the best legacy he leave us...perhaps Trump's defeat will lead to what is happening all over europe..a rise in Nationalist parties winning power, not the lying mouthing bullshit of the GOP but a real Nationalist party, where the party openly and boldly pushes it's agenda instead of meekly and shamefacedly asking permission.Perhaps especially after the crimes the Liberals have committed under the Obama administration their conspiracy to nullify a free election...there will be an acceptance of even Paleo-Conservatives welcomed into the dialouge in politics once again as the public realizes the evil and violence the left is capable of.
 
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