What are you cooking?

[Bliss Doubt]

We are having "breakfast for dinner" (this always includes biscuits and gravy)
When I was very young, I stayed the night at a friend's house. They had leftover spaghetti sandwiches for breakfast... there are no rules LOL
I will admit, after the holidays (all health and calorie issue went out the door) I really do need to eat healthy again.

As much as I enjoy the holidays, the mood, the music, decorations and treats, it's a relief when the they're over, and the gingerbread, fudge and peppermint mocha are all gone, so you can stop thinking you owe it to yourself to put on 5 lbs.

I agree, there are no rules. Love breakfast for dinner. Cold pizza for breakfast is the most important thing you learn in college, right?

 

[Mister]

I'll never understand why pizza gets such a bad rap. It contains all the major food groups depending on the toppings and the most unhealthy part is the cheese, and seriously, if cheese is the most unhealthy thing u eat...

 

[VapeOn1960]

Cooking sausage tonight (Aidells chicken mango jalapeno) Browned first then simmered in dark beer. Baked beans on the side and a nice salad. I got a 24 oz dark beer but only need half for the recipe (sipping the other half now... the rest will set out at room temp for cooking later) Sausage will be served on french bread rolls.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I'll never understand why pizza gets such a bad rap. It contains all the major food groups depending on the toppings and the most unhealthy part is the cheese, and seriously, if cheese is the most unhealthy thing u eat...

I wasn't giving pizza a bad rap. The discussion was about "no rules", how you can have breakfast for dinner, and pizza for breakfast. I was thinking of when you woke up in your dorm room, and the pizza box was still open on the floor from the previous night's study session, with a couple of pieces still in there, cold pizza for breakfast.

 

[Mister]

I wasn't giving pizza a bad rap. The discussion was about "no rules", how you can have breakfast for dinner, and pizza for breakfast. I was thinking of when you woke up in your dorm room, and the pizza box was still open on the floor from the previous night's study session, with a couple of pieces still in there, cold pizza for breakfast.

I didnt mean u, i meant culturally. No one thinks 'im gonna eat healthy and order dominos tonight'...well, i do, but its supposed to be the other way around, so they say anyway, but they say a lot of things

Edit-darnit, now i have dominos friggin stamped in my brain, they r doin that pick one up get 3 dollars off your next one too right now. And yes i readily admit, as far as pizza goes, it is one of the most junkfood version u can get

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Edit-darnit, now i have dominos friggin stamped in my brain, they r doin that pick one up get 3 dollars off your next one too right now. And yes i readily admit, as far as pizza goes, it is one of the most junkfood version u can get

You have spoken before about doctoring up frozen pizza (I think that was you?). I tried these from Costco, and I've been able to doctor them enough to make them satisfactory, but not great.



They're super cheap, so here's my advice if you decide to try them:

They're individually wrapped, so pull out one or two and thaw before heating. Skip the 450 degrees stated on the package, which makes them rock hard. Already thawed, heat them at 350, which keeps the crust soft and chewy. That middle "boat" section has practically nothing in it. Before heating add some mozza or provolone, and whatever else you want. Those little flecks of tomato you see in the package photo are about twice as many as really are in there.

But there are better frozen pizzas, so I'm never buying these again.

 

[Walter Ladd]

I am making my Sorta' Hot Verde Salsa with white wine, jalapenos, roasted garlic, tomatillos and...a secret ingredient! Really good. If anybody wants the recipe I'll post it!

 

[Jimi]

I am making my Sorta' Hot Verde Salsa with white wine, jalapenos, roasted garlic, tomatillos and...a secret ingredient! Really good. If anybody wants the recipe I'll post it!View attachment 200703

That looks and sounds good

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I am making my Sorta' Hot Verde Salsa with white wine, jalapenos, roasted garlic, tomatillos and...a secret ingredient! Really good. If anybody wants the recipe I'll post it!
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I always want the recipe.

 

[Mister]

You have spoken before about doctoring up frozen pizza (I think that was you?). I tried these from Costco, and I've been able to doctor them enough to make them satisfactory, but not great.

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They're super cheap, so here's my advice if you decide to try them:

They're individually wrapped, so pull out one or two and thaw before heating. Skip the 450 degrees stated on the package, which makes them rock hard. Already thawed, heat them at 350, which keeps the crust soft and chewy. That middle "boat" section has practically nothing in it. Before heating add some mozza or provolone, and whatever else you want. Those little flecks of tomato you see in the package photo are about twice as many as really are in there.

But there are better frozen pizzas, so I'm never buying these again.

Frozen pizza is actually one of my staples because i love pizza but preparing food is one of my biggest challenges

For a digiorno take out of freezer, place on bottom rack, turn on the oven at 425 degrees and retun 20-25 minutes later. No preheat nonsense.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Frozen pizza is actually one of my staples because i love pizza but preparing food is one of my biggest challenges

For a digiorno take out of freezer, place on bottom rack, turn on the oven at 425 degrees and retun 20-25 minutes later. No preheat.

DiGiorno is a very tasty brand.

Yah, I never preheat the oven for anything.

 

[Walter Ladd]

I always want the recipe.

Sorta Hot Salsa Verde Recipe
Needed:

Canning Jars – 8-16 oz with lids. And a pot big enough to sterilize them. And some tongs to pull ‘em out.



Ingredients:

• Tomatillos 3 to 4 X the Jalapenos I just fill the bag (3 lbs?) get about 1/3-1/4 jalapenos (1lb? or so )
• Jalapeno Peppers 1/4 to 1/3 the quantity of Tomatillos
• Dry White Wine – A cup or so. Any cheap dry cooking wine will do.
• Knorr Chicken Bouillon Powder – 3 Tbs or so. (This is the secret salty ingredient!)
• Hickory Smoked Salt – 1 tsp or so. 2nd secret ingredient!
• Olive Oil – 3-4 Tbs. preferably Virgin VOO, enough to brown the chopped garlic
• Garlic Cloves – 1 full head, minced small

Preparation:

• Get the big pot boiling for sterilizing the jars and lids. Put in the jars and lids and let them stew for at least 15 minutes while you get the other stuff prepped.
• Put some olive oil in a large pot with a heavy bottom and brown the chopped garlic in the hot oil. Do not let the garlic burn. You want a nice golden brown color.
• Into a blender put the washed tomatillos and jalapenos with enough dry white wine to blend into a course slurry. It doesn’t take much blending. I cut up the Tomatillos and peppers in quarters before putting them into the blender with a little wine. Keep batching the vegs until all are blended. Dump the veg/wine slurry into the pot where the garlic/oil is waiting.
• Add the Hickory smoked salt and the chicken boullion. Heat to a simmer and cook for about 5 minutes or so to sterilize the mixture. Do not overcook as we want the salsa to be bright green and fresh tasting.
• Ladle out the now finished salsa into the hot sterilized jars within ¼ inch of the top and seal with the lids. Let cool, tighten the lids a final time and store in the pantry.

That’s it! Enjoy!!!

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Sorta Hot Salsa Verde Recipe
Needed:

Canning Jars – 8-16 oz with lids. And a pot big enough to sterilize them. And some tongs to pull ‘em out.



Ingredients:

• Tomatillos 3 to 4 X the Jalapenos I just fill the bag (3 lbs?) get about 1/3-1/4 jalapenos (1lb? or so )
• Jalapeno Peppers 1/4 to 1/3 the quantity of Tomatillos
• Dry White Wine – A cup or so. Any cheap dry cooking wine will do.
• Knorr Chicken Bouillon Powder – 3 Tbs or so. (This is the secret salty ingredient!)
• Hickory Smoked Salt – 1 tsp or so. 2nd secret ingredient!
• Olive Oil – 3-4 Tbs. preferably Virgin VOO, enough to brown the chopped garlic
• Garlic Cloves – 1 full head, minced small

Preparation:

• Get the big pot boiling for sterilizing the jars and lids. Put in the jars and lids and let them stew for at least 15 minutes while you get the other stuff prepped.
• Put some olive oil in a large pot with a heavy bottom and brown the chopped garlic in the hot oil. Do not let the garlic burn. You want a nice golden brown color.
• Into a blender put the washed tomatillos and jalapenos with enough dry white wine to blend into a course slurry. It doesn’t take much blending. I cut up the Tomatillos and peppers in quarters before putting them into the blender with a little wine. Keep batching the vegs until all are blended. Dump the veg/wine slurry into the pot where the garlic/oil is waiting.
• Add the Hickory smoked salt and the chicken boullion. Heat to a simmer and cook for about 5 minutes or so to sterilize the mixture. Do not overcook as we want the salsa to be bright green and fresh tasting.
• Ladle out the now finished salsa into the hot sterilized jars within ¼ inch of the top and seal with the lids. Let cool, tighten the lids a final time and store in the pantry.

That’s it! Enjoy!!!View attachment 200713View attachment 200714View attachment 200712View attachment 200711

Thanks.

I've never seen a salsa recipe that called for wine. But wine always brings out more flavors.

 

[Mister]

Thanks.

I've never seen a salsa recipe that called for wine. But wine always brings out more flavors.

I swear i totally thought it was made like in the tostito commercial where they just dump a bunch of diced veggies in a jar and mush it up

(Or the other way around i guess, not on the stove or nuthin)

 

[Walter Ladd]

Thanks.

I've never seen a salsa recipe that called for wine. But wine always brings out more flavors.

Actually, the wine extracts the capsicum from the chilies and gives it a bit of a different bite. It changes the frequency of the heat in a very desirable way. The alcohol is cooked off leaving the grape essence behind which adds a subliminal fruitiness. Truely a magical recipe developed over 20 years!

 

[Jimi]

 

[Jimi]

I made these the other night and they really were the best sweet taders I have ever had. They had a wonderful sweet tader fries taste. I did some like this with thyme and some with cinnamon, both were fantastic

Sweet Potato Out of
This World

This is the only way we eat sweet potatoes!
4-5 sweet potato clean and cut crosswise.
Olive oil
Pink salt/kosher salt
Dried thyme
Baking sheet
Parchment paper
Preheat oven to 400F
Cover the baking sheet with parchment paper.
Sprinkle salt,dried thyme and drizzle olive oil generously on each half and place them cut side down (drizzle some more olive oil on top and give them good massage).
Bake for 40 minutes or till the bottom is caramelized.enjoy!

I borrowed the picture cause my were ate in a flash and didn't think to take a picture but they did turn out just like these

 

[Mister]

Another surprisingly good one

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I made these the other night and they really were the best sweet taders I have ever had. They had a wonderful sweet tader fries taste. I did some like this with thyme and some with cinnamon, both were fantastic

Sweet Potato Out of
This World

This is the only way we eat sweet potatoes!
4-5 sweet potato clean and cut crosswise.
Olive oil
Pink salt/kosher salt
Dried thyme
Baking sheet
Parchment paper
Preheat oven to 400F
Cover the baking sheet with parchment paper.
Sprinkle salt,dried thyme and drizzle olive oil generously on each half and place them cut side down (drizzle some more olive oil on top and give them good massage).
Bake for 40 minutes or till the bottom is caramelized.enjoy!

I borrowed the picture cause my were ate in a flash and didn't think to take a picture but they did turn out just like these

Those can only be described as epic.

 

[Jimi]

Those can only be described as epic.

Thank you

 

[Jimi]

My wife thinks this every time she leaves to do errands

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Eating through expiration dates on prepper cans and packets can be frustrating. I had two cans of Nestle media crema that expired in 2022. While I'm not worried about that, they did need to be cycled out. I'd bought it as prepper milk, but resolved not to get it again because I really don't drink milk, or even use it much in recipes.

What to do with the two expired cans? Well, this is sad, but I found half a head of cabbage at the back of my fridge, moldy on the outer leaves, and about half a large onion with rotty outer layers that had to be peeled off. This travesty, organic vegetables rotting uneaten, happened while I was going through canned food expiry dates. I did peel the veg down to clean, fresh food, sliced it up, also trimmed and sliced a shrivelly jalapeno, and I made creamed cabbage and onion with a little bit of frozen breakfast sausage. I added a generous pinch of nutmeg and red pepper flakes to the saute, then in with the two cans of media crema.

That media crema is great for cooking. In various descriptions you'll see it's supposed to be canned "double cream". It tastes way better than evaporated milk, which I never bought again after tasting it the first time. Media crema isn't sweet like sweetened condensed milk. It really tastes milky-creamy, and the texture is thicker than heavy whipping cream.

This dish I made today for breakfast-lunch was so good, now I want to get more media crema, but I mustn't. It's better for me to have curried mashed potatoes with peas than to have creamy scalloped potatoes. Pasta with creamy sauce is just not something I crave, nor anything I should be eating, but the value of this media crema in easily making creamy dishes is good to know, for anybody who wants to have it in their supplies.

My soup (not much to look at, and I'm showing the leftover, but it's stupendously delicious):



Stock photo the media crema:

 

[Mister]

Heh, i just happen to be watching terminator 2, from the early 90's. They had skynet (the machines taking over or whatever) dated for 2029, so it looks like we are right on schedule and u wont be having to worry about expiration dates for too much longer, lol

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Frozen pizza is actually one of my staples because i love pizza but preparing food is one of my biggest challenges

For a digiorno take out of freezer, place on bottom rack, turn on the oven at 425 degrees and retun 20-25 minutes later. No preheat nonsense.

Omygawd, have you seen the DiGiorno croissant crust? I put my organic resolution on hold when I saw this, had to try it:



It's gooooood. The only doctoring I gave it was red pepper flakes when it came out of the oven all melty. Unlike any other pizza of any kind, it gets better as you approach the wide end of the slice, which is where you can really appreciate the crust texture. After trying it, I would take this over any other pizza in the world.



Here is the crust view to show the croissant layers:



And the plate view:

 

[Jimi]

That does look gooood

 

[Walter Ladd]

Chicken Enchiladas!
Corn tortillas are required otherwise...it's a burrito!

 

[Mister]

Omygawd, have you seen the DiGiorno croissant crust? I put my organic resolution on hold when I saw this, had to try it:

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It's gooooood. The only doctoring I gave it was red pepper flakes when it came out of the oven all melty. Unlike any other pizza of any kind, it gets better as you approach the wide end of the slice, which is where you can really appreciate the crust texture. After trying it, I would take this over any other pizza in the world.

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Here is the crust view to show the croissant layers:

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And the plate view:

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Ive already put on 15 pounds too much.
U r not helping, lol

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I blew a lot of today on a new favorite YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@country_life_vlog/videos

The videos have no dialogue, so I get a feeling of peace, just watching the people cook, make things, build things, chop wood, carry water; watching all of their many kinds of animals and fowl. They cook everything on wood fires. The woman has asbestos hands. She'll just pick up a fallen piece of burning wood with her bare hand and toss it back on the fire. They eat outdoors even when you can see snow on the ground.

The couple can't seem to get enough beauty in their collection of small buildings. One of the vids shows the man making a vertical flower garden in the courtyard, above the many flowering plants already there in pots, then setting up a wood burning stove there, to create a pleasure zone. A window box of colorful varieties of cauliflower looks as beautiful as any box of flowers.

The rooster never shuts up. The little dogs never learn that you can only mess with the cat for so long before it will whomp you across the face with its claws. You're sure that cat is going to fall into the fire one day, as much as he enjoys sitting on the narrow hearth, soaking up the warmth.

These individual vlogs on YouTube are better than anything that was ever done by Food & Wine or Gourmet magazine. I wonder if those rags even still live in in the face of the unlimited opportunity for individual creativity.

Country Life Vlog has 5 million subscribers, with videos going back three years.

 

[Jimi]

I blew a lot of today on a new favorite YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@country_life_vlog/videos

The videos have no dialogue, so I get a feeling of peace, just watching the people cook, make things, build things, chop wood, carry water; watching all of their many kinds of animals and fowl. They cook everything on wood fires. The woman has asbestos hands. She'll just pick up a fallen piece of burning wood with her bare hand and toss it back on the fire. They eat outdoors even when you can see snow on the ground.

The couple can't seem to get enough beauty in their collection of small buildings. One of the vids shows the man making a vertical flower garden in the courtyard, above the many flowering plants already there in pots, then setting up a wood burning stove there, to create a pleasure zone. A window box of colorful varieties of cauliflower looks as beautiful as any box of flowers.

The rooster never shuts up. The little dogs never learn that you can only mess with the cat for so long before it will whomp you across the face with its claws. You're sure that cat is going to fall into the fire one day, as much as he enjoys sitting on the narrow hearth, soaking up the warmth.

These individual vlogs on YouTube are better than anything that was ever done by Food & Wine or Gourmet magazine. I wonder if those rags even still live in in the face of the unlimited opportunity for individual creativity.

Country Life Vlog has 5 million subscribers, with videos going back three years.

Cool thank you for sharing my friend

 

[Mister]

Off topic

 

[Jimi]

I have to have a special diet because of disease and can't have meat because of the acid content in meat so I have been playing around with the dreaded tofu. I tried it years ago and swore I would never eat it again but now have found out I need some in my diet.
After some research I found out how to make it taste edible and learned it's much better to me if in something, like this chickfu (tofu I flavored to taste like chicken) mushroom and rice soup






It really surprised me just how good it was

 

[Jimi]

Then for desert made cacao sweet potato brownies, only 4 ingredients all natural, then wifey improved on them with some coconut flour.
The picture is before the coconut flour (these are a bit gooier but it's amazing what you can cover with real cacao powder


Contents

Sweet tader
Cacao powder (NOT cocoa powder)
Plant based butte
Maple syrup

Next time she makes them with coconut flour I'll post a pic

These do taste amazingly like a brownie

 

[Mister]

I need to get on a better diet starting today.

Official end of the holidays pig out binge i guess.

 

[Jimi]

I need to get on a better diet starting today.

Official end of the holidays pig out binge i guess.

Wishing you the best of luck, since I have been on my diet, other than savin my life, I feel sooooooo much better, healthier.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Then for desert made cacao sweet potato brownies, only 4 ingredients all natural, then wifey improved on them with some coconut flour.
The picture is before the coconut flour (these are a bit gooier but it's amazing what you can cover with real cacao powder
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Contents

Sweet tader
Cacao powder (NOT cocoa powder)
Plant based butte
Maple syrup

Next time she makes them with coconut flour I'll post a pic

These do taste amazingly like a brownie

Yum!

I don't know what made me take a look at this thread today. I haven't been getting alerts for it, but I had the sense that it wouldn't go this long without somebody posting.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I have to have a special diet because of disease and can't have meat because of the acid content in meat so I have been playing around with the dreaded tofu. I tried it years ago and swore I would never eat it again but now have found out I need some in my diet.

May I be so nosy as to ask what it is you need from tofu? I wouldn't touch it. 80 percent of the world's soy is GMO, with all the unintended consequences I won't go into much, but including hormone disruption.

But definitely it can be made to taste good.

You don't have to answer my question if you find it intrusive.

 

[Mister]

Im on a diet, so looking at yalls awesome food kinda sucks atm :-/

I need a giant bulk container of banana chips or somethin

 

[Jimi]

May I be so nosy as to ask what it is you need from tofu? I wouldn't touch it. 80 percent of the world's soy is GMO, with all the unintended consequences I won't go into much, but including hormone disruption.

But definitely it can be made to taste good.

You don't have to answer my question if you find it intrusive.

I need the soy most of all and yes I do buy organic, hard to find but can be had

 

[Mister]

What does soy nut butter taste like?
(From online descriptions im picturing reeses peanut butter cups type taste, slightly smoother and sweeter than peanut butter it says)

 

[Jimi]

I have never tried it but the roasting action adds a more nutty flavor in the soy beans. I would highly recommend if you do try this {thinkin you are gonna just buy a pre made) please buy organic. It truly makes a difference.
Here's some nutritional thoughts on it

6 Health Benefits of Soy Nuts

Soy nuts are a crunchy snack made from mature soybeans that have been soaked in water, drained, and baked or roasted. Here are 6 impressive benefits of soy nuts.

www.healthline.com

 

[Mister]

I have never tried it but the roasting action adds a more nutty flavor in the soy beans. I would highly recommend if you do try this {thinkin you are gonna just buy a pre made) please buy organic. It truly makes a difference.
Here's some nutritional thoughts on it

6 Health Benefits of Soy Nuts

Soy nuts are a crunchy snack made from mature soybeans that have been soaked in water, drained, and baked or roasted. Here are 6 impressive benefits of soy nuts.

www.healthline.com

Well, to try it ill probably buy whatever i can find. I doubt they sell it at giant, which means trader joes. I saw that it has a ton of iron in it. Ill be getting whichever makes a crunchy version if one of them does

 

[Mister]

Sorry jimi, @Bliss Doubt where did u find that croissant pizza in stock, im back within range, lol

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Sorry jimi, @Bliss Doubt where did u find that croissant pizza in stock, im back within range, lol

I got it at my HEB. I think it sells out because I haven't seen it there again. You might ask your favorite grocery store to order it for you if you're not seeing it in stock.

 

[Mister]

DIGIORNO...WTF...3 PACKS AT SAMS AND COSTCO....

 

[Mister]

And get to work or a godd**** chicago crust, lol

Edit-i think i might do truvala, if they offer an atkins diet and price lock, probably definitely,

im sorry if it offends anyone but i am actually pro-gmo (just not all willy nilly, there a right way and a wrong way to do everything) and mostly ambivalent to organic, half the time the only difference is the label and the price. Not saying truly organic isnt better for u, of course it is, just that a lot of it is a lie.
The only thing im really against is the drugs ranchers use in our meat supply (arguably out of necessity because of just problems in the ranching industry as a whole)

Jimi, u can leave a frowny or mad face at me if u want, im just being honest. Hopefully ppl here can deal with it.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

im sorry if it offends anyone but i am actually pro-gmo (just not all willy nilly, there a right way and a wrong way to do everything) and mostly ambivalent to organic, half the time the only difference is the label and the price. Not saying truly organic isnt better for u, of course it is, just that a lot of it is a lie.
The only thing im really against is the drugs ranchers use in our meat supply (arguably out of necessity because of just problems in the ranching industry as a whole)

It's difficult for me to explain to people, in discussions, that while I believe my body can handle a lot of stuff, GMO, pesticides, herbicides, petroleum based fertilizers, all of the chemical inputs to what has become conventional agriculture, it's what these things do to our shared planet, the glyphosate run-off causing miles long and wide dead zones in rivers and oceans, which get larger every year. It's the pesticides and glyphosate that cause cancer and sterility in agriculture workers, and in the consumer in the longer run. It's the atrazine that is causing sperm counts and penis sizes to shrink gradually to 20 percent of what they were 20 years ago, the hormone disrupting effects of which are confusing to people coming up in the world. It's the killing of soil micro-organisms and beneficial insects. It's the death to wildlife.

These are my own concerns. We all eat a lot of GMO and chemical inputs, myself included, unless we are painfully super aware and always on the alert. We get it mainly from restaurants, even if we're careful of what we grow and what we bring from grocery stores into our own homes. There are very few restaurants that boast of organic food.

It's hard to keep clean eating resolutions, and organic does cost more, though as organic food growing has increased, the price of organic has come down.

 

[Mister]

It's difficult for me to explain to people, in discussions, that while I believe my body can handle a lot of stuff, GMO, pesticides, herbicides, petroleum based fertilizers, all of the chemical inputs to what has become conventional agriculture, it's what these things do to our shared planet, the glyphosate run-off causing miles long and wide dead zones in rivers and oceans, which get larger every year. It's the pesticides and glyphosate that cause cancer and sterility in agriculture workers, and in the consumer in the longer run. It's the atrazine that is causing sperm counts and penis sizes to shrink gradually to 20 percent of what they were 20 years ago, the hormone disrupting effects of which are confusing to people coming up in the world. It's the killing of soil micro-organisms and beneficial insects. It's the death to wildlife.

These are my own concerns. We all eat a lot of GMO and chemical inputs, myself included, unless we are painfully super aware and always on the alert. We get it mainly from restaurants, even if we're careful of what we grow and what we bring from grocery stores into our own homes. There are very few restaurants that boast of organic food.

It's hard to keep clean eating resolutions, and organic does cost more, though as organic food growing has increased, the price of organic has come down.

Oh no doubt...people misunderstand what gmo means. A gmo can be organically grown and be just as healthy or more so, and produce a heatier more productive yeild without the need of all those chemicals..it might be what saves the planets food supply.

Selcetive cross breeding takes longer and is much less precise than the technology available today, and imho, we are out of time without that technology.

The 'non-gmo- campaign going on at the moment is just that, a marketing campaign, because people misunderstand it.

(It reminds me of car com.ercials i used to see with ppl say, i dont know what mpg's are, just that i want more of them.

Seriously..you drive and dont know what how many miles per gallon you get means?

EDIT- i wanted to clarify i do not feel the same way about gmo animals, that needs to be handled very carefully, but again, if it reduces the need for the hormones and antibiotics, to allow them to grow as healthy as free range, it might be what saves the ranching industry as well

(For example: animals genitically engineered to grow to a specific exact size would have prevented the supply chain issue during the pandemic)

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Oh no doubt...people misunderstand what gmo means. A gmo can be organically grown and be just as healthy or more so, and produce a heatier more productive yeild without the need of all those chemicals..it might be what saves the planets food supply.

Selcetive cross breeding takes longer and is much less precise than the technology available today, and imho, we are out of time without that technology.

The 'non-gmo- campaign going on at the moment is just that, a marketing campaign, because people misunderstand it.

(It reminds me of car com.ercials i used to see with ppl say, i dont know what mpg's are, just that i want more of them.

Seriously..you drive and dont know what how many miles per gallon you get means?

EDIT- i wanted to clarify i do not feel the same way about gmo animals, that needs to be handled very carefully, but again, if it reduces the need for the hormones and antibiotics, to allow them to grow as healthy as free range, it might be what saves the ranching industry as well

(For example: animals genitically engineered to grow to a specific exact size would have prevented the supply chain issue during the pandemic)

Genetically modified plants have never increased crop yields. It has never been documented once. GMO makes food crops immune to sluicing with herbicides, which pollutes the water, soil and air. It kills the weeds, theoretically, while leaving the plant intact, but has resulted actually in "superweeds", tractor breakers.

For some crops, GMO institutes pesticide into every cell of a plant, such as corn, so the pest insects drop dead while eating them, but the corn, the crop waste and all becomes toxic to water, soil and humans. There are natural pest deterrents that are not harmful to the soil, air, water, wildlife and humans, which are used in organic farming, and there are time honored methods such as honoring the micro-climate and soil conditions where you are growing crops.

I have followed the supply chain issue during the so called pandemic, and I find much of it was engineered, and continues to be engineered, as the regulating authorities force their way onto farms and use the inaccurate, useless pcr test to condemn farm animals and force the slaughter of them, millions of them to date. That's a much bigger, wider, longer conversation for those who have not watched the left hand while the right hand was doing things.

These conversations are difficult, but if you consider that humans evolved hundreds of thousand years, to robust populations with robust immunity, without pesticides, herbicides, chemical fertilizers and massive mono-cropping, you realize that many of the promises of chemical/GMO agriculture are just covers for profit motives, mainly on the part of the innovators and sellers of those methods and products, and not at all on the part of farmers who become entrapped by them.

That the world is running out of food is just another selling point of chemical/GMO agriculture, with nothing to do with the truth that countries with starving populations grow food for export to foreign tables, while countries with abundant food still import it from other countries at the environmental cost of petroleum based transport. The ability to eat well depends on having money to buy food, or having land to grow food.

 

[Mister]

Genetically modified plants have never increased crop yields. It has never been documented once. GMO makes food crops immune to sluicing with herbicides, which pollutes the water, soil and air. It kills the weeds, theoretically, while leaving the plant intact, but has resulted actually in "superweeds", tractor breakers.

For some crops, GMO institutes pesticide into every cell of a plant, such as corn, so the pest insects drop dead while eating them, but the corn, the crop waste and all becomes toxic to water, soil and humans. There are natural pest deterrents that are not harmful to the soil, air, water, wildlife and humans, which are used in organic farming, and there are time honored methods such as honoring the micro-climate and soil conditions where you are growing crops.

I have followed the supply chain issue during the so called pandemic, and I find much of it was engineered, and continues to be engineered, as the regulating authorities force their way onto farms and use the inaccurate, useless pcr test to condemn farm animals and force the slaughter of them, millions of them to date. That's a much bigger, wider, longer conversation for those who have not watched the left hand while the right hand was doing things.

These conversations are difficult, but if you consider that humans evolved hundreds of thousand years, to robust populations with robust immunity, without pesticides, herbicides, chemical fertilizers and massive mono-cropping, you realize that many of the promises of chemical/GMO agriculture are just covers for profit motives, mainly on the part of the innovators and sellers of those methods and products, and not at all on the part of farmers who become entrapped by them.

That the world is running out of food is just another selling point of chemical/GMO agriculture, with nothing to do with the truth that countries with starving populations grow food for export to foreign tables, while countries with abundant food still import it from other countries at the environmental cost of petroleum based transport. The ability to eat well depends on having money to buy food, or having land to grow food.

Thats an perfect example of the wrong way to do gmo's..just done for profit, willy nilly, woops, now we have poison water

(What about something less toxic that does the job...nicotine...#tomacco lol, j/k)

The issue i was referring to during the pandemic was that animals have to be shipped at the exact size so they can fit it the butcher machines, if there is a delay and they grow bigger they can no longer be sent to slaughter and have to be butchered locally by hand, causing a mass of food where it comes from, and a lack of food where it needs to get to.

Edit-btw, thank u, i was not aware that was the gmo stuff they were doing, plants that grow pesticides built in, i wanna know more about that

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Thats an perfect example of the wrong way to do gmo's..just done for profit, willy nilly, woops, now we have toxic water

(What about something non toxic that does the job...nicotine...#tomacco lol, j/k)

The issue i was referring to during the pandemic was that animals have to be shipped at the exact size so they can fit it the butcher machines, if there is a delay and they grow bigger they can no longer be sent to slaughter and have to be butchered locally by hand, causing a mass of food where it comes from, and a lack of food where it needs to get to.

Edit-btw, thank u, i was not aware that was the gmo stuff they were doing, plants that grow pesticides built in, i wanna know more about that

The best way I know of to get yourself fully informed is to subscribe here:

USA | Organic Consumers Association

www.organicconsumers.org

It isn't my only source, but for many, many years it has been my best source. It has a wealth of archived articles about the unintended consequences of GMO, and the risks and dangers.