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zephyr

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But that’s wrong spelling of “metre”


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Their wire should give me more flavour and more colour ;D

And more vapour, of course
 
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gsmit1

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Lifted from Reddit from 6 days ago:

Lightning Vapes Stepped Up Their Spooling Game

We've been working for over a year and a half on precision winding all of our wire. From new equipment, to new methods, to even a custom made spool mold and more resilient plastic material. We now have the capability to wind nearly perfect layer over layer wire up to 40 AWG and up to about 250-500', even 1000' up to 32 AWG.

We've spent a LOT of time and money in an effort to produce excellent quality, built for purpose, plastic spools. The new spools we are producing have thicker flanges and barrel, and are made out of ABS plastic. (We are still experimenting with more rigid materials). One huge problem with winding fine wire, is that it requires significant tension in order to produce layer over layer winding. In the past, this has plagued us because the thin, flimsy polypropylene spools we once used were inconsistently made, and bowed under moderate tension. With these new custom spools that is no longer the case, and precision winding is now possible. Just take a look at what we are now able to achieve! These new spools are STILL DAEDALUS COMPATIBLE!!!

The new custom spools are only being used for 30 AWG - 40 AWG. For 29 AWG and below however, we are using an already on the market American-made spool. Both new spools have much in common over the cheap flimsy Chinese spools of the past. They are polypropylene, however they are thicker, sturdier, wider, and much more precise. We are confident that with the many angles we've attacked spooling problems from, today you will not find better spooled wire anywhere on the market.

 
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MrMeowgi

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All that work and money. It's still going to be a messy spool when the wire slips from our fingers. And we have a mess to re-wrap.
I have no issues with wire I use for the cores. For the wrap wire spools I use spool tamers. Wrap it around the spool and keeps it from unspooling

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MichaelPhillips

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I have no issues with wire I use for the cores. For the wrap wire spools I use spool tamers. Wrap it around the spool and keeps it from unspooling

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I was referring to the Lightning Vapes Stepped Up Their Spooling Game.. Wasting money and over a year of time. Coming up with new ways to wrap there spools.... You wrap the wire from left to right. No art to it...
 

zephyr

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I was referring to the Lightning Vapes Stepped Up Their Spooling Game.. Wasting money and over a year of time. Coming up with new ways to wrap there spools.... You wrap the wire from left to right. No art to it...


It's that simple, eh? Which wire store is yours, I want to order some from you to try out
 

MichaelPhillips

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I don't make it.. I just use it.... But i have re-wrapped lighting vape spools more than a few times. Keeping it tight looks as good as new....
 

Jenn F

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i have had good and bad wire from kbee. the first stuff made my fingers black (which doesnt really matter because i clean the coils before i use them no matter how clean the wire looks/feels), and was poorly spooled. the higher gauge stuff was troublesome. i could feel kinks passing through my fingers as i built, and experienced a lot of breaks.

tried them again and they have a new logo, no black fingers, and so far so good in terms of spooling and breaks (perfect wire so far).

heres a pic. old logo on the left, new logo on the right
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im not saying its great or good or bad, or better than anything else...just noting a huge change from one order to the next.

I've got three spools from them. No problem at all with it. Maybe it was just stored away and got dusty as heck. Mine came in clean then I bought from another company. Pirate Coil....Clapton, Alien and another, can't remember right off hand (away from home).

Pirate did fine two days ago on a build and came in with dual plastic wrap on the coiled wire. Liked that extra step..
 

Jenn F

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I have no issues with wire I use for the cores. For the wrap wire spools I use spool tamers. Wrap it around the spool and keeps it from unspooling

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You answered the very thing I was pondering to ask. Where did you get those for the wire? I had one a few weeks ago that sprung open on me and lets just say I didn't have time for that to happen! I didn't have time to wrap it back up nicely either, looks like heck!!
 

Jenn F

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@WPMac Thank you so much!! I cannot stand wire uncoiling on me!! Then I get OCD about the unkept wire..LOL Going to amazon now! :)
 

nathanstokes

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Thought I'd add another source for those of us in the UK/Europe (at least until Brexit anyway). After having all the same complaints about Crazy Wire listed over and over above (never filthy, but rarely clean wire; carefully setting aside a spool, turning around and hearing the dreaded "BRAAAAAAAAANG" as it de-spools itself) I thought I'd give Juice Junkie a try. Had bought some coils from Custom Vapes when I was in there (great shop, great guys, as an aside) that were made using that wire, and they lasted and lasted and lasted.

Picked up some 28, 38 and 0.3 ribbon (all Ni80) and I've been really pleased with it. Clean, zero unspooling, ribbon doesn't come off the spool straight, but the bend's not bad and easy to straighten. I did have the 38 snap once while fusing, but I think that was my mistake - usually fuse with 36. They've got SS316L, Kanthal A1 and Ni80 in round and ribbon, Ni90 in round, and paraspools in SS316L and Ni80.

Have only bought the smallest spool sizes, as it was a tester purchase, but will definitely be buying from them again. Further knock against them for people who build a lot, I guess, is they only sell smaller spool sizes - 26g comes in 50m max.; 28g in 100m max; 36 & 38g in 200m max). If you want larger spools, or some of the less used metals, I guess Stealth Vape is the place to stick with. Also I emailed them prior to purchase about where they source their wire and didn't get a response.

But all in all, pleased with the wire - the staples I made, while aesthetically not as pleasing as the ones I've bought from Interstellar Vaping (a great place to pick up coils if you're buying someone else's), the flavour's on par, so if they last the way the ones I bought, I'll be a super satisfied customer.
 
Sorry to all for reviving a relatively old thread, but I can't find this info ANYWHERE, and this thread seemed most appropriate.

Can anyone direct me to a possible source for PREMADE Titanium coils? I'm perfectly capable of safely wrapping my own, but I've moved beyond the experimenting/hobby side of making coils and very much prefer the simplicity of premades, but I'll be damned if I can't find ANYWHERE that will do premade titanium coils. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 

Synphul

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Sorry to all for reviving a relatively old thread, but I can't find this info ANYWHERE, and this thread seemed most appropriate.

Can anyone direct me to a possible source for PREMADE Titanium coils? I'm perfectly capable of safely wrapping my own, but I've moved beyond the experimenting/hobby side of making coils and very much prefer the simplicity of premades, but I'll be damned if I can't find ANYWHERE that will do premade titanium coils. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Maybe more fitting as a standalone post in the building section, this one's more about sources of wire. They might be difficult to source because titanium isn't overly popular so chances of builders offering them are slim. It's getting better but even stainless and ni80 were harder to source from premade stuff, it was mostly kanthal. It tends to be more expensive than other wire types and can be more prone to health issues if overheating them, you don't want to dry fire titanium and get it too hot, risk buildup of titanium dioxide. Is there a reason you dislike stainless? Since you're looking for TI I'm assuming you're using temp control since that's all titanium should be used for.

If there's some reason you still prefer titanium I found some but they're basic coils. I mean for the price and given they're simple coils you'd be better off just getting a spool of titanium wire from like Lightning Vapes and using a coilmaster jig that nearly wraps them automatically just twisting the handles. Would take all of 10min if that to whip out 10-20 coils.
https://www.vapininthecape.com/Premade-Vape-Coils.html
 

WPMac

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Sorry to all for reviving a relatively old thread, but I can't find this info ANYWHERE, and this thread seemed most appropriate.

Can anyone direct me to a possible source for PREMADE Titanium coils? I'm perfectly capable of safely wrapping my own, but I've moved beyond the experimenting/hobby side of making coils and very much prefer the simplicity of premades, but I'll be damned if I can't find ANYWHERE that will do premade titanium coils. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
The wire is not impossible to come by, though if your looking for specific gauges it can be difficult. Finding a builder (or company) that makes coils out of it is hard. It is a sketchy alloy for vaping because it is more dangerous than other alloys because even the slightest bit to hot and your releasing BAAAAD mojo. It is also an expensive metal, as stated by @Synphul . So finding someone willing to shell out the money to get a wire to make into coils to sell, that 1 in a million will buy, is unlikely. You better off to do what is stated above. Buy spools yourself and wrap them up. If your looking for fused coils then you may have to pick up a drill and learn if you want them that badly. Or you may be able to find a builder willing to use your materials to make coils for you. But round trip shipping and crafting fees may come out to be pretty expensive for you.
 

R.Savage

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I'm looking for a good retailer in Canada or Alberta that has fantastic stock of wire. 24 g wire of any sort around here seems to be rare.

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