Become a Patron!
Womper Woom Wejects
- Thread starter coolerat
- Start date
Hey Mikey! Great to see you!Just wanted to pop in and say HEY TO EVERYONE while I have the chance!
@Atchafalaya I wanted to quote the pic of Fernando you posted a couple days back, but can't find it
Hes coming along now, Fer will make some great Bacon!!!
Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
I've used that word occasionally too.
I've used that word occasionally too.
The Predator 228 is too heavy, almost 260g with batteries in, I have a serious problem with mods like that, especially in dual config, I would rather use my finder DNA 250 which I still love to bits, although the paint on the top of mine was a bit piss poor..
Trouble with me just lately is I'm enjoying my little Alien mod with the Nano tank at 45w, I do want to try the OBS Engine Sub though for those lazy days when I just want to chuck a coil in and vape, I'm pleased they changed the coils too, there fused clapton now, 60 - 65w, job done and I can still run it on the Alien..
but yeah, that Nano setup is just too dam good so I can't seem to justify buying anything at the moment.... kinda weird for me, even the Postman asked if I was OK lol
Trouble with me just lately is I'm enjoying my little Alien mod with the Nano tank at 45w, I do want to try the OBS Engine Sub though for those lazy days when I just want to chuck a coil in and vape, I'm pleased they changed the coils too, there fused clapton now, 60 - 65w, job done and I can still run it on the Alien..
but yeah, that Nano setup is just too dam good so I can't seem to justify buying anything at the moment.... kinda weird for me, even the Postman asked if I was OK lol
Mr postman look and see
Is there a new mod in your bag for me
I've been waiting such a long time
Since I've heard from that vape shop online
The beatles...still relevant!
Is there a new mod in your bag for me
I've been waiting such a long time
Since I've heard from that vape shop online
The beatles...still relevant!
For the record...I'm aware that it was originally by the marvelettes. But once the beatles do something it becomes theirs!
Yup! Exactly those! 
Enlarged the holes in the sleeve to match those in the base on my SXK Hadaly.
Much nicer to suit me.
Much nicer to suit me.
@Eskie @USMCotaku I'm tagging you two because I suspect you are the most likely to have some experience or knowledge in this area
@Rixsta and you because you work in a shop where you might have heard about such issues
Anyone else with viable knowledge, of which I am currently unaware, are most welcome to chime in here.
OK, here's the quandary. I have about a dozen mods sitting on my desk. Some are crappy little tiny internal battery things (e.g., iStick 30W - two years old and still chugging along just fine) and some are big heavy 18650 things (e.g., SXmini M class) and various pieces of tolerable junk in between. I know the routine is "supposed to be" that when not in use, save the juice - turn it off. However, I routinely do not do the five-click routine after sucking them, so they all sit by the keyboard in "on" mode waiting for me to sample one flavor or another. All of them, except one, have a "normal" battery life - that is, how long the battery lasts is directly proportional to how much I actually use it (i.e., press the fire button at whatever wattage it is currently set to).
One of them, however (an iStick TC40W, set in straight old watts mode) routinely drains to totally dead battery within four days even when it is not used at all. If (BIG IF) I actually turn it off between sucks, the battery shows the same percentage of available power as the last time it was used the next time I turn it on. That is, the battery only drains when not used IF the unit is left on, which obviously implies there is a drain occurring even if it is not being manually fired.
So, my question is: Is it more likely that the mod is lightly heating the coil continually, or is there a short on the circuit board that is draining the battery when the unit is turned on? As yet, I have not tested the drain rate with the mod on and no tank attached, but that was to be my next test. What do you guys think?
@Rixsta and you because you work in a shop where you might have heard about such issues
Anyone else with viable knowledge, of which I am currently unaware, are most welcome to chime in here.
OK, here's the quandary. I have about a dozen mods sitting on my desk. Some are crappy little tiny internal battery things (e.g., iStick 30W - two years old and still chugging along just fine) and some are big heavy 18650 things (e.g., SXmini M class) and various pieces of tolerable junk in between. I know the routine is "supposed to be" that when not in use, save the juice - turn it off. However, I routinely do not do the five-click routine after sucking them, so they all sit by the keyboard in "on" mode waiting for me to sample one flavor or another. All of them, except one, have a "normal" battery life - that is, how long the battery lasts is directly proportional to how much I actually use it (i.e., press the fire button at whatever wattage it is currently set to).
One of them, however (an iStick TC40W, set in straight old watts mode) routinely drains to totally dead battery within four days even when it is not used at all. If (BIG IF) I actually turn it off between sucks, the battery shows the same percentage of available power as the last time it was used the next time I turn it on. That is, the battery only drains when not used IF the unit is left on, which obviously implies there is a drain occurring even if it is not being manually fired.
So, my question is: Is it more likely that the mod is lightly heating the coil continually, or is there a short on the circuit board that is draining the battery when the unit is turned on? As yet, I have not tested the drain rate with the mod on and no tank attached, but that was to be my next test. What do you guys think?
The mod is fine. The chip in the mod is the type that constantly sends out a "carrier signal" checking the atty for resistance. Many mods do this, it's listed as the "standby current", the more expensive mods use a super low current, which will give you minimal battery drain (though if you left the mod unattended long enough, it WILL eventually drain, but in some cases this could take months. It just sounds to me like the iStick isn't as frugal with battery power for its standby signal.
Even ye olde Provari 2.5 is the same. Although there is a "lock" mode to prevent accidental misfires you cannot actually turn the thing off. As long as it has a battery installed it will drain it - used or not. Normal for certain devices - but annoying.
Considering the Beatles version didn't even chart while both the Marvelettes and even the CarpenterS version made it to number 1 on BillBoard's Hot 100 - I would have to strenuously disagree with you on that one.
The Beatles version was never released as a single due to John and Paul not wanting to get on the charts with songs they didnt write. They actually gave away a song they recorded first but didnt write because they knew it would be a #1(and it was), "How Do You Do It" was recorded by the Beatles first but was released by Gerry and the Pacemakers.
That said, you're right that they never made the charts with that song and so I cant argue with your logic, but for personal preference I take the Beatles over both other versions!
I agree with @USMCotaku that this can be normal for any regulated mod. My biggest question would be whether or not it has always done this(for as long as you've had it) or if this is something new. The internal battery will act the same as any other rechargeable battery when nearing the end of its life and wont hold a charge for as long. It would be much more noticeable under regular daily use. If its draining over the course of 4 days without being fired, I dont think that you have anything to worry about just yet.
I think you are giving them too much credit for control over their career at this point, considering this was only their second album.
"Postman" was released on 2 different singles - one for the Japan market (Odeon) and one for Canada (Capitol and - neener) The Japan single was backed with Money (That's What I Want), the Canadian version with Roll Over Beethoven.
As this was only 1963 I don't think the American market knew quite what the hell to do with them yet.
Perhaps I am giving them too much credit for how much control they had over their career at that point. I do know that both Lennon and McCartney have explicitly stated numerous times that they had wanted their first #1 in the US to be a song they had written themselves. Was it up to them? I have no way of knowing, other than the fact that their first #1 in the US was indeed written by them(I want to hold your hand). I also remember an interview in the Anthology movies where Paul was talking about the song How Do You Do It, which they did record before Gerry and The Pacemakers. In the interview he said that both he and John knew that it would undoubtedly become a #1 hit(which it did in the UK, just not by them) and they did not want to be a one hit wonder. They claimed that the song didnt suit their sound and George Martin gave the song to Gerry and the Pacemakers.
At the end of the day, it doesnt really matter to me how much control they had over their career at that point. I still prefer their version of Postman over the other 2, not that I dislike the other 2 version, I enjoy them very much. I also prefer the Beatles version of How Do You Do It, among other songs they never wrote. For me personally, the Beatles understood song writing on such a level and their musicianship was such that they could take any song and make it their own.
At the end of the day, it doesnt really matter to me how much control they had over their career at that point. I still prefer their version of Postman over the other 2, not that I dislike the other 2 version, I enjoy them very much. I also prefer the Beatles version of How Do You Do It, among other songs they never wrote. For me personally, the Beatles understood song writing on such a level and their musicianship was such that they could take any song and make it their own.
Last edited:
I think @USMCotaku has it covered well, but I might be a bit more concerned than the others. Standby shouldn't kill a battery in only 4 days, even an inexpensive mod. More likely the internal battery can no longer hold as much of a charge, so what should take a week (or well more) is happening in only 4 days. I have a bunch of mods sitting around from expensive down to a Pico, and in my laziness I almost never turn them off. I can pick my Pico up after weeks of collecting dust and still have a full charge on the battery. Might be time to be thinking about retirement on that mod after long service in many long vape sessions. Maybe it'll like Florida.
Yup yup, mod chip checking resistance and probably combined with the fact the battery is aging and draining quicker, can't hold the charge as well..
OK, guys, there is a minor piece I left out of the original post (which Darth brings out): I have two identical (except for color) iStick TC40W mods that are "approximately" the same age (who knows if one sat in a warehouse for many months longer than the other before the delivery date - blah blah blah etc.). In the beginning, they both worked exactly the same, but the situation I described above has only started happening in the past month or so. One of them will keep its charge almost forever while the other dies in just four days (when left "on"). Perhaps that "bad" one's battery is just going downhill quicker than the other. Taking it apart and replacing the battery (can these internal-only types be purchased separately?) should not be a problem (a few hex screws and a dab of careful soldering). OR I can just stop being lazy and turn it off every time I get done sucking on it until it finally meets its demise, THEN disassemble and play the fix-it game. Thanks for your input.
many of those cheaper internal battery mods use an 18650 sized cell, so you could easily replace it with a different 18650 battery, maybe even a higher mAh battery
That would certainly make it easy...
Piece of cake! And, amazingly enough, I have a black one and a wood-grain one, so maybe when I get around to replacing the battery on the black one, I'll do some upgrade to the appearance.... OK, maybe not another wood grain... maybe metallic red or purple or... (time will tell).
Nice find on the video @USMCotaku !
It looks like the cell inside isn't fully wrapped. Not 100% sure but if you do take yours apart @Draconigena just be careful to treat it as an unwrapped cell until you know for sure. Wouldn't want it shorting out on you while you're swapping cells.
It looks like the cell inside isn't fully wrapped. Not 100% sure but if you do take yours apart @Draconigena just be careful to treat it as an unwrapped cell until you know for sure. Wouldn't want it shorting out on you while you're swapping cells.
If it is the same cell they used in the istick 20/30 watt, they are wrapped, but the wrap is metallic coloredNice find on the video @USMCotaku !
It looks like the cell inside isn't fully wrapped. Not 100% sure but if you do take yours apart @Draconigena just be careful to treat it as an unwrapped cell until you know for sure. Wouldn't want it shorting out on you while you're swapping cells.
Ahh ok. I couldn't tell cause I'm watching on my cell phone at work(not that my computer would be much better).
yur buggin me mister, stop it!
purple......definitely purple!!
I sea ewe tew (I must be missing Gary)I see you Deb!
lmao......that was hilarious! pretty sure you can pitch woo in an igloo, but I hear sometimes it richo-shits off the walls.
Can ya tell us yet when and where yur goin??? Others live vicariously through you with your vape purchases. I'm happy with my gear other than wanting one or two more 016 attys, but I live vicariously through you with your travels!
thanks darlin! and hehehe Still kinda illin, but feeling wayyyyyy better than I was.
roflmao! I'm proud of ya! but still not sure you're entirely well
Well, I have to say it's only been one full day, but I'm really liking this AL85. Looks are great, no thinking about "will the tank fit?" battery life is decent, 40W ~6 ml juice and still a quarter charge left. The Pico is great, and the price is extremely low as it's flooded the market, but while the AL85 is a good deal more money (I can get a Pico no tank for $21), I think I like it better (don't throw things at me 
). I think another addition or two for my stash will be warranted. At least once I can get it without the BB, just the mod. The BB is nice, guzzles juice as bad as a Limitless+ RDTA, great cloud, but not enough to maintain a stock on another set of factory coils.
There, Rixy, happy now?
). I think another addition or two for my stash will be warranted. At least once I can get it without the BB, just the mod. The BB is nice, guzzles juice as bad as a Limitless+ RDTA, great cloud, but not enough to maintain a stock on another set of factory coils.There, Rixy, happy now?
Thanks for the caution, Darth.
What I am about to say is based on 25 years in the electrical and electronics industry, but it still is likely to piss off a few people and make some other afraid... IF the electronics of any given unit is properly designed and laid out... IF the engineer and/or technician is knowledgeable and cautious... IF joe average user wasn't dumb as a brick... none of these batteries needs any kind of plastic wrap or tape on them. I know those were some pretty big IFs and because we live in a sue-happy society, and every manufacturer feels the necessity to cover their asses against user stupidity, therefore all batteries come with some sort of insulation around them. In most batteries of the type used in vaping mods (or flashlights), the entire outer casing has the same voltage potential as the negative contact surface, so the only insulation required is between the positive terminal and the outer casing. So those who tell you to throw away a battery if even the slightest bit of plastic peels away are full of shit. Then again, there is always some dumb fuck who will drop it in his pocket with his car keys and pocket change and blame the resulting pants fire on the manufacturer... soooo.............
Umm the negative is switched between the neg batt contact and the case in Tube mechs.
Do you have a schematic for that conditional use? I'd like to see what they think they are doing and why. If you have a fully insulated battery, there is no reason why such a setup wouldn't work, but there also is no reason why they should do it that way. And, given that [unregulated] coils are not directionally limited in electron flow, you should be able to put an uninsulated battery in there upside down. Schematic diagram required for verification purposes, of course.
I always thought "upside down" would make more sense for multiple reasons. Reason one, anyone with a tad of electrical theory experience can tell you, power flows OUT of the negative, IN through the positive, so putting the out (-) closer to the posts just makes sense to me (though I know it doesn't mater ultimately). Reason two, the 18650 type cell vents at the positive pole....all the tube mechs with vent holes have them.....down by the bottom button.
Going purely on my education for Mech use, NEG towards the atty and POS at the switch is generally not advised. I use mechs and always have POS at the atty. If venting occurs and not thermal runaway then the holes are meant only to give the gases an escape route. If thermal runaway happens then the holes aint gonna do shit anyway. The reason we go POS towards the atty is because most switch contacts on mechs are quite large as compared to the pin by the atty(or the pin on the atty in a faux hybrid), if there is a damaged insulator ring on the cell, then my understanding is that the larger diameter of the switch contact could contact the POS and NEG at the same time and cause a hard short.
On the left is the switch, on the right is the pin for the connection. Again, Im going by what I was taught by people on ECF (Mooch included) in my early vaping days.
I hope this helps.
Well, before a battery vents, it swells......if enough, it will block off those air holes. But, if those holes are right near the (+) end, the battery swelling wouldn't block the escape path.
Any battery with a damaged insulator ring shouldn't be used, period.
Definitely agree on all of that. Its often recommended to drill your own venting holes at the top of your tube mech. According to Mooch(I quote him a lot when talking battery stuff), if a battery vents its not overly eventful and there wouldnt be much gas escaping. Its thermal runaway that causes violent venting and enough pressure to blow the mech out. If thermal runaway happens then not much can save your mech, your atty, or anything else thats within range.
I only have a couple mech mods, and they were purchased in the remote event of a vapocolypse - we have never used them. I did examine them before they went in storage, however, and they did not look as large/crude as the pic Darth just showed. Are you folks using antiques by any chance, or are most mechs designed this way?
I did do some scratching on paper a few minutes ago for "potential" schematic layouts and if, as Crom says, the switch allows the negative end of the battery to use the case for electrical flow (as opposed to spending a whole penny to install a wire in there), then my previous suggestion of turning the uninsulated battery upside down would not be advisable. Short city! Perhaps it is just my prior background that finds this type of connection philosophy as irrational, but I also do not see the need for mechs to be caveman proof. No, that is not a slam against mech users. It is the basic design - it looks like a wheel made of stone so it won't break in a society where high-speed radials are the norm. Yeah.... my bad!
I did do some scratching on paper a few minutes ago for "potential" schematic layouts and if, as Crom says, the switch allows the negative end of the battery to use the case for electrical flow (as opposed to spending a whole penny to install a wire in there), then my previous suggestion of turning the uninsulated battery upside down would not be advisable. Short city! Perhaps it is just my prior background that finds this type of connection philosophy as irrational, but I also do not see the need for mechs to be caveman proof. No, that is not a slam against mech users. It is the basic design - it looks like a wheel made of stone so it won't break in a society where high-speed radials are the norm. Yeah.... my bad!
Thats the switch and connection from my favorite(most used) mech! Its old for sure and I only paid $10(CAD) for it, but its exactly what I want in a mech. Its got all copper contacts and an adjustable floating pin for the 510 connection with an extension attachment. There are much nicer tube mechs on the market for sure and they have been becoming less expensive lately since nobody uses them anymore so I may just end up with a few new pieces soon. For me its all about the connection, if its not copper or silver, with an adjustable pin at the 510, I dont want it, not matter how nice the mech looks. I dont do hybrid or faux hybrid either so the adjustable pin is important to me. The switches on tube mechs come in many different sizes but they are often pretty wide.
I did find a schematic of how mechs work...
Not everyone likes mechs...but I sure do!
One of the many reasons I love the slotted door on my Reos. Well, only have a slotted door for one of them at the moment, but that's the one I use most of the time. But even with a regular door I feel like there is plenty of room for any gasses that vent to make their way down to the squonk hole. Feel totally safe with my Reos.
Hugs and Howdys to everyone!
Yep, I can tell you now as Emma is in prison so I know shes not stalking us anymore, I'm going to my villa in Tenerife with Emmy and the kids, need to get away from all this rain here..
Vape stuff, yup, it's very weird to have not ordered or have anything coming but the Alien Al85 and the nano is so perfect with a single fused clapton at 48w, there is nothing that can replace it. I am having a wrap made for the mod and absolutely loving Goose Juice from Quacks juice factory, wow, just an amazing juice and you can buy it in concentrates and mix your own, got a nice 400ml bottle steeping, this whole setup is perfect..
Well, I have to say it's only been one full day, but I'm really liking this AL85. Looks are great, no thinking about "will the tank fit?" battery life is decent, 40W ~6 ml juice and still a quarter charge left. The Pico is great, and the price is extremely low as it's flooded the market, but while the AL85 is a good deal more money (I can get a Pico no tank for $21), I think I like it better (don't throw things at me
There, Rixy, happy now?
I knew you would like it, happy, not quite as you need a Nano tank for it
You will love that tank and you don't need as much wattage as the BB and you will have more juice and it lasts longer, it also looks awesome on the AlienYou know me, to stop me buying vape gear, it has to be something special, you simple don't need a dual coil setup as this beats it, I have not used my normal engine once since getting the Nano.....Oh and of course, it doesn't leak making it perfect on the Alien AL85 to take out and about.
I'm using combed organic cotton mixed with Rayon and it wicks like a dream, plenty of vapor, flavor is outstanding,(better airflow design than the dual engine), single coil, easier to build, great airflow, more battery life, less juice consumption, yeah, you get the picture lol
I have bought some battery wraps for my Sonys, they are looking a bit worse for wear, all this money I am saving seems to be making Emily's shoe collection grow though
I'll post a few pics of my mod wrap when it arrives, other than that, ain't got nothing to report..
Morning Y'all
oh my.........she's in prison? What on earth happened? Unless ya'd rather not go into it. Glad y'all will be getting a nice vacay. How long ya gonna be gone and when ya leavin? Will miss ya though!
a friend on the porch loves a couple of his juices. I know one he loves is a chocolate of some sort.
It's too messy to discuss here but hopefully she will get help now, Emily went to see her and they kind of got some things sorted, no matter what she has done or the trouble she has caused, it's still her sister and we do care, I have to take a little responsibility for it myself, it was a very difficult situation last year.
Ah, a guy on the porches, your talking about Gizzard Juice, I like it and I'm not a fan of chocolate but this is very smooth, almost like an Oreo biscuit but I prefer Goose Juice, it's so good.
Considering the squonk hole in the door of any Reo is about the size of a postage stamp I'd say we're pretty safe there when it comes to a possible battery vent.
You sure don't have to search for a vent hole on that one.