Anyone got some thoughts on SMOK TFV4?

[Raistlin908]

Anyone have a tfv4? Is it all that it's hyped up to be? I have the atlantis v2 and mega, running the .5 coils,but want to upgrade for higher watts, is it worth it? Or should I just stay where I am for the money?


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[Vapin4Joy]

I caught a YouTube review on the tfv4 and the reviewer said in his opinion it was a novelty and the cost of the juice needed would be more than your car payment.
Check out the Uwell Crown, it's a winner.

 

[Discobob]

I love mine and if your buying a tank for vapor production it usually will drink juice that's kinda what it is made for.......If your looking for low wattage tank this is not it. It's a great tank and most of the complaints make no sense to me, they are all complaints about what the tanks main purpose is.

 

[Raistlin908]

i want huge flavorfull clouds, sucking the juice down doesnt really bother me. I've been thinking about tge crown too, is it better than the Atlantis v2? I've heard many different opinions on which way to go with tge crown vs atlantis v2. I really want big clouds lol

 

[Vapin4Joy]

i want huge flavorfull clouds, sucking the juice down doesnt really bother me. I've been thinking about tge crown too, is it better than the Atlantis v2? I've heard many different opinions on which way to go with tge crown vs atlantis v2. I really want big clouds lol

Hey, just for the hell of it I pushed the Crown .25 to it's listed limit of 120W a couple of nights ago. I'm still recovering, massive clouds, it chucks.

 

[Mattp169]

crown/maganus/tfv4/starre are probably the best tanks for flavor and clouds

youd be happy with any of them versus what you have.

you have gto look at the differences in them all

crown has SS coils and ni
many feel SS has a better taste then kanthal, but not all agree

maganus/starre are teh same tank sold under 2 different names - the have kanthal coils and ni200...

the ni200 coils of the magus/starre and crown are practically identical.

IMHO owning both - the main difference between getting a starre/magus or a crown is the SS vs Kanthal

I admit i think SS does give some flavors - like fruits a cleaner taste - but my chocolate flavor is pretty much the same between SS and Kanthal

The tfv4 is a beast it will have ss coils soon
and is the only tank with
kanthal,ni,and ti coils plus a single coil and dual coil rba deck
plus have all these other coils like a prebuilt clapton,triple,quad, and sextuple coil

the maganus/starre and crown only have a single coil rba deck.

I would explore all of these tanks in detail
and decide what do you think you would use, ss,kanthal,ti,ni,triple etc etc and then figure out which tank suits your needs the best including cost of the tank, availability of prebuilt coils if your not making your own, and cost of replacement coils.

Any of these tanks is gonna drink juice. the tfv4 will drink the most if using the triple,quad or sextuple coils, but they will all use about the same with single and dual coils

the maganus/starre and crown use prebuilt dual coils
the crown does have a 1.2 single coil ss option as well
the tfv4 does also offer a single and dual coil prebuilt as well

but what makes the flavor imho with these tanks is using the double coils regardless of which you choose
i feel a dual vertical coil like the starre/maganus and crown and TFV4 use gives a much better flavor regardless of the metal versus any single coil

 

[Mattp169]

Hey, just for the hell of it I pushed the Crown .25 to it's listed limit of 120W a couple of nights ago. I'm still recovering, massive clouds, it chucks.

i took mine to 100 on teh first day. didnt get much more clouds the at 95 watts lol

 

[Vapin4Joy]

i took mine to 100 on teh first day. didnt get much more clouds the at 95 watts lol

I did about 5 or 6 prime pulls first and just about flooded the coil, oh boy!

 

[Mattp169]

tbh
i didnt find taking it above 85 watts gave a significant increase in clouds or flavor, i felt it topped out at 85. I think the air tube and drip tip and my lungs just couldn't do any more

 

[Raistlin908]

So, you guys prefer the .25 coil on the crown? Or you liking another?

 

[AmandaD]

So, you guys prefer the .25 coil on the crown? Or you liking another?

The .25 is my favorite - I was totally hooked on TC before I found that, and now TC seems unnecessary!

 

[Mattp169]

ive only had teh crown a few days
but i prefer teh .5
but for a reason
the .5 can give me about the same flavor at 65w as the .25 at 80 watts
so
lower watts = longer battery life and less juice

but Im still experimenting and YMMV

 

[Raistlin908]

What mods are you guys running with them?

 

[OneBadWolf]

I've been a great fan of the TFV4, its my favorite tank. However, a member here bought the TFV4 kit, and BOTH his glass were chipped on the edges. I hope he starts a thread on this. He's pissed, and I actually feel bad having recommended it. I still think its a great tank, but I would not buy another unless I could examine it first.

Its hard to imagine how 2 could fall through QC. I hope the vendors start putting the reps feet to the fire, as I had a sticking firebar on a smok X Cube 2 (easy fix) and emailed them 2X a month ago and have not heard a thing from them.

Smok, fix your shit.

 

[BLACKTOOTHGRIN]

I was the unlucky guy that ended up with this wonderful specimen of Smok's QC department.
Here's some pictures to show exactly what I was given for my hard earned dollars :

All I did to end up with this mess was unscrew it to put in the dual rba coil.
As soon as I turned it I heard CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH!
And when it came apart there were shards of chipped glass in the bottom section.
Had I not opened it first and chosen to use the already installed coil who knows if those shards would have been on the inside of the glass, gotten into the juice and worked their way up the chimney while I was chucking away!

You can also see where the shitty ass base o-ring is all broken apart just after unscrewing the thing and removing the glass ONE friggin time!
Just ridiculous. I thought to myself...well it comes with spare glass and another o-ring, maybe I'll just put those in instead of dealing with the hassle and time of going through an exchange process. I pulled out the spare glass...and THAT ONE was chipped on one end too.
At that point I CALL BULLSHIT! SCREW THIS!!!
Its obvious that QC isn't checking what they're sending out the door, and they're over tightening the living piss out of these things at the shop!
Thats THE ONLY EXPLANATION for this and the busted up o-ring.
Not to mention using SHIT MATERIALS!

Think this is an isolated incident???
THINK AGAIN!
Watch this video:

I actually saw this video prior to buying the tank as well as another video review that mentioned this problem. I thought...well maybe they just did that on the prototype tanks possibly that were sent out ahead of time for review without making final adjustments on things...
and since I hadn't heard of any problems from forum users I hoped the problem was corrected. WRONG!

They're sending these tanks out like this still guys.
So buyer beware! And if you plan on buying one...you'd better make damn SURE you buy the Full Kit with spare parts and not the Single kit that doesn't have any!

Whether or not Ill get any resolution from the place I orded it from is still up in the air.
And they are supposedly a good stateside shop. Im not gonna bash them unless they do me wrong...so we'll see. But for being a "good" stateside shop , having your number not listed and only means of contact being email...doesnt sit well with me straight out of the gate.

Something else worth mentioning is the new TFV4 MINI will be coming out at the end of the month. If you look at those pictures of it, you see New Bright Red O-Rings and maybe a different seal system instead of these shitty white ones on the very bottom like the existing TFV4
Hmm...kinda makes you wonder doesnt it?

 

[Tepid]

Love my TFv4, and yes it is a juice hog, but a single coil build isn't as bad and still produces enough vapor and flavor for me. Also, one tank was chipped but usable, and the other is not cleanly cut.

I agree they have some major QC issues.

 

[Mroutlaw]

I have the tfv4 and it's amazing. Tons of coil options. If you use the tri or quad coil, you'll need to keep it over 30-35 watts for anything decent, but it really shines over 60watts. I prefer the tfv4 over the crown because of the rba deck. I love tanks, but prefer to be able to make a lot of my own coils as well. The crown makes you buy the rba deck separately, whereas if you buy the full tfv4 ($40 a many places), you get the single rba deck and the dual is about $8.

The rba deck on the tfv4 is the only one that I've found that doesn't make the tank drop in performance. I've tried the one for the crown, and it doesn't keep up at higher wattages. Neither does the triton, or many others. I've pushed the dual coil rba on the tfv4 to 120 watts with no dry hits at all after 10 consecutive vapes


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[Mattp169]

yeah im looking to get a tfv4 eventually just because of the coil options and the 2 different rba decks

 

[cubey]

I have a couple of TFV4 tanks ordered due to all the hype but to be honest, they are going to have to be super beasts to beat my Herakles tanks. I can run high VG in them and they don't stutter at all. I am interested in TFV's because of the rebuildable deck aspect but word on the street is that Sense is coming out with one for the Herakles


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[OneBadWolf]

I have a couple of TFV4 tanks ordered due to all the hype but to be honest, they are going to have to be super beasts to beat my Herakles tanks. I can run high VG in them and they don't stutter at all. I am interested in TFV's because of the rebuildable deck aspect but word on the street is that Sense is coming out with one for the Herakles

You probably won't like them. I'll take one off your hands for half price.......

 

[centella4u]

TFV4 is still my most favorite tank, and to say I have at least 20 or more types. At the moment, the only bad thing I can say is that the o-rings suck. My top black one stretched after I soaked it in soda water the second time. You have to be really extra careful when dissamble and reassemble it. Two or three of my friends have already broken the glass tube, luckily they include a spare one for you, but not the o rings so my friends still use tfv4 but all I can do now is look at it everytime I sit down to enjoy vaping.
As for the cloud and not minding its liquid consumption. You can't go wrong with it. Right now it has 8 different kinds of coils to suit your need. I haven't got a chance to try them all but I will.


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[cubey]

You probably won't like them. I'll take one off your hands for half price.......

I will be sure to keep that in mind and let you know when the fire sale is

 

[PremiumVapeSupply]

The Smok TFV4 is definitely a great tank, we have it on our secondary set up over here at PVS. We've heard several complaints about QC, our full kits had bad RBA heads with cracks in the PVC or damaged threads... If it's done right, it's a great tank, but also a juice guzzler. Running at 44 watts and on the quad coil, you burn through 5mL's faster than Usain Bolt can run.

I'll give an unbiased take on it, the Smok TFV4 has a lot of great features and great flavor and vapor, but the durability, the resilience of the Uwell Crown does takes my bet 100%. Plus on wattage, power and e liquid, you get everything you need from the Crown. Maybe when a better battery comes out, and coils last longer, the Smok TFV4 may excel.

 

[OneBadWolf]

For anybody with bottom O-ring problems, I hope this helps. The Subtank (not the Subtank Mini) bottom O ring fits the TFV4, If you are in Canada, you can order a spare TFV4 Bottom O ring here:

https://www.wheatlandvapor.ca/store_detail.php?ProdID=10332&ccsForm=shopcartAdd

They don't ship to the US, and their minimum order is $10. They are very nice people to deal with. So any Canadian vapers, check them out. I've had mine over a month now, and have had no problem with the O ring. I expect the problem is from overtightening at the factory, resulting chipped glass/tearin of the ring, or users overtightening. Several times, from habit I've tightened mine to the extent, I gad to grip the top off the tank with a rubber glove to unscrew the base, and the ring survived.

I also put a drop of VG in the groove before I screw it back together after cleaning. None of this changes the fact that QC at Smok is sad. Still have not gotten an email from Support at Smok after 3 weeks now.

 

[SirVtHondaGuy08]

I love my TFV4, I've been using it with the Ni coils and love it. I just got the quad TFQ4 coils today and hate them, I primed them and everything and they produce a horrible burnt taste. I've tried 2 different juices and am at 60watts(rated for 40-140). I'm definitely going back to my Ni coils.

Sucks I had such high hopes for that coil too :-(

Edit: just tried the same juice but in my Mutation and the flavor was amazing, not burnt.

 

[OneBadWolf]

I just got the quad TFQ4 coils today and hate them, I primed them and everything and they produce a horrible burnt taste. I've tried 2 different juice

I found the quad takes a while to get rid of the cotton taste, at 40 watts I'm suprised you got vapor. I found that the quad didn't "wake up" until about 80.

 

[SirVtHondaGuy08]

I found the quad takes a while to get rid of the cotton taste, at 40 watts I'm suprised you got vapor. I found that the quad didn't "wake up" until about 80.

It's horrible tasting

 

[OneBadWolf]

Horrible, or burned? Sounds like you got a bad coil.

 

[SirVtHondaGuy08]

Horrible, or burned? Sounds like you got a bad coil.

Yah, can't even taste the flavor of it at all

 

[Myk]

I love my TFV4. I don't notice it being a juice hog either (single RBA TC). It does make some clouds.
The thing I like about it, I can use a flavor I could only taste with dripping before. Could barely taste it in gennies, couldn't taste it at all in SubTanks

On twitter we've noticed it has 3 different bases (at least). Mine can't be closed, you end up with 8 large drill sized holes. Another is large with good airflow. Another is smaller with someone complaining about a tighter airflow.

Some people have issues with it leaking. Not the RBA (which I had insta-dump on my first build, pack that sucker with cotton, the feed holes are huge). Some of the bought coils are leakers. I've only used the non-RBA to test for a guy who had leaking problems.

24mm, just right for my D2's.

 

[Raistlin908]

I pulled the trigger on the Crown tank, still thinking about the TFV4, probably will pick one up if there's a sale


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[Raistlin908]

Update GLAD I got the crown, tank blows clouds!! Thanks for the info guy!!!


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[PuffPuffPass]

TFV4 is still my most favorite tank, and to say I have at least 20 or more types. At the moment, the only bad thing I can say is that the o-rings suck. My top black one stretched after I soaked it in soda water the second time. You have to be really extra careful when dissamble and reassemble it. Two or three of my friends have already broken the glass tube, luckily they include a spare one for you, but not the o rings so my friends still use tfv4 but all I can do now is look at it everytime I sit down to enjoy vaping.
As for the cloud and not minding its liquid consumption. You can't go wrong with it. Right now it has 8 different kinds of coils to suit your need. I haven't got a chance to try them all but I will.


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Odd, mine came with spare o-rings. I've had no leak issues either. I'm using the RBA exclusively, and getting great results.

The triple and quad coils seem pointless too me. Except to be a huge juice drinker, and battery killer. Although I understand people are raving about those coils. I'll stick with what works for me.

 

[MrScaryZ]

Anyone have a tfv4? Is it all that it's hyped up to be? I have the atlantis v2 and mega, running the .5 coils,but want to upgrade for higher watts, is it worth it? Or should I just stay where I am for the money?


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Yep its a beast I use it all the time cant beat it the quad coil head took me putting at 130 watts and was still going

 

[PuffPuffPass]

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Some people have issues with it leaking. Not the RBA (which I had insta-dump on my first build, pack that sucker with cotton, the feed holes are huge). Some of the bought coils are leakers. I've only used the non-RBA to test for a guy who had leaking problems.

24mm, just right for my D2's.

Those HUGE channels where the first thing that caught my attention I saw that one coming, and made sure there was plenty of cotton.

 

[Myk]

Got another. They only had a dual RDA. I don't really notice bigger clouds with TC but it does use a little more liquid and battery.

 

[Sahara54]

The TVF4 is my favorite tank so far. I'll agree the quad coil tastes horrible till it gets "broke in" but that only took about half a tank. That's even with a few priming pulls and letting it sit for over an hour.

 

[VapeRN]

I'm enjoying mine with the triple kanthal coil at 85w. Huge clouds and good flavor. As long as you keep the top fill gasket dry, the top cap stays in place or you can use a vape band around it to be extra sure. I've played with the single coil RBA and was disappointed with the anemic airflow, but the flavor was still good. No leaking from the RBA with proper wicking. This is a tank I use sparingly when I'm on the go and don't want to drip but still desire warm dense vapor.


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[MrScaryZ]

I just put the quad coil in at 85watts its very very Niiiiice

 

[Mroutlaw]

yeah im looking to get a tfv4 eventually just because of the coil options and the 2 different rba decks

There's actually 3 rba decks now. In addition to the single and dual coil ones, there is also one for Clapton coils

 

[MrScaryZ]

There's actually 3 rba decks now. In addition to the single and dual coil ones, there is also one for Clapton coils

REally you know the part number or where to get it? I like that idea

 

[Tepid]

I have searched for the Clapton rba, and no-one has it. Not even sure Smoktech has them. There is a term for that called Vaporware. It exists in advertising but never produced.

 

[Mroutlaw]

I have searched for the Clapton rba, and no-one has it. Not even sure Smoktech has them. There is a term for that called Vaporware. It exists in advertising but never produced.

It's produced. It will be in the full kit for the tfv4 mini. The mini version comes with a 6 coil head, a Clapton coil head and the Clapton rba deck. The Clapton rba is called the Tf-rca

 

[Tepid]

Hopefully we will be able to get it for the regular TFv4. A larger lead hole deck is needed.

 

[Myk]

Hopefully we will be able to get it for the regular TFv4. A larger lead hole deck is needed.

I'd want it for regular coils, I like the design better than the regular single coil RDA.

 

[OneBadWolf]

I'd want it for regular coils, I like the design better than the regular single coil RDA.

The Dual RBA is quite spacious, and can take claptons.

 

[Myk]

The Dual RBA is quite spacious, and can take claptons.

I use TC on everything and don't see a use for duals (or understand what that does for TC other than use more battery and liquid). I like the build of the dual (not so much the way it traps two wires), just not duals.
The single RBA's legs are freakishly long. I haven't had a problem but also made sure I packed cotton around them so they wouldn't be a bare wire hot spot.
The RCA I saw has the elevated screws to shorten the legs.

 

[OneBadWolf]

The single RBA's legs are freakishly long.

One more option, since you already have the single...

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/new-tfv4-vertical-coil-rba.141246/#post-721162

 

[Myk]

One more option, since you already have the single...

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/new-tfv4-vertical-coil-rba.141246/#post-721162

I like the single's vape and battery life.
Vertical could be an option to get more wire in the dual to get the ohms up to my normal level. I'm not sure if that would fix the needed higher temperature but it may come out so the amps aren't killing the battery so fast.

I also thought of drilling some holes to trap thinner gauge but I think the screws are too short.

 

[BLACKTOOTHGRIN]

Looks like SweetVapes finally got the White bottom O-rings in:

http://sweet-vapes.com/tfv4-base-glass-or-o-ring.html

They're only letting you buy them with a black top o-ring included rather than just letting you buy the White Bottom O-rings separately,
(which is complete bullshit since you can buy the Black Top O-rings separately
from them)
but at least they are available SOMEWHERE State Side now.