Greetings fellow vapers. My name is Joel and I am the majority owner of J&D Tech Group, llc. aka E-Cloud Vapes and ChemNic.
First, I'd like to say Happy Mother's Day to all the wonderful mothers out there.
Second, I'd like to thank Teresa for starting this thread in support our our business, ChemNIc. I would also like to thank everyone in this thread who has purchased our product and given us a chance to become your supplier. We truly appreciate each of you and your support.
I'd now like to address an earlier comment of negativity. Since we all participate in forums or groups related to vaping, I believe it's safe to say that at one time or another we've encountered a person who just seems to have a hard on to degrade either someone or someone's business. Well, when it comes to that person for our company, meet "Lisa" aka Smoky Blue.
We initially encountered Lisa in 2014 when we opened our first vape shop. A small little shop in upstate SC. We were 1 of only 3 or 4 at the time. We had little money for advertisement so, we turned to social media. Specifically, Facebook and a closed group named "Upstate SC Vapers". Little did we know we'd stepped into a hell hole. At the time of our joining, Lisa was an admin. At first the group seemed fine. Until, that is, my 19 year old daughter posted a picture of herself beside her car to display the snow that was falling. Because her car had a magnetic sign with the E-Cloud Vapes logo on the door, Lisa attacked her accusing her of advertising. Needless to say hundreds of people came to my daughter's defense. They all left the group and formed a multitude of new groups. No one could figure out why some vape shops were allowed to advertise and, others wasn’t. Well, everything done in the dark eventually comes to light. It was later discovered that she was getting kickbacks in the form of vape gear. If you didn’t send her vape gear you couldn’t advertise. As a result, she was removed from the group completely.
To address her allegations, I will be the first to admit that I struggled with alcoholism for a number of years. As a result there are things in my past that I completely regret. If there were a way to go back and change parts of my life I definitely would. However, nothing of that nature has ever affected my business as she seems to claim. Moreover, neither my partner nor myself have ever filed for bankruptcy. So, I’m not sure where she’s getting the information she claims she “knows” but, it’s absolutely false. In fact, should she read this thread, I’m willing to offer her $1000.00 cash if she can substantiate any of her claims. If she can do that, I will give her $1000.00 no questions asked. If she can’t , well, that’s libel.
She also claimed we mixed in a Dr’s office. That’s only partially true. We did, in the beginning, rent a space in a medical facility. It wasn’t a lab nor did we ever claim it was. However, we felt that it was better than mixing in store. Approximately 2 years ago we had our own facility built complete with all the necessary elements including air exchange equipped with HEPA filters, dehumidifier, temperature control, sealed walls and floors and much more. The room stays a constant 65 degrees year round. Although completely compliant, that is not where the nicotine we sell is processed. We contracted with a third party bottling company. They handle the 99.9% nicotine and break it down in their own lab. We then fulfill orders as they come in. Regardless, I think there is too much emphasis placed on clean rooms. I say this because every time you open your bottle of juice in public, you’ve just exposed it to whatever elements surround you. This is not to say that I disagree with juice being made in sanitary environments. I completely agree with it.
It is much to my regret that any of this even came up. I will never understand why some people get off trying to ruin what someone else has busted their ass to achieve. Some people just can’t handle other people’s success.
In any event, again I apologize that you had to deal with such childish rhetoric from a known lunatic. I guess, however, it is what it is and we wanted the chance to set the record straight.
Thanks again to everyone who ordered or who will order. We truly appreciate your business and will always go above and beyond to take the very best care of our customers. We didn’t survive with three vape shops for almost three years doing anything to the contrary.
Kind regards,
Joel
. I really have nothing to complain about thus far about the quality. The explanation you gave about the processes clears things up for me. If I have anything to critique would be to seal the bottle tops. My liter was received in perfect condition. So take that for what it's worth. Glad to do business with you, Welcome to the Vaping Underground. 
