), and a SSFC. Just simple stuff.
that's more than helpful dude.. confirms my thinking.. I've seen people with charts and equations and such, like for 3 core you use one of the cores, for every core you add after 3, you go down 2 gauges or some such, I hardly remember. I'm like you, I guesstimate.. look at my cores and eyeball it lolFor the most part you always want that 3:1 ratio. Because I'm not really familiar with what .3 equals as far as width goes with round wire what I do is guesstimate. I take the decore size I think is going to work and I clip three pieces of it and tape them parallel to each other. I then hold those three wire up to the ribbon stack and if those three wires are the same width as the ribbon stack I know that's my decore. If the three wires are less wide I go a little lower in gauge and try again. If the three wires are wider than the ribbon stack I go a little higher in gauge until I find the closest three wires that equal the width of my ribbon stack when they are parallel to each other. That's how I do it, it seems to work for me, I'm sure there are other people that could give you a more mathematical answer. If I'm somewhere in the middle and I have to use either a slightly higher gauge or a slightly lower gauge I choose the lower gauge cause if you can get that to catch you end up with even wavier aliens then if you were to go a straight 3:1. For example for 5 core aliens I use a 22 gauge decore even though the alien math states I should use 24g. I hope this is somewhat helpful, but no doubt someone will see this and give you a more scientific answer on how to figure out the decore for ribbon wire. This is just the method I use and it does work.
beat me to it, damn work lol. though I'd have went with sheThat's what He said
Hahaha. That's great. I have had a couple instances. But i thought it was cuz i had a full well. Usually though not bad.
or could try winding ribbon round to close up those gaps think that’s a called a tiger coil ..... erm I’m useless with the names of coils 
the one with twists and ribbon....haha
prettiest section was Sunday night, hurt to unwrap it to try again lol
I got nothin today. Tried that 20 ply stapelien two more times, then drill died while I was making my Third decore
I'm gonna order that Hitachi corded and a drill press vice later on today, and get some nice noise blocking earbuds if it's obnoxiously loud
I ordered more wire already, now I need a drill that won't die or wobble... Also Finally fixed my messed up spool of 46
Yeah but it’s just the initial outlay then it gets cheaper, that’s what I keep telling the missus anyway ....shhhhh don’t say anything she reads mindsI can't wait to get into making the coils. I hand twisted my coils cuz i don't currently have a drill. But soon, i will have a drill and i'll be giving the tiger coil a try. I am curious about the ramp up times, though. I really like using my mech mod but i have noticed that without the VW control it takes a little more time to get the coils ramped up; that is when they're more complicated. Twisted, Parallel, or Regular no problems ramping up with the mech mod. Even a 26/32 clapton isn't too bad. But i tried these dragon skin pre-made coils and i couldn't take the ramping and i quickly switched them out.If you ever do find it a problem clapton over the top of them sorts it out
I hear you guys. I keep telling my brother to quit smoking because vaping is so much cheaper. But i can't help but find something more and something new, or another this or that. If i'd just vape the fluids i have and quit buying more just for the collection, it's like $50 a month. I used to spend more than that a week on smokes.
Too true. Raymo told me he only really likes the vape off a staged alien or an alien stagg. Every other builds is for shits n grins
yeah, if i can correctly identify where i fucked that up, my next run should go better. my first try at 28/36 looked like this too, three tries later i got a 'clean' pair.
i dont either yet
what worked for me on the 28/36 one was to start out making clean alien wraps, then i pulled my angle ahead a little until the reflection on the shiny clean wraps stopped shining, and then tried to hold that and finish the pass of wraps as fast as possible. that seemed to work on the 40, but its harder to judge and you have half as much margin for error. i think i psyched myself out and over-thought it into oblivion...lol yeah, i just ordered $200 usd in wire (with shipping/customs/exchange rate it came to $300 cdn)...and i need a new drill too. how am i supposed to afford new mech mods and atomziers?!
yeah there is a balance of coil mass and output voltage that makes building for mechs tricky. thats one of my favorite parts of all this...sometimes all it takes is to just drop a wrap, or take it down a step in diameter on your coil jig to balance out (just watch your resistance). other times, you have to recalculate your build with different materials or gauges to get it working.
what have you tried so far? using series setups kind of wrecked everything else for me for a while because i liked it so much more. after i took my first few puffs off that og noisy cricket/petri 1.5, everything else felt like the batteries were dead or something. i really like a shorter, harder drag though. if you are the type who likes a mellower/longer style of drag it might be harder to come up with a build that performs properly for you. you might wanna shoot for .6 or .7 ohms (i am usually a little under .4 on two batteries and under .3 on para-series and my builds sound like a warzone as soon as you hit the switch). series mods actually made other setups feel like im standing there sucking my thumb if my drags take longer than 2 seconds...like why is this taking so long? why isnt it screeching or crackling?
we are here for you man
we are here for you man
yup, time to grab a setup thats working nicely and go do something else. i think it was ray that told me 'go outside' when i was starting out. i didnt have a yard at the time, but i was living on a lake, so i went and sat on my porch and looked at the lake until i wasnt mad any more, then i went back to work and everything went smoothly. also, consider making an offering to the build gods while youre at it
3x 26g/36g is a good place to start unless you go smaller 3x 28/38...as a general rule of thumb I always try to keep the outer wrap +10 of the cores since it’s acting as a heat sink anyway and it’s helpful to have it heat and cool at a similar rate the the cores
It's already colored, but sunlight and my camera make all metal look blue anyway lol
And look what turned up today.... Hopefully get some tighter alien staggs now
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I happen to love low resistance single coils. I'll do a (6).5 x .1 with 26 gauge frames and 36 alien binding off a 26 decore and the vape I get is just fantastic. Big clouds and big flavor.
I like the larger single coils because they're fairly easy on the battery and can perform as well as a nice dual coil if the wire configuration is right. Still yet to find the perfect one myself but the adventure sure is fun haha
.3 is fine for staple coils. i like it better because its a bit higher in resistance and you can get away with using more plies of it without going too low. definitely have a look through the staple thread for some tips on prepping a stack of that, and get your maple syrup ejuice out
