So, them Chinese have finally done it. YiHiEcigar is coming out with a true DNA40 clone - one that has temperature control: the SX350J chip:
Well hell! Now I guess I'm gonna have to check these out.So, them Chinese have finally done it. YiHiEcigar is coming out with a true DNA40 clone - one that has temperature control: the SX350J chip:
Or, simple Engrish striking again...
I know... and I agreePS.... Midniteoyl...
That wasn't a rant about what YOU are saying... it was about what they say all too often and you were simply passing it on...
The language barrier excuse is only good up to a point... just as with law issues, ignorance is no excuse... the same holds true with scientific terms. If your language has no definition for a word... you first need to understand the exact definition of the word or term before you start using it and then you add it to your language.
They either have cloned the temperature control or not... if they have there was no reason at all to excuse them for using a different term or word. If they didn't clone the temp control... they need to say that and explain what they really mean or better yet, get help from someone who does understand the word or term they are choosing to use beforehand.
I agree, I still do not like the use of the joules value which does not lend itself to common understanding.
This is not a clone its a authentic yihi board. A clone would be a board trying to replicate Evolvs looks and functions.Why is it a clone?
Taking an idea and improving on it is not exactly the same thing as copying a design.Well it's not in the sense that the design is authentic. But the temp control function is a clear "me too" feature: I doubt very much YiHi had engineers in R&D who came up with the idea and developed it independently at the same time Evolv did.
Hmm wonder if this fits in the IPV Mini???
Evolv was awarded a patent for Electronic vaporizer that simulates smoking with power control. Doesn't mean they invented power regulation but they did patent it. I don't know if they have applied for separate patent for power regulation with temperature protection as it may be included in the original patent award:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130104916
I am aware of one claim to develop a temperature control e-cig prior to the -40, somewhere in EU if I remember correctly, but they never brought a product to market and I do not know if it was patented or if they are continuing to pursue it at this point. So kudos to those that bring stuff to market.
You're right... Layman terms.Power isn't measured in Joules. Energy is.
nice lookingLimwell supposedly has a few new Temp controlled mods coming out 1st of March. A 50watt vapor shark looking thing, and a 120w model. The mod that looks like a Variant is a 100w regular mod. The artist rendition unit on the bottom is supposedly the temp controlled 120w unit. Just got the email today.
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Patents do not really matter if you have major backing by the time its produced and purposely breaking the copyright X large company then sues Y company then they typically settle out of court and everyone goes on their merry way a great analogy is the man who invented the intermittent windshield wiper took forever then he finally won and every wiper ever made he got his money... same reason Evolv is not going after every company using wattage controlled boards who knows what the agreement is we will never knowLooks to me like the patent is the temp protection control (but im no electronics expert)
"A power detect component collects a parameter of the heating element to determine actual power output thereof. The control component dynamically adjusts the power source based on the actual power output."
I agree, I still do not like the use of the joules value which does not lend itself to common understanding. That is why I criticized its use on the first SX350 mini chip. While I have spoken to TWO people who seem to have found a use for it, and are able practically apply it to their own vape experience, on a whole I find the joules value to be useless.
So to now attempt to apply the use of joules to temperature control or protection is gimmicky to me. They should have used values, and language that is commonly understood by the consumers of the market they are selling this device to. All that being said, I am still intrigued by this new temperature sensing/limiting chip, and I do plan to get it once it is available.
Joule this buddy hahaI learn to science through my excessive use of ecig gear. Soon i shall make a rocket ship! Muahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa
Patents do not really matter if you have major backing by the time its produced and purposely breaking the copyright X large company then sues Y company then they typically settle out of court and everyone goes on their merry way a great analogy is the man who invented the intermittent windshield wiper took forever then he finally won and every wiper ever made he got his money... same reason Evolv is not going after every company using wattage controlled boards who knows what the agreement is we will never know
May have been the reason Brandon from Evolv was in China last month.Patents do not really matter if you have major backing by the time its produced and purposely breaking the copyright X large company then sues Y company then they typically settle out of court and everyone goes on their merry way a great analogy is the man who invented the intermittent windshield wiper took forever then he finally won and every wiper ever made he got his money... same reason Evolv is not going after every company using wattage controlled boards who knows what the agreement is we will never know
There was a company called Digital that created the GUI interface for computer operating systems, the Macintosh was the first successful implementation on a large scale. Digital also invented something called the "Paperless Office", which is used by almost everyone in the Office Applications suites from Microsoft to Openoffice. Digital missed the boat when they refused to see some execs from IBM late on a Friday afternoon before a long 4th of July weekend. A guy named Bill Gates from a tiny development company met with the IBM exec's later that day and inked a deal to make a disk operating system and BASIC interpreter for IBM's upcoming line of PC's. Digital vanished into the history of technology, never getting paid for their innovations. One stupid decision killed their future.
Large companies infringe on each others patents all the time, Microsoft is the leader of the pack in that respect. They sue each other and keep armies of lawyers employed. Evolv may have patented temperature control, but how it's implemented with the specific circuitry determines if it's a patent infringement or not. Evolv, much like Digital has created cutting edge technology, but has failed to keep up with the changing needs of the vaping community. I bought a DNA12 device years back, it was the first quality APV I owned. Nowadays, you can buy an iStick 20watt for $25. I paid almost $200 for the DNA12 APV. Much like IBM, Evolv has tried and failed to dictate what the market should be. IBM clones like the Compaq line of PC's killed off IBM's dominance in the market. Mods like the iStick and others killed off the high price "authentics" by offering acceptable power in a small package for a cheap price. 90% of vapers will never use more than 20watts. If the next generation of temperature control boards and mods from China are any good, Evolv may just slowly vanish like Digital did in the 90's.
Much more eleqouently said then I .. I figured no one would read... It was Xerox that invented the GUI only correction at the time the board said what we do Printers only... Jobs walked in and they gave him the GUI.There was a company called Digital that created the GUI interface for computer operating systems, the Macintosh was the first successful implementation on a large scale. Digital also invented something called the "Paperless Office", which is used by almost everyone in the Office Applications suites from Microsoft to Openoffice. Digital missed the boat when they refused to see some execs from IBM late on a Friday afternoon before a long 4th of July weekend. A guy named Bill Gates from a tiny development company met with the IBM exec's later that day and inked a deal to make a disk operating system and BASIC interpreter for IBM's upcoming line of PC's. Digital vanished into the history of technology, never getting paid for their innovations. One stupid decision killed their future.
Large companies infringe on each others patents all the time, Microsoft is the leader of the pack in that respect. They sue each other and keep armies of lawyers employed. Evolv may have patented temperature control, but how it's implemented with the specific circuitry determines if it's a patent infringement or not. Evolv, much like Digital has created cutting edge technology, but has failed to keep up with the changing needs of the vaping community. I bought a DNA12 device years back, it was the first quality APV I owned. Nowadays, you can buy an iStick 20watt for $25. I paid almost $200 for the DNA12 APV. Much like IBM, Evolv has tried and failed to dictate what the market should be. IBM clones like the Compaq line of PC's killed off IBM's dominance in the market. Mods like the iStick and others killed off the high price "authentics" by offering acceptable power in a small package for a cheap price. 90% of vapers will never use more than 20watts. If the next generation of temperature control boards and mods from China are any good, Evolv may just slowly vanish like Digital did in the 90's.
Heh, eveyone believes Xerox made the first GUI, it was Digital, Xerox bought the patent (my Aunt used to work at Digital)Much more eleqouently said then I .. I figured no one would read... It was Xerox that invented the GUI only correction at the time the board said what we do Printers only... Jobs walked in and they gave him the GUI.
Ahhh I learned something new Digital was a great company ousted by lesser ones sad they much like the Amiga, next, were way ahead in technologyHeh, eveyone believes Xerox made the first GUI, it was Digital, Xerox bought the patent (my Aunt used to work at Digital)
I used to work selling "Digital Research" products, which is the company that turned down IBM. It was also the company that developed CP/M, which is what IBM was originally interested in. The GUI, from what I understand was developed originally at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Reseach Center). One of the PARC developers left and went to work with Digital Research to develop GSX which later became the GEM GUI.Heh, eveyone believes Xerox made the first GUI, it was Digital, Xerox bought the patent (my Aunt used to work at Digital)
I used to work selling "Digital Research" products
Thanks that was a blur I remember when I was one of the unlucky ones to get a flawed pentium 90 chip I remember still being just a sophomore in college and driving to Digital to have the chip replaced I remember very well the class action lawsuit that I got haha. 2. 38 cents from wow seems like eons agoI used to work selling "Digital Research" products, which is the company that turned down IBM. It was also the company that developed CP/M, which is what IBM was originally interested in. The GUI, from what I understand was developed originally at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Reseach Center). One of the PARC developers left and went to work with Digital Research to develop GSX which later became the GEM GUI.
Digital was the computer company that made DEC (digital equipment corp) mini and mainframe computers out of Massachusetts. Digital Research was a software company out of California
Also, GEM came out a year after the first Mac was introduced
The biggest concern I have with the temp or joules lol path is if/when a non experienced vapor gets hold of one and makes the mistake of using nickle in a non temp controlled device.
Is that right? I don't know anything about using nickle but was under the impression that it was not the safest wire to use in a non tc mod.There's nothing wrong with using nickel wire with ordinary mods. In fact, I use my E-Mech with a nickel coil build at this very moment