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I totally agree with this, but not in a Rush Limbaugh sense of the term.


Again, I agree, but for different reasons. The GOP would rather stick with the devil they know. Cruz has done nothing but piss them off since his arrival in Congress. Kasich has at least built a few bridges (probably out of match sticks for a quick torch as needed).
I fail to see how building bridges to facist pigs is a "good thing"........our goverment isn't a little out of whack our goverment is the single greatest threat to the peace ,prosperity, and freedom of our citizens it is rotten to the core and needs to be eviscerated...gutted like a pig.We need a revolution, and hopefully we can do it through the ballot box,because the alternative is fucking unpleasent.
 

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I fail to see how building bridges to facist pigs is a "good thing"........our goverment isn't a little out of whack our goverment is the single greatest threat to the peace ,prosperity, and freedom of our citizens it is rotten to the core and needs to be eviscerated...gutted like a pig.We need a revolution, and hopefully we can do it through the ballot box,because the alternative is fucking unpleasent.

I don't disagree with anything you've said. However, being able to work with (or should I say, just work) the rest of congress is going to be essential. Kasich is actually pretty good at getting the establishment to go along with things they just don't want to even listen to. Kasich's stance on the military industrial complex is a great example of this.

If (perhaps when) Trump gets elected, I think the start of the real trouble begins when congress flat out refuses to work with him. Either nothing will get done at all (status quo anyone?), or something really nasty takes place to force things to happen. I'd personally rather not have to witness something nasty.
 

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I want to vote Trump, just because at some point something like him is bound to happen. The result of such an election will either begin to fix a rigged system that's terminally broken, or bring said system it to its knees and possibly destroy it. I don't even remotely want the latter, but the US needs shaken up to its core, if for no other reason than to remember what the Great Experiment was really intended to be.

The reality is, I'll likely vote for John Kasich. Kasich is one of those rare finds that has experience in DC, but is loathe to the system. Publically, he's willing to say the right things in politico refinement. Privately, he'll get down right venomous to those who deserve it. He's done a fairly decent job in Ohio as their Governor.

I think that a Trump/Kasich or Kasich/Trump ticket would be a shoe-in.


Take it from me as an Ohio resident.

Kasich is DANGEROUS to say the least.

Perfect example, he makes a big deal about having shut down a lot of "Pill Mills" in Ohio that were illegally writing prescriptions for and filling said prescriptions for Oxy and other Class I narcotics.

What he does not say is that folks like me with a legit need (and I have the history, MRI's and Xrays to prove that my back is as messed up as a football bat) all of a sudden under his new laws CANNOT get their legit pain killers from their LEGIT General Practitioners and needed to find specialized Pain Management Doctors real quick.

I got lucky as my GP was friends with one of these specialist and I got in real quick.

Many, MANY others were not so lucky as there were not enough of these kind of practices in operation to handle the new load. And they had to suffer without their much needed meds until they could find an opening with these specialist.

Anyway, a lot of the pill mills are now gone.

Granted it was illegal, but now the folks that did not legitimately qualify to get the Class I narcotics (many of them getting addicted after things like automobile accidents and the like can no longer get their Percocet to get them through the day.

But they can get ******!.

That being said, on the other hand, ****** use is way, WAY UP in Ohio as a direct result and he is doing NOTHING about that except for a couple of new needle exchange programs.

He is also a wasteful bastard.

He has a nice governor's mansion to live in.

He won't stay there even if it is fully staffed at all times.

We taxpayers have to pay the extra expense for his personal home to be staffed with cooks, maids and security.


That being said, if he wants to run as Trumps VP that is fine.

If Joe "Bite Me" can perform ribbon cutting ceremonies at halfway houses, needle trade in clinics and the new "Turd Disposal" area at a waste water treatment plant so can Kasich and hopefully he will trip and fall in.

As far as your comment about him being "Venomous", yep, you are right on track with that comment.

Hopefully if you vote for this ASSHOLE and he turns on you 5 minutes later, when he bites perhaps he will miss a major artery and you will be downsized to a minimal wage position as opposed to being outright let go!

Just like a lot of longtime State of Ohio Employees!

Hell, I would ALMOST prefer "Herr Hillory" to Kasich.

ALMOST.
 

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I don't disagree with anything you've said. However, being able to work with (or should I say, just work) the rest of congress is going to be essential. Kasich is actually pretty good at getting the establishment to go along with things they just don't want to even listen to. Kasich's stance on the military industrial complex is a great example of this.

If (perhaps when) Trump gets elected, I think the start of the real trouble begins when congress flat out refuses to work with him. Either nothing will get done at all (status quo anyone?), or something really nasty takes place to force things to happen. I'd personally rather not have to witness something nasty.
kasich is a meat puppet...he's got the party bosses fist so far up his ass all they need to do is wiggle their fingers to make his mouth move...he is not the kind of person to challenge the staus quo, and the staus quo is a globalist nightmare, where the workers live a dismal existence with no chance at upward mobility, and have to satisfy themselves by filling their bellies with empty headed leftist drivel about "for the good of all" as dissenters are dragged off to jail for thinking...where speeech is censored if it affects the great cultural "safe space" we call harmony. where as Orwell put it ...."you want to knwo the future?Imagine a boot smashing a human face forever"....look at europe ...speech is censored...people are being jailed for speech and thought..that questions the globalsit agenda of cultural genocide where all nations are being raped, their soverignty stolen...and replaced with a borg like corprate culture where we all drink coke, and have the same cultural goals......the goal of keeping a shit job,with a corporation or goverment and be able to buy a case of ramien noodles at the end of the week......you think you can trust the goverment to take care of you?...go ask an Indian.
 

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I'm thinking Trump/Cruz.
Cruz brings delegates that would sail Trump through the convention unopposed.
It would almost guarantee him the nomination...

if trump were to pick cruz,, some think the old govt would just JFK trump (kill) and get their boy cruz into the seat.

i will be voting trump,, i like his ideas about immigration,, hefty taxes on companies with american name tags who make their stuff in china etc.............and he is already rich not easily bought by the old govt... he is most likely to barter better deals with other countries or threaten embargos.
 

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At least no one has ever doubted Mickey's honesty and integrity!
 

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Take it from me as an Ohio resident.

Kasich is DANGEROUS to say the least.

Perfect example, he makes a big deal about having shut down a lot of "Pill Mills" in Ohio that were illegally writing prescriptions for and filling said prescriptions for Oxy and other Class I narcotics.

What he does not say is that folks like me with a legit need (and I have the history, MRI's and Xrays to prove that my back is as messed up as a football bat) all of a sudden under his new laws CANNOT get their legit pain killers from their LEGIT General Practitioners and needed to find specialized Pain Management Doctors real quick.

I got lucky as my GP was friends with one of these specialist and I got in real quick.

Many, MANY others were not so lucky as there were not enough of these kind of practices in operation to handle the new load. And they had to suffer without their much needed meds until they could find an opening with these specialist.

Anyway, a lot of the pill mills are now gone.

Granted it was illegal, but now the folks that did not legitimately qualify to get the Class I narcotics (many of them getting addicted after things like automobile accidents and the like can no longer get their Percocet to get them through the day.

But they can get ******!.

That being said, on the other hand, ****** use is way, WAY UP in Ohio as a direct result and he is doing NOTHING about that except for a couple of new needle exchange programs.

He is also a wasteful bastard.

He has a nice governor's mansion to live in.

He won't stay there even if it is fully staffed at all times.

We taxpayers have to pay the extra expense for his personal home to be staffed with cooks, maids and security.


That being said, if he wants to run as Trumps VP that is fine.

If Joe "Bite Me" can perform ribbon cutting ceremonies at halfway houses, needle trade in clinics and the new "Turd Disposal" area at a waste water treatment plant so can Kasich and hopefully he will trip and fall in.

As far as your comment about him being "Venomous", yep, you are right on track with that comment.

Hopefully if you vote for this ASSHOLE and he turns on you 5 minutes later, when he bites perhaps he will miss a major artery and you will be downsized to a minimal wage position as opposed to being outright let go!

Just like a lot of longtime State of Ohio Employees!

Hell, I would ALMOST prefer "Herr Hillory" to Kasich.

ALMOST.

Well, you've certainly brought forth some things that certainly aren't being discussed in the main stream.

It actually didn't take long to dig up several examples of exactly what you're talking about!

I absolutely wasn't aware of these things, so thank you for making me so. I'm man enough to admit when I make mistakes, and apparently I was getting close to making a big one in November.

Looking more and more like the only option may just be The Donald...
 

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This entire election is about whether we will have New World Order or whether we will have free indpendent nations.
 

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Listened to Col. Commie Sanders at the rally today.
Pro junky bullshit.. when he went after the fossil fuel oil production AFTER jetting back and forth from cali....via Jet.
We are in Oregon... he Just had a rally In Washington.... less distance from the high school he was running his suck hole at to where he came today to run his suck hole... but he had too round about it and fly to cali and back...


FUck you Sanders I see your true metal and find you lacking.
 

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LOL...pro junky bullshit....
Dude he went on about making MJ legal and ending the war on drugs.
Kind of phased out listening to him after the relaxation of criminal laws to making it a medical issue instead.
 

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I've been talking this up for YEARS -- all these companies that have outsourced jobs need to be taxed RUINOUSLY, so they bring those damn jobs BACK to America where they belong.

Andria
imagine Apple having to charge +30% for their chinese made phones. ie,,$600 +30%=$800 and the phone is 'obsolete' in about 3-6 months.
 

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imagine Apple having to charge +30% for their chinese made phones. ie,,$600 +30%=$800 and the phone is 'obsolete' in about 3-6 months.

There was a time, 50 or so years ago, when greed wasn't preached. Sellers were less likely to price gouge, and buyers were more interested in value, rather than price.

Would I be interested in paying 30% more for goods and services? If it meant vast numbers of good jobs for my fellow Americans, along with a reduction in the ridiculous amount of taxes we all pay...YOU BETCHA!
 

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Dude he went on about making MJ legal and ending the war on drugs.
Kind of phased out listening to him after the relaxation of criminal laws to making it a medical issue instead.
This country has never had a war on drugs at least not in my lifetime.drugs have been easier to get than jobs....since the CIA muled shit in during the vietnam war from the golden triangle to the douchebag in Panama to the colombian cartels to mexican cartels to the afghani poppy fields our goverment has been up to their balls in the drug trade....the last thing our goverment wants is a drug free america.
decriminalization of all drugs sounds good and it's a meme we've been hearing for two generations,but I'm not convinced I need to read up a little more on the xxxxx War ..
 

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There was a time, 50 or so years ago, when greed wasn't preached. Sellers were less likely to price gouge, and buyers were more interested in value, rather than price.

Would I be interested in paying 30% more for goods and services? If it meant vast numbers of good jobs for my fellow Americans, along with a reduction in the ridiculous amount of taxes we all pay...YOU BETCHA!
imagine Apple having to charge +30% for their chinese made phones. ie,,$600 +30%=$800 and the phone is 'obsolete' in about 3-6 months.
yeah having overworked chinese peasant throwing themselves off buildings is probablly better all around.
 

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imagine Apple having to charge +30% for their chinese made phones. ie,,$600 +30%=$800 and the phone is 'obsolete' in about 3-6 months.

I wouldn't have an Apple ANYTHING if they paid me to take it!

Andria
 

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This is the first flag of India...the symbol in the middle is a traditional spinning wheel that Indians wove cloth on.It is a symbol of India being a self reliant nations free of economic dependence on England....Ghandi urged Indians to weave their own cloth and not buy cloth woven in British mills which was being imported into India.


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At least no one has ever doubted Mickey's honesty and integrity!
I may be out of context here as I began reading this thread from last to first
but I disagree with you about Mickey Mouse's honesty, integrity, and ethics
and I am someone so you're wrong...
Moreover, Mickey and his syndicate engage in wanton abuse of the psyche of children
and theft or the children's parents money.
That rodent's entire campaign is based on subliminal programming
and reinforced with false promise of free sugary treats. The mouse is a dishonest fascist
masquerading as a social reformist hero of the people.
Furthermore he has yet to produce a genuine birth certificate!
 

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Cruz I can see, and I rather see that happen but I think it is to late in the game. For Marco he is to young with needing more experience, and knowledge under his belt to be considered. Just my opinion.
Gotta jump in here with my 2 centavos about Marco Rubio as he happens to be my Senator.
The guy is not only too young he's a fool. I'd be more descriptive but you want us to be nice..

When he was a City Commissioner in West Miami he was investigated for activities
which I can't elaborate about here..but aren't becoming to him if aired.
But I can tell you that when I emailed Marco Rubio to petition
his vote or involvement against the implementation of the FDA "Deeming" during one of the CASAA campaigns
the response I received from his office was indicative that either they didn't actually read it
or possibly didn't understand my concerns.

I'll also mention that because I am a registered Republican (leaning toward Libertarian Independent)
I received a telephone call from Rubio's campaign asking if had voted for him in the FL primary yet
and demanding that I do when I told the woman I had not.
When I told her that I supported Donald Trump and politely asked her to not call me any more
she became quite rude and accused me of being a traitor to my ethnicity.

I'll also point out that both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio share something with
our Kenyan president which is contrary to my understanding of the constitution
which is that in order to be president of the United States
one has to be a natural born citizen born of a natural born American mother
AND a natural born American father..That little tidbit was throw in to make sure that a couple of generations of
Americanization would pass lest an enemy(British) agent infiltrate the presidency.

I'm pretty sure I got the above right as it's personal but if there are any constitutionalist scholars reading
please feel free to correct me..
 
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HazyShades

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I support Trump for prez and the mild mannered neurosurgeon Ben Carson for balance
or the hot Sarah Palin for her looks for vice-prez, but in my heart I feel it doesn't really matter
who I vote for.
 

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I may be out of context here as I began reading this thread from last to first
but I disagree with you about Mickey Mouse's honesty, integrity, and ethics
and I am someone so you're wrong...
Moreover, Mickey and his syndicate engage in wanton abuse of the psyche of children
and theft or the children's parents money.
That rodent's entire campaign is based on subliminal programming
and reinforced with false promise of free sugary treats. The mouse is a dishonest fascist
masquerading as a social reformist hero of the people.
Furthermore he has yet to produce a genuine birth certificate!
chingada raton!
 

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HazyShades

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These stories are pertinent to the point Mr Trump makes in that speech:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304526204579101602356751772

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3797d2-f17b-11e5-a61f-e9c95c06edca_story.html

of course a cynic like me would question the veracity of the above articles
if not for it (the latter) having been verified to me by private sources.

The sooner the citizens of the US realize that we live in a state of war
which has at least culturally invaded US and is gearing up for a material assault
the better our assurance of survival.
It isn't that those of us of like mind are "haters" or thugs as we are often accused of
it's that we don't keep our heads buried in the sand and do desire to live in peace.
We are not the aggressors. Refusing to see what's up will not lead to peace on Earth.

okay...off the soap box ;-)
 

HazyShades

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I think the following is pertinent to this thread and supportive
of what seems to be the majority opinion in this thread as well as
illustrative of why we opine as such to those who question our judgment.
I own it and wish I could share it with y'all.
Check it out:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3868452/

you can get it on youtube for $3.99 (this is not an ad, I'm not affiliated)
or find it elsewhere where the Argh! gang hangs...
 

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I think the following is pertinent to this thread and supportive
of what seems to be the majority opinion in this thread as well as
illustrative of why we opine as such to those who question our judgment.
I own it and wish I could share it with y'all.
Check it out:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3868452/

you can get it on youtube for $3.99 (this is not an ad, I'm not affiliated)
or find it elsewhere where the Argh! gang hangs...
you can't fix stupid.....and the support for Bernie just further illustates the point.
 

HazyShades

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you can't fix stupid.....and the support for Bernie just further illustates the point.
True. But you can show and tell and maybe some will somehow catch on.
There's a segment in that video where Joel Gilbert interviews a black chick who
used to think Mr Soetoro was the Messiah. A clip of her swooning and saying as much
at a campaign, then as she feels now..She got it.
I can post a youtube vid of a very eloquent former black panther explaining how Mr Soetoro is a traitor to the blacks and another of Chicago black neighborhood members saying as much. They got hip.

Guess I'll always try to fix broken shit...but sometimes it works.
But I know what you're saying man. Look at Venezuela for example.
Given the example of what happened in Cuba with Fidel and "La Revolucion"
they still went ahead and put Hugo in power and screwed up their country totally.

I have to admit that Bernie has a couple of good points to make..and believe me bro, I ain't no commie.
I just wanna be left alone..don't need nobody to nanny my ass or tell me what's legal and what isn't.
 

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Bernie belives socialism works ...those other countries just didnt do it right or have the right people in charge .. I think people are angry and fed up with the whole system ...the game is rigged and we are all the loosers . Its climate change man thats our biggest threat not people cutting peoples heads off and blowing people up ! Not people working harder and harder for less and less not leaving our children a country in insurmountable debt not people apologizing for saying ALL lives matter ! As George Carlin so rightfully said "its called the American dream because you gotta be asleep to belive it "
Stock your ammo they are comming for us all .

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HazyShades

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Bernie belives socialism works ...those other countries just didnt do it right or have the right people in charge .. I think people are angry and fed up with the whole system ...the game is rigged and we are all the loosers . Its climate change man thats our biggest threat not people cutting peoples heads off and blowing people up ! Not people working harder and harder for less and less not leaving our children a country in insurmountable debt not people apologizing for saying ALL lives matter ! As George Carlin so rightfully said "its called the American dream because you gotta be asleep to belive it "
Stock your ammo they are comming for us all .

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I agree wholeheartedly Arthur. There's a greed problem with our system that makes
some turn to socialism. But if anybody reads their history books they can see that it just never works when institutionalized completely.
There is a need for some type of socialized medicine. A government's constitutional obligation is to protect and defend it's citizens, not to tax and control their actions.
Medical care is part of what I consider protection. But our gub'min doesn't even care about the veterans they send out to get maimed and killed doing their nefarious imperialist activities. How about we take care of our own before we try to save or enslave the world?

Damn, I'm ranting..and being followed by a mob of mods...
Anyhow Art, I'm planting a veggie garden and stocking up on ammo.
For those with eyes and ears: 70x7=490 and I'm way past that and have a STIFF NECK
 

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I agree wholeheartedly Arthur. There's a greed problem with our system that makes
some turn to socialism. But if anybody reads their history books they can see that it just never works when institutionalized completely.
There is a need for some type of socialized medicine. A government's constitutional obligation is to protect and defend it's citizens, not to tax and control their actions.
Medical care is part of what I consider protection. But our gub'min doesn't even care about the veterans they send out to get maimed and killed doing their nefarious imperialist activities. How about we take care of our own before we try to save or enslave the world?

Damn, I'm ranting..and being followed by a mob of mods...
Anyhow Art, I'm planting a veggie garden and stocking up on ammo.
For those with eyes and ears: 70x7=490 and I'm way past that and have a STIFF NECK

I dunno if I would consider actual medical care to be part of their obligation to us... but protecting us from greedy medical purveyors and BP, from gouging the hell out of us to make themselves rich, yes, they definitely should protect us from that. My husband has suggested that all medical personnel be drafted into the civil service, the GS, to serve in that for some specified time, before being allowed to go into private practice. Medical Insurance providers are evil and unethical, attempting to practice medicine without license but with a sharp eye to profits. They should be outlawed and imprisoned for profitting off the misery of Americans.

Andria
 

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I dunno if I would consider actual medical care to be part of their obligation to us... but protecting us from greedy medical purveyors and BP, from gouging the hell out of us to make themselves rich, yes, they definitely should protect us from that. My husband has suggested that all medical personnel be drafted into the civil service, the GS, to serve in that for some specified time, before being allowed to go into private practice. Medical Insurance providers are evil and unethical, attempting to practice medicine without license but with a sharp eye to profits. They should be outlawed and imprisoned for profitting off the misery of Americans.

Andria
That's an excellent suggestion of yer hubby's.
My ex wife worked at Papanicolau Cancer Research. I could tell you stories that would for sure piss you off, Andria.
There's money to be made in keeping people sick..
 

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I dunno if I would consider actual medical care to be part of their obligation to us... but protecting us from greedy medical purveyors and BP, from gouging the hell out of us to make themselves rich, yes, they definitely should protect us from that. My husband has suggested that all medical personnel be drafted into the civil service, the GS, to serve in that for some specified time, before being allowed to go into private practice. Medical Insurance providers are evil and unethical, attempting to practice medicine without license but with a sharp eye to profits. They should be outlawed and imprisoned for profitting off the misery of Americans.

Andria

Insurance, by its very nature, is nothing more than a bet. A bet that you will ultimately pay more in premiums than the insurer pays out in claims. When it comes to the health care of people, I think that very concept is obscene at best.

Doctors, and researchers, and other care providers, all deserve a handsome paycheck. They studied and sacrificed years, often decades, to be able to provide care to others. Many (dare I say most) of the actual people that function as providers really are, or at least believe, that they do their best in service of others. To heal others. The actual providers, by and large, are not the problem.
Hell, even pharma deserves a nice profit to provide curative medicinal therapies. The problems stem from the medical industry becoming like every other industry, where profits matter more than care and service. When BP focuses more on treating symptoms rather than eradicating disease because it makes better business sense to do so, it can only be called reprehensible.

Just like any other Wall Street fed & bled system, the folks that pull the strings within the modern health care establishment are morally corrupt. I see them as nothing more than modern day real life vampires, that feed on the currency of the people, rather than their blood.

To fix the system, the people making the business decisions need to be allieviated of a profit burden. As long as Wall Street ultimately runs the business of medicine, that is never going to happen.
 

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I dunno if I would consider actual medical care to be part of their obligation to us
Allow me to correct me. Basic Medical care, and yup. Methinks it part of protecting tax paying citizens.
Any business looks after it's production force's medical welfare if it's run by wise entrepreneurs.
Even farmers take the pigs to the vet..
Now I mean basic. If you want a nose job or silicone implants work for it and pay.
But if all you want is to stay alive and be able to breathe, free albuterol a lung specialist
is the ticket and costs less than one little itty bitty drone.
 

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Insurance, by its very nature, is nothing more than a bet. A bet that you will ultimately pay more in premiums than the insurer pays out in claims. When it comes to the health care of people, I think that very concept is obscene at best.

Doctors, and researchers, and other care providers, all deserve a handsome paycheck. They studied and sacrificed years, often decades, to be able to provide care to others. Many (dare I say most) of the actual people that function as providers really are, or at least believe, that they do their best in service of others. To heal others. The actual providers, by and large, are not the problem.
Hell, even pharma deserves a nice profit to provide curative medicinal therapies. The problems stem from the medical industry becoming like every other industry, where profits matter more than care and service. When BP focuses more on treating symptoms rather than eradicating disease because it makes better business sense to do so, it can only be called reprehensible.

Just like any other Wall Street fed & bled system, the folks that pull the strings within the modern health care establishment are morally corrupt. I see them as nothing more than modern day real life vampires, that feed on the currency of the people, rather than their blood.

To fix the system, the people making the business decisions need to be allieviated of a profit burden. As long as Wall Street ultimately runs the business of medicine, that is never going to happen.

Rob, Hi there. I agree that doctors and researchers deserve to be rewarded for their study
and my family was once in the business of making and selling pharmaceuticals and understand nobody works for free.
However as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, my ex wife worked at Pap and would come home angry
because whenever a study was getting close to a conclusion they'd scrap it.
Why? Cancer research is a 12 billion dollar industry. Who wants a cure if it means no job?

Insurance is a racket. The entire industry be it medical/health, property, auto, what have you is
like the protection rackets of Capone and such and they're all in cahoots with gub'min.
Then we have hospital and hmo administrators...corrupt blood suckers with no compassion
in cahoots with the corrupt gub'min inspectors who are supposed to keep 'em in line.

Man call me a cynical pessimist but from my perspective it's all frakked up
and we're all in deep shit no matter what and it's all due to greed and lack of compassion
 

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Insurance is a racket. The entire industry be it medical/health, property, auto, what have you is like the protection rackets of Capone and such and they're all in cahoots with gub'min.Then we have hospital and hmo administrators...corrupt blood suckers with no compassionin cahoots with the corrupt gub'min inspectors who are supposed to keep 'em in line.
"Insurance" that you're forced to buy, whether you want it or not, is clearly a racket. ;)
 

HazyShades

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"Insurance" that you're forced to buy, whether you want it or not, is clearly a racket. ;)
Indeed. Auto insurance...(PIP), Health insurance (ObamaCare), dog bite insurance if you own a pit bull in miami dade county...
dental insurance if you have teeth and wanna keep 'em..all kinds of insurance if you run a business,
I'd go on listing but you're a victim too. You know. Racketeers all.
 

pulsevape

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Rob, Hi there. I agree that doctors and researchers deserve to be rewarded for their study
and my family was once in the business of making and selling pharmaceuticals and understand nobody works for free.
However as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, my ex wife worked at Pap and would come home angry
because whenever a study was getting close to a conclusion they'd scrap it.
Why? Cancer research is a 12 billion dollar industry. Who wants a cure if it means no job?

Insurance is a racket. The entire industry be it medical/health, property, auto, what have you is
like the protection rackets of Capone and such and they're all in cahoots with gub'min.
Then we have hospital and hmo administrators...corrupt blood suckers with no compassion
in cahoots with the corrupt gub'min inspectors who are supposed to keep 'em in line.

Man call me a cynical pessimist but from my perspective it's all frakked up
and we're all in deep shit no matter what and it's all due to greed and lack of compassion
The solution to high medical bills isn't goverment....the cause of high medical bills is goverment....the goverment has controled and regulated and given taxpayer money ,and written laws that insure the people who donated the most to their camapagins get to use the legal system to keep competitors out of the market....if the market was allowed to operate freely the price of medical care would go way down and so would it's quality....when a company comes up with say a cheap cure for cancer...all big Pharma has to do is pick up a phone and tell the FDA to force the new drug to stay in "testing" for a couple of centuries.The goverment solves nothing..at this point the goverment is in the bussiness to create strife and poverty so they can justify their existence and their right to enslave us ffor genertions with tax debt.
The federal goverment of the US is not in the lest bit interested in the health wealth freedom or peace of our nation...they are tyrants whose goal is to make enslavment and debt normal just as the aristocracy of europe made serfdom normal for centuries...only fools and domesticated animals think the goverment is benevolnet...or that it ever could be.

There is no way a corporation can rise to the point of domination without the aid of a corrupt and too powerful goverment...goverments create corporate monopolies...
 
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Rossum

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.the cause of high medical bills is goverment....the goverment has controled and regulated and given taxpayer money ,and written laws that insure the people who donated the most to their camapagins get to use the legal system to keep competitors out of the market
Yup. Why is it that an MRI that costs thousands in the US costs only hundreds in most other countries, where they will happily accept cash and the facility still makes a profit? I could dig up numerous examples of like this.
 

pulsevape

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Obama's bailouts is a perfect example..Obama took our money put us into dent and then proccede to give money to the corporations, AND THE BANKS that helped him and the DNC out the most, and he punished and persecuted the bussiness that were donating to his political opponents...and that is how the major corporations grow to dominate a market.
 

freemind

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I've kinds skimmed a few pages, and I have to laugh to myself.

I see some supporting the repubs this or that one. They are all establishment HACKS, except for two. Trump, who has monetarily SUPPORTED some of the most left leaning liberals, and Cruz, who is just like the established hacks that say whatever you want to hear. It's just Cruz hasn't had enough time to lay a track record as long as your arm, like the others.

If you'd vote Trump, why not Hilary? He supported her and encouraged her Liberal leanings. So you think suddenly he is "conservative" and actually plans to "make America great again"? Lol. More reality TV blindness.

This republican contest, is nothing short of a complete shit show. This is NOT a Presidential race, but some deranged TV show.
 
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