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Someone mentioned one stop DIY shop is having a bog sale too might wanna look over there
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MFS has it on sale for 1000ml all the time
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Oh ok. I wondered that I thought I had seen it before.
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I put mine in glass bottles and throw it in the freezer,and take it out as needed,,,that extends the shelf life of it I think
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i was a diesel mechanic on boats before during and now again, lol, got out in 2010. i was on the bonhomme richard, lhd6 out of san diego
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Never did get my juice made,,,,,i had a water main break in the park here,had to dig a hole and fix that
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damn, i gotta lot to catch up on, gotta go buy some chicken for the dogs, i guess they feel like eating today
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dont feel bad, i had to go out and tow in a customerNever did get my juice made,,,,,i had a water main break in the park here,had to dig a hole and fix that
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im just glad I make bulk for myself,,,,im just down to my last 45ml bottle of walnut,,,,,,and I aint about to run out of my walnut
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I made a couple. One is too strong. Can I just add some more PG or VG to make it better? Total newbie question I KNOW.Never did get my juice made,,,,,i had a water main break in the park here,had to dig a hole and fix that
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my camera system has 1tb memory built in,i got 8 cameras and can record all of them for 2 weeks nonstopTaver how's the mod comin?
On a side not, I ordered a waterproof 1tb external hard drive that will be at my doorstep tomorrow!
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yes if its just the flavor that's to strong,,,,it will cut down your nic content though
Nice! I have a nice collection of a lot of songs on my 1tb now as well as like 5 computers fully backed up lol
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you are keeping notes so you know what you did there,,,,right
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Yeah the flavor is really strong. Too strong.
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Yes. I have a notebook that I keep notes on each batch I make. I bought glass bottles for the PG/VG. I left the nicotine in the plastic bottle.
I probably take to long to make a tiny batch but when I do a recipe I been doing like %2 under what's called for, sample vape and adjusting, I have completely ripped some apart and replaced flavors I though would taste better. Is that bad me lol I add nic last. Still trying to find my system but I am a pain to myself
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it will be fine in plastic,,,,,i was just saying what I do,i like mine refridgerated,but that's just me
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there really is no specific order to put things in,,,,i do ,,,,Nic,PG,VG,and then my flavors,,,,but you just do what makes you comfortableI probably take to long to make a tiny batch but when I do a recipe I been doing like %2 under what's called for, sample vape and adjusting, I have completely ripped some apart and replaced flavors I though would taste better. Is that bad me lol I add nic last. Still trying to find my system but I am a pain to myself
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If you want to dilute the nic content too, just use the same ratio you want your juice to be. If you want 50/50 juice, mix half vg and half pg and dilute it.
If you want to keep the same nic content, just mix a flavorless batch including your preferred nic amount, and dilute on increments of 1 ml, until it gets better.
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good point,,,,I was trying to think how to tell her that,good job pauly
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but you will still need to use your juice calculator and just ad nic,vg,and pg amts together for total amt,and then add flavorings,,,,,I have a hard time wording things,,,,,i hope she understands what I said
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Thats a good idea. I never thought about that.
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I make like 200ml of premixed base at a time. I make mine at 6%nic at whatever pgvg ratio my pg nic base + vg ends up being
The best part is, when I go to my calculator, which is this one http://www.e-liquid-recipes.com/create
I dont have to fuck with typing in my nic percentage, my intended ratio, or anything else. I just leave the calculator at zero nic and 100%pg, and input my flavorings percentages. It makes my life much easier.
The best part is, when I go to my calculator, which is this one http://www.e-liquid-recipes.com/create
I dont have to fuck with typing in my nic percentage, my intended ratio, or anything else. I just leave the calculator at zero nic and 100%pg, and input my flavorings percentages. It makes my life much easier.
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It takes alot of the headache out of mixing, eliminating two big measuring steps.
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@Heather ,@Cruel-Phate ,I want you 2 to know when you ask questions and I answer,these are just my opinions from what works good for me,nothing is set in stone,,i have no doubt you guys will make good mixoligist very soon ,just take your time and it will come to you
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I couldnt agree more.
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i think im calling it an early night all, im exhausted
I appreciate help from all you guys, lady's....I think having a good taste for the flavors is the hardest part...I need to sniff coffee beans or something after I test smell them heh. Some recipes are good the way they are but I get to thinking and the mad scientist comes out
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My biggest problem is flavor association. Some people can taste flavors standalone and know what to put with what, and make awesome flavors that taste like food. I have a big problem with this. Also, I cannot taste vanilla in anything. No matter what vanilla I use, it never tastes like it to me.
In a nut shell that's what I think my problem is to...I can taste them once there together but based off of smell I get confused what food types would go good...that's why I do nic last so I can taste it lol
I should not be having that problem, I love cooking
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Ive heard people compare diy mixing to cooking, but its not that way for me. Its more like experimental flavor chemistry. Figuring out strengths, percentages, flavor profiles and combinations is alot harder than cooking. Im great at putting foods and spices together, concentrated flavorings are a different animal.
Yes there it is. I think it is combinations that you don't think and have to learn-- right vendors of certain flavors or like putting a bit of raspberry with strawberry to bring out the strawberry taste. Using ap with tobacco flavors etc. it is a learning curve...
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I just ordered a pile of flavorings, "it's going to blank my mind trying to figure out something with so much to choose from
Maybe I will do better if I am hungry and don't eat that night
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There are alot of flavors that are completely intuitive and work just as you think they will. Others, you use a drop or two too much and your recipe is wrecked, leaving alot of questions.
It takes alot of time and experimentation to figure this out. But it always feels good to make something right.
The only problem with that is each recipe calls for different amounts of flavoring which means you won't ever be at truly 6mg NIC. That's fine if you're mixing for yourself and you aren't trying to raise or lower NIC level. There's a lot more involved to premixing base if you want to be more accurate. I don't find it difficult to mix at the time of making the juice. Also, I read somewhere that you should put in NIC, then flavors, then PG, then VG for better mixing of things. I follow that method myself, and my NIC is in PG base. If you think about it, it makes it easier for the PG, NIC, and flavoring to mix (since most flavors are PG base) together, then adding the VG last, and either stir with a stirrer or shake the hell out of it to mix the PG and VG. To each his own I guess. Just remember that premixing the base, you should premix it to a NIC level slightly higher than your target, because adding flavors is going to lower the NIC level...sometimes considerably. If it's a recipe that calls for 18-25% flavor, your NIC just got cut by that same amount. If it's a recipe with FA flavors, and only calls for 6-8% flavor, not so bad. My point is...if you're using a premixed base mixed to a certain target NIC level, then your final bottle of juice NIC level will vary from recipe to recipe. Myself I like to keep my NIC level the same regardless of the recipe. In my opinion that's a bad suggestion to someone just starting DIY, but that's just my opinion.
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I understand what you are saying here...I was referring to Pauly telling her to premix her PG, VG, and NIC to a certain level. That would be fine if you're vaping flavorless. Soon as you add flavors to that mix though, the NIC level is going to drop, as is the PG/VG ratio going to change. So since each recipe calls for different amounts of flavors, if you're shooting for a target NIC, PG, or VG level, you're going to have to add more NIC and more VG or PG each time. That them defeats the purpose of premixing the base. If you're doing it fly by night and don't really care about levels and ratios, then go for it. To me it's just as simple to pull up a recipe, measure out NIC, flavors, PG, and VG... it really is pretty simple. I do my mixing by weight these days, so it's much easier than the old syringe/pipette method, but even when I used those, I still mixed each bottle one ingredient at a time. It takes like 5 minutes to mix a bottle, and 10 minutes to clean syringes and shit. Is that more clear? Poor @Heather, I'm sure we're confusing the shit out of her now. I'm just trying to help her get good at mixing is all though. Heather if you have any questions about what I said, let me know.
I'm about to jump off here for the night everyone. I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow.
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night man,see you tomorrowI understand what you are saying here...I was referring to Pauly telling her to premix her PG, VG, and NIC to a certain level. That would be fine if you're vaping flavorless. Soon as you add flavors to that mix though, the NIC level is going to drop, as is the PG/VG ratio going to change. So since each recipe calls for different amounts of flavors, if you're shooting for a target NIC, PG, or VG level, you're going to have to add more NIC and more VG or PG each time. That them defeats the purpose of premixing the base. If you're doing it fly by night and don't really care about levels and ratios, then go for it. To me it's just as simple to pull up a recipe, measure out NIC, flavors, PG, and VG... it really is pretty simple. I do my mixing by weight these days, so it's much easier than the old syringe/pipette method, but even when I used those, I still mixed each bottle one ingredient at a time. It takes like 5 minutes to mix a bottle, and 10 minutes to clean syringes and shit. Is that more clear? Poor @Heather, I'm sure we're confusing the shit out of her now. I'm just trying to help her get good at mixing is all though. Heather if you have any questions about what I said, let me know.
I'm about to jump off here for the night everyone. I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow.
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Yeah man. Did that make more sense to what I was saying though?
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I am just going to buy say cookies, whip it in the blender, stir it into my pg-vg-nic and I will have a perfect cookie vape lol defiantly lot of controversy on best way to mix heh just saying
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yea that made sense,,,,i should have said "to keep the percentages the same" in my post ,,,it would been more clear to
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I said im not real good wording things
Haha. Let me know how that comes out for you.I am just going to buy say cookies, whip it in the blender, stir it into my pg-vg-nic and I will have a perfect cookie vape lol defiantly lot of controversy on best way to mix heh just saying
Its not really controversy, it's more a question of how accurate you want to be. It's like making a cake following a recipe...when it calls for 2 cups sugar, 1 cup flour, and a tablespoon of vanilla are you going to measure it or eyeball it? Say you premix those, but the next cake calls for 3 cups sugar, 2 cups flour, and 3 tablespoons of vanilla...your premix will work, but you need to add more sugar, flour, and vanilla. Then what was the point of premixing? Premixing a base is fine, but you have to realize what you are doing, and how it's going to affect each recipe you make. Thus why I said I wouldn't recommend that to a newbie starting off. Personally I would never do it. Diluting your NIC is one thing, premixing your PG, VG, and NIC is a whole other. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Haha. Let me know how that comes out for you.
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They need to make some sort of digital tool/sensor that you add few drops of your final product that tells you the exact readings of everything once it's mixed...that would be useful. Maybe they do, who knows