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gsmit1

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I thought 30q didn't have enough amps for mechs?
I was talking generally. Not about 30Qs in particular.

30Qs will work fine in mechs if you build within their cdr. Single battery, dual parallell and series all have their considerations.

That's the point with mechs. You can vape at 40 watts with medium heat all day with a mech if you set it up to do that. But... YOU have to manually set it up.

With mechs you definitely want more muscle in your batterie/s than you think you'll need.
 

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so, ohms law with 40 watts on one side of the equation?
30 amps on the other?
times resistance?
 

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Again. Battery choice 4 mechs are made based on desired build.
Well, "choice" - always CHOOSE to get a lot more amps of power than you need, with a mech. You need that "cushion" while you work up your coils anyway - although I only build on regulated and THEN move it over to the mechs.
 

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so, ohms law with 40 watts on one side of the equation?
30 amps on the other?
times resistance?
In the case of the 30Q we'll go with 15 amps. Go to the ohms law calculator and enter 15 amps and 40 watts. It will tell you the resistance the build needs to be to get that vape. It will also tell you the voltage you'll be using for it too.

What it won't tell you, though some apps will, is the mass and surface area. The mass of the coil will greatly effect how quickly it ramps up.
 

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This is why it's important to know how the different wire metals and how they're spun will behave. A meatier coil with less wraps may ramp up slower than a lighter one with more, though they may be close in resistance.
 
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making coils is for people with hairy knuckles who like machinery.
doing math can be ladylike.
 

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Plenty of non harry knuckle people make there own coils.
 

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volts= 40 watts /20 amp battery= 2 volts
2 volts=20 amps x ohms
ohms =.1
that is too low.
 

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(Imho) if your running 40w. Not a big build on an rda. Just run a regulated mod. Flexibility and built in safety. (Imho)
 

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wb, i plan to.
but, i'm obsessed with being able to run a mech if i want.

i'm not sure i need math.
i know instinctively if i have a 30 amp battery n a 1.0 coil, i'm safe.
 

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Then jump in with 1. Start with a safe build/battery setup. And go from there. See if you even enjoy them.
 

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You control it with build n battery. Can be hot or cool.
 

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those are hot vapes?
A 1 ohm build will give you 13 watts at about 4 amps with a single freash battery or parallel setup with two. A series setup would be like 55 watts.
 
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i'm obsessed with being able to run a mech if i want.
That's because you're afraid the feds are gonna make it nigh impossible to get vape stuff and you want a mod or mods that will last the rest of your life.

I do understand that.
 
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To make the math Easyer. Try a ohms law calculator app. They r easy. Simply plug in info a d it tells you if your under amps or not.Screenshot_20190419-132735_Google Play Store.jpg
 

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well, yeah. i'm happy with what i have.
i'm not interested in mechs for right now.
but, i do like to prep for emergencies.
thanks, wb. i'm trying to do the math til i get ohms law down pat.
gsm, are you talking about MECH?
i was assuming you get 30 amps rom a 30 amp battery.
not so?
 

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So do like most of us. Be a vape prepper. Have back up mods. And a mech or two sitting(even if you don't use them). Just in case. Have enough supplies to be good for a long while. When i buy juice supplies(pg, vg, nic, wire and cotton) i get enough to last a year. In doing so i could give a damn what government thinks or does. Cus im good.
 

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ok, what inexpensive mech has training wheels?
i wanna get one, use it enow to learn it n put it away.
i can avoid stupid battery mistakes.
 

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ok, what inexpensive mech has training wheels?
i wanna get one, use it enow to learn it n put it away.
i can avoid stupid battery mistakes.
What is you definition of inexpensive?
 

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Unfortunately no mech has training whrels as they r unregulated. But with the basic knowledge i have seen posted here you will b fine.
 

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dunno.
i have hundreds invested in regulated mods.

actually, i'm more concerned with the tank.
screwing in little pieces of wire n then forcing cotton thru them n cutting just so
sounds as much fun as cleaning the bathroom.
 

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dunno.
i have hundreds invested in regulated mods.

actually, i'm more concerned with the tank.
screwing in little pieces of wire n then forcing cotton thru them n cutting just so
sounds as much fun as cleaning the bathroom.
Building and wicking is easy.
 

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You might want to get an unregulated, but protected device to practice on. Like the Coilart Dpro 133.

Has all the protections, but it's direct output so you how it vapes is entirely dependent on the build and batteries.

So it's kind of like a mech with training wheels.
 

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I have a smok v9max. It too is a protected unregulated. It works well. But has a internal 4000mah bat. Good size bat is a plus. Internal bat is a negative in my book as it cant easily be replaced.
 

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But with that device so long as i stay over .15 ohms ive had no problems.
 

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This one is dual 18650 in parallel. It is unregulated, but protected. You build for it just like you would say a DD DS except if you get it wrong on the resistance, or have a short or your batteries get too low, it will stop firing. It has 4 lights that indicate roughly how much voltage is left in the batteries and that's the only external control or visual of any kind.

I should have thought of it before. It is EXACTLY what she needs right now.
 

susieqz

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thanks for finding that.
i gotta think.
seems like i gotta do all the work of a mech, without getting whatever benefits mechs have.

there;s something i hadn't thot of.
what benefits does a mech actually have.
all i know is it lasts a long time.
 

gsmit1

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thanks for finding that.
i gotta think.
seems like i gotta do all the work of a mech, without getting whatever benefits mechs have.

there;s something i hadn't thougt of.
what benefits does a mech actually have.
all i know is it lasts a long time.
No, it will vape like a mech. Or as close as you'll get with protections. There's more voltage drop with something like the Dpro 133 than with a good full mech for instance.

You have to try an unregulated vape to really appreciate it.

The point is, you can learn to build, or at least choose coils for a mech without any more risk than with a regulated device.

It's 25 bucks WITH an RDA that will work well at your wattage. If you don't like it, somebody will buy it from you. They are getting harder to find.

You have nothing to lose.

EDIT: Oh yeah. It also comes WITH coils :D I will also make you a pair of coils that get you in the 40 watt range with a parallel setup and send them to you for free.
 
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No, it will vape like a mech. Or as close as you'll get with regulation. There's more voltage drop with something like the Dpro 133 than with a good full mech for instance.

You have to try an unregulated vape to really appreciate it.

The point is, you can learn to build, or at least choose coils for a mech without any more risk than with a regulated device.

It's 25 bucks WITH an RDA that will work well at your wattage. If you don't like it, somebody will buy it from you. They are getting harder to find.

You have nothing to lose.
Hell 25 for a back up is always good. Especially with a. Rda
 

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thank you. that looks like a great bargain.
thing is, it's a dripper.
i'd rather buy cigarettes than be forced to drip.
 

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thank you. that looks like a great bargain.
thing is, it's a dripper.
i'd rather buy cigarettes than be forced to drip.
Get an rta to put on it. Put the rda on the shelf or sell it. Never know you may get into rda one day.
 
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gsmit1

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Get an rta to put on it. Put the rda on the shelf or sell it. Never know you may get into rda one day.
The whole thing can be used as an inexpensive training tool too, to learn while she finds out how awesome rdas actually are :inlove:

That's what I was thinking though. This is temporary anyway and yes any rta/rda with a sufficiently protruding positive pin can be used.

It's 25 bucks and the batteries she already has will work. She even has VTC5As.
 

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When i found rda i thought it was it. All id use. But i now have and love multiple kinds of attys. They all have their place and time. Big build low ohm rta and rda setups. And small build higher ohm rigs. Sometimes i go between setups and other times i get stuck in love with just one end of it. But options are the spice of life.
 

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