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CaFF

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I gotta post....

I've been trying to get a guy Ive known for 14yrs to accept vape...he has tried it, but tokes and smokes...
He's got a lot of issues...

I told him to come here and just see, we'll accept him...but he's like oh yer brainwashed, blah blah ....

IDK what to do. It's like he is just wanting to die...knowing the risks. He's got a lot of mental/other shit going on...

Me, I'm to the point of., YUP, YeR GONNA DIE>>CYA.

Thousands of people die everyday, we ain't special. So be it.

No human is actually super special and such a genetic thing that the race cannot do without them.
Even if that were true, which is a mathematical impossibility, why should we care?

Within ten to twenty years, both my genetic and foster families will likely be dead to the 2nd generation back from me. I can't have children because I was kicked a bit too hard by the boys in Jr. High..

Thus, I don't give a shit. It's already done. I'm a dead man walking and the last of my line, full of genes nobody wants and that I can't give.

He knows this of me, so...I have no argument left. He asks why he should care, I don't have an answer as the best thing to happen is for us to just cease and quit being a burden..

Like many of us, we simply do not care if we die, or how. Because there is nothing to live for.

I have Tiki..she is my reason. She is a living being who truly needs me to stay alive and well. She gives me a reason to wake up and and a reason to give a shit. She loves me unconditionally, not because I feed her, but because *I* am there... she gives me meaning and worth.

She could have any 'owner' as a stray and someone would love her, but I believe she would choose me.

He has pets too, so I try to relate in that way, but i can't get through to him....he's puking up weird shit at 30-something and shitting out blood..

I just can't do it anymore. But, it bothers me that I know how to save him, and I can't because of his ignorance, disease and paranoia.
 
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InMyImage

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I gotta post....

I've been trying to get a guy Ive known for 14yrs to accept vape...he has tried it, but tokes and smokes...
He's got a lot of issues...

I told him to come here and just see, we'll accept him...but he's like oh yer brainwashed, blah blah ....

IDK what to do. It's like he is just wanting to die...knowing the risks. He's got a lot of mental/other shit going on...

Me, I'm to the point of., YUP, YeR GONNA DIE>>CYA.

Thousands of people die everyday, we ain't special. So be it.

No human is actually super special and such a genetic thing that the race cannot do without them.
Even if that were true, which is a mathematical impossibility, why should we care?

Within ten to twenty years, both my genetic and foster families will likely be dead to the 2nd generation back from me. I can't have children because I was kicked a bit too hard by the boys in Jr. High..

Thus, I don't give a shit. It's already done. I'm a dead man walking full of genes nobody wants.

He knows this of me, so...I have no argument left.

Like many of us, we simply do not care if we die, or how. Because there is nothing to live for.

I have Tiki..she is my reason. She is a living being who truly needs me to stay alive and well. She gives me a reason to wake up and and a reason to give a shit. She loves me unconditionally, not because I feed her, but because *I* am there... she gives me meaning and worth.

She could have any 'owner' as a stray and someone would love her, but I believe she would choose me.

He has pets too, so I try to relate in that way, but i can't get through to him....he's puking up weird shit at 30-something and shitting out blood..

I can't do it anymore.
I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this Caff because you obviously do care about him and his wellbeing. Unfortunately sometimes we can't help people who do not want to be helped and it is very difficult to deal with.

As for you... you are one of the people that I enjoy interacting with everyday. If you were gone, I'd miss you and worry about you the same way I do about @Tripster right now.

You are an important part of my support network and the laughter and hunger pain you bring to me everyday are something I look forward to.

Even though we only see each other as avatars, and typed words on a digital screen, I know that we are friends and that is what matters.
 

CaFF

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I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this Caff because you obviously do care about him and his wellbeing. Unfortunately sometimes we can't help people who do not want to be helped and it is very difficult to deal with.

As for you... you are one of the people that I enjoy interacting with everyday. If you were gone, I'd miss you and worry about you the same way I do about @Tripster right now.

You are an important part of my support network and the laughter and hunger pain you bring to me everyday are something I look forward to.

Even though we only see each other as avatars, and typed words on a digital screen, I know that we are friends and that is what matters.

TY :)

But, that is the thing I can't get him to see or accept. I thought I did tonight, but then he's like that is poison, they lie, etc. I'm not well, but I'm not delusional like he can be.

Several years ago, a player in the same online game, a gal who is a doctor in a Mayo hospital and I both told him, he will die horribly if he does not get shit taken care of. He's alive, somehow...but I can't imagine it.

Watching a man die is fairly easy if you can't do anything about it. Not so if you can and are not allowed to.

That is why I didn't go into medicine like my father. You just cannot save them all, no matter what.
He tried to teach me, but I'm just as stubborn as him. It is why he chose to study the dead instead of the living.
 

Fishee

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I gotta post....

I've been trying to get a guy Ive known for 14yrs to accept vape...he has tried it, but tokes and smokes...
He's got a lot of issues...

I told him to come here and just see, we'll accept him...but he's like oh yer brainwashed, blah blah ....

IDK what to do. It's like he is just wanting to die...knowing the risks. He's got a lot of mental/other shit going on...

Me, I'm to the point of., YUP, YeR GONNA DIE>>CYA.

Thousands of people die everyday, we ain't special. So be it.

No human is actually super special and such a genetic thing that the race cannot do without them.
Even if that were true, which is a mathematical impossibility, why should we care?

Within ten to twenty years, both my genetic and foster families will likely be dead to the 2nd generation back from me. I can't have children because I was kicked a bit too hard by the boys in Jr. High..

Thus, I don't give a shit. It's already done. I'm a dead man walking full of genes nobody wants.

He knows this of me, so...I have no argument left.

Like many of us, we simply do not care if we die, or how. Because there is nothing to live for.

I have Tiki..she is my reason. She is a living being who truly needs me to stay alive and well. She gives me a reason to wake up and and a reason to give a shit.

He has pets too, but i can't get through to him....he's puking up weird shit at 30-something.
Fuck bro,
I'm feelin a bit down in the dumps tonight. Just my mind fucking itself. Too much thinking and too many memories.
Any way, melancholia is my visitor tonight.
Driving home from work, thinking about...............you CaFF.
Wondering how you would be feeling when the the clock struck midnight on your side of the world.
I'm feeling very apathetic tonight. And I wonder to myself, "why the fuck do people think apathy is such a negative thing?" and "why the fuck do people try to make apathetic people feel bad about being apathetic?"
If a person is apathetic then why waste your time trying to send that apathetic person on a guilt trip?
Their apathetic, they don't give a fuck lol

People will do what they choose to do.
My cousin shot himself less than two weeks ago.
There are no "what ifs" fuck all that what if bullshit.
Several years ago my best friend shot himself. He came over that night and told me he was gonna do it.
I did the whole trying to talk him out of it. I'm sure it's not a far stretch of the imagination as to what I or any one else in my shoes would have said.
But it didn't matter what I said. He still shot himself dead.
And I was so fucking mad at him for a really long time for doing that.
Till I realized he wasn't there to have me tell him how much he was loved or how much he would be missed or blah blah blah.
He simply came by to tell me he was leaving and tell me good bye before he went.
Upon realizing that, I never felt angry toward him again.
I couldn't persuade him. I couldn't convince him.
All I could do was love him, And in loving him I had to also accept him.
Same thing with my cousin. I love him. I accept his decision. Even though I don't like it and it hurts and it will continue to hurt.
I'm probably just rambling and feel as if clicking the post button might be something I shouldn't do.
But since I'm somewhat apathetic I think I will go ahead and click it.
Love you Caff. Really do. And really hope that you can help your friend out in as many ways as possible.
Sorry I don't have much to offer in advice.
 

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TY :)

But, that is the thing I can't get him to see or accept. I thought I did tonight, but then he's like that is poison, they lie, etc. I'm not well, but I'm not delusional like he can be.

Several years ago, a player in the same online game, a gal who is a doctor in a Mayo hospital and I both told him, he will die horribly if he does not get shit taken care of. He's alive, somehow...but I can't imagine it.

Watching a man die is fairly easy if you can't do anything about it. Not so if you can and are not allowed to.
I agree. I had a close friend die a very slow wasting death from multiple small brain tumors that could not be treated. It took months for his suffering to end and during that time his sense weakend and failed one by one until he finally lost the ability to swallow. It was torture for his friends and family because all they could do was watch and try to entertain and comfort him to the best of their ability.

I have some significant issues with death and one of the few regrets in my life is that I could not bring myself to spend time with him knowing that his death was inevitable. I'm not afraid of dying I just have my own personal issues dealing with it.

I feel for you and truly do not wish to be in your shoes.
 

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Fuck bro,
I'm feelin a bit down in the dumps tonight. Just my mind fucking itself. Too much thinking and too many memories.
Any way, melancholia is my visitor tonight.
Driving home from work, thinking about...............you CaFF.
Wondering how you would be feeling when the the clock struck midnight on your side of the world.
I'm feeling very apathetic tonight. And I wonder to myself, "why the fuck do people think apathy is such a negative thing?" and "why the fuck do people try to make apathetic people feel bad about being apathetic?"
If a person is apathetic then why waste your time trying to send that apathetic person on a guilt trip?
Their apathetic, they don't give a fuck lol

People will do what they choose to do.
My cousin shot himself less than two weeks ago.
There are no "what ifs" fuck all that what if bullshit.
Several years ago my best friend shot himself. He came over that night and told me he was gonna do it.
I did the whole trying to talk him out of it. I'm sure it's not a far stretch of the imagination as to what I or any one else in my shoes would have said.
But it didn't matter what I said. He still shot himself dead.
And I was so fucking mad at him for a really long time for doing that.
Till I realized he wasn't there to have me tell him how much he was loved or how much he would be missed or blah blah blah.
He simply came by to tell me he was leaving and tell me good bye before he went.
Upon realizing that, I never felt angry toward him again.
I couldn't persuade him. I couldn't convince him.
All I could do was love him, And in loving him I had to also accept him.
Same thing with my cousin. I love him. I accept his decision. Even though I don't like it and it hurts and it will continue to hurt.
I'm probably just rambling and feel as if clicking the post button might be something I shouldn't do.
But since I'm somewhat apathetic I think I will go ahead and click it.
Love you Caff. Really do. And really hope that you can help your friend out in as many ways as possible.
Sorry I don't have much to offer in advice.
Holy crap, does anyone see a pig flying because Fishee just said something really really deep
 

CaFF

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Fuck bro,
I'm feelin a bit down in the dumps tonight. Just my mind fucking itself. Too much thinking and too many memories.
Any way, melancholia is my visitor tonight.
Driving home from work, thinking about...............you CaFF.
Wondering how you would be feeling when the the clock struck midnight on your side of the world.
I'm feeling very apathetic tonight. And I wonder to myself, "why the fuck do people think apathy is such a negative thing?" and "why the fuck do people try to make apathetic people feel bad about being apathetic?"
If a person is apathetic then why waste your time trying to send that apathetic person on a guilt trip?
Their apathetic, they don't give a fuck lol

People will do what they choose to do.
My cousin shot himself less than two weeks ago.
There are no "what ifs" fuck all that what if bullshit.
Several years ago my best friend shot himself. He came over that night and told me he was gonna do it.
I did the whole trying to talk him out of it. I'm sure it's not a far stretch of the imagination as to what I or any one else in my shoes would have said.
But it didn't matter what I said. He still shot himself dead.
And I was so fucking mad at him for a really long time for doing that.
Till I realized he wasn't there to have me tell him how much he was loved or how much he would be missed or blah blah blah.
He simply came by to tell me he was leaving and tell me good bye before he went.
Upon realizing that, I never felt angry toward him again.
I couldn't persuade him. I couldn't convince him.
All I could do was love him, And in loving him I had to also accept him.
Same thing with my cousin. I love him. I accept his decision. Even though I don't like it and it hurts and it will continue to hurt.
I'm probably just rambling and feel as if clicking the post button might be something I shouldn't do.
But since I'm somewhat apathetic I think I will go ahead and click it.
Love you Caff. Really do. And really hope that you can help your friend out in as many ways as possible.
Sorry I don't have much to offer in advice.

Yup, I understand everything you said. One of my first gf, her brother got ht by a mack truck while on a bicycle going downhill at 45mph. I had to be there for her for an open casket funeral....did not go well.

Been there, still am in a lot of ways. I have lost a lot of people over the years. You harden up after awhile. But, not for family....them you remember. Those, you know the good they had.

Al I can do is persevere. Be as good as I can. Mebbe help someone, affect someones life.

I'm not gonna be the guy that goes to Uni, be some kind of genius and change the world like I was raised to think I could be. That was a farce. A high IQ means nothing without practical application.

But, I'm not useless either. I'm unique. I am not without worth. :)

Neither are you my friend. I also look for you everyday here and know I have a kindred spirit. :)
 

CaFF

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WE love our Fishee. :)

In some beliefs, every smile you bring another, is a smile the gods have upon you...

We are clowns you and I, but we want to see the light in their faces, not ours.

In that, is good.
 

Fishee

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Yup, I understand everything you said. One of my first gf, her brother got ht by a mack truck while on a bicycle going downhill at 45mph. I had to be there for her for an open casket funeral....did not go well.

Been there, still am in a lot of ways. I have lost a lot of people over the years. You harden up after awhile. But, not for family....them you remember. Those, you know the good they had.

Al I can do is persevere. Be as good as I can. Mebbe help someone, affect someones life.

I'm not gonna be the guy that goes to Uni, be some kind of genius and change the world like I was raised to think I could be. That was a farce. A high IQ means nothing without practical application.

But, I'm not useless either. I'm unique. I am not without worth. :)

Neither are you my friend. I also look for you everyday here and know I have a kindred spirit. :)
:)
We certainly have much in common my friend.
And I feel the same for you. I enjoy coming to this place because I know I will be interacting with friends and kindred spirits
 

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Crazy busy, made ten bucks in tips. Not bad for a fast food cook :)
Strangely though we got out of there earlier than normal nightso_O
So really busy but went really smooth.
Glad to hear that. And actually think that it was probably better for you than tooling around the house alone right now given everything you have been through the last couple of weeks.
 

CaFF

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FWIW, I'm OK..just a discouraging affair with old friends, and one that i thought had changed.

I'm getting old, I don't have many left.

May you have...


Walls for the wind
And a roof for the rain,
And drinks bedside the fire
Laughter to cheer you
And those you love near you,
And all that your heart may desire

Slainte M'hath....Merrye New Year..
 

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@CaFF did you kick back with a nice crafted brew? From the bottles you have shown it looks like you enjoy a lot of micro-brews.
 

Fishee

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CaFF, InMyImage, I hope you both have a good night.
Time for my sleeping
Gotta be to work again in almost exactly ten hours.
I'm pooped.

I am also feeling much more gooder after having chit chatted with you fellas.
You guys are good people!

Good night:)
 

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CaFF, InMyImage, I hope you both have a good night.
Time for my sleeping
Gotta be to work again in almost exactly ten hours.
I'm pooped.

I am also feeling much more gooder after having chit chatted with you fellas.
You guys are good people!

Good night:)
Glad to be here and hope you have a good day tomorrow.
 

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Ug.. Spent my New years on the phone to centurylink tech support(less).. Stoopid Internets been going crazy for almost a month, and tonight my xbox one would connect, but wouldnt play due to '100% packet loss'.. :(
 

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Well if it's only 100%, then what's the problem?
 

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Anyhow, hope you get things settled for your Xbox soon. I don't play any of the on-line games on our 360, but I know it has to be frustrating if you do and can't especially given the outages that I heard about on xmas.

I'm gonna try to get some rest for a couple of hours, have a long day doing a cleanse for my son today. The joys of having a child with GI problems who can't take care of himself :(

@CaFF, if you are still hanging out, take care and I'll catch you later.

Have a good one @Midniteoyl
 

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No battlefield 4.. :(

Fucking rep was an ass though... Finally got it all back up, have them reset the card in their DSLAM and move me over to a different set of IP's and then remove the stoopid 'walled garden' the first ass accidentally put into place on my accounts.. All he would say after trying to make me reflash the firmware on everything was "Load balance routers arent supported." Ok, it worked for over 2 years just fine. "Well, I can see your modems are connected so its not on our end" Ya, I told you that they were connected and synched 2 hours ago, but I cant actually get an IP from your DHCP servers and get on the internet! "Tech will be there Friday sometime before 5:31pm". Asshole...

The next guy couldnt even get in to my account, "You have an account number and not a phone number?" Ya, I have 2 lines under one account. "Ok, can you tell me your modems serial number?" I guess, dunno why though but first one is xxxxxx... "Thats NOT a Westell 7500.." Excuse me? I'm looking at the model number right now! "The serial number doesnt come up as one.. " Well, trust me, they both are 7500's "Hum, you say a 9 digit account, huh? I dont even know how to get into an account without a 10 digit phone number.." G'bye.. I'll call back and get someone who isnt a moron.. (click)

Call back and get a lady who listens, then says they dont handle 9 digit accounts? What? Get put on hold for 20 mins. Hang up.

I play around and then call again. Lady understands what I have, and what I am doing. She resets the card and changes IP's. Boom, I get proper IP's. Go on the Net and get slammed into a Wall Garden (both lines).. She takes a few minutes, removes the Gardens and resets again.. BAM! back up and running.. How simple was that? If the first ass would have just done that like I asked in the first place, I wouldnt have spent 4 hours being fucking frustrated .. :mad:
 

muth

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Good morning and Happy New Year everyone! You would be proud of me. As tired as I was after work I managed to get dolled up and go out for dinner. I surprised myself! I think I'll make this quote part of my new year's resolution.

"To lead a life in which we are inspired and can inspire others, our hearts have to be alive; they have to be filled with passion and enthusiasm. To achieve that, as President Toda also said, we need the courage to "live true to ourselves." And to live true to ourselves, we need the strength of mind not to be swayed by our environment or be obsessed with vanity and superficial appearances. Rather than borrowing from or imitating others, we need the conviction to be able to think for ourselves and to take action from our own sense of responsibility."
 

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You too Muth, gonna try to have a nap at some point today, just because I feel a tad bit lazy today:)
 

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No battlefield 4.. :(

Fucking rep was an ass though... Finally got it all back up, have them reset the card in their DSLAM and move me over to a different set of IP's and then remove the stoopid 'walled garden' the first ass accidentally put into place on my accounts.. All he would say after trying to make me reflash the firmware on everything was "Load balance routers arent supported." Ok, it worked for over 2 years just fine. "Well, I can see your modems are connected so its not on our end" Ya, I told you that they were connected and synched 2 hours ago, but I cant actually get an IP from your DHCP servers and get on the internet! "Tech will be there Friday sometime before 5:31pm". Asshole...

The next guy couldnt even get in to my account, "You have an account number and not a phone number?" Ya, I have 2 lines under one account. "Ok, can you tell me your modems serial number?" I guess, dunno why though but first one is xxxxxx... "Thats NOT a Westell 7500.." Excuse me? I'm looking at the model number right now! "The serial number doesnt come up as one.. " Well, trust me, they both are 7500's "Hum, you say a 9 digit account, huh? I dont even know how to get into an account without a 10 digit phone number.." G'bye.. I'll call back and get someone who isnt a moron.. (click)

Call back and get a lady who listens, then says they dont handle 9 digit accounts? What? Get put on hold for 20 mins. Hang up.

I play around and then call again. Lady understands what I have, and what I am doing. She resets the card and changes IP's. Boom, I get proper IP's. Go on the Net and get slammed into a Wall Garden (both lines).. She takes a few minutes, removes the Gardens and resets again.. BAM! back up and running.. How simple was that? If the first ass would have just done that like I asked in the first place, I wouldnt have spent 4 hours being fucking frustrated .. :mad:
Lord have mercy! Can't tell you how many frustrating hours I've spent like that. Glad you're up and running.
 

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