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+1 on the Sapor. Just got my second one today. Lots of airflow from the top so there are no leaks unless you turn it upside down. It has a chuff style tip and a 510 adapter and drip tip. Four post holes and the center will not spin as it is rectangular going into the base. And it has about a 4 mm deep dripwell so you can get quite a bit of juice in there. I use it for testing my DIY recipes before committing it to a tank.
 

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+1 on the Sapor. Just got my second one today. Lots of airflow from the top so there are no leaks unless you turn it upside down. It has a chuff style tip and a 510 adapter and drip tip. Four post holes and the center will not spin as it is rectangular going into the base. And it has about a 4 mm deep dripwell so you can get quite a bit of juice in there. I use it for testing my DIY recipes before committing it to a tank.
Is the flavor similar to an aeolus?
 

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Just vaped the Sapor and my DotMod Petri side by side. Flavor is damn close and I mean close but the Petri wins. I also prefer the Petri's airflow, it's sooo smooth. My rank right now is Petri, Sapor, Twisted Messes and Velocity clone as a tie. They're freakin chuckers, Jack! Hopefully my Alliance V2 will be here Monday.
 

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Just vaped the Sapor and my DotMod Petri side by side. Flavor is damn close and I mean close but the Petri wins. I also prefer the Petri's airflow, it's sooo smooth. My rank right now is Petri, Sapor, Twisted Messes and Velocity clone as a tie. They're freakin chuckers, Jack! Hopefully my Alliance V2 will be here Monday.
The airflow on the sapor really has a different feel to it compared to most rdas I've tried, but I do love my twisted messes. Wish I had the cash for a petri, I've tried a few and they're a pretty nice vape.

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Well I just got the double vision by comvape ( made by the twisted messes folk). This atty is right on point. Comes with two build decks and a choice of red or black cap included. Same juice well as the 13th and twisted and el cabron. Loving it with a single coil on my noisy cricket

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Moving a discussion that wandered a bit OT over here...

I'm not bored yet but I've set myself a limit to seven RDA's and I think the next one is probably going to be an Aeolus lite. The Sapor? - Don't think so... Don't think it would match the Vector and even if the vape did... the construction quality doesn't. You should read some of the Sapor thread over at ECF especially the last page or so...
Thanks for the heads up, @Izen!

That's unfortunate, but I don't need another Crius experience, so I guess I'll pass on the Sapor and look for a different top flow solution/experience.

The Marquis? Isn't that an improved Veritas? (I'm kidding).... I like a challenging build - sometimes - and it looks very similar to the Veritas because it is. Even though I like a challenge, that one's already a pain in the ass to build... I don't need two of them.
They are very similar, except the Marquis seems to have more/better building and airflow options. The Veritas is probably a bit more spill-/leak-resistant. I like the Marquis' center post design much better.

YOU really should consider a Vector before throwing down funds on a Sapor. Prices are sharp in a few places, it'll cost you less. It's an authentic from an authentic manufacturer.
I looked at the Vector. Probably shouldn't judge an RDA by its reviews and pictures on-line, but I don't think I'd like that one.

Re: low end producers of RDA's (clone mfg'ers, generally speaking)... I have an insiders manufacturing background (a broad statement I know, but)... From a mfg. perspective in simplest terms it's all about quality. I'd sooner own a lower-end piece from a quality manufacturer... than an 'authentic' from a factory whose usual SOP is to bang 'em out the door. I think the differences between the Vector & Sapor illustrate this nicely. I don't mean to 'denigrate' the Sapor. I posted earlier that some folks love it. I'm aware of that. Also, it's not fair of me to voice an opinion of something that I've no direct experience of... still.
Don't disagree with anything you've written, here.

Just occurred to me - duh! - I've diverted far from the OP topic and so my apologies for doing this...
Wandering conversation moved to more appropriate thread. Hope that's ok?
 

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Jim, what is it about the Vector that puts you off?
 

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I think the differences between the Vector & Sapor illustrate this nicely. I don't mean to 'denigrate' the Sapor. I posted earlier that some folks love it. I'm aware of that. Also, it's not fair of me to voice an opinion of something that I've no direct experience of... still.

What still... no you are right ... it is not fair. Sapor is well built.
 

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What still... no you are right ... it is not fair. Sapor is well built.
Suggest you find & read the "main" Sapor thread over at ECF. Doesn't reflect well on the Sapor. Though it appears the problem experiences have been limited, as opposed to the Crius, for example.
 

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What still... no you are right ... it is not fair. Sapor is well built.
As I said, I don't know. I'm just a messenger. Some owners have posted of their issues with it in the (RDA/Sapor thread) at the other forum.
 

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Jim, what is it about the Vector that puts you off?
Four things, compared to the Sapor:
  • It looks like the incoming airflow is more dispersed, the way it hits the coils
  • Air intakes are on the top, whereas the Sapor's are actually on the sides
  • Posts: Vector has three. Sapor has three, but the center post is more like two posts
  • Apparently you have to be careful building the Vector, lest the coils hit the top cap
Plus the LVS has a Sapor in stock and it'll be on sale Wednesday ;)
 

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Four things, compared to the Sapor:
  • It looks like the incoming airflow is more dispersed, the way it hits the coils
  • Air intakes are on the top, whereas the Sapor's are actually on the sides
  • Posts: Vector has three. Sapor has three, but the center post is more like two posts
  • Apparently you have to be careful building the Vector, lest the coils hit the top cap
Plus the LVS has a Sapor in stock and it'll be on sale Wednesday ;)
  1. The airflow setup is brilliant. A beautiful range of adjustment.
  2. Ok. Why would this be a problem having the intake on the top?
  3. Ok, subjective. The Vector has huge post holes.
  4. This is true but not a problem. not a tough clearance. It's also largely what contributes to the great flavor of this atty.
Edit: I'd written somewhere that the Sapor would spit out the sides. I was wrong, (had a dumb moment). Very sorry about that. I don't have one, but it looks to a really clean vaping & dry atty.
 
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FYI
THE VECTORS TIP GETS REALLY HOT,

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I had a concern about that before I bought it. It had been mentioned in some posts and YouTube videos. I bought it anyway, mostly because of my experience with the Vulcan. VLS does very nice machining. I didn't find the tip overly hot at all. I think it's probably true if one chain vapes at higher watts. I don't. It's a non-issue.
 

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I had a concern about that before I bought it. It had been mentioned in some posts and YouTube videos. I bought it anyway, mostly because of my experience with the Vulcan. VLS does very nice machining. I didn't find the tip overly hot at all. I think it's probably true if one chain vapes at high temps. I don't. It's a non-issue.
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I had to buy a drip tip sleeve for it, due to kind of coils I put in there, but over all yeah if u chain VAPE it will get hot and if u built around .3 you good to go, and the vector has this premium feel, the chamber locks like the velocity. Yeah for flavor vector all the way, and you can MTL on these bad boys...


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I bought the VLS for my indestructible atty.. I haven't tried it on the vectors


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Ok, guys, I'll keep an eye out. But it'll have to be a clone. I don't have $65 for an RDA.
 

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Jim !!! you can buy the authentic Vector for $19.95 !!! at Viper-vapes... same at another site... I'll look it up.
 

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See the vaping360.com review.
I'd read that before and I just read it again... Jim (my friend whom I don't know), you might consider taking some things with a 'grain of salt' and in this case... a big grain-of-salt. All non-issues. If or when you ramp up... don't blow through it... just a few small starter pulls if necessary. And it goes without saying - but I gotta say it - the spit back screen in the drip tip has to go. It's a whole 'nother beast - far better - without that screen.
 

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Don't like SS izen but that's a good deal


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I feel safer with only stainless... I'll make an exception with the vapor deposition finishes that you have on your Vector's. They did that right. They're both beauties. I like the Gunmetal a lot... but I haven't seen any price drops on them so stainless it was. No regrets !!!
 

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Have any of you tried the Stro Mini? Velocity Deck on a slightly taller Derringer, You can install some pretty big builds on it and the chamber is much smaller then the Velocity (and Velocity mini) so it would give a more condensed vapor. It seems to be a well thought out rda....

Im guessing almost everyone here has had a TFV4, but have you tried the TF-R2 RBA with it? With a simple 22g 6 wrap/2.5mm Diameter Dual Coil provides flavor thats more intense and warm then 95% of RDA's and builds that Ive ever done and Ive owned and tried almost everything out there to date. The best part is its a tank but thats also a downfall...due to it being so easy to fill and intense and you dont need to constantly drip. I have lost interest in much of what I own due to this tank/rba and I have tried to find something that produces results that can compare to it.
 

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Ordered! Thanks for the pointer, @Izen! I probably needed another RDA like I needed another hole in the head, but I could not turn down a deal like that for an authentic RDA--my first authentic RDA, in fact.

I'm a little put off by their somewhat excessive USPS Priority 2-Day charge, but it still came out to less than half the normal price for the RDA, alone.
Trust me on this... as far as I know they still have a decent inventory of these. The first one they sent me, I rejected. Don't know how or why but it wasn't perfect-never-before-handled-and-had-some-fine-scratches. I don't blame them. I'm sure they don't (can't) inspect the contents of every box they ship... I called them to return. It was easy & painless; their CS is top notch, excellent!!! They sent me a return shipping label... I returned it... They Priority mailed me a replacement... It was PERFECT. They are nice folks!!! Suggest you call them and ask them to inspect the contents prior to shipping. My experience of getting a repackaged one was probably a fluke but, fwiw...
 

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The first one they sent me, I rejected. ... Suggest you call them and ask them to inspect the contents prior to shipping. My experience of getting a repackaged one was probably a fluke but, fwiw...
Ok. I'll try to make a point of doing that first thing tomorrow morning, their time. Thanks again!

What kind of build have you been putting on this RDA, @Izen?
 

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...What kind of build have you been putting on this RDA, @Izen?
Good ones Jim, good ones. But srsly... I usually change-up RDA's and builds every other day or so... sometimes I trash the build when I'm done (because I like to re-build for the next time), sometimes not. The last build on my Vector - as it's still intact - is 0.61 ohm, 26Ga., Kanthal, 2.5mm ID, dual coil, 9/10 wrap - simple! GL w/yours !!! I'll fall off my chair if you don't digg it !!!
 

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That is a ridiculously low price for a Vector.
That's why, despite the fact I really didn't need another RDA right away (I've purchased all three I have w/in the last two weeks), I really couldn't turn it down. A top air feed RDA was "on my list." Now I can check that one off. Probably. If I find myself in agreement with @Izen and @ej1024, anyway ;)
 

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The Vector has a fantastic deck, a dream to build on. Let us know how you get on dude. :)
 
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starting line-up, cant help but find the petri and aeolusnto kill it on flavor and the indestructible to be the most versatile. but the tugboat will always be a great all around rda.
the p3 is just in the pic- cant help0 but find that setup to have a place for the professional world. -you know when you cant make a cloud..lol
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Received my Vector today. My word: What a nicely done piece of work! Really looking forward to the build and vape. I'm going to wait until this weekend, so I can take my time with it.
 

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WE's a looong way off. A man of your skills should be able to slap a build on and put her to work. For me a 1st build on a new piece is like a discovery of it. It's the 2nd build where I make it better. But that's just me...
 

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WE's a looong way off.
Nah. Besides: Anticipation is half the fun and I'm still playing with that Velocity Mini. I just pulled the trigger on that Vector now because I wanted to get it at that price while I could.

As an aside: Stopped into an LVS on the way home, last night, to buy some Archangel on sale. One of the guys behind the counter was using a Sapor and swore by it. I begin to suspect the deal with that RDA is manufacturing inconsistency. You either get a good one or you do not.
 

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Well, I got the Vector built. Ten turns of 26 ga. Kanthal on 2.5mm. Came out to 0.6Ω on the money. Wicked it with Native Wicks. Vapes nicely at 40W. Vapour seems dense and slightly warm. But...

Unfortunately, I've been vaping far too much, lately, and a varety of juices. So my taste is about entirely shot :(

I'm going to set all the DI stuff aside for a day or two. Got my wife's Nautilus Mini (she's currently using my MTL stuff) with a 1.8Ω BVC coil in it loaded with a mellow 70/30 juice and I'm going to stick with that until this vape tongue goes away.
 

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Well, I got the Vector built. ...Unfortunately, I've been vaping far too much, lately, and a varety of juices. So my taste is about entirely shot :( ...
When you get back into it... just want to remind you to push out the spit screen from the drip tip / mouthpiece if you haven't already. Don't even think about it. Just do it. Makes the vape far better. You can always put it back, but you (probably) won't.
 

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