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Thunderball

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That would be an excellent trade for you since your a lung hitter. I have a couple of the Kanger sub tanks and its too airy for me even in single hole mode and Im not a lung hitter. Its a great tank though. Perfect for you.
This chart may help you. You will have to know what size your drill bit/ screw driver/ Needle guage is before you can automaticallly know how many wraps to use to get your projected ohm target.

http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp
 

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@Daintanee I have not played with the kanger subohm tank, only because it's SUBohm. I do like my Kay fun Lite v3 clone though. It is easy to rebuild and wick. There is also a new Kay fun v4 out. The v4 has a bigger deck that makes it easier to rebuild. They also have a v4 s (?) that has a bigger air flow for you lung hitters. I do think that the v4 is not a good tank dipper to start with though. I'm sure the Kanger subohm tank would work great for you as long as your not building subohm coils. I'm not sure if they have replaceable attys for it that are not sure ohm. Might be something your want to look into?

Just some food for thought :)
 

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I've read people building them to 1.5 ohm. It's suggested to start single coil non sub ohm build. It has a 2 separate part, 1 for stock .5 ohm or 1.2 ohm. Tried stock .5 ohm and HOLY hot hells! Then it has a separate build deck with top and side thingy comes off. I'm going to read more and attempt the simplist possible for this. They need a book... rba's for dummies!
 

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Make the trade if you really want to try sub ohming. Today, before she comes to her senses. Just kidding, each to their own.

The Kanger subtank is a really good tank. There are some things you need to know though.

The good:

A big tank. It's needed as you will go through juices faster at low ohms.
Prebuilt coils. They are available in 1.2 and .5 ohms and they work without you having to do anything but screw them in. It is fairly simple to rebuild the prebuilt coils.
A rebuildable head similar to other chimney type tanks. Simple to build with a single coil. 26g wire, 5 full wraps (ends sticking out in opposite directions) wrapped on a 3/32 drill bit or a 2.5mm rod (as in a coil builder) will give you about a .7ohm coil. works well, and is a good place to start.
Both the prebuilt and the RBA heads have good flavor, and if you want, big clouds. Excellent adjustable airflow for a tank.

The Bad:

You'll need some tools and supplies.
An ohm reader $10, This is a must. It is also convenient stand to build upon.
needle-nosed pliers $5,
flush snipping wire cutters $7,
3/32",7/64",and 1/8"drill bits $2.50 each or a coil builder $15
a set of precision screw drivers $6,
wire in 26g 28g, and most likely 30g if you wish to build high (above 1.2) ohm duel coils (100' rolls for $5 to $10. Less in smaller lengths).

The initial cost can be high to rebuild, but actually it is dirt cheap.

You will have to make a decision on which kind of wicking material you are going to use. This decision is bound to win you friends and make you enemies. Weigh your choices carefully., as you don't want to be caught using cotton balls while vaping with the Ready X Wick aficionados, or using Koga Cotton around the Cotton Baconers. Lord forbid you think about Silica. You'll be banned from vape meets. Its so 2013ish.

The Ugly:

The original Kanger Subtank has a flaw in the RBA head This does not apply if you use only prebuilt heads.

Open up the RBA head (unscrew the chimney from it) and look at the coils. In your case it probably has not been used and is still in the box along with other parts. Look at the blocks with a screw in them for attaching the coils. You will notice that the larger of the two blocks is sitting on a piece of plastic. That plastic insulates the positive post from the rest of the atty so it doesn't short out. If that plastic is a white color. DO NOT USE the rba until you replace the plastic with a grey colored insulator that Kangor will send you free of charge in about two weeks if you send them an email. It is a simple thing to do. You can continue to use the Kangor Subtank as you have been with the prebuilt coils.

The reason for this is that they used an inferior material to make the insulator. The white one will melt in certain eliquids and then short out. Kanger immediately fixed this when they found out. Benefit of the doubt given here.

All in all, I would make the swap. That's just me. If you do swap and then go on to rebuild, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
 

Daintanee

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Thanks everyone and I found this too....

http://vapingdealsndiscounts.com/kanthal-a1-wire-resistance-chart/

@caddisfly I have more money in my barn than my house. My husband works on cars, the house, does wiring, plumbing (but not so well imo) point is he has all these thing a ma Bob's. Can I use istick 50 watt as ohm meter or no? Maybe he's got that too.

Sub tank is the mini & has been used, but I'll check the insulator plastic thingy. Thanks for all of the info. I heard about that melting issue in a thread I read somewhere, but didn't pay attention. Thanks!
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Lol! He might have something to say about your theft of his tools though.
Yes, you can use the ohm reader on the mod, but you don't want to build on the mod, it is not a stable platform and has a firing button on it. You need something to hold the base while you are assembling the coils on it. If there is a button to be pushed accidentally, at some point it will be and sparks will fly. An ohm reader makes a great stand to work on and serves as a second opinion on builds. Ohm readers are useful and cheap insurance, if not entirely accurate.

The mini is safe. It was only a problem on the full sized one. I must have misread your post.

Your welcome and welcome to the dark side. :eek:
 

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Bwahahahahahaha! LOL!
 

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Does anyone have a good cake/cupcake recipe that works around Cap Vanilla Cupcake? I really can't handle the chemical/alcohol ingredients in that mix. But I do have a nice stock of FA :D thanks to you all :D
 

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Dude! He has an ohm meter and can get resistant kanthal wire from work! I love him even more now!

I could never get consistent measurements with an ohm meter so I splurged for the one that's made for this job.
Works much easier and is much more accurate.
Sure beats chasing them little critters around on the desk.:D
 

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Does anyone have a good cake/cupcake recipe that works around Cap Vanilla Cupcake? I really can't handle the chemical/alcohol ingredients in that mix. But I do have a nice stock of FA :D thanks to you all :D

Need more info?
At what % are you using this?
What's the recipe?
 

Daintanee

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I could never get consistent measurements with an ohm meter so I splurged for the one that's made for this job.
Works much easier and is much more accurate.
Sure beats chasing them little critters around on the desk.:D
Ya know, he told me those ones for ecig coil building are cheap junk...and low and behold he knows how to build coils. He's a mechanical technician. He's also my math man. Oh, and he thanks @caddisfly telling me not to build on a battery.
 

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Im looking for feed back please!
I put this together last night and it's pretty good imo.
4% Irish Cream
3% Caramel
1% Anise
.25% Cinnamon Ceylon
All FA of course.
I get a sweet inhale with a slight black licorice exhale. Let me know what yall get.

This is pretty good, kinda tastes like Chocolate Anise...
 

Zeeli

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You guys are to kind! It is actually a stab at a close eye of Absolute Pin by 5 Pawns I think. I subbed the Anise for the Absinthe since I didn't have any.

I'm super glad you guys are enjoying it!
 

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I could swear I read somewhere that FA Almond at low % gives a buttery flavor? @hic
 

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Usually a nut flavor combined with coconut does that, for me. Small amount of each, so you don't necessarily taste it as "flavor", but gives that buttery feel. I've used Nut Mix at 1.5% and Coconut at 2% in a recipe. I tasted the coconut, the nut mix, not very much, the buttery feel AND taste was there. That was the first time I ever noticed that. Pretty cool what flavors will do.
 

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I'm trying to put together a buttery, brown sugery, Baked pineapple, pineapple upside down cake. I have tried two different recipes from here, one Hics and one from Huck, both are good, but not what I'm after.
 

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I could swear I read somewhere that FA Almond at low % gives a buttery flavor? @hic

(you have to @HeadInClouds to tag me; hic is just shorthand)

All of FA's nut flavors, including coconut, can give some buttery flavor. Caramel and/or Butterscotch are often involved, along with something creamy. Sometimes a little ap (often in the form of Cookie) can help.

Aiming for brown-sugar baked flavor may or may not involve TFA Brown Sugar flavor. Read about Maillard reaction (as it pertains to butter and sugars) to decide which flavorings you really want. The same is true for cookies. A half-cooked cookie still has brown sugar flavor. Once it's hard-cooked, the sugars have all caramelized. Basically.
 

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@hic still achieved a response from you though! LoL!!

@HeadInClouds so what I'm getting from you is I may have to use more caramel or butterscotch to get to the desired flavor?
 

Daintanee

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Oh @Zeeli I loved it! Buttery? Call me coocoo, but for buttery, my best results...and I haven't tried almond yet, but .25% FA Hazelnut, .25% TFA Acetyl pyrazine.. (unless your using cookie, has it in there) .25% FA Caramel, and 1% FA Vienna cream has given me the best buttery taste, with .25% FA Meringue....but not sure it played a part or not. I've tried it with fa walnut, even @ .5% and hazelnut worked better. Look at HICs peanut butter recipe. I was trying to get the butter w/o peanut.
 

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@hic still achieved a response from you though! LoL!!

@HeadInClouds so what I'm getting from you is I may have to use more caramel or butterscotch to get to the desired flavor?

I don't know if you need more or less of either or both - haven't tasted it! With a real recipe that uses butter and brown sugar, that's butterscotch and perhaps some extra brown sugar if it remains partially uncaramelized. If it's white sugar, then caramel instead of butterscotch. If it uses both brown and whlte sugar, then probably a combo.
 

Zeeli

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I don't know if you need more or less of either or both - haven't tasted it!
I don't know what it tastes like either Hic! I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. I'm just trying to plot how to get there.
I'm going to take a stab at the "baked pineapple" as well. Maybe with some Brandy.
 

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I don't know what it tastes like either Hic! I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. I'm just trying to plot how to get there.
I'm going to take a stab at the "baked pineapple" as well. Maybe with some Brandy.
...or Amber or Rum. :)
Sounds like you need to make the real thing for analysis. Not kidding!
 

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Yes! I agree! We need the real cake to compare! (Happens to be one of my favorite cakes!)
 

JXN

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Buttery Maple Nougat Cookie
Cookie (FA), 2.00%
FLV Swiss Bliss, 2.00% (light version)
Torrone (FA), 1.00%
Walnut (FA), 0.50%
Coconut (FA), 0.50%
Vienna Cream (FA), 0.50%
Maple Syrup (FA), 0.50%
Vanilla Classic (FA), 0.50%

Been vaping this and variations for three days now.
Not quite as good to me without Swiss Bliss but still tasty
The "light" version of Swiss Bliss is...
2% Cocoa
2% Chocolate
1.5% Acetyl Pyrazine
 
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I'm trying to put together a buttery, brown sugery, Baked pineapple, pineapple upside down cake. I have tried two different recipes from here, one Hics and one from Huck, both are good, but not what I'm after.
I didn't make a Pineapple Upside Down Cake. Did you mean @caddisfly?
 

vegaslineman

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Howdy all!
I just spent 2 weeks reading this thread and OMG the amount of information here is incredible. Thank you to all the contributors. It is like a mini course in DIY juice. I am sure everything I make will be better with the knowledge and experience you shared.
I haven't even received my first FA order and have already done a second a need to do a third
 

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@HeadInClouds is it the coils or tank that has the machine oil taste? I'm thinking of doing a few of these and the other tank I am bartering for.
It's machine oil where the manufacturer ground the threads, etc. for the tank. Unlikely you would have any on your coils unless it's just transfer.
 

Daintanee

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What doesn't she like? I just got my wife one and its nice,told her to run the Kanger mini sub tank at 17w and works like a champ.
She doesn't like it that she can't use 18mg. Of nicotine in it cause it kills her throat. I'm thinking I'm quite happy she doesn't like it! I am happy to trade.
 

Daintanee

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Buttery Maple Nougat Cookie
Cookie (FA), 2.00%
FLV Swiss Bliss, 2.00% (light version)
Torrone (FA), 1.00%
Walnut (FA), 0.50%
Coconut (FA), 0.50%
Vienna Cream (FA), 0.50%
Maple Syrup (FA), 0.50%
Vanilla Classic (FA), 0.50%

Been vaping this and variations for three days now.
Not quite as good to me without Swiss Bliss but still tasty
The "light" version of Swiss Bliss is...
2% Cocoa
2% Chocolate
1.5% Acetyl Pyrazine
Jxn this looks awesome!! @Huckleberried look it's got COOKIE:D
 

vegaslineman

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She doesn't like it that she can't use 18mg. Of nicotine in it cause it kills her throat. I'm thinking I'm quite happy she doesn't like it! I am happy to trade.
LOL she is getting much bigger draws and needs to drop her nic to like 6, just traveled that path myself.
But hey if you're getting a subtank than make the trade
 

Daintanee

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LOL she is getting much bigger draws and needs to drop her nic to like 6, just traveled that path myself.
But hey if you're getting a subtank than make the trade
I made her new juice down to 9mg., some at 6mg, 3 & 0 mg. We always want what we don't have. She wants my set up & I want hers. She wants her 18mg.!! I vape 0-6mg. Yay me!
 

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@HeadInClouds is it the coils or tank that has the machine oil taste? I'm thinking of doing a few of these and the other tank I am bartering for.

Mine is a Kraken Clone so the coil was made by me, haven't tried boiling the tank yet though.
Not real fond of the RSST types anyhow.

Never could get my Squape Clone to work right but no oil taste in that one.
 

Thunderball

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Howdy all!
I just spent 2 weeks reading this thread and OMG the amount of information here is incredible. Thank you to all the contributors. It is like a mini course in DIY juice. I am sure everything I make will be better with the knowledge and experience you shared.
I haven't even received my first FA order and have already done a second a need to do a third

Howdy and welcome ! We still have plenty of room in the building, but I think Daintanee got the last reserved parking space up front. Good luck with your mixing. Glad to have you here. :)
 

Thunderball

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It's machine oil where the manufacturer ground the threads, etc. for the tank. Unlikely you would have any on your coils unless it's just transfer.

Yep......This ^^^^

Daintanee, I had ( still have) a real problem with trying to get the machine oil taste from my Kanger subtank. Probably the worst I have encountered, but hopefully your friend has all of that washed out by now.

( dawn/soak/scrub.....dawn/soak/Scrub.....water bath/scrub.....Alchohol soak..... Yuck..still detected.

I think I'll pop a new replacement head in my mouth and see if I detect any maching oil in that.
 

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