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I just don’t get why the trump folks hate Obama so much. Other than rhetoric and some tweets, I can’t tell much of a difference between the two.

- They both love war/
- They both love the banks.
- They came up with the same health care plan expect one was supposed to reform the other.
- One wanted to loosen immigration and the other makes speech about reform but cuts back room deals.
- They both use race and stupid social issues to create division.
- They both talk about gun control and do nothing (I want my national CCW).

Obama did three things in 8 years I consider achievements. The Iran deal, the Cuba deal and reforming ********* laws. That’s pretty sad for 8 years considering two of those things are so old and arbitrary it made no sense to continue. The bar is set pretty low for ol’ Donny boy.

Really? There are some rather stark differences. Trump isn't perfect but he's no Obama.

I don't know what you mean about Obama reforming xxxx laws. No Federal laws were changed. It's as illegal now as it ever was. A few States reformed their laws but Obama didn't reform anything.
 

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The Democrats sent a very political and long response memo which they knew, because of sources and methods (and more), would have to be heavily redacted, whereupon they would blame the White House for lack of transparency. Told them to re-do and send back in proper form!



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Mr. President, what you call “political” are actually called facts, and your concern for sources and methods would be more convincing if you hadn’t decided to release the GOP memo (“100%”) before reading it and over the objections of the FBI.


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Really? There are some rather stark differences. Trump isn't perfect but he's no Obama.

I don't know what you mean about Obama reforming xxxx laws. No Federal laws were changed. It's as illegal now as it ever was. A few States reformed their laws but Obama didn't reform anything.

The DOJ issued a memo to the DEA not to go after states for medical and recreational sales. Otherwise CO and Washington State wouldn’t be able to do what they are doing. No we Jeff Sessions says he’s going to change that. The memo was the first step in the right direction we’ve seen. I would think that trump being a businessman would reign in the little troll sessions and not upset commerce.

Like everyone says, trump has not been in office very long but I’m not optimistic. Especially since it seems he’s hell bent on nuclear war with Korea
 

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Republicans want to fix DACA far more than the Democrats do. The Dems had all three branches of government back in 2008-2011, and they decided not to do anything about DACA. They only want to use it as a campaign issue. Vote Republican!


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The DOJ issued a memo to the DEA not to go after states for medical and recreational sales. Otherwise CO and Washington State wouldn’t be able to do what they are doing. No we Jeff Sessions says he’s going to change that. The memo was the first step in the right direction we’ve seen. I would think that trump being a businessman would reign in the little troll sessions and not upset commerce.

Like everyone says, trump has not been in office very long but I’m not optimistic. Especially since it seems he’s hell bent on nuclear war with Korea

Yep. Like he did with immigration, Obama directed the agency to not enforce the law. That is not reform. It's not enforcing the law. Reform requires that the law be changed. I don't know how you can consider not enforcing the law as a reform or an accomplishment.

Whether you like it or not, Sessions wants to do his job and enforce the law. If Obama had actually had an accomplishment, it would be legal and Sessions would have no law to enforce as part of his job.

I know it's a popular thing to claim that Trump creates division. But the truth is, Obama created most of the division by not enforcing the laws he could not change. You can't willy nilly decide what laws to enforce and not enforce. It's called the Executive branch. Executive is derived from the word Execute.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/executive

The Medieval Latin root of executive is exsequi, which means “carry out,” and so an executive carries out plans and actions. Executive is also an adjective that describes having the power to make decisions. The president of the United States is the executive branch of the government and is responsible for executing laws that will improve the country for its citizens.

Obama's elected job is to carry out the duties of the constitution and congress. The President does not make or remove laws. The President executes the laws. Obama was derelict and not accomplished in his duty to enforce xxxx laws.

An accomplishment would have been to rescind the laws. Failing to execute the laws is dereliction. :)
 

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Ahh.. I assumed in the context it was written...

LOL.

The context is the claim that Obama accomplished changes in xxxx laws. But there are no Federal changes in xxxx laws, thus there can be no accomplishment.

First there has to be an accomplishment before one can be credited for it. Whether one wants to credit Congress or give some credit to the Pres is moot until there is an actual accomplishment.
 

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The DOJ issued a memo to the DEA not to go after states for medical and recreational sales.
Typical of Obama and his administration. Rather than working to get Congress to change a law they didn't like, they just unilaterally decided not to enforce it via an executive policy or order. DACA is another example of this. The so-called "Dreamers" have been illegal all along, just as the "Dispensaries" in various states are.

Don't get me wrong, I think xxxx should be legal, but a President and his administration simply does not have the authority to simply ignore the law.
 

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Typical of Obama and his administration. Rather than working to get Congress to change a law they didn't like, they just unilaterally decided not to enforce it via an executive policy or order. DACA is another example of this. The so-called "Dreamers" have been illegal all along, just as the "Dispensaries" in various states are.

Don't get me wrong, I think xxxx should be legal, but a President and his administration simply does not have the authority to simply ignore the law.

True and NO president has this right to ignore the law.
 

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Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.


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Gawds servants with swords?

Yep gawd was a bloodthirsty bastigh. Even ordering women, children and the old killed.

but I suppose it was their fault for living in a city that the Jews wanted?
 

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Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

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Gawds servants with swords?

Yep gawd was a bloodthirsty bastigh. Even ordering women, children and the old killed.

but I suppose it was their fault for living in a city that the Jews wanted?

A servant of the lord sent me that bible verse, she’s trying to justify that GOD put trump in the WH! and I need to believe what the Bible said!

I SAID....
GOD GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP... IT WAS THE DEVIL THAT PUT TRUMP THERE!!
I BELIEVE IN BOTH POWERS!

SHE SAID I WILL GO TO HELL FOR SAYING THAT!!
I SAID
SO YOU BELIEVE IN “HELL”



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A servant of the lord sent me that bible verse, she’s trying to justify that GOD put trump in the WH! and I need to believe what the Bible said!

I SAID....
GOD GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP... IT WAS THE DEVIL THAT PUT TRUMP THERE!!
I BELIEVE IN BOTH POWERS!

SHE SAID I WILL GO TO HELL FOR SAYING THAT!!
I SAID
SO YOU BELIEVE IN “HELL”



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Trump will be there waiting on you?
You might want to consider him and his minions trying to take over hell and Make Hell Great Again?
 

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Conway on Porter's alleged abuse: 'I have no reason not to believe these women'

So Conway on the way out soon?

 

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Naah he hates the NFL because of his failed attempt at being a football team owner.

Just one of his many failures...
Remember Atlantic city and similar ventures?

He’s not the only one to fail in Atlantic City


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I just don’t get why the trump folks hate Obama so much. Other than rhetoric and some tweets, I can’t tell much of a difference between the two.

- They both love war/
- They both love the banks.
- They came up with the same health care plan expect one was supposed to reform the other.
- One wanted to loosen immigration and the other makes speech about reform but cuts back room deals.
- They both use race and stupid social issues to create division.
- They both talk about gun control and do nothing (I want my national CCW).

Obama did three things in 8 years I consider achievements. The Iran deal, the Cuba deal and reforming laws. That’s pretty sad for 8 years considering two of those things are so old and arbitrary it made no sense to continue. The bar is set pretty low for ol’ Donny boy.

3 of the worst deals ever .
Trump has at least killed IS
And the big difference between O and Don is Don loves America and is not making apologies like O who hated America and swore there were no Muslim terrorist


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He’s not the only one to fail in Atlantic City


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Really!
You still gonna try to defend that mothefucker!
He’s a CON and you all voted for him got fooled! Stop embarrassing yo self!
Geez!


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Really!
You still gonna try to defend that mothefucker!
He’s a CON and you all voted for him got fooled! Stop embarrassing yo self!
Geez!


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I’m not defending him but alott of people lost in Atlantic City . I do alott of work there and it’s a place of its own normal rules do not apply .

He was the only choice , not who I wanted but the only choice .


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I’m not defending him but alott of people lost in Atlantic City . I do alott of work there and it’s a place of its own normal rules do not apply .

He was the only choice , not who I wanted but the only choice .


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It is what it is......



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You know Hailcat that your posts do indicate mental instability on your part?
Especially your obsession on butthurt and crying.
 

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3 of the worst deals ever .
Trump has at least killed IS
And the big difference between O and Don is Don loves America and is not making apologies like O who hated America and swore there were no Muslim terrorist


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Tell me why the Iran deal was a bad one and why ending the embargo on Cuba went against American interest.

This should be good.
 

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Who is just as bad ? I’m just saying a lot of casinos failed in Atlantic City not just Trump .


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And how many other casinoes in Atlantic city used eminent domain to try and take an old ladys house or to cheat others of money?
 
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