HCIGAR VT133/VT167 Dual 18650 DNA200/250

[cynkrzy]

Well I certainly have a lot to learn. Seems I had made a mistake in the profile and it thought the wire was Ti. Seemed to better hit, warmer tastier, when I changed it to SS316 it was cooler at the same temp and not as flavorful.

I'll check the .pdf you linked, the mod got pretty warm, so letting it cool and will play again in a while, don't want a nic headache.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

You are one of many to whom I trust blindly, Honestly. I say to my friends that a great friend/adviser is a blessing of God and you are one of them. Thanks Steve (and all others who are) helping this beautiful vaping community.We really appreciate.

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WOW, I don't know how to respond other than to say: Thank you for your very kind and generous words. I think were all just here to help each other. I'm just trying to help people stay away from cigarettes and enjoy their mods. I like this thread because I've been fortunate to meet some great, generous people here like you my friend. I can actually say I've met people here that I truly consider friends!

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Deucesjack]

I say we all join hands and break into a healthy verse of Kumbaya. Lol

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[f1r3b1rd]

How about we just grab a cold beverage and a vape?

My voice Sounds like a dying moose

 

[Infinite1]

This all that I've got to say!

And maybe....that I have met some really cool people in this thread. It's my absolute favorite thread. Thanks to you all!

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[BillW50]

Since it's quiet in here I'll post this:

Has anyone other than me noticed the load of mods that has either come out or been announced in what seems like the last few days? A lot of them seem to be just variations in what has already been released. Just a word of warning to all the guys and ladies that hang out here. Companies are rushing stuff out at a maddening pace to beat the 8-8 deadline. I'd think twice about buying a first run of anything atm. I think a lot of companies are putting out not quite finished products or retreads to beat the deadline.

Well I heard a rumor about Evolv is going to release the DNA250 before August 8th.

 

[BillW50]

I'd be surprised if the Triade needs a firmware update. When you hook it up to Escribe, click on the Device Monitor at the top of Escribe. The firmware version will be in the bottom right hand corner (it should be 2016-02-23)

Yeah I don't think they need anything. As all eight profiles are already setup and they are ready to go.

Triade defaults

Profile 1
Power 30W
Temperature: Off
Material Ni200
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 2
Power 50W
Temperature: 450ºF
Material Ni200
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 3
Power 40W
Temperature: 400ºF
Material NiFe30
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 4
Power 40W
Temperature: 400ºF
Material Ti
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 5
Power 40W
Temperature: 400ºF
Material SS304
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 6
Power 40W
Temperature: 400ºF
Material SS316
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 7
Power 40W
Temperature: 400ºF
Material SS316L
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

Profile 8
Power 40W
Temperature: 400ºF
Material SS430
Preheat 100W
Preheat Time Limit 1s

 

[Angrygod50]

Mine showed up Monday had 2 days to play with it and I'm loving it. Thanks again @Wingsfan0310 for the work you did setting up the profiles, made it much easier to navigate (learn) the software. I only use SS316L, Ni200, Ti and Knthal so I changed the profiles to some thing suitable for my vaping style and I,m digging it. Has anyone tried the DNA 75 I'm thinking of getting the SMY SDNA 75.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Mine showed up Monday had 2 days to play with it and I'm loving it. Thanks again @Wingsfan0310 for the work you did setting up the profiles, made it much easier to navigate (learn) the software. I only use SS316L, Ni200, Ti and Knthal so I changed the profiles to some thing suitable for my vaping style and I,m digging it. Has anyone tried the DNA 75 I'm thinking of getting the SMY SDNA 75.

Cool, I'm glad you like it. I think it's a great choice. I only put the Ecig file up so people could see what you can do with one (Outline). I suggest people change it to suit their particular vaping style. I tried to cover everything so there would be something on it for everyone. The choices are practically limitless.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Angrygod50]

Cool, I'm glad you like it. I think it's a great choice. I only put the Ecig file up so people could see what you can do with one (Outline). I suggest people change it to suit their particular vaping style. I tried to cover everything so there would be something on it for everyone. The choices are practically limitless.

Cheers,
Steve

Exactly... It's always easier to get a smoother learning curve when you have a template to work off of. I set up 3 SS316L profiles, Ti 1, Ni 200 and two power profiles. I did leave in one SS430 profile in deference to your good work.

I was wondering if a one battery option shows up in Escribe for the DNA 75

 

[cynkrzy]

"With Great Power Comes....." the opportunity to eff it all up!
Dang the learning curve is steep!

So either I'm an idiot or the SMOK SS coil is!

When I first loaded the profiles from the device and started editing them, I made a mistake, and had selected Ti 1 wire even though I named the profile SS316. I Selected that and got a nice warm cloud.

Couldn't leave well enough alone and went back in and noticed the mistake. Corrected it and

Even at 55W and 500f the vape was cold and meh.

So I went back to telling it the wire was Ti 1 and got that nice warm, tasty vape I was wanting. Pretty sweet, though I do need to tone down the pre-heat.

At this point I'm not 100% certain the values I had actually selected on the device were the ones I thought I edited, so I have a bit of work to do tonight.

I need to modify the display so I am certain which of the profiles and wire selections I'm actually using, and then repeat the tests.

However, if anyone has any suggestions for a SMOK tank with the TF-STC2 coils, I would be grateful for them.

 

[Infinite1]

"With Great Power Comes....." the opportunity to eff it all up!
Dang the learning curve is steep!

So either I'm an idiot or the SMOK SS coil is!

When I first loaded the profiles from the device and started editing them, I made a mistake, and had selected Ti 1 wire even though I named the profile SS316. I Selected that and got a nice warm cloud.

Couldn't leave well enough alone and went back in and noticed the mistake. Corrected it and

Even at 55W and 500f the vape was cold and meh.

So I went back to telling it the wire was Ti 1 and got that nice warm, tasty vape I was wanting. Pretty sweet, though I do need to tone down the pre-heat.

At this point I'm not 100% certain the values I had actually selected on the device were the ones I thought I edited, so I have a bit of work to do tonight.

I need to modify the display so I am certain which of the profiles and wire selections I'm actually using, and then repeat the tests.

However, if anyone has any suggestions for a SMOK tank with the TF-STC2 coils, I would be grateful for them.

I'm sure you probably posted this earlier, but what Smok tank are you using? I ask because if it is the TF-8, I believe that you are gonna need to set a pretty high pre-heat. The TF-8 in particular shines at above 65W in power mode, so in TC you are probably looking at a 100W preheat to get things cooking.

The profile for Ti probably did that and got those coils cooking.

Just my initial thoughts without knowing the tank.

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[Wingsfan0310]

If you load my ecig profile on page 7 it's all set up .wires, display, etc. I don't have the Smok tank or those coils so I can't give you first hand information on it. I just looked it up and gave you the recommended settings. The temperature is what I prefer to run TC at. Some were running it at 500-550F.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit. Forget that suggestion about loading the profile. I forgot we were talking about the Triade

 

[SmilinVapor]

Mine showed up Monday had 2 days to play with it and I'm loving it. Thanks again @Wingsfan0310 for the work you did setting up the profiles, made it much easier to navigate (learn) the software. I only use SS316L, Ni200, Ti and Knthal so I changed the profiles to some thing suitable for my vaping style and I,m digging it. Has anyone tried the DNA 75 I'm thinking of getting the SMY SDNA 75.

The SMY DNA 75 is nice, but it is really small. If you are using any of the new 25 mm attys they are too fat and look pretty silly. For that reason I would recommend also considering the VT 75 from Hcigar. It is,still small and pocketable, same chip and function, but a 25 mm atty fits great on it. My 0.02

 

[Angrygod50]

Small is what I'm going for, the Pico is my favorite out and about mod and the SMY for $50.00USD the price is right. None of my RDA's or tanks are above 22mm.

 

[cynkrzy]

I'm sure you probably posted this earlier, but what Smok tank are you using? I ask because if it is the TF-8, I believe that you are gonna need to set a pretty high pre-heat. The TF-8 in particular shines at above 65W in power mode, so in TC you are probably looking at a 100W preheat to get things cooking.

The profile for Ti probably did that and got those coils cooking.

Just my initial thoughts without knowing the tank.

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It's a TFV-4 with the TF-STC2 316 Stainless Coil. It seems as if the mod thinks it's way hotter than it really is.

If you load my ecig profile on page 7 it's all set up .wires, display, etc. I don't have the Smok tank or those coils so I can't give you first hand information on it. I just looked it up and gave you the recommended settings. The temperature is what I prefer to run TC at. Some were running it at 500-550F.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit. Forget that suggestion about loading the profile. I forgot we were talking about the Triade

Thanks Steve, I need to go back and be a bit more scientific about my testing. Was a bit spun up with all the newness and not knowing what the hell I was doing.

Even though they say the Triade is pre-configured and it was up to date on the firmware, I wonder if there aren't some settings for the Mod configuration that aren't spot on yet.

I did see in the Evolv forum, I wasn't the only one having issues with that coil. I found some reading material for later....

The VT133 should arrive today, and I have a feeling with your profile as a starting point I'll have a chance to enjoy and learn while I work on the Triade.

Since I intended to use the SMOK on the VT and my Cleito on the Triade it ought to help me get on the right path with this.

Really appreciate all your effort helping everyone and me in particular!

 

[SteelDriver]

Not sure teddy fits in picture but very nice collection

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[Nevweezy]

Mine showed up Monday had 2 days to play with it and I'm loving it. Thanks again @Wingsfan0310 for the work you did setting up the profiles, made it much easier to navigate (learn) the software. I only use SS316L, Ni200, Ti and Knthal so I changed the profiles to some thing suitable for my vaping style and I,m digging it. Has anyone tried the DNA 75 I'm thinking of getting the SMY SDNA 75.

I just received my smy sdna a week ago from ecig.com I love it so far. DNA board in a smaller package. If you vape high wattage it drains battery's like crazy. Around 40 watts it lasts a decent while for a single 18650 mod. I bought the ss version. I love the looks and size. I don't think you will be disappointed if you end up buying it for 50 bucks. And I think it's a steal at 50.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

"With Great Power Comes....." the opportunity to eff it all up!
Dang the learning curve is steep!

So either I'm an idiot or the SMOK SS coil is!

When I first loaded the profiles from the device and started editing them, I made a mistake, and had selected Ti 1 wire even though I named the profile SS316. I Selected that and got a nice warm cloud.

Couldn't leave well enough alone and went back in and noticed the mistake. Corrected it and

Even at 55W and 500f the vape was cold and meh.

So I went back to telling it the wire was Ti 1 and got that nice warm, tasty vape I was wanting. Pretty sweet, though I do need to tone down the pre-heat.

At this point I'm not 100% certain the values I had actually selected on the device were the ones I thought I edited, so I have a bit of work to do tonight.

I need to modify the display so I am certain which of the profiles and wire selections I'm actually using, and then repeat the tests.

However, if anyone has any suggestions for a SMOK tank with the TF-STC2 coils, I would be grateful for them.

not about to try re-explaining anything steve said, the dude knows his shit, and evolv owes him a tech support check
but I have noticed, quite a bit of inconcisistancy in smok and kanger performance on the coils.
I'm primarily builder, but I do try to "test" as much product as I can get my hand on

 

[cynkrzy]

After my experience with the UWell Crown coils and now this with the SMOK, I think I may be headed to building as some point. I'm hoping for a better result with the VT-133 and Steve's profile.

Just for grins, what wire do y'all think is the best for TC ? I got SS because it seemed it was supposed to be the "Cleanest"

 

[f1r3b1rd]

After my experience with the UWell Crown coils and now this with the SMOK, I think I may be headed to building as some point. I'm hoping for a better result with the VT-133 and Steve's profile.

Just for grins, what wire do y'all think is the best for TC ? I got SS because it seemed it was supposed to be the "Cleanest"

hahah, that's like asking a group of people what the best soda is.

imho, hands down stainless steel.
I prefer to use the claptined 316 wire from advanced vape supply. a lot of people here, including steve prefer the round 43o

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I like SS430 but I like SS better in general. It's very versatile because it can be used in power mode or TC. It also usually has a very clean taste.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Angrygod50]

↑↑↑ Everything he said but I use SS316L.

 

[Angrygod50]

Well guess I'm a DNA fanboy. Just pulled the plug on the SDNA 75
54 bucks shipped I'm in.

 

[cynkrzy]

hahah, that's like asking a group of people what the best soda is.

imho, hands down stainless steel.
I prefer to use the claptined 316 wire from advanced vape supply. a lot of people here, including steve prefer the round 43o

Ya or which oil to run in a motorcycle, subjective at best, but sometimes you can gain a bit of knowledge from the demographics of opinion.

 

[mjag]

Mine showed up Monday had 2 days to play with it and I'm loving it. Thanks again @Wingsfan0310 for the work you did setting up the profiles, made it much easier to navigate (learn) the software. I only use SS316L, Ni200, Ti and Knthal so I changed the profiles to some thing suitable for my vaping style and I,m digging it. Has anyone tried the DNA 75 I'm thinking of getting the SMY SDNA 75.

I really like the smy sdna 75, goes great with the smaller tanks and is a real looker. Battery life is good if you are not running high and it has pass through charging so you can vape while you drive. So far haven't had to bring extra batteries with me but do plug it in when it gets to around 50% when driving.

Great combo with the wotofo sapor but I do have to bring extra juice with me, that little bastard drinks

Less juice consumption with the Crown

If your cool with only 75 watts and all day battery life is not important then the smy is a steal at ecigs price.

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[Angrygod50]

↑↑ I vape about 98% TC so I'm good with 40 - 50 watts the most I use on non TC is 80W mostly 60W so I'm good to go. All my single battery mods are 75W
and I got no problem carrying a spare battery. I like the smaller mods for out and about.

EDIT: Now I have 14 mods and only one set of lungs. Gotta love a hobby..LOL

 

[cynkrzy]

Have had a few moments to explore the evolv forum and read something that makes me wonder if the TCR curve for SS316 that came with the Triade is perhaps incorrect ? Perhaps if I compare Steve's profile for the VT133 I'll find a difference that accounts for the less than satisfactory performance with SS316 and the Triade ???

 

[Wingsfan0310]

It could be the Smok coil. I know for instance Crown coils are SS316 but have Ni200 legs so SS316's TCR doesn't work well with them. Most people use SS304 TCR with pretty good results.

That's one of the reasons I only build my own so I can control/know what I'm using.

I would try the SS304 setting on your Triade and see if that helps. Good luck.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Jim_MDP]

Well guess I'm a DNA fanboy. Just pulled the plug on the SDNA 75
54 bucks shipped I'm in.

Had a slew of snippets and your DNA75 questions quoted because I have both the VT75 and a couple of SDNAs.
No need now I see.

I'm used to both my 100TCs etc. (dual cell) and my VTC and Pico singles etc, so It's second nature to choose the most appropriate depending on build/wattage.
In other words... I don't have an issue with the DNA75's battery life.
Of course the past couple weeks... the duals used are all VT133s.
JoyeTech haz a sad.

And I think it's a steal at 50.

That it is... amazingly so.

And now the VT75 Nanos are starting to arrive.
Doubt we'll see a comparable sale price (c'mon Ecig) but I'll be watching.

 

[Elites]

It's a TFV-4 with the TF-STC2 316 Stainless Coil. It seems as if the mod thinks it's way hotter than it really is.




Thanks Steve, I need to go back and be a bit more scientific about my testing. Was a bit spun up with all the newness and not knowing what the hell I was doing.
Really appreciate all your effort helping everyone and me in particular!

I was same like you

But after 2 hours of reading about DNA200 I am good now

 

[Elites]

I really like the smy sdna 75, goes great with the smaller tanks and is a real looker. Battery life is good if you are not running high and it has pass through charging so you can vape while you drive. So far haven't had to bring extra batteries with me but do plug it in when it gets to around 50% when driving.

Great combo with the wotofo sapor but I do have to bring extra juice with me, that little bastard drinks

Less juice consumption with the Crown

If your cool with only 75 watts and all day battery life is not important then the smy is a steal at ecigs price.

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After looking this SMY SDNA75 I GOT 2 thought
1 -


and

2-


Now I need to buy this too (seems so pretty)

 

[Deucesjack]

Had a slew of snippets and your DNA75 questions quoted because I have both the VT75 and a couple of SDNAs.
No need now I see.

I'm used to both my 100TCs etc. (dual cell) and my VTC and Pico singles etc, so It's second nature to choose the most appropriate depending on build/wattage.
In other words... I don't have an issue with the DNA75's battery life.
Of course the past couple weeks... the duals used are all VT133s.
JoyeTech haz a sad.



That it is... amazingly so.

And now the VT75 Nanos are starting to arrive.
Doubt we'll see a comparable sale price (c'mon Ecig) but I'll be watching.

I don't know about that. Ecig.com is usually late to the game in the new mods department but when they do throw their hat in the ring they are more often than not much cheaper than everyone else.

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[SteelDriver]

Painted one myself no need to wait for in Stock lol

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[BoostAddict]

Painted one myself no need to wait for in Stock lol

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Looks great! Nice job

 

[Elites]

TODAY was my good day got vape mail, Stout and these wire 100% California Base company, I bought before and only used in POWER, their ebay listing says SS316L but roll doesn't any advice please Thanks



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[Wingsfan0310]

TODAY was my good day got vape mail, Stout and these wire 100% California Base company, I bought before and only used in POWER, their ebay listing says SS316L but roll doesn't any advice please Thanks

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Temco only carries 316L, they don't carry plain 316. Just a heads up I use to buy my Kanthal directly from them. They also carry 316L, Ni200 and Ti01.Fast shipping as well. I'd always prefer to buy direct.
http://www.temcoindustrial.com/shop/wire-cable-accessories/non-resistance-wire.html

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Elites]

Yes I bought directly from their ebay store Tuesday and today received Their shipping is amazing

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[Elites]

Looks great! Nice job

@SteelDriver This is excellent paint job and seems beautiful color, Congratulations for successful accomplishment of this project. Seems you are another genius like me

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[cynkrzy]

It could be the Smok coil. I know for instance Crown coils are SS316 but have Ni200 legs so SS316's TCR doesn't work well with them. Most people use SS304 TCR with pretty good results.

That's one of the reasons I only build my own so I can control/know what I'm using.

I would try the SS304 setting on your Triade and see if that helps. Good luck.

Cheers,
Steve

You are correct on all accounts. Swapped it out for my Aspire Clieto, started with SS316 and it wasn't great, used the SS304 and @ 55W & 500f it's lovely.

VT-133 just arrived, batteries charging. Will load it up with your profile after supper!

 

[Elites]

Looks great! Nice job

@SteelDriver Brother which paint you use or is that this plasti dip thanks for sharing with us

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[cynkrzy]

@Wingsfan0310 - It has arrived and thanks to your profile and suggestions the SMOK has provided a very pleasant first experience. Graphics in the profile are "Da Bomb". I've still a whole lot to learn, but now I don't feel any pressure, and I'll always have a handy stress reliever while I do.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

@Wingsfan0310 - It has arrived and thanks to your profile and suggestions the SMOK has provided a very pleasant first experience. Graphics in the profile are "Da Bomb". I've still a whole lot to learn, but now I don't feel any pressure, and I'll always have a handy stress reliever while I do.

Nice! I'm glad you found the file helpful and are enjoying your mod!

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Elites]

Any where good deal for VT133 let me know please I need to buy for a friend thanks

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[Deucesjack]

Any where good deal for VT133 let me know please I need to buy for a friend thanks

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Lol, yeah we all have bought a few them for "friends". Lmao.

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[SirRichardRear]

Anyone know how often ecig.com restocks? If they keep this deal open I might grab another one when they have stock or maybe a dx200

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[Wingsfan0310]

Any where good deal for VT133 let me know please I need to buy for a friend thanks

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Probably the best deal at the moment is VapeNW that has them for $99.99 shipped (Silver and Black) or $109.99 for the all Black. Personally, if you can wait, I'd wait to see if Ecig.com gets them back in stock. Most of us were able to use a 10% off code and get them for ~$79.99 shipped

Cheers,
Steve

PS Use Vapecrawler.com to search to see if you can fund a better deal. I use that site to check before buying.

 

[Elites]

Lol, yeah we all have bought a few them for "friends". Lmao.

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Hi Buddy, how are you? I can PM you my address


I am trying to help him to quit that smoking habit.

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[Elites]

Probably the best deal at the moment is VapeNW that has them for $99.99 shipped (Silver and Black) or $109.99 for the all Black. Personally, if you can wait, I'd wait to see if Ecig.com gets them back in stock. Most of us were able to use a 10% off code and get them for ~$79.99 shipped

Cheers,
Steve

PS Use Vapecrawler.com to search to see if you can fund a better deal. I use that site to check before buying.

You are THE MAN, this is another reason I love you (of course as my buddy)

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[deviantplatypus]

The SMY DNA 75 is nice, but it is really small. If you are using any of the new 25 mm attys they are too fat and look pretty silly. For that reason I would recommend also considering the VT 75 from Hcigar. It is,still small and pocketable, same chip and function, but a 25 mm atty fits great on it. My 0.02

That's exactly my own thinking. It's hard to resist that SDNA 75 but I don't think I have enough 22mm tanks in rotation for that little guy. The VT75 nano might be enticing if the pricing's right since it'll fit a 24.

With all that said, watch me order the SDNA 75 tomorrow morning. No self control...

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