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I don't think I've seen any kids mowing a lawn in about 10 years....sad but true.
 

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Perhaps it is because they are all making six-figure incomes as computer hackers. It is only us old pharts who do manual labor for pennies.
 

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Kids actually work to earn money?
yeah right...
I grew up working every weekend, then berries and beans all summer, then a newspaper route seven days a week... but we were taught to have a work ethic, not this socialistic demand that everything be handed to us on a silver platter because the world owes us something. :mad:
 

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I grew up working every weekend, then berries and beans all summer, then a newspaper route seven days a week... but we were taught to have a work ethic, not this socialistic demand that everything be handed to us on a silver platter because the world owes us something. :mad:
Ahh the poorer kids just learned how to be like the more affluent kids.
Parents were also well programmed by the advertising media, etc.

Same thing here on working to earn money while young.
Soime Kids also used to work to pay their way thru college, not depend on loans or mom and pop.

overall we have become a lazy spoiled society that wants every thing right now.
 

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we have become a lazy spoiled society that wants every thing right now
And on whom do we place the blame for this? Ourselves for giving our children everything we dd not get? I did not do that, but I know many who did. Who/what else caused the downfall of the American work ethic?
 

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And on whom do we place the blame for this? Ourselves for giving our children everything we dd not get? I did not do that, but I know many who did. Who/what else caused the downfall of the American work ethic?
Ohh the work ethics and loyalty to an employer died for several reasons.
One was the increase in re-organizations, Reductions in force, reduction in benefits, offshoring, etc.
Loyalty works both ways with me.
You cannot be continually jacking around your employees and expect them to remain loyal to you.
I still had to do a good job or find another job.
Just the way I roll.
 

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Ohh the work ethics and loyalty to an employer died for several reasons.
One was the increase in re-organizations, Reductions in force, reduction in benefits, offshoring, etc.
Loyalty works both ways with me.
You cannot be continually jacking around your employees and expect them to remain loyal to you.
I still had to do a good job or find another job.
Just the way I roll.
Perzactly why Phillip is looking for a new job. The one he has now fucks him over every chance they get. Even worse, he busts his ass and won't get a pay raise unless every dingleberry in the plant gets a raise.
 

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I grew up working every weekend, then berries and beans all summer, then a newspaper route seven days a week... but we were taught to have a work ethic, not this socialistic demand that everything be handed to us on a silver platter because the world owes us something. :mad:
I think I've mentioned in the past what was taught to me when I was old enough to mop floors in my father's restaurants, etc....then it was digging ditches with a shovel, then run heavy equipment, then build commercial buildings, yep, the old man taught me the value of a dollar early, and that was about what he paid me mopping the floors when I started at about 8 yrs old, a dollar.... :)
 

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the work ethics and loyalty to an employer died for several reasons
While I agree that benefits and raises suffered in most jobs, that does not account for a person's desire to pay his own way in life. Just because you are not getting great benefits, which might make you mad at that particular employer, it does not make you suddenly desire to have someone else pay your way through life. I am 70 years old, have been 100% disabled for 20 years now, and I still do my own labor without expecting any freebies from anyone. I know people with far less pains than me who are riding the government handout bandwagon and screwing the system for every penny they can steal: I will not do that. I earn what I get.
 

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Par Pharmaceutical, Inc. Issues Voluntary Nationwide Recall of One Lot of Mycophenolate Mofetil for Injection, USP Due to the Presence of a Glass Fragment Observed in One Vial of Reconstituted Product

Endo International plc, announced today that one of its operating companies, Par Pharmaceutical, Inc., is voluntarily recalling one lot of Mycophenolate Mofetil for Injection, USP to the hospital and retail pharmacy level. One vial of product was observed containing a glass fragment after reconstitution.

Endo International plc is an Irish–tax registered generics and specialty branded pharmaceutical company that generated over 93% of 2017 sales from the U.S. healthcare system.
 

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While I agree that benefits and raises suffered in most jobs, that does not account for a person's desire to pay his own way in life. Just because you are not getting great benefits, which might make you mad at that particular employer, it does not make you suddenly desire to have someone else pay your way through life. I am 70 years old, have been 100% disabled for 20 years now, and I still do my own labor without expecting any freebies from anyone. I know people with far less pains than me who are riding the government handout bandwagon and screwing the system for every penny they can steal: I will not do that. I earn what I get.
AND....this is the UNITED STATES, you don't have to work for anyone but yourself if you so choose. Then the ball is in our court....DO or DIE.
 

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Vivimed Life Sciences Pvt Ltd Issues Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Losartan Potassium 25 mg, 50 mg and 100 mg Tablets, USP Due to the Detection of Trace Amounts of N-Nitroso-N-methyl-4-aminobutyric acid (NMBA) Impurity

Vivimed Life Sciences Pvt Ltd (Vivimed) is recalling 19 lots of Losartan Potassium Tablets USP 25 mg, 50 mg, and 100 mg to consumer level. Due to the detection of an impurity – N-Nitroso-N-methyl-4-aminobutyric acid (NMBA) – that is above the US Food & Drug Administration’s interim acceptable exposure limit of 9.82 ppm. Based on the available information, the risk of developing cancer in a few patients following long-term use of the product containing high levels of the impurity NMBA cannot be ruled out.

Vivimed Life Sciences Private Limited manufactures pharmaceutical products. The company was incorporated in 2017 and is based in Hyderabad, India.
 

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^---- Lunch Break at Vivimed Life----^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

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While I agree that benefits and raises suffered in most jobs, that does not account for a person's desire to pay his own way in life. Just because you are not getting great benefits, which might make you mad at that particular employer, it does not make you suddenly desire to have someone else pay your way through life. I am 70 years old, have been 100% disabled for 20 years now, and I still do my own labor without expecting any freebies from anyone. I know people with far less pains than me who are riding the government handout bandwagon and screwing the system for every penny they can steal: I will not do that. I earn what I get.
The preaching of prosperity from the pulpits did not help anything.
the movement to make money thru investments vs work did not help either.
And yes parenting, TV commercials and vidiot shows as well.
McDonalds spawned the "You Deserve" thought process, and it spread from there.

to me you deserve a chance, nothing else.
You deserve what you earn.

I never got released from lifting 1 gallon of milk max over 20 years ago.
Pain has been my constant companion for a couple of decades now.
Never went for disability though...
was 80% chair bound for about 10 years and worked from home testing and helping develop software. Then Verizon offshored my job to India...
 
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Was decent here again today, low 80's I believe (felt like it anyway)....didn't check temps.

Anyone have any bizzare weather today?
 

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I never got released from lifting 1 gallon of milk max over 20 years ago
Boy, I hear ya there, Crom.
My doc says I should never lift more than 10 pounds (OK, 15 max). ;) But, here on the farm, things do not come in 10 pound packages. A bag of wheat weighs 60 pounds, and yes, I lift one every couple days. A bag of cat food is 38 pounds. etc., etc. This is why I have to wear a back brace... When I have to reach into the refrigerator to get that one gallon milk jug out, I have to use both arms because I cannot lift that high with one arm (shoulders can't take it).
But look at both of us... we lift and build and fix and mow and... why the fuck are all those healthy young people demanding that WE pay their way in life?
 
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Boy, I hear ya there, Crom.
My doc says I should never left more than 10 pounds (OK, 15 max). ;) But, here on the farm, things do not come in 10 pound packages. A bag of wheat weighs 60 pounds, and yes, I lift on every couple days. A bag of cat food is 38 pounds. etc., etc. This is why I have to wear a back brace... When I have to reach into the refrigerator to get that one gallon milk jug out, I have to use both arms because I cannot lift that high with one arm (shoulders can't take it).
But look at both of us... we lift and build and fix and mow and... why the fuck are all those healthy young people demanding that WE pay their way in life?
Pay their way? Not from me. I am done with that.
I MAY live long enough to draw out as much SS as I paid in not counting interest on it.
I pay for Medicare Part B and supplemental Parts G and D. Less than half the cost of poorer insurance I could get on the private market.
We paid zero income taxes for the past 2 years.
And have a homestead exemption for elderly on our property taxes so they are reasonable.
And have no mortgage or car payments.
of course I pay sales taxes, etc.
 

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Sure. Partly cloudy, warm, light breeze... totally bizarro... and I worked my ass off OUTSIDE today (which caused me to bleed some more). o_O
Wrastling with the concertina wire again.....:teehee:
 

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We paid zero income taxes for the past 2 years.
And have a homestead exemption for elderly on our property taxes so they are reasonable.
And have no mortgage or car payments.
of course I pay sales taxes, etc.
I'm in the same situation except South Dakota has no elderly exemption on property taxes, so I still have to fork over $600/year.
 

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Not an exemption, well yes for 50K I think it is of value. You pay taxes on the rest.
Mine is assessed at considerably less than that, but if anyone wants to buy it, I'll ask 3x that much. :eek:

Well, my tired old ass is really aching tonight, so I'm gonna crash. Is this your third night in a row to turn out the lights? :)
 

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Mine is assessed at considerably less than that, but if anyone wants to buy it, I'll ask 3x that much. :eek:

Well, my tired old ass is really aching tonight, so I'm gonna crash. Is this your third night in a row to turn out the lights? :)
I think my assessed value is 75K?
You have high property taxes considering....
Must not have a state income tax?
 

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Shit, property tax for our three acres of Ag zoned land in Hawaii County was only $200 for the whole year

Paid about $1,800 for half the land in Alaska
 

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I think my assessed value is 75K?
You have high property taxes considering....
Must not have a state income tax?
No state income tax but we have 6.5% sales tax. My land here is a buck ninety eight. The assessed value is about $38k because of all the buildings. If this property and the same buildings were in east Texas, it would sell for $300k. I guess everything depends on where you are and what the demand is (like who the hell is stupid enough to want to buy in the middle of fucking nowhere South Dakota? Oh....me.) :)
 

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FDA Adds Boxed Warning for Risk of Serious Injuries Caused by Sleepwalking with Certain Prescription Insomnia Medicines

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is advising that rare but serious injuries have happened with certain common prescription insomnia medicines because of sleep behaviors, including sleepwalking, sleep driving, and engaging in other activities while not fully awake. These complex sleep behaviors have also resulted in deaths. These behaviors appear to be more common with eszopiclone (Lunesta), zaleplon (Sonata), and zolpidem (Ambien, Ambien CR, Edluar, Intermezzo, Zolpimist) than other prescription medicines used for sleep.
 

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On the Ambien and sleepwalking.
Seems to cause that in people with certain mental disorders moreso than in those without those disorders.
 

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I think that the iron in my blood has become magnetized?
I seem to wake up every day with my head pointing north!
 

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