I don't think it's the insulator, is it possible that the threads are to big. I have been running the orchid/colonial with no problem. I take off the tank and now it won't go back on. It was my favorite mod too
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Problem solved, I think it's just the threads are messed up. Thanks for the help.
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If it's the threads on the orchid, you can pick up a $6 replacement base from Fasttech.
I have made a ody/penny style orchid out of the super long chimney and a drip tip with regular or aftermarket cap. just make sure your chimney top and bottom are extremely tight. The hardest part was finding a drip tip that went over the long top chimney and made a seal for the tank. I think I used a few O-rings too. What all tanks are compatible with kayfun/ orchid threads. So far I have found of course all kayfun, orchid, parts but I also found that most of my 22mm addys had the same theads such as the aqua v2 tank/clear tank. Also the chimney section that acts as the juice control for the aqua v1 will fit the orchid base. I am attempting to make a 22mm orchid hybrid (with juice control out of parts that I have acquired over the years. I prefer singe coil but since the aqua v1 chimney fits so well and takes driptips its going to be hard to get away from. I like a more airy draw like the orchid but hate making duel coils. Reason being they suck power and they just take more time to create and maintain. My goal in all of my work is to make a addy that is the shortest length possible that has the juice control ability. For me its a must for pocket security. Yes I have a rose v2 clone and stumpy kit, aqua v2 clone and others but something missing form each and plus I just am having fun legoing parts together. One other tank section that I have noticed that as the same threads is the rose v2 at the base and cap. the clear widow connection is different threading.
When I get home I will. Does anyone have any experience with running a single coil in the orchid? Do you just block one air hole or something different?
I think I may have found the sweet spot for the juice channels on the JFC. I now get the flavor saturation I want without having to open it very far. I'm using this at the moment with JFC opened about 1.5mm and the vapor is consistently very moist and dense, even when chain vaping.
The channels were ground with a 30 degree conical diamond bit on a Dremel, with some help from two small cylindrical and spherical bits. This time went faster and easier than the first. I opened the bottom of the channels a little to about 1.5mm deep. At the top they are 2.5mm deep and just under 4mm wide.
Still yet to have a single gurgle.
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Here are the links to the other two posts on wide chimney with JFC modification:
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/orchid-modification-thread.20819/page-22#post-309387
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/orchid-modification-thread.20819/page-22#post-312309
That's awesome!
By conical bit, what sort do you mean? I have diamond ones and the usual pinkish ones too for the rotory tool.
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I also have a titanium nitride coated step/speed bit set for the big drill, maybe that would be useful?
If you have the funds check out the silver play base. Its much better at wicking. What top cap do you have on that beast westpole?
When I get home I will. Does anyone have any experience with running a single coil in the orchid? Do you just block one air hole or something different?
The V2 finally showed up, really like the big bore chimney direction orchids are going. Didn't lose any flavor but picked up some cloudage. Used the drilled out base that I've been using for a while now so it is a good comparison. Didn't touch the build just swapped the new chimney and top cap out, filled and vaped.
Juice channels were already opened up a bit but I may just go chuck norris on that bitch like TheWestPole did and get even more juice flowing.
The included DT that came with it is a little more open than most of them and I dont know if it's the finned top cap or more air cooling things down but the DT doesn't even get warm so it being so close to the top cap is not a bad thing and actually works well.
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It maybe a bit hard to keep 26 awg twisted over .5. You may want to try 28 awg or even 30 awg twisted. Also you can use steam-engine calculator to predict around what it'll be. I'd link it for you but I'm at work right now, but if you Google it, it'll pop up @MirkoGradski
Ok cool ill check it out
hey guys, i know i havent been in here in a while, reason being, i have been trying to expand my tank horizons. been trying a bunch of em, foggers roses lemos, which i had a while ago and traded and got another one in a trade, subtanks...and today, i recieved my goblin. looks like im going to be putting my orchid projects on the backburner, and sell or trade my other tanks. this goblin, to me is fantastic. its everything i want my superorchid to be with no work, well, besides trying to build on the damn thing, took me a good two hours to decipher it. wicked it right on the first time thoug. wasnt expecting that. this is going to be my daily driver for sure. honestly though, my orchids are going to be the only tanks i keep besides the goblin. now onto the silverplay and billow. just gotta find someone to trade with!
i have a 4.4Which Foggers did you get?
Pm me what you've got. I've got a goblin now that I'm on the fence about.hey guys, i know i havent been in here in a while, reason being, i have been trying to expand my tank horizons. been trying a bunch of em, foggers roses lemos, which i had a while ago and traded and got another one in a trade, subtanks...and today, i recieved my goblin. looks like im going to be putting my orchid projects on the backburner, and sell or trade my other tanks. this goblin, to me is fantastic. its everything i want my superorchid to be with no work, well, besides trying to build on the damn thing, took me a good two hours to decipher it. wicked it right on the first time thoug. wasnt expecting that. this is going to be my daily driver for sure. honestly though, my orchids are going to be the only tanks i keep besides the goblin. now onto the silverplay and billow. just gotta find someone to trade with!
i have a 4.4
its....meh. i might give it a little more of a chance, see if there is anything i can do to it to make it better. got any suggestions?No joy with that one?
its....meh. i might give it a little more of a chance, see if there is anything i can do to it to make it better. got any suggestions?
i was actually considering buying one of those rather than just a base. how big is the airflow holes on that one?For sale, new. Just received one of these Minis but won't be using it because of the wide chimneys I already made. $14 shipped first class. PM me if you are interested.
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i was actually considering buying one of those rather than just a base. how big is the airflow holes on that one?
no worries im making a fast tech order tonight or tomorrow so thats what i meant.The air holes are standard V3/4 size. Sorry, the one I posted got snatched up already.
no worries im making a fast tech order tonight or tomorrow so thats what i meant.
i only ask about airflow size because ive seen a lot of different sizes coming from clones. mine are about 2.3mm, ive seen some at 2.5mm and 2mm. these look like 2mm
i have a 4.4
yeah im sure the coating is titanium. ony reason you would be trashing diamond bits. and probobly the only part of it that would justify the cost. some of the reason i go for clones is they usually are better due to fixed issues. unfortunatly mine is an authentic as well. only got it because i use cinnamon red hot flavoring in my ADV and i need a glass tank. my orchid with the kayfun rings and glass just didnt have enough juice flow past the chimnet because of high vg. so i figured id give the goblin a try, and all i can say is wow. i love my lemo drop too, but its really single coil. duals are doable if you set it up like a rose v2, but i would have to use 28 or 30 gauge and i like using 26 24 or 22 in my tanks. i only use 28 and 30 for my single coil rdasUgh, I have a 4.4 too (authentic). Seriously, seriously regret my purchase. I am still trying to drill out the channels and it is not going well. You have to drill the air holes too. For the amount of money it cost, it is a major pain in the.... and a LOT of work. It is not going well and it probably doesn't help that I got the rainbow version. I think neochrome is a form of titanium plating? An o-ring under the chimney helps with the leaking problem. But my chimney seems to have WELDED itself together, making that tiny thing even harder to wick. WTF is this thing made of?! My diamond-coated grinder is spinning and I'm using drill lubricant on it and I'm barely scratching the darn thing! Using a brand new diamond bit too...
I was looking for a tank to match my rainbow hammer and the rainbow Sat22 didn't exist yet. I wish I had known how horrid this thing is. Completely unusable out of the box, dry hits or leaking and always 1/2 mm away from the coil shorting out on the chimney.To think I paid over $30 for this thing to do so much machining on it. Serves me right for buying authentic, right? But there was no rainbow clone that I could find. Based on the (obviously paid for) reviews, I thought the fogger 4.4 was better than the kayfun/taifun which were the only other rainbow tanks I could find at the time. If I hadn't paid so much for it, I would have taken the copper screw out and thrown the rest in the garbage can where it belongs! The screw is worth more than the entire rest of this POS!
Okay today I was tinking around and after being inspired by westpole, I created the Aquaplaychid or aquachid. Its a aqua v2 tank, aqua v1 chimney, carto silicone sleeve cut to fit around chimney where tank meets stem and a black band I found (band not really necessary). This mod gives me full juice control without really modifying anything, just using different pieces of addys to make a juice/ air control tank in a relatively small and yet still holding just over 3.4mls of juice ruffly. IMO juice control is everything in a tank. Its what keeps it from leaking in a pocket and also lets you hit those high watts if its a performance addy. It also lets the user have a overall better control over the complete device. blah blah blah here it is guys my Aquaplaychid....names just wrong lolView attachment 15394
Ugh, I have a 4.4 too (authentic). Seriously, seriously regret my purchase. I am still trying to drill out the channels and it is not going well. You have to drill the air holes too. For the amount of money it cost, it is a major pain in the.... and a LOT of work. It is not going well and it probably doesn't help that I got the rainbow version. I think neochrome is a form of titanium plating? An o-ring under the chimney helps with the leaking problem. But my chimney seems to have WELDED itself together, making that tiny thing even harder to wick. WTF is this thing made of?! My diamond-coated grinder is spinning and I'm using drill lubricant on it and I'm barely scratching the darn thing! Using a brand new diamond bit too...
I was looking for a tank to match my rainbow hammer and the rainbow Sat22 didn't exist yet. I wish I had known how horrid this thing is. Completely unusable out of the box, dry hits or leaking and always 1/2 mm away from the coil shorting out on the chimney.To think I paid over $30 for this thing to do so much machining on it. Serves me right for buying authentic, right? But there was no rainbow clone that I could find. Based on the (obviously paid for) reviews, I thought the fogger 4.4 was better than the kayfun/taifun which were the only other rainbow tanks I could find at the time. If I hadn't paid so much for it, I would have taken the copper screw out and thrown the rest in the garbage can where it belongs! The screw is worth more than the entire rest of this POS!
I sorta went quiet here as most of my forum and DIY time has been spent mixing new juices. But also because I pretty much found my Orchid Nirvana a couple months ago when I switched all of my orchids (mostly v4s) to that full PC Kayfun tank.I've been spending all my "forum time" reading this thread for a few days now. Wait, it must have been a week or so, since I got my Tobeco V4 in the mail yesterday and I ordered it when I was reading page 4 or 5ish. Anyway, this is my favorite thread. Ever.
@TheWestPole , if I were to run into you in public... I would buy you drinks and give you bottles of juice. After lots of that I'd drive your drunk nicotined-out ass to my house to crash (assuming, of course, you found yourself randomly in my city with no place to stay). Then I'd cook you breakfast the next morning. Serious.
Fair warning, there'd be no spooning or cuddling but there would however be LOTS of questions about Orchid mods.
Now that I've got my vape-crush on TheWestPole out of the way... here's my short Orchid story thus far. For reference I've been a RDA-only guy for about 5 months now save a few days with an Atlantis.
Got the V4 clone on Monday. Drilled it out to 7/64" before I even rinsed it. I have been using MutationX RDA's pretty exclusively for months now so I knew I'd want the extra airflow. Built it w 2mm 26ga duals, 10 wraps at 0.52ish ohms. Wicked it with Shiseido JC. Tight cotton with the tails ever so slightly in the channels. Mixed some 70VG juice up. Vaped it. Holy crap, this is good. Got some dry hits every 4 or 6 draws, especially after chain vaping on a fresh battery in a mech mod. Remembered the KF trick of cracking open the top to get more juice into the wicks and that was a decent workaround for the time being.
Got up Tuesday morning to go to work and I see that this thing really does drink juice! Even when I'm not vaping it! It's not leaking out the airholes, it's not flooded, WTF? Then I take it off the mod and realize I never bothered to check the fill hole screw because I top-filled the first tank-full. Tightened the fill screw and went to work. On my lunch break I realize it's still leaking out the fill hole. Whatever, I feel like I read here that a second o-ring is a good thing. Did that tonight. Fill hole seems to have stopped leaking. Yay.
Couldn't refill the stock SS/PC/SS tank assembly very well and couldn't see what was going on. Had this POS KF3.1 sitting around collecting dust and grabbed the full PC tank out of it. Emptied the tank tonight, rewicked with less tails in the channels, more or less sitting on top of the channels now. Also used less cotton through the coils. Filling the full PC tank was easier with the extra clearance but I'm still getting some dry hits. I now realize that I should have probably left the chimney loose by a few threads. Or made a long wide bore chimney/drip tip/JFC. Cause that would be the F'ing best.
Thanks so much to everyone that has contributed to this thread. I'll be using a portion of my tax return to build a decent little FT order consisting of all orchid parts. In the meantime I'll work toward getting my modest setup to wick 80VG juice as fast as I can vape it. Cheers!
@TheWestPole , I really want one of those wide bore chimney/drip tip/JFC setups. Like, really want. The only question left is... do you wanna be the big spoon, or the little spoon?
I'm in the same spot you are. My tank/build is perfect for what I want. Although that JFC has got me very intrigued, its kinda on the waiting list lolI sorta went quiet here as most of my forum and DIY time has been spent mixing new juices. But also because I pretty much found my Orchid Nirvana a couple months ago when I switched all of my orchids (mostly v4s) to that full PC Kayfun tank.
Everything fills flawlessly now, no gaps, no backwash, nothing. I realized that after I got to the point that I was able to just pop out a screw, jet in a new tankful, and get back to Vaping, I'm basically done. The airflow is perfect for me, the juice flow is well tuned for my juices, and I got wicking down many many pages ago, so all I've really got left to tinker with is the juice. Well, and the coils I guess, but twisted 28 and 30 builds always seem to do the trick for me.
But I hear ya on this thread. If it weren't for this minicommunity, I'm sure I'd STILL be searching for that device sweet spot, and wouldn't have nearly as much juice-cookin time. I mean, I'd be happy either way I'm sure, as tinkering is itself tremendous fun. But I wouldn't be Vaping.... (checks bottles) cheesecake custard waffles, blueberry walnut pralines and milk, or pistachio/almond caramel eggnog. So, you know, there's that.
But hey, I wanna throw in my thanks as well. I've done what I can to help out, but I've taken out far more than I've given, I've no doubt. Thanks Westy, and all the resty