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Hehehehe. :D Welcome @KeyserSoze. Thanks for your props to everyone who has contributed to the thread. Flattery will get you... somewhere.

Seems like you're pretty much on top of your Orchid issues. You were smart to read first and are well ahead of where I started. If you're satisfied with the drilled-out airflow and have settled on 80% VG, yes, opening the juice channels is next. You've probably already seen a lot of examples of bigger ones, including Silverplay, Goblin, etc.

If you want to experiment with JFC without making a custom chimney, there are possibilities. The main thing is to get around disassembling every time you want to change the chimney setting. I haven't done this, but you could rig up a little tool that allows you to adjust the stock chimney from the outside with the atty assembled. An expandable plastic wall anchor/screw might just do the trick. Anyway that's the idea. Pop off the drip tip, insert the anchor and tighten the screw, then turn the anchor to screw or unscrew the chimney.

I might play with this idea myself, that is, making a proper tool that does it fast and easy. I'm really into my big chimneys and I generally like SS drip tips so it's no sacrifice. But sometimes it's nice to change to whatever standard DT you may want, in which case a stock setup with an adjustment tool would do nicely.


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BTW, I never use o-rings on the fill screw. Only had one that leaked, just a little, and that was fixable by cleaning out a rough edge in the counter bore.

Cheers!
Genius. I have this habit of just looking around in a 6 ft radius for a solution to whatever problem I'm having at that moment (which seems to happen A LOT now that I think about it). When I reassembled last night I put the chimney down to the deck but didn't really snug it down. When I got a dry hit I pulled off the DT then did my look around thing. Rubber band over the end of a ball point pin? Not quite enough grip. I've got all kinds of wall anchors here at work though, throwing a few in the bag. Might hit up the hardware store for a small rubber cone. I'm thinking the hard plastic anchor might not grip well enough but it sure is easy enough to try it! Thanks for the tip. Get it?

Still want the big chimney/DT though. Gonna look back through my pages of cliffnotes and links from this thread for a long regular diameter chimney that'll drop in. That would be a nice interim solution. I'm not crazy about the idea of glue inside my atty. I know there are safe solutions but I'm going to try to avoid it. I'm hoping FT and it's blinding pace of new products will offer the wide bore chimney in a long version at some point. I don't want to go to a short tank (already realized why expanding the capacity is such an issue) but maybe they'll offer one for an extended tank that I can mod into a regular tank. Finger are crossed.

Yeah I try to actually read a thread before replying unless it's one of those monsters with hundreds of pages. Lots of great posts in this thread.

Something I noticed last night, I'm only getting bubbles from one juice channel and occasionally one other. Never from the other two. One coil running hotter than the other maybe? I did have a screw loosen on the first run. Snugged them down pretty good the 2nd time around and the ohm reading hasn't jumped. They were firing in near unison before I assembled. Dunno. Going to tackle that after I get the chimney up a little.
 

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I sorta went quiet here as most of my forum and DIY time has been spent mixing new juices. But also because I pretty much found my Orchid Nirvana a couple months ago when I switched all of my orchids (mostly v4s) to that full PC Kayfun tank.

Everything fills flawlessly now, no gaps, no backwash, nothing. I realized that after I got to the point that I was able to just pop out a screw, jet in a new tankful, and get back to Vaping, I'm basically done. The airflow is perfect for me, the juice flow is well tuned for my juices, and I got wicking down many many pages ago, so all I've really got left to tinker with is the juice. Well, and the coils I guess, but twisted 28 and 30 builds always seem to do the trick for me.

But I hear ya on this thread. If it weren't for this minicommunity, I'm sure I'd STILL be searching for that device sweet spot, and wouldn't have nearly as much juice-cookin time. I mean, I'd be happy either way I'm sure, as tinkering is itself tremendous fun. But I wouldn't be Vaping.... (checks bottles) cheesecake custard waffles, blueberry walnut pralines and milk, or pistachio/almond caramel eggnog. So, you know, there's that.

But hey, I wanna throw in my thanks as well. I've done what I can to help out, but I've taken out far more than I've given, I've no doubt. Thanks Westy, and all the resty :)
Agreed. I've been spending a lot more time mixing juice than I have building and tinkering lately. It was wonderful to fast forward through weeks of trial and error by just reading a thread.

Just need a few more orchids to try all this juice through! I love my drippers for testing the initial few versions of recipes but as soon as I'm ready to make more than 5ml of a mix, into the Orchid it shall go. Need to sell off this Atlantis so I can justify more Orchids.
 

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I sorta went quiet here as most of my forum and DIY time has been spent mixing new juices. But also because I pretty much found my Orchid Nirvana a couple months ago when I switched all of my orchids (mostly v4s) to that full PC Kayfun tank.

Everything fills flawlessly now, no gaps, no backwash, nothing. I realized that after I got to the point that I was able to just pop out a screw, jet in a new tankful, and get back to Vaping, I'm basically done. The airflow is perfect for me, the juice flow is well tuned for my juices, and I got wicking down many many pages ago, so all I've really got left to tinker with is the juice. Well, and the coils I guess, but twisted 28 and 30 builds always seem to do the trick for me.

But I hear ya on this thread. If it weren't for this minicommunity, I'm sure I'd STILL be searching for that device sweet spot, and wouldn't have nearly as much juice-cookin time. I mean, I'd be happy either way I'm sure, as tinkering is itself tremendous fun. But I wouldn't be Vaping.... (checks bottles) cheesecake custard waffles, blueberry walnut pralines and milk, or pistachio/almond caramel eggnog. So, you know, there's that.

But hey, I wanna throw in my thanks as well. I've done what I can to help out, but I've taken out far more than I've given, I've no doubt. Thanks Westy, and all the resty :)

Hey, Doc. Thanks for this. Good to hear from you again.

It's great that you've got the hardware down and have moved on to tastier pursuits. :)

For my notes, what VG/PG ratio do you use? I want to come up with a chart for what range works best with stock juice channels and air holes, and how those scale upward with thicker juice. This is one area where Billow, Silverplay, Goblin, etc. have been improving and Orchid has been staying the same.

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Still want the big chimney/DT though. Gonna look back through my pages of cliffnotes and links from this thread for a long regular diameter chimney that'll drop in. That would be a nice interim solution. I'm not crazy about the idea of glue inside my atty. I know there are safe solutions but I'm going to try to avoid it. I'm hoping FT and it's blinding pace of new products will offer the wide bore chimney in a long version at some point. I don't want to go to a short tank (already realized why expanding the capacity is such an issue) but maybe they'll offer one for an extended tank that I can mod into a regular tank. Finger are crossed.

Yeah I try to actually read a thread before replying unless it's one of those monsters with hundreds of pages. Lots of great posts in this thread.

Something I noticed last night, I'm only getting bubbles from one juice channel and occasionally one other. Never from the other two. One coil running hotter than the other maybe? I did have a screw loosen on the first run. Snugged them down pretty good the 2nd time around and the ohm reading hasn't jumped. They were firing in near unison before I assembled. Dunno. Going to tackle that after I get the chimney up a little.

Me neither. Next stop is brazing with food grade silver alloy and a suitable flux. Haven't tackled that yet, but have done some research. Of course, settling on a design spec and having it made would be best and the most $$$ for individual pieces. But I'm not settled yet, so all this remains DIY.
 

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I scrapped a couple of Taifun GT bell-type caps yesterday trying to adapt them. Arggg. Have to wait for more to arrive before I can try again.

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The upside is, out of my frustration, I grabbed a Kayfun PC top cap and adapted that instead. Decided to "slam" it while I was at it and I'm quite happy with the result. Previous Taifun GT nano tank yielded a bit over 2 ml. Fit with a regular Kayfun PC tank, this one yields over 4 ml measured. :) Much needed capacity, because this JFC atty is crazy thirsty.

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Hey, Doc. Thanks for this. Good to hear from you again.

It's great that you've got the hardware down and have moved on to tastier pursuits. :)

For my notes, what VG/PG ratio do you use? I want to come up with a chart for what range works best with stock juice channels and air holes, and how those scale upward with thicker juice. This is one area where Billow, Silverplay, Goblin, etc. have been improving and Orchid has been staying the same.

Cheers!
Like Mr Soze there (btw I used to game under the handle "whoiskeysersoze" so seeing that name is both neat and confusing. "I don't remember posting tha- oh wait that ain't me") I test smaller batches (10ml batches in 15ml bottles) in drippers, mostly Veritas and magma. Those batches are 100vg except for flavorings.

When I move to the 30ml bottles i switch to about a 15%PG base, with a couple drops of saline per bottle. Those batches all go into orchids. So with flavorings, it's probably about 75% Vg, 24.5% PG, 0.5% saline.

That being said, when I really nail a batch during the 10ml phase (eg my crunch berry Smores) it goes straight into an Orchid as 100% vg. Not had a single problem yet. Vaping one of those right now, on a v4 with full pc tank and the rest stock, I think. Oh no, this one has a long chimney, cuz i like the way it fits with this double layered drip tip.

This one is twisted 28 gauge, micro coil, 6ish wraps, raised up to screw level, about 0.5ohms. Normal light rayon wicking.

All of my orchids are stock air, stock channels.
 

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Like Mr Soze there (btw I used to game under the handle "whoiskeysersoze" so seeing that name is both neat and confusing. "I don't remember posting tha- oh wait that ain't me") I test smaller batches (10ml batches in 15ml bottles) in drippers, mostly Veritas and magma. Those batches are 100vg except for flavorings.

Haha nice! Sorry to confuse you though.

Your last post confuses me a little. You have VG based flavorings but when you have the 15PG base in 30ml bottles you end up with 25PG w flavorings. It's probably just my poor reading comprehension skills but I'm not following it 100%. I am curious though.
 

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Something I noticed last night, I'm only getting bubbles from one juice channel and occasionally one other. Never from the other two. One coil running hotter than the other maybe? I did have a screw loosen on the first run. Snugged them down pretty good the 2nd time around and the ohm reading hasn't jumped. They were firing in near unison before I assembled. Dunno. Going to tackle that after I get the chimney up a little.

Which channels the bubbles emerge from doesn't correspond to which wick ends are wicking better or coils vaporizing better. The bubbles simply emerge from the place of least resistance, which can often be just one or two spots. As the wicks pull juice from the tank, a generalized negative pressure develops, and the bubbles are merely the opposite reaction to that negative pressure. All you can really tell from bubbles is where the bigger gaps between wick ends and channel openings are.
 
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Which channels the bubbles emerge from doesn't correspond to which wick ends are wicking better or coils vaporizing better. The bubbles simply emerge from the place of least resistance, which can often be just one or two spots. As the wicks pull juice from the tank, a generalized negative pressure develops, and the bubbles are merely the opposite reaction to that negative pressure. All you can really tell from bubbles is where the bigger gaps between wick ends and channel openings are.
Awesome news. Thanks a lot! I wasn't thinking about the fact that all of the wicks and channels share a chamber. Doh.

I managed to raise my stock chimney without disassembling! I grabbed the smallest wall anchor we had at work but didn't even try it because it was too big to fit down into the chimney. It's also slick plastic so it has no grabbing power. I had decided to try a top fill/chimney loosen instead. Started unscrewing the top and the chimney started coming with it! Normally that would have sucked but I made it work for me. Grabbed a pencil (the old kind you know, wood and graphite) and scissored the eraser into a point. Jammed that into the chimney tip while I tightened the top back down. Chimney stayed. Loosened the top (and chimney) a 1/4 turn, jammed eraser into chimney and tightened top back down. Did that a few times until I saw a gap under the chimney. Bottom filled as usual and removed the o-rings while I was at it. It helped! It's still not wicking 70VG fast enough to chain vape long hits at 30W but it's definitely a little better. Vape life improved one notch. I'll take that.

Looked back @TheWestPole 's pic and my gap is may 1/4 of that so I'll try some more and see if that does the trick. I mixed another 10ml of 70VG creamy sweet pear juice tonight in case I can get it to work but if not... I'll try 65VG then 60VG to tide me over until a permanent fix happens. I'll either taper the juice channels, add JFC, get extra decks, all of the above OOOOORRRRR find out where TheWestPole lives and steal his!!!! Kidding. I would never do that. I would just find out where you live, break in, find the Orchid, caress it gently, whisper sweet nothings in it's drip tip/chimney/JFC and maybe take a few (dozen) drags. Then leave it there, mostly empty and lonely. ;)
 

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Haha nice! Sorry to confuse you though.

Your last post confuses me a little. You have VG based flavorings but when you have the 15PG base in 30ml bottles you end up with 25PG w flavorings. It's probably just my poor reading comprehension skills but I'm not following it 100%. I am curious though.
hmm, i mighta worded it strangely.

PG based flavorings. My test batches are 100% VG, except for the flavorings, which are PG. so depending on the amount of flavoring, my "100%VG" tester batches may actually be as low as 90% VG, technically. I mostly refer to the base when i reference ratios, which i recognize is mathematically/stoichiometrically flawed, but it's easier :)
 

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hmm, i mighta worded it strangely.

PG based flavorings. My test batches are 100% VG, except for the flavorings, which are PG. so depending on the amount of flavoring, my "100%VG" tester batches may actually be as low as 90% VG, technically. I mostly refer to the base when i reference ratios, which i recognize is mathematically/stoichiometrically flawed, but it's easier :)
I gotcha now. "Max VG" is what I call that (up to 96VG total for some mixes when you're using FA :cool:). I use VG nic so my mixing method is probably a little different than some people's. 90VG is still way thick to be using in a tank!

In an effort to stay OT, it'll be awhile before I attempt max VG juice in my Orchid. Got some build work to do first.
 

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I gotcha now. "Max VG" is what I call that (up to 96VG total for some mixes when you're using FA :cool:). I use VG nic so my mixing method is probably a little different than some people's. 90VG is still way thick to be using in a tank!

In an effort to stay OT, it'll be awhile before I attempt max VG juice in my Orchid. Got some build work to do first.
oh yea, it's definitely higher than i'd prefer to use, but i just wanted to try, and sure enough it worked. this is stock air though, i've drilled nothing.

granted, i am not exactly chain vaping this stuff either. taking a few puffs, just slowing enjoying it. .5ohm on a freshly charged dual-18650 box mech, so somewhere around ~30-34 watts i guess. it's possible that my coils and wicks help too, i've really gotten them down to an art on the orchid. i doubt seriously i could coil a fogger v4 to save my life now, but the orchids i can do blindfolded. i cannot state for a fact that twisted coils help with efficient wicking/burning over similarly-ohmed 24 gauge or whatever, but i do know that everything just works on these builds. maybe they're made of compressed placebos... o_O
 

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oh yea, it's definitely higher than i'd prefer to use, but i just wanted to try, and sure enough it worked. this is stock air though, i've drilled nothing.

granted, i am not exactly chain vaping this stuff either. taking a few puffs, just slowing enjoying it. .5ohm on a freshly charged dual-18650 box mech, so somewhere around ~30-34 watts i guess. it's possible that my coils and wicks help too, i've really gotten them down to an art on the orchid. i doubt seriously i could coil a fogger v4 to save my life now, but the orchids i can do blindfolded. i cannot state for a fact that twisted coils help with efficient wicking/burning over similarly-ohmed 24 gauge or whatever, but i do know that everything just works on these builds. maybe they're made of compressed placebos... o_O
Haha maybe so. I'll have to look back at your coil build notes. I'm digging twisted coils lately. Might try to cram some in the Orchid someday.

I've been running the drilled Orchid V4 on my new Sigelei Mini 30W and it rocks my socks off. Loving that little mod right now. Once the small 50W mods come down in price that'll be my favorite mod tied with the SMPL, of course. Since the SMPL is the bees knees in pretty much every way. I got so used to the IPV3's size and heft that picking up and vaping the Mini 30W the first time was a real treat. It's so cute. But hits hard for its size.

Some barely modified Orchid porn.

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Haha maybe so. I'll have to look back at your coil build notes. I'm digging twisted coils lately. Might try to cram some in the Orchid someday.

I've been running the drilled Orchid V4 on my new Sigelei Mini 30W and it rocks my socks off. Loving that little mod right now. Once the small 50W mods come down in price that'll be my favorite mod tied with the SMPL, of course. Since the SMPL is the bees knees in pretty much every way. I got so used to the IPV3's size and heft that picking up and vaping the Mini 30W the first time was a real treat. It's so cute. But hits hard for its size.

Some barely modified Orchid porn.

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Nice. I totally agree with you about the SMPL. Best tube mech I have ever had. Just got a copper 26650 SMPL for the "big gulp" side-by-side Orchid rig. Now I can finally finish it. (If one can ever say these things are "finished.") :rolleyes:
 
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Nice. I totally agree with you about the SMPL. Best tube mech I have ever had. Just got a copper 26650 SMPL to for the "big gulp" side-by-side Orchid rig. Now I can finally finish it. (If one can ever say these things are "finished.") :rolleyes:
Oh c'mon man... A 26650 SMPL connected sideways to a drilled out and elongated Orchid is... wait for it... I have words for that.... fucking AWESOME.

I have a copper SMPL from bestpriceecig (which is badass btw). It was less than $20 shipped and the button was butter right OTB. I ordered another copper SMPL the other day (same store) and added a SS version to the order as well. I'm a SMPLholic. Love the regulated mods but if I want to run a mech, there's no reason to use anything other than a SMPL. Unless the atty doesn't work with a hybrid of course and I've already mentioned selling that one off for Orchid parts (coughAtlantiscough). I have a Stingray X for any other positive pins that don't protrude. :)
 

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Protip: Thomas the train vapes too. That's no smokestack, its a chuff cap!
 

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They have a standard size too, couple mm's taller. They are very close in size.
http://localvape.com/products/dotmod-baby-friction-drip-tips
http://localvape.com/collections/dotmod-tips/products/dotmod-petri-drip-tips
I picked black not only for the color preference but it's delrin, not aluminum so it will run that much cooler.

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Nice. One thing I really like about the big chimney is you get those stingy hot flavor darts shooting off the coils directly onto your tongue. :D Never had that with a tank before.

BTW, what's the actual capacity of the Mini?
 

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I'm not getting any spit back from the V2.

Haven't measured but I would think not much more than a couple ml's. I would think that extra width on the pipe takes a ml out of it.
I'll check it next refill.
 
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Yep, leaving a little air space you get 2 ml on the nose... actually probably a couple tenths more, lost a little into the chimney as I was pulling it out.

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True, fasttech and their minions should put a wide bore DT in the package. They give you a nice fat chimney pipe and then choke it off with a standard size DT.

Yeah, I poked around for a cheaper version and found a couple but nothing really moved me after seeing the dotmod. I will probably pick a couple cheapos up for other aty's but they may not see a lot of use :D

There is a vapenista knockoff on fasttech but it only comes in copper and gold. Yuk.
I guess for $2 I could bust out some black spray paint lol. If others can deal with the color choices, I would put one of these in the basket along with the V2. You are not getting the full experience with a standard DT.
http://www.fasttech.com/forums/1866001/t/1398651/apparently-i-got-cloned/1
 

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I kind of have an issue, I think.

My coils are either burning my cotton, or my kanthal isnt kanthal....

Every 4 days my coils start to put of this taste, I can't put my finger on it, but it makes my juice un-vapable.

Its a .4 ohm build and I'm only running it at around 15w.

The thing is when I take the chimney off my deck my coils have this gnarled look. Almost like they're charred rather than just gunky. I pull the cotton out and dry burn and they still look almost like they rusted or something.

I'm still pretty new to building and rba/rdas, I'm just trying to figure out if this is normal procedure or what?

Any advice or constructive criticism?
 

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Kanthal will look rusted after a few dry burns and a week in use.

The legs going to the center positive post should come off the top of the coil since that hole is higher than the negative hole. You have the coils top leg going to the lower negative hole and the bottom leg going to the higher center hole.

Coil being centered will help keep the entire coil in the air flow and cooled down so it is not burning wick. Un centered coil also gets you a really short wick tail on one side and a long one on the other side.

A 0.4 build should be about 30w once your setup is right.

Like this where you bend the negative wire 90° to the left to stretch over to the negative hole then 90° to turn it into the hole. This is done with the coil still on the rod that you wrapped it on. I bend with tweezers.
Coil on the right didn't turn out that well (still centered but not pretty) I re did it after the pic but the one on the left is correct.

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Also, this will greatly help your coil building. Those are some pretty ugly and uneven coils (you asked for it lol)
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No, thank you. And I actually have a coil jig coming in the mail any day now.

I'll update with some pictures later tonight.
 

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A lot of juices have a sweetener in them that will gunk up coils fast. I love 5 pawns, but it will gunk my coils up horrible in 2 days. My DIY juice which I know has no sweetener will last months without needing to re-wick.
 

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There is a vapenista knockoff on fasttech but it only comes in copper and gold. Yuk.
I guess for $2 I could bust out some black spray paint lol. If others can deal with the color choices, I would put one of these in the basket along with the V2. You are not getting the full experience with a standard DT.
http://www.fasttech.com/forums/1866001/t/1398651/apparently-i-got-cloned/1

I'm surprised you found those. No mention of "friction fit" in the description. :rolleyes: The metal rings are solid brass or copper which ain't bad. Worth tacking onto the next order. :)

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True, if you have a piece that matches it's on. I guess for $2 you could cut a stainless tube to size and toss the other if brass or copper isn't your thing.
 

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Nice. One thing I really like about the big chimney is you get those stingy hot flavor darts shooting off the coils directly onto your tongue. :D Never had that with a tank before.

BTW, what's the actual capacity of the Mini?
Haha, it's all about phrasing. I call them the "what the fuck was that hot weird shit that just went in my mouth? Did I just inhale a piece of wick? No it was just hot un-vaporized juice trying to burn it's way right into my lungs" darts.
 

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Haha, it's all about phrasing. I call them the "what the fuck was that hot weird shit that just went in my mouth? Did I just inhale a piece of wick? No it was just hot un-vaporized juice trying to burn it's way right into my lungs" darts.

Stingy and goooood. :D
 

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Thought more about that cheap FT friction DT, one is in the basket for my next order, once I get it I'm going to measure and grab some carbon tube from a rc/hobby shop and cut it to size.
Love carbon fiber and that will be a winner if I can find tubing in the correct size. I'll have to sell some to friends to recoup the tubing cost though. Probably cost $25 for enough to do about 30 DT's.

Hell, even bare like alex's its a great looking (and I'm sure working) tip considering the cost.
 

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Thought more about that cheap FT friction DT, one is in the basket for my next order, once I get it I'm going to measure and grab some carbon tube from a rc/hobby shop and cut it to size.
Love carbon fiber and that will be a winner if I can find tubing in the correct size. I'll have to sell some to friends to recoup the tubing cost though. Probably cost $25 for enough to do about 30 DT's.

Hell, even bare like alex's its a great looking (and I'm sure working) tip considering the cost.
I'd go ahead and get the dimensions for you, but before I realized to heat and hammer the delrin out of the sleeve, I took the Dremel to it so I doubt any measurement would be correct lol
 

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Youde's followup to Goblin is on it's way: Goliath.

Check out the deck. (No comment.)

Also interesting, the tank assembly, held together by the chimney, is attached to the base by the chamber threading, so you can rewick/rebuild by detaching a full tank if you like. I assume there's some JFC with that construction though the description doesn't specify it.


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Actually, I'm more amused than interested. The feature is not worth the added bulk and weight IMO.

http://vapenw.com/goliath-by-youde
 
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KeyserSoze

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Youde's followup to Goblin is on it's way: Goliath.

Check out the deck. (No comment.)

Also interesting, the tank assembly, held together by the chimney, is attached to the base by the chamber threading, so you can rewick/rebuild by detaching a full tank if you like.


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Actually, I'm more amused than interested. The feature is not worth the added bulk and weight IMO.

http://vapenw.com/goliath-by-youde
I like the idea of leaving the tank (and juice) in tact for a rewick or coil build. The channels look nice and deep too. Their FB page is a fun read.
 

fq06

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From the bottom of the base to the top of the bottom ring with Goliath on it is about as tall as the OG orchid... pass.
1.5ml capacity?
 

TheWestPole

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Youde's followup to Goblin is on it's way: Goliath.

Also interesting, the tank assembly, held together by the chimney, is attached to the base by the chamber threading, so you can rewick/rebuild by detaching a full tank if you like. I assume there's some JFC with that construction though the description doesn't specify it.


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Actually, I'm more amused than interested. The feature is not worth the added bulk and weight IMO.

http://vapenw.com/goliath-by-youde

Now I'm not so sure about JFC on Goliath. The assembled atty shows the big outer ring overhanging the base just enough for an o-ring. Unless it's only partially screwed down in the photo, doesn't look like there would be room to back it off without losing the seal. If that's the case they really missed an opportunity, because that construction would easily allow for JFC. o_O
 
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TheWestPole

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Second fat chimney Orchid with JFC (on the right). Taifun GT regular tank and top cap, 6 ml capacity. Not sure about the foggier finish. May go back to clearer.

I went a little bit deeper with the juice channels for this one: 3mm deep x 4mm wide at deck level. Changed the build from 28 gauge / 2.4mm / .7 ohm in the first to 26 gauge / 3.2mm / .5 ohm on the second. My thought was to increase the wick volume so there was more juice wicked and ready for each hit.

Will be comparing the two with the same juice for the next few days. No conclusions yet.

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