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Thats exactly what I mean when I say the Limitless could have been done much better. I love that thing.
Especially the "S" bling. Looks like they used m3.5 screws too...ones that match. :rolleyes:

How's the top cap? I'm fine with derlin so long as it's not cheap and shitty...

I like the wicking too. I bet guys that use cotton with the Limitless have a hard time keeping it from leaking.

Even the post thickness is nice. I'm not sure if having 1mm of extra contact equates to less drop but I'll take what I can get.

Not sure on a release date but Ill get the info when I can
Ill have a real write up for it when Augvape gives me permission but its pretty damn high quality...makes my limitless plus feel extremely cheap.
It has a Delrin Tip...BUT its much thicker, smoother and concave. The smoothness is similar to a Dotmod tip...that smoothness.
It also have a thing in the center, like a spitback guard that seals where you fill the tank but it doesnt interfere with airflow.

All screws are the same, they are the same as most other RTA grubs, using a 1.7mm Hex Driver. The screws themselves are decent-I normally replace mine every build because Im too tough on them I guess.
The base is made from Brass it seems...it gives it some heft and I like that alot....I also have a Black/Gold theme with my collection so it was nice that it fits with many of my mods..
The only real issue I have with it is the fill port....I dont normally carry a needle tipped bottle with my shit outside but the tank lasts a good amount of time so it should be avoidable going out and about.

I havent tried different topcaps on it, that idea just actually popped into my head but I will add that to my draft for later.
 

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I don't vape very hot yet. Working up. Usually 20 to 30 watts. This is 5 wraps. Came out to .81 ohms

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I like the wicking too. I bet guys that use cotton with the Limitless have a hard time keeping it from leaking.
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I was at Walmart. Almost bought tampons..

I havent tried different topcaps on it, that idea just actually popped into my head but I will add that to my draft for later.

You make me hate my skills, in a good way. I need to practice more.
42ni80, 50ni80, .4 & .5 ribbon are on the way
Fixing to go work on a 3 core alien...Will update IF successful.
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ignore the tugboat, best rda I have right now. Goon and tm24 top the Black Friday list
Good job. I had a hard time getting consistent alien wire with 36g. Raymo said to try it full speed. I found a good middle ground which is about 2500rpm.
It's better to go fast if you aren't very steady. I'm really out of practice now.
 

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Thanks. Paperclips kept flying off lol. All 316l stainless to try this tc stuff on the g2. Maybe.
Going to try some 38 tomorrow
 

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So I made a snake spine but I can't get the fins bent right. I'm doing them in the same direction. I grabbed it with pliers and ran it through toothless pliers but it didn't do much.
Also, how hard are you supposed to hammer on a build with ribbon in it?
Just the weight of the hammer (roofing hammer) from a few inches?
 

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I'm glad for you. I love dotmod stuff.
Using 28g frames:
6 ply = 26g decore
8 ply = 25g decore (24g might work)
10 ply = 24g decore

Tom Forde gave me this list a while ago and I've used it since.
wow thanks for that... ive got a core together with 4x .4 and framed with 28... I was going to try a 28g decore since its only .1 more than 3x28g. Im not really into gold so i got a SS clone.... and its beautiful. It came with a pair of 3 cored flat fused claptons, kinda knockoff aliens but they look pretty nice.
 

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So I made a snake spine but I can't get the fins bent right. I'm doing them in the same direction. I grabbed it with pliers and ran it through toothless pliers but it didn't do much.
Also, how hard are you supposed to hammer on a build with ribbon in it?
Just the weight of the hammer (roofing hammer) from a few inches?
No pics no proof!
 

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So I made a snake spine but I can't get the fins bent right. I'm doing them in the same direction. I grabbed it with pliers and ran it through toothless pliers but it didn't do much.
Also, how hard are you supposed to hammer on a build with ribbon in it?
Just the weight of the hammer (roofing hammer) from a few inches?
I beat the hell of of mine...the Ribbon is stuck in a small confined space with no way to go with high strength and tension...the worst the could happen is your fusing be cut.
You need to pull the wire through so the fins hit the jaws, squeeze pliers so they would have to bend if you can pull it through, you will need some elbow grease pulling it through.

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Thought this was cool:

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I also got some gear from USAOhmmeters...though Im not trying to advertise for them since I was just lied to repeatedly and lead on for a while all the while using my ideas and making money off them while only crediting themselves....I thought I would see if these were useful, I know the spool holder would be useful.

Drill Vise and Swivel Vise, one of the sweater pull tie thingies and the spool holder, was around $35 altogether with shipping...
Ill report my results as I use them...I did make a 4 core fused clapton pretty easily, though its time consuming its definitly better then usiong Ribbon sliders, this setup would be especially worth getting if you plan on making alot of SSFC's, Staggertons, or other Multicore wires....the Vise parts clamp down good on all the wire you stuff them with, they also seem pretty well balanced.
I would make videos and other stuff but like I said I dont want to advertise for them and I will only post what I feel is helpful to builders.

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I beat the hell of of mine...the Ribbon is stuck in a small confined space with no way to go with high strength and tension...the worst the could happen is your fusing be cut.
You need to pull the wire through so the fins hit the jaws, squeeze pliers so they would have to bend if you can pull it through, you will need some elbow grease pulling it through.

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I also got some gear from USAOhmmeters...though Im not trying to advertise for them since I was just lied to repeatedly and lead on for a while all the while using my ideas and making money off them while only crediting themselves....I thought I would see if these were useful, I know the spool holder would be useful.

Drill Vise and Swivel Vise, one of the sweater pull tie thingies and the spool holder, was around $35 altogether with shipping...
Ill report my results as I use them...I did make a 4 core fused clapton pretty easily, though its time consuming its definitly better then usiong Ribbon sliders, this setup would be especially worth getting if you plan on making alot of SSFC's, Staggertons, or other Multicore wires....the Vise parts clamp down good on all the wire you stuff them with, they also seem pretty well balanced.
I would make videos and other stuff but like I said I dont want to advertise for them and I will only post what I feel is helpful to builders.

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Oooh cord stoppers - good idea Ray!
 

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Ssfc tips? Might do one this evening
Make sure your spacing is perfect...Other then that there isnt much to cheat with...
Clapton one long strand of staggered clapton, cut it in half and make sure the clapton faces the same direction when you hook it up. Bind your frames to the drill and swivel and use Ribbon Sliders (LOOSELY PINCH THEM) to secure the Ribbon to the center. If you over pinch them then you wont be able to slide them and they can also move the clapton if too tight and then catch when moved.
When fusing make sure your tension is consistent, use the Plastic Baggie method to ensure it wont be too tight.

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Wait...you cut yours in half? I thought you bent it around the swivel.
I'll try that next time.
I do the exact same thing with the ribbon floating but instead of ribbon sliders I open up some paperclips so they're loose and just pin it every 2" or so. More if needed.
The hardest part was getting perfect spaced clapton over 20" of 28g because the weighed loop makes the wire sag.
Raymo showed me this video and it worked perfectly. Get 2 or 3 inches of perfect spaced clapton using the weighted loop then take a bag clip with electric tape on the jaws and clamp it over your clapton so your spool wire is sticking out...keep tension on the spool while you do it. If you have the right clip you should be able to hammer on it pretty fast. When the clip bites the clapton it pushes grooves into the tape and as it spins the pattern will follow.
 

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Wait...you cut yours in half? I thought you bent it around the swivel.
I'll try that next time.
I do the exact same thing with the ribbon floating but instead of ribbon sliders I open up some paperclips so they're loose and just pin it every 2" or so. More if needed.
The hardest part was getting perfect spaced clapton over 20" of 28g because the weighed loop makes the wire sag.
Raymo showed me this video and it worked perfectly. Get 2 or 3 inches of perfect spaced clapton using the weighted loop then take a bag clip with electric tape on the jaws and clamp it over your clapton so your spool wire is sticking out...keep tension on the spool while you do it. If you have the right clip you should be able to hammer on it pretty fast. When the clip bites the clapton it pushes grooves into the tape and as it spins the pattern will follow.
I only fold in half if its not a Staggered build...staggering requires the staggering to go in the same direction at the same angle....you could jeopardize it by folding it.


I tried to attempt a personal goal today, ending up setting a record in the build community doing it :D

Ive wanted to Alien a .3 Ribbon strip....I used 34g as my decore and it went very well...almost too easy. I wanted to try something else afterwards...a Enigma Ribbon, which I ended up with a Double Humped Enigma Ribbon on a .6 Ribbon strip....Im thinking Ill try to make a really large Double Hump Enigma and use this ribbon as a Inlay!

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I only fold in half if its not a Staggered build...staggering requires the staggering to go in the same direction at the same angle....you could jeopardize it by folding it.


I tried to attempt a personal goal today, ending up setting a record in the build community doing it :D

Ive wanted to Alien a .3 Ribbon strip....I used 34g as my decore and it went very well...almost too easy. I wanted to try something else afterwards...a Enigma Ribbon, which I ended up with a Double Humped Enigma Ribbon on a .6 Ribbon strip....Im thinking Ill try to make a really large Double Hump Enigma and use this ribbon as a Inlay!

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Explains why I have trouble some times.
So after you cut, you sit the pieces parallel WITHOUT turning either around right?
Makes sense because there is definitely an angle to it.
 

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I love how i can just twist a strand of wire around one side of my clapton jig clamp before i put it on and perfect spaced clapton, ive done 30 inches with perfect spacing and no flaws. I like it for things that need to be PERFECT the first time, like staggers and alien decores.
 

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I only fold in half if its not a Staggered build...staggering requires the staggering to go in the same direction at the same angle....you could jeopardize it by folding it.


I tried to attempt a personal goal today, ending up setting a record in the build community doing it :D

Ive wanted to Alien a .3 Ribbon strip....I used 34g as my decore and it went very well...almost too easy. I wanted to try something else afterwards...a Enigma Ribbon, which I ended up with a Double Humped Enigma Ribbon on a .6 Ribbon strip....Im thinking Ill try to make a really large Double Hump Enigma and use this ribbon as a Inlay!

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God status.

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To everyone that doesn't want to post there builds because they think there not good enough. We all start somewhere , half the time my builds come out like garbage. Everyone out there started somewhere , no one was just great at building as soon as they touched some wire and screw drivers , so basically I'm saying post your builds and anyone to talk shot about them no matter what they look like should be kicked off the thread. Vape on , fuck the cancer sticks

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Every build is worth showing, your not showing how well your build looks. Your showing that your determined, looking to learn skills, increasing your knowledge in your hobby, showcasing what you've learned so far. Its also great for later to see how far you have come....I dont have pics from when I FIRST started unfortunately....I wish I did to help others see that I didnt all of sudden make the stuff I do now, this thread has become a great point of reference though...starting in the Mid-30's to now you can see how far alot of us here have developed over time....
 

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To everyone that doesn't want to post there builds because they think there not good enough. We all start somewhere
Absolutely. All is takes is practice. Some things take a little more practice than others, but when you get that "A-HA" moment during a difficult build and it FINALLY comes out great, it's a wonderful feeling of accomplishment.
 

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I bet you would have a harder time recreating that same exact build the way it is then a fresh pair of aliens though
I bet you're right!

I think it was 28KA1 on a Patriot clone (my first RDA) that I was told was authentic at a local B&M.
 

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I agree. It took me a few tries to even get a coil that would hold it self together. Personally I see the stuff yall post and get inspired to work harder. Who knew ziplock bags held the key to not breaking 42g and up, ribbon sliders, paper clips. Now I'm not scared of waiting wire on aliens! Just wish I would have joined a year ago. Being able to build without getting frustrated would have kept me from going back to cigarettes last winter.

Thank yall!
 
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I agree. It took me a few tries to even get a coil that would hold it self together. Personally I see the stuff yall post and get inspired to work harder. Who knew ziplock bags held the key to not breaking 42g and up, ribbon sliders, paper clips. Now I'm not scared of waiting wire on aliens! Just wish I would have joined a year ago. Being able to build without getting frustrated would have kept me from going back to cigarettes.

Thank yall!
For something better then Paperclips for stuff like aliens and other round wire builds try using one of those drawstring squeezy thingies...it works very well...Im not completely sold for using it with Ribbon wire/Staggertons and stuff but for Cat Tracks, Aliens, Fused claptons, Staggered Fused Claptons and more it is a great tool
 

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So I've said several times that my 30g isn't here yet. My buddy ordered 1000' of 36g, 100' or 250' of 26g, 100' of 0.4mm and (for me) 250' of 30g. All A1. The reason for all that is because I usually build for him and he wants to learn how starting from the bottom...hence the 26g. Single, fused and alien can all be done.

The post office lost the shit and there's no way of knowing when they'll find it.

I'm about to order some 30g but I'm not sure if I should get n80 or A1. It's primary use will be frames with A1 0.3mm. Any thoughts? 30g is the only one between 22g and 38g that I don't have.
I like the idea of it coloring and heating faster. I don't think it will be possible to build too low. My fatty is 28g with 12ply 0.4mm and it's 0.08ohm. If I did the same build with n80 30g and 0.3mm A1 it would probably be higher right?

Greater than 0.1ohm is ideal since I only have the G2 now. Sorry for the text dump.

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I've gotten pretty good with the snake spines. Not flattening and bending the spines but on my third attempt I got 12" with no mistakes and I fused it wide open.
But...my goal is a staple.
When I put ribbon in the middle is there anything I need to know?
My plan is to put the paperclips on very loose. The reason I ask is because the way I'm doing this the spaced clapton stretches as I fuse it.
I would use ribbon sliders but I always seem to donk up the spacing when I bend it over the wire.

Edit 2:
Just coiled it. Huge fail. I didn't get the fins steep enough and they locked together and I should have hammered it instead of rolling it flat.
 
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Yall should be happy that yall aren't rebuilding protank 2 coils. Omg that's all I have to say. I also remember when I first started trying to build coils. My first attempts were on stainless steel mesh and then silica. Both were failed horribly but then I found out about cotton and screws/drill bits. Everything was heaven since then.
 

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I dont know if anyone saw this yet but it made its debut during the Expo today...

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Can you use your insider TM access to find out who makes nice drip tips for the TM24? I can't find any except one guy in England that has one color.
 

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I've gotten pretty good with the snake spines. Not flattening and bending the spines but on my third attempt I got 12" with no mistakes and I fused it wide open.
But...my goal is a staple.
When I put ribbon in the middle is there anything I need to know?
My plan is to put the paperclips on very loose. The reason I ask is because the way I'm doing this the spaced clapton stretches as I fuse it.
I would use ribbon sliders but I always seem to donk up the spacing when I bend it over the wire.
Edit 2:
Just coiled it. Huge fail. I didn't get the fins steep enough and they locked together and I should have hammered it instead of rolling it flat.

I havent made more then one and I remember the experience being very irritating...I dont have many tips for addind the Ribbon...Tape or using Hot Glue or melted wax would help to keep everything together at the start.

Can you use your insider TM access to find out who makes nice drip tips for the TM24? I can't find any except one guy in England that has one color.
There are a few places, Crispy Caps, DoubleHelixDesigns, District5.

On instagram there are a few smaller places like:
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I'd do an 8 ply minimum. A 6 ply is really close to a square. 28g should work for that.

Thanks Raymo. Once I figure out the right hammering, scraping and gauges I'll jam some ribbon in it.
I made a 38g over 28g earlier that worked really well but I do need to try hammering them.
 

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6 ply would be the equivalent of a 4x6 area - hardly a square.
 

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6 ply would be the equivalent of a 4x6 area - hardly a square.
It's also hardly a rectangle.
The wider it is the easier it is to keep it from folding over on the jig and I'm not entirely sure you can alien over something that close to a square without making a Mohawk.
 

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It's also hardly a rectangle.
Umm... Yeah, it kinda IS a rectangle.
I do 6 ply staples on a fairly regular basis. They're not hard to wrap at all. If you can wrap 8, then you can wrap 6.
But I do agree with the need for frames for an alien staple. The 90° angle on the cores is gonna be pretty hard to work with without frames.
 

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My point was never that it isn't a mathematical rectangle. It was that it isn't wide enough. Or that it's too tall.
A 12 ply 0.4mm with a 26g decore is as small as I've done. It's even possible using 34g if you stretch just right.
You don't need frames you just need it to be wide enough. If you throw 28g frames on it you can use 26g for the decore. Either one is easier than a 3 core 26g alien since it can't triangle.
 

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Dual Fused Clapton
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36 g ss.
Wrapped around a 2.5 mm screw driver
Reading 0.11 ohms
This is my 2nd Fused Clapton I ever made. I have been vaping for 4 months now. I build on and off when I have the time . I know it's not the best build but not bad for only building for 2 months . To me this is what this thread is about. Sharing the good and the bad. Vape on !!! Fuck those cancer sticks !!
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