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[raymo2u]

Got the Springer RDA a few days ago...its pretty surprising IMO..

This was probably the easiest install I've ever had with a RDA as it uses automotive grade springs to push the posts closed, you push them down and just insert your coils. I was skeptical that they wouldn't have enough pressure but man these things are firm as F $@K!! I tossed some 4 Clapton Cored Aliens inside in less then a minute flat and had no connection issues which I was impressed with. The domed topcap, goon tip compatible, 10+mm juice well and airflow options make this a great inexpensive option for people wanting a simple and reliable vape.

 

[Dustyjeans]

Got the Springer RDA a few days ago...its pretty surprising IMO..

This was probably the easiest install I've ever had with a RDA as it uses automotive grade springs to push the posts closed, you push them down and just insert your coils. I was skeptical that they wouldn't have enough pressure but man these things are firm as F $@K!! I tossed some 4 Clapton Cored Aliens inside in less then a minute flat and had no connection issues which I was impressed with. The domed topcap, goon tip compatible, 10+mm juice well and airflow options make this a great inexpensive option for people wanting a simple and reliable vape.

Looking great boss! What guage are the clapton cores? 32/44?

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[raymo2u]

Looking great boss! What guage are the clapton cores? 32/44?

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Thanks bud!
Specs: 30g/42g SS Cores with 36g SS Alien Wrap. I used a 24g Decore.

 

[Dustyjeans]

Appreciate the recipie! Hows it ramp up?

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[raymo2u]

Appreciate the recipie! Hows it ramp up?

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Im actually using it on a Hohm Wrecker G2 in Temp Mode...its the first time since I got the Hohm Wrecker that Ive used TC and Im actually pretty damn happy with how warm it is (150w/550F). In wattage mode I like it around 130w and the ramp up is instant...but thats the G2 for you. Onm a mech I would expect a slightly lagging ramp up and a decent amount of heat after it warms up but 30g (even with SS) isnt hot enough, even with 5 cores in a large RDA. If I was building for a Mech I would do 27g SS/46g N80 and use 42g interlocks for the alien Wrap (4 Wraps/3mm ID)

Also wanted to hare some product shots Ive made and build pics...Im started to get a real good feel for the camera and taking more time to edit all the tiny subtle flaws (dust/scratches/fingerprinting/shiny areas)

Before:

After:

 

[KingPin!]

Got the Springer RDA a few days ago...its pretty surprising IMO..

This was probably the easiest install I've ever had with a RDA as it uses automotive grade springs to push the posts closed, you push them down and just insert your coils. I was skeptical that they wouldn't have enough pressure but man these things are firm as F $@K!! I tossed some 4 Clapton Cored Aliens inside in less then a minute flat and had no connection issues which I was impressed with. The domed topcap, goon tip compatible, 10+mm juice well and airflow options make this a great inexpensive option for people wanting a simple and reliable vape.

I was looking at the springer myself was skeptical like you Raymo wonder how how long those springs last though ...awesome concept if they do!

 

[raymo2u]

I was looking at the springer myself was skeptical like you Raymo wonder how how long those springs last though ...awesome concept if they do!

The springs are pretty tough, they aren't tiny at all and are supposed to be automotive grade. No current goes through them as they just sit inside the posts and with 2 walls of metal around them I doubt they will get hot enough to hurt their function but it does include spare springs just in case.

Yesterday I made a short clip on how quick an install is with preclip pedal leads with a 4 core alien (4 wraps/3mm id)...took less then 14 seconds to install both and they only needed to be corrected slightly, glowed evenly with no strumming or anything.
There really isn't much I don't like about it apart from the stock tip and post holes. I suggested they made a V2 with either all 4 big holes the same size or make a version with a rectangular hole cut all the way across where the holes are now...then you could easily mount any coil.

 

[kmellard30]

just got my azeroth in the mail, new builder and first triple coil. I whipped up some 28*2 twisted kanthal and claptoned it with 40ga. nichrome. 6 wraps at 3mm.

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[gakudzu]

Just wondering what all I could stuff in my Combo using the postless deck. Quite a bit it seems lol. 4mm id fused 26/34, single 26/34 parallel. All Ka1. 0.16ohms

 

[Cormic]

Raymo2u those pics are nice quality. These pics however will not be lol. I have my iPad camera and that's it. These are far from perfect but it's probably the best I've done so far over all. 10 ply .4x.1 / 36 wrap.

 

[KingPin!]

Raymo2u those pics are nice quality. These pics however will not be lol. I have my iPad camera and that's it. These are far from perfect but it's probably the best I've done so far over all. 10 ply .4x.1 / 36 wrap. View attachment 85770View attachment 85771View attachment 85772

Great job cormic

 

[MaxPerilous]

Some of these coils look like art pieces! I'd almost feel guilty for getting juice on em. That prob fades away quickly once you start vaping on these bad boys.

 

[BKTOAD]

My previous attempt at ssfc turned out to be a flop. Ribbon collapsed somewhere along the way.

This set is servicible. Not remarkably clean, but will worry about that next time. Cant wait to fire them up.

 

[whiteowl84]

If you only have tension on the frames and the ribbon is just sitting in there, the ribbon won't collapse. Using 40g helps too.

 

[BKTOAD]

Made this after the ssfc. Made the alien seem easy.

@whiteowl84 are you suggesting 40g is easier to stagger? I figured the 36 would be easier. Will try 40 next time.

 

[BKTOAD]

Another build from today. Wanted to work on staggering with 40g. 4x30ss/40ss staggered fused.

Pics taken with awful lighting. Plus need to find a better macro clip.

 

[whiteowl84]

40g is harder. It's almost half as thick so you have almost twice the gaps... No room for fuckery in the spacing. But you don't need tension to fuse it. Granted I started making SSFCs with 36g and never collapsed any of them but if you're using 0.3mm it's a good idea to step up the fuse gauge. Since using 40g it's by far my favorite, I rarely use anything else because it's just so easy to work with.

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[Dustyjeans]

My previous attempt at ssfc turned out to be a flop. Ribbon collapsed somewhere along the way.

This set is servicible. Not remarkably clean, but will worry about that next time. Cant wait to fire them up.

Good perspective after all the vape is what should matter most! Theyll get better everytime.

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[Carambrda]

@whiteowl84 are you suggesting 40g is easier to stagger? I figured the 36 would be easier. Will try 40 next time.

My (limited) experience has taught me that 36g Ni80 works five times easier than 40g. The first coil build that I ever did was a pair of staple staggered fused claptons, I actually built them four weeks after I started vaping─before I even learned how to make a regular clapton, and despite this they ended up looking like this:

 

[MannyScoot]

4th of July gift, a Big Thank You.....

Thanks Inspects........

Bdbuilders Aliens..... SS316..... Pair ohms at .24

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[MannyScoot]

I like them both but which one? Depends on the coil build brutha...mabey you should give us a peek inside those AFC slots.

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[Jriley]

I had fun with these raymo thanks for idea lol. 24g decore, 30gx3 with 38g wraps, 36g alien wrap

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[KingPin!]

I had fun with these raymo thanks for idea lol. 24g decore, 30gx3 with 38g wraps, 36g alien wrap

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Nice mate great job! Let me know how they vape with ramp up might just have to have a go at these myself!

 

[kmellard30]

second attempt of the sfc. 26*2 kanthal x 36 nichrome80.... not perfect but it will vape well and encouraging for my next attempt.5 wraps on 3mm reading .38 on the ammit single coil deck.

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[Jriley]

second attempt of the sfc. 26*2 kanthal x 36 nichrome80.... not perfect but it will vape well and encouraging for my next attempt.5 wraps on 3mm reading .38 on the ammit single coil deck.

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You using loop method?

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[Whiskeywarrior]

A triple enigma/hedgehog whatever. 14ply .4 , 28g frames fused with 38g. All 316 ss

 

[Jriley]

A triple enigma/hedgehog whatever. 14ply .4 , 28g frames fused with 38g. All 316 ss
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Gangster... Must make

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[kmellard30]

You using loop method?

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i am using the loop for the spacing on the cores and freehanding the fuse.

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[Jriley]

i am using the loop for the spacing on the cores and freehanding the fuse.

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I use the loop method also and the weight .. After throwing all my staggered builds away because spacing not matching i went to good old wasteful paraclap..

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[raymo2u]

Nice mate great job! Let me know how they vape with ramp up might just have to have a go at these myself!

Ramp up is much better with thinner clapton for sure and a thinner alien but a 28 or 26g core claptoned with 40g and the alien being 36g-40g works very well...saturated warm draws every time.

 

[Jriley]

Ramp up is much better with thinner clapton for sure and a thinner alien but a 28 or 26g core claptoned with 40g and the alien being 36g-40g works very well...saturated warm draws every time.

The middle core wire on mine is 30g ss and both outside core wires are kanthal. Was thinking the ss would help speed it up

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[MWorthington]

I'm almost ashamed to post these after some of the builds we've seen here, but what the hell. My first build: 24g KA1, 5 wraps, ohms out at .25 for the pair on my Innokin Eurus. They vape pretty good at 30 watts. I finally solved my spitback problem for now at least, now I need to try to mix up some better tasting juice.

Aaaand here we go!



Yeah it's not the greatest picture and I know what you're thinking..."Those look like shit!"

I built them with one hand!

 

[Jriley]

Oh man these vape great.. These have a name raymo?

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[MaxPerilous]

For being a one handed job, they look better than all my two handed, tongue out the side of my mouth attempts!

 

[Jriley]

I'm almost ashamed to post these after some of the builds we've seen here, but what the hell. My first build: 24g KA1, 5 wraps, ohms out at .25 for the pair on my Innokin Eurus. They vape pretty good at 30 watts. I finally solved my spitback problem for now at least, now I need to try to mix up some better tasting juice.

Aaaand here we go!

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Yeah it's not the greatest picture and I know what you're thinking..."Those look like shit!"

I built them with one hand!

But you built it and it vapes good to you. So you win man.

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[Dustyjeans]

I'm almost ashamed to post these after some of the builds we've seen here, but what the hell. My first build: 24g KA1, 5 wraps, ohms out at .25 for the pair on my Innokin Eurus. They vape pretty good at 30 watts. I finally solved my spitback problem for now at least, now I need to try to mix up some better tasting juice.

Aaaand here we go!

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Yeah it's not the greatest picture and I know what you're thinking..."Those look like shit!"

I built them with one hand!

One hand you say? Thats great! Dont be ashamed we all start somewhere. Its all about the journey down that foggy road. Lol

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[raymo2u]

The middle core wire on mine is 30g ss and both outside core wires are kanthal. Was thinking the ss would help speed it up

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Clapton Cored Aliens as far as I know!

Now for some brain damaging....

Alien Staggerton with some 42g Staggering and Fusing on a 5ply/28g Framed Staple Core.

 

[kmellard30]

I use the loop method also and the weight .. After throwing all my staggered builds away because spacing not matching i went to good old wasteful paraclap..

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I may try that out if I cant get it the way I have been using, thanks!

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[MaxPerilous]

Clapton Cored Aliens as far as I know!

Now for some brain damaging....

Alien Staggerton with some 42g Staggering and Fusing on a 5ply/28g Framed Staple Core.

What are they going into? They look HUGE lol. And time consuming to make. Are these types of coils worth the effort?? Or is this strictly for the vape porn addict in all of us?

 

[mach1ne]

I'm almost ashamed to post these after some of the builds we've seen here

we all thought that at one point man...youll get a kick out of coming back here in a few months and seeing how much progress you made

youre a monster @raymo2u

 

[raymo2u]

What are they going into? They look HUGE lol. And time consuming to make. Are these types of coils worth the effort?? Or is this strictly for the vape porn addict in all of us?

Actually the normal versions I make with the 36g wrap is my personal favorite vape of all time aside from 5x28g/40g SS Aliens. If your into regulated mods then you wont notice any difference as you can adjust the power output but for the enthusiasts that use mechs mainly this is the ultimate build for flavor and clouds.

The 5x28g/36g Alien Staggerton is very warm, especially with SS Cores which I prefer, its also a low resistance build at .07 (SS Cores 4 Wraps/3mm ID).
The math and science behind it is memorizing....a alien by itself provides extra wicking/juice holding, 3 cores to ramp up and shed heat and the outer wrap determines how hot it gets or how slow it ramps up...
With the Alien staggertons your getting even more cores so ramp up is lightning quick but there is also more wrapping on it for more juice holding and faster wicking providing more saturation when drawing. Having the core separated the way they are also is key....3 together heating up and one on each side further apart heating up with inlets between.. 36g allow for a slightly slower ramp up (heatsink effect) so its not too too hot....its not just a dick measuring contest, its one of the best builds ever IMO.

Ive made them with 30g SS cores for smaller RTAs and RDA, tried many wrap styles, they can be made to fit anything and manipulated to fire how ever you want using different cores together and different wrap sizes...giving the ultimate amount of choices aside from normal staggertons.
Most Recent to First...there so many in between but showing most of the variations:

In regards to showing off...this is showing off. The Alien Staggerton Ive made for over a year straight and not a single other person has made even a single coil perfect and then I made it my mission to teach others to overcome the fear of trying to make them. With some pushing Ive gotten atleast a dozen other builders who just barely started making basic aliens into making them and most of them have had great success....with a easy to follo routine and a simple look at how to make them it becomes easy. I make them in my livestreams on Instagram almost every session, so if your interested just tune in there.
The Double Frame Alien Staggerton:

 

[Dustyjeans]

Clapton Cored Aliens as far as I know!

Now for some brain damaging....

Alien Staggerton with some 42g Staggering and Fusing on a 5ply/28g Framed Staple Core.

Are you gonna put it through the pasta roller?

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[Dustyjeans]

What are they going into? They look HUGE lol. And time consuming to make. Are these types of coils worth the effort?? Or is this strictly for the vape porn addict in all of us?

The 6x28/36 staggered aliens i have made with raymos advice are an awsome vape thwy replaced FS as my new fav. Havent tried tried building these yet tho (still working on makimg clean 40g aliens)

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[Dustyjeans]

The 6x28/36 staggered aliens i have made with raymos advice are an awsome vape thwy replaced FS as my new fav. Havent tried tried building these yet tho (still working on makimg clean 40g aliens)

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Correction i meant the 5 core.

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[MannyScoot]

Experimentation

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[Carambrda]

I use the loop method also and the weight .. After throwing all my staggered builds away because spacing not matching i went to good old wasteful paraclap..

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But have you tried the better new non wasteful button trick?

 

[whiteowl84]

But have you tried the better new non wasteful button trick?

Doesn't work on ribbon, especially if you use 40g.

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[kmellard30]

But have you tried the better new non wasteful button trick?

I tried the button with the spool on a spool tamer and completly automated the spaced core process, however that is kinda a pain to set up and the loop around a finger works just as well with less set up time.

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[whiteowl84]

If you're only doing round wire and you already have the spool tamer why not just leave the button out and use the spool tamer for spacing?

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[Carambrda]

Doesn't work on ribbon, especially if you use 40g.

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I know, but I couldn't see any ribbon in those (what look to me like they are) staggered fused claptons.