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The_hat_trix

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Dude first of all thank you so much for saying I’m elite. There’s no bigger complaint you can give someone in the building community and I can’t even express to you what that means to me or how good it makes me feel.

I have to be humble out of the respect for the fellow builders I have mentioned and admit I am not actually elite. As with everything including this forum there’s a group of what you would consider the best; that being a combination of functional fundamentals and showmanship. Elite is really taking the best out of the best. I’ll give you three current examples because there are just not that many to choose from at the moment on this forum. @raymo2u and @WPMac are both elite. The one other person who has given me an indication that he has the ability to rise to that status is @Severinomotta. These three builders do things, very very complicated well thought out builds, that I personally do not yet have the ability to do. I will concede however, that most people who vape my coils are going to find that I am in fact a very good functional builder. I just cannot in good consciousness allow myself to be grouped with those I previously mentioned.

Now how bout on to you killer! That’s a great first post! Looks like a twisted clapton which I know gives a good vape and it looks really clean man. I’m really impressed that you took it upon yourself to learn how to do that and you’ve got massive potential for sure! Don’t be afraid to zoom in a little closer, if you can find a way to steady the bottom of your phone on something it might be easier to get a clearer shot close up. But great first post! Welcome to the builders club my friend!:D

Edit: If we are talking about elite I need to make some honorable mentions. @The_hat_trix is one of the best functional builders of today’s market. He has his own website that he works with Raymo from my understanding. There are two builders which without I would still be maxed out at three core aliens. Those are @mach1ne and @CrazyChef v2.0. The Chef at one time had a forum, relatively small at the time, that allowed me to experiment and post on a consistent basis. The machine and the Chef were the only ones that provided me with any consistent feedback. It was enough to get me to a point where I could come to this forum and kinda fit in so to speak and ever since then I just became more consistent and better. So I think when speaking about the elite it’s sometimes important to remember the trailblazers and the ones who give back because they honestly created ShredTravolta as he is known on this forum today. Without them I just wouldn’t be a part of what’s going on and I’ll forever feel in debt to them.

My website act as a "HUB" to other builders who sale coils to. And thank you for kind words my friend :)
 

midknight420

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Dude first of all thank you so much for saying I’m elite. There’s no bigger complaint you can give someone in the building community and I can’t even express to you what that means to me or how good it makes me feel.

I have to be humble out of the respect for the fellow builders I have mentioned and admit I am not actually elite. As with everything including this forum there’s a group of what you would consider the best; that being a combination of functional fundamentals and showmanship. Elite is really taking the best out of the best. I’ll give you three current examples because there are just not that many to choose from at the moment on this forum. @raymo2u and @WPMac are both elite. The one other person who has given me an indication that he has the ability to rise to that status is @Severinomotta. These three builders do things, very very complicated well thought out builds, that I personally do not yet have the ability to do. I will concede however, that most people who vape my coils are going to find that I am in fact a very good functional builder. I just cannot in good consciousness allow myself to be grouped with those I previously mentioned.

Now how bout on to you killer! That’s a great first post! Looks like a twisted clapton which I know gives a good vape and it looks really clean man. I’m really impressed that you took it upon yourself to learn how to do that and you’ve got massive potential for sure! Don’t be afraid to zoom in a little closer, if you can find a way to steady the bottom of your phone on something it might be easier to get a clearer shot close up. But great first post! Welcome to the builders club my friend!:D

Edit: If we are talking about elite I need to make some honorable mentions. @The_hat_trix is one of the best functional builders of today’s market. He has his own website that he works with Raymo from my understanding. There are two builders which without I would still be maxed out at three core aliens. Those are @mach1ne and @CrazyChef v2.0. The Chef at one time had a forum, relatively small at the time, that allowed me to experiment and post on a consistent basis. The machine and the Chef were the only ones that provided me with any consistent feedback. It was enough to get me to a point where I could come to this forum and kinda fit in so to speak and ever since then I just became more consistent and better. So I think when speaking about the elite it’s sometimes important to remember the trailblazers and the ones who give back because they honestly created ShredTravolta as he is known on this forum today. Without them I just wouldn’t be a part of what’s going on and I’ll forever feel in debt to them.
I knew that you were too humble to take the elite status haha. I said so in my post. But, I myself, personally put you in those ranks amongst the best. I have to wholeheartedly agree with you with every one of those names given. I remember , when I first considered winding my first basic coils, coming in this thread and seeing raymo and Crazy Chef specifically, and saying to myself "wow, I'll never be able to do anything close to that." Then later, we have hat-trix, WPMac, mach1ne and all these amazing people mentioned. Now, I have you to thank for not only giving me inspiration to WANT to build, but giving me great advice from spool placement to drill tension and so on. Anybody can be good at something, that's not uncommon. What truly makes someone elite and in that lower percentage is one factor.....humility. That's what I love about all these names mentioned (yourself included), and labeled elite.

Thank you for your compliment and photo advice. That meant allot and made me smile as well. I was pretty proud of this first coil. It is vaping pretty well too, it's got pretty good flavor and it is a cloudy beast LOL. It's in my Lush rda with only half airflow and it's pretty nuts. The camera on my phone has been blurring when I get to close to things taking pics. I'm going to be doing allot of experimentation and trying to figure out a way to make it focus better. I may see if I can find a way to alter the shutter speed. I'm not even sure if it's even possible, but I'll see what I can make it do.

I look forward to getting some other wire gauges and trying some new types of builds. I'm nowhere NEAR done yet. I've gotten excited allot building and chomping at the bit to doing ALLOT more. Maybe one day I'll even come up with a new type of coil. I do that with food allot, so who knows LOL. More to come nonetheless. I will need a ton more wire, a LOT more LOL.

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All you fuckers idolizing me like Im something special....I appreciate the gratitude, but I would like you guys to view me as a peer rather than someone you look up to. Im learning like everyone else and everyone in this thread has learned and advanced far faster than I did...In many ways you all are better than me. Take it to the bank that if you want to do something and you put the time and effort into it - you will succeed...everyone here can say they've done that to varying degrees and its something I dont see in alot of the people around me...they just look to me or someone else to do the smallest task and dont even bother putting in any effort to accomplish the simplest goals.

Ive been pulled away from building and shooting pics for a little while with holidays and politics :gaah: but I am slowly coming back into my routine. I would like to say that CoilWars was great...until I found out that Ghost Vapor was the judge for a round and I tried to explain to OhmBoy and the other builders that it would most likely end with either me exiting or by some miracle he forgot previous interactions with me....Oh Well - You win some and you lose some.
 

midknight420

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All you fuckers idolizing me like Im something special....I appreciate the gratitude, but I would like you guys to view me as a peer rather than someone you look up to. Im learning like everyone else and everyone in this thread has learned and advanced far faster than I did...In many ways you all are better than me. Take it to the bank that if you want to do something and you put the time and effort into it - you will succeed...everyone here can say they've done that to varying degrees and its something I dont see in alot of the people around me...they just look to me or someone else to do the smallest task and dont even bother putting in any effort to accomplish the simplest goals.

Ive been pulled away from building and shooting pics for a little while with holidays and politics :gaah: but I am slowly coming back into my routine. I would like to say that CoilWars was great...until I found out that Ghost Vapor was the judge for a round and I tried to explain to OhmBoy and the other builders that it would most likely end with either me exiting or by some miracle he forgot previous interactions with me....Oh Well - You win some and you lose some.
You prove what I was saying. You are good at your craft and for that sir, I respect you. You also validate my point of humility in this post. Don't worry, it's not that I idolize you, just mad respect brother. Seeing the coils that you and other great builders out here do has inspired me to finally up my game and stop relying on premade coils or pure round wire to get me by. Sure, round wire is fine, but can't hold a candle to a good fused clapton or alien, but you get my point. I look forward to seeing what comes from this inspiration that I've gotten here and progressing in my building experience

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VAPEROXX

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All you fuckers idolizing me like Im something special....I appreciate the gratitude, but I would like you guys to view me as a peer rather than someone you look up to. Im learning like everyone else and everyone in this thread has learned and advanced far faster than I did...In many ways you all are better than me. Take it to the bank that if you want to do something and you put the time and effort into it - you will succeed...everyone here can say they've done that to varying degrees and its something I dont see in alot of the people around me...they just look to me or someone else to do the smallest task and dont even bother putting in any effort to accomplish the simplest goals.

Ive been pulled away from building and shooting pics for a little while with holidays and politics :gaah: but I am slowly coming back into my routine. I would like to say that CoilWars was great...until I found out that Ghost Vapor was the judge for a round and I tried to explain to OhmBoy and the other builders that it would most likely end with either me exiting or by some miracle he forgot previous interactions with me....Oh Well - You win some and you lose some.
@raymo2u, that's why we love you brother!

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
 

Carambrda

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Grip, grip, grip. Rearward drill tension. Lots use sliders, keyrings, or even legos to keep your cores from collapsing. I don't do any of that stuff. If your prep is good, your tension on your drill is good, and your grip on your decore is right, any amount of cores in an Alien coil will practically wrap itself.

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
Prep, prep, prep, and drill speed, drill speed, drill speed. I never apply more tension on anything than just the minimum amount that's necessary to keep it snug so I treat it almost as if it's made from marzipan.
 

Carambrda

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Yes he’s by far the best “coil porn” builder that I’ve spoken to personally although recently he seems to favor “wire art” - small segments of a wire that may or may not be long enough to coil using extremely small gauges to create complex patterns. That’s not to take anything away from his functional building, I know he builds coils with @The_hat_trix. The most impressive coil he does on that particular site from a technical standpoint is the alien stag which many of us have done to some degree or another, but which he does the most consistently and the best. I think the biggest benefit to an alien stag is that you can do it with ribbon wire and round wire or just round wire. I think if you go with the round wire the most comparable coil would be the 5 core alien and if you’re going to do it with ribbon wire you’ve got the fralien. Raymo was actually on the first series coil wars and I found myself rooting for him because I really preferred his builds over his opposition and at this point I had never even conversed with him, in fact I wasn’t even on the this forum at the time. Some people knew me from a much smaller forum. I was one of many builders that disagreed with his elimination from the contest. I wouldn’t say the contest was “rigged” but it was clear that the judges had their prejudices towards certain styles of building at the time. I remember Squidoode was one of the judges and I thought to myself who is Squidoode to judge coil porn? He’s a guy with a 3 coil product line, maybe he was the first to introduce the staple coil. His YouTube series The Art of Building had already become dated. I remember his tutorial on the SSFC and you can actually see his frustration. Part of this was because Squidoode was of the opinion that building freehand was actually and indication of more talent then a swivel builder, which is stupid lol. So the whole point is you’ve got people with this mindset actually judging and it was clear that they didn’t even really understand what they were looking at. So to bring it home I don’t think Raymo really got a fair shake. Never the less he remains humble and often claims anyone could do what he can do if they had the time and his humble nature is probably the thing I respect the most about him.
AFAIK Squidoode is the original creator of not just the staple coil, but of both the SFC and the SSFC also. For me, the final thing that counts is 2 years ago there weren't that many excellent build video tutorials around so, without guys like OhmBoy Josh, OhmboyOC, and Squidoode, heck I'm not so sure I would even be in this thread right now so... as beautiful as coil porn may be, personally, I, find that going for the flavor and feel of the vape still needs to come first so I'm not doing this to impress others, but instead I'm doing this to get a decent fucking vape and to help others get a decent fucking vape. Which isn't to say I don't love the beauty aspect of building. I do, BUT... in the end, if something vapes like shit it still vapes like shit. :giggle:
 

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Sounds like I need to work on the prep work some more. Haven't been using a vice for the drill so maybe I don't have enough tension. Next build I'll load the drill into the vice and see if that helps.
I have never used a vice. Don't even own one. You don't need a ton of tension on your drill side. Just enough to avoid to much slack in your cores while fusing.
All you fuckers idolizing me like Im something special....I appreciate the gratitude, but I would like you guys to view me as a peer rather than someone you look up to.

It's less idolization and more amazement. No matter how hard you try to say otherwise, your skill in this game is in the top of the pack. Yes you've been at this as long as almost anyone around today. But, that's not an excuse to downplay your skill level. As a matter of fact your dedication to the craft is one of the things that make you somebody to look up to. Yes, you are a peer. But, like it or not, you have a standing in the community. And that means your stuck with a showering of praise, to some degree or another. Especially in this community that is dominated by people who tend to lift each other up.

Im learning like everyone else and everyone in this thread has learned and advanced far faster than I did...In many ways you all are better than me. Take it to the bank that if you want to do something and you put the time and effort into it - you will succeed...everyone here can say they've done that to varying degrees and its something I dont see in alot of the people around me...they just look to me or someone else to do the smallest task and dont even bother putting in any effort to accomplish the simplest goals
We all will always be learning until we exit the craft for one reason or another. And this generation of builders ALL advance faster than yours did. We have a plethora of information available to us that you did not. It doesn't mean we are more skilled. It means we already have the groundwork laid for us to build on (PUNS ARE FUN!!).


AFAIK Squidoode is the original creator of not just the staple coil, but of both the SFC and the SSFC also. For me, the final thing that counts is 2 years ago there weren't that many excellent build video tutorials around so, without guys like OhmBoy Josh, OhmboyOC, and Squidoode, heck I'm not so sure I would even be in this thread right now so... as beautiful as coil porn may be, personally, I, find that going for the flavor and feel of the vape still needs to come first so I'm not doing this to impress others, but instead I'm doing this to get a decent fucking vape and to help others get a decent fucking vape. Which isn't to say I don't love the beauty aspect of building. I do, BUT... in the end, if something vapes like shit it still vapes like shit. :giggle:
The thing is that at some point the coil building literally becomes art. Nobody looks at a painting of an apple and is upset that it doesn't taste like an apple. That's kid of the whole premise behind what creative builders do. The majority of the stuff we share is never intended to be vaped. It's intended to be appreciated visually. For many of us the hobby as a whole is more of an artistic outlet than a functional craft. If I only twisted for function I would only be building for 15 mins once every few months. And at that point it's no longer a hobby. Or I would be trying to mass sell my coils and then it's a job.
My hobby isn't building coils to vape ... I create tiny pieces of art with wire. It's a case that the first led to the second. And as an added bonus, even after the hobby eventually fades, I will always have the ability to build what I need.
Also, dood and josh are the two I leanred almost all of my basics from. Love those guys and still think they have some of the best tutorials around.
 

Shredtravolta

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All you fuckers idolizing me like Im something special....I appreciate the gratitude, but I would like you guys to view me as a peer rather than someone you look up to. Im learning like everyone else and everyone in this thread has learned and advanced far faster than I did...In many ways you all are better than me. Take it to the bank that if you want to do something and you put the time and effort into it - you will succeed...everyone here can say they've done that to varying degrees and its something I dont see in alot of the people around me...they just look to me or someone else to do the smallest task and dont even bother putting in any effort to accomplish the simplest goals.

Ive been pulled away from building and shooting pics for a little while with holidays and politics :gaah: but I am slowly coming back into my routine. I would like to say that CoilWars was great...until I found out that Ghost Vapor was the judge for a round and I tried to explain to OhmBoy and the other builders that it would most likely end with either me exiting or by some miracle he forgot previous interactions with me....Oh Well - You win some and you lose some.
Alright “fucker”.
 

VAPEROXX

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Prep, prep, prep, and drill speed, drill speed, drill speed. I never apply more tension on anything than just the minimum amount that's necessary to keep it snug so I treat it almost as if it's made from marzipan.
I couldn't agree more with the prep, prep, prep lol. Drill speed...eh, you get faster with experience and confidence. I spin alien coils of all variations at 1250 rpm (max speed on my 12 volt Ryobi drill).

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
 

Shredtravolta

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All you fuckers idolizing me like Im something special....I appreciate the gratitude, but I would like you guys to view me as a peer rather than someone you look up to. Im learning like everyone else and everyone in this thread has learned and advanced far faster than I did...In many ways you all are better than me. Take it to the bank that if you want to do something and you put the time and effort into it - you will succeed...everyone here can say they've done that to varying degrees and its something I dont see in alot of the people around me...they just look to me or someone else to do the smallest task and dont even bother putting in any effort to accomplish the simplest goals.

Ive been pulled away from building and shooting pics for a little while with holidays and politics :gaah: but I am slowly coming back into my routine. I would like to say that CoilWars was great...until I found out that Ghost Vapor was the judge for a round and I tried to explain to OhmBoy and the other builders that it would most likely end with either me exiting or by some miracle he forgot previous interactions with me....Oh Well - You win some and you lose some.
I might have been a little antagonistic with my last response so allow me to retract that and offer some of my perception. This is a build thread. A lotta people here including myself wanna get better and better at building so we admire the ability of those who are even better then we are capable of being. But at the end of the day it's still a build thread and that's where most of it ends.

I don't think anyone is idolizing your existence. I don't think anyone is creating a religion based around your work. Everything people say about you, is in the context of you as a builder, not a majestic entity. You at one point even created an entire thread, based solely around your builds and only your builds... an entire thread... that you created. So if people are making a really big deal out of your building ability, you kinda created that reaction. If I compliment you by calling you elite, it's not because I want to be you and live your life. I'm very happy with how my own has gone so far. We'd just all like to be able to build a little more like you. And if someone says you're humble, it's because in fairness, you kinda are. And if I had to take a wild guess I'd say your most likely a good guy and I think people just gravitate towards talent.

I know what it is like to have people paying so much attention to you that it almost feels uncomfortable. In my junior year I won the state championship in freestyle wrestling, and while some kids would say wrestling was gay or whatever, you're not likely to walk up to a Heavyweight State Champion and say it to him. It made me too cool for my own comfort with most people and sometimes I just didn't want to be around people. This extrapolated into college wrestling, and professional kickboxing. I never liked the attention to be honest I liked the competition. And the point is not that I'm some big tough guy cause I'm not. I'm extremely sensitive and I'm genuinely scared of every type of confrontation in life to be truly honest with you. I may be trained to not show it but I am.

The point is that I never called anyone names for giving me that attention in my respective fields. I never got annoyed with anyone. When I felt like it was too much I just kinda ignored it. So I in some indirect way understand where you are coming from and what you are saying is valid. But please be nice to us. No one means any harm.:cheers:
 

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This is a 6 core alien. I made a couple of these. 6 cores is about as many round cores as I’d like in an alien. These cores are 28g and the wrap is 36g. You can see these get really wavy. I kinda wish I had binded them with 38g cause I think they could be just a little tighter but they are consistent. I feel like you gotta rip these out in one shot.
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I don’t think sliders are really necessary with these I think you have to stretch the decore enough so it kinda falls into place with very little tension. You also have to keep your angle right cause something about the binding wire loves to back up over itself if you’re not generous enough with the angle. But they are a great vape. Great way to switch things up.
 
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Carambrda

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The thing is that at some point the coil building literally becomes art. Nobody looks at a painting of an apple and is upset that it doesn't taste like an apple. That's kid of the whole premise behind what creative builders do. The majority of the stuff we share is never intended to be vaped. It's intended to be appreciated visually. For many of us the hobby as a whole is more of an artistic outlet than a functional craft. If I only twisted for function I would only be building for 15 mins once every few months. And at that point it's no longer a hobby. Or I would be trying to mass sell my coils and then it's a job.
My hobby isn't building coils to vape ... I create tiny pieces of art with wire. It's a case that the first led to the second. And as an added bonus, even after the hobby eventually fades, I will always have the ability to build what I need.
Also, dood and josh are the two I leanred almost all of my basics from. Love those guys and still think they have some of the best tutorials around.
Of course it's art, but if it doesn't stand a reasonable chance for me to either really love how it vapes or learn from it to be able to achieve a better vape from a future build in one way or another, then I don't even bother trying to build it. So, for me, the core part of my coil building hobby is to experiment in the functional sense whilst at the same time also trying to be on the artistic side in addition to that, so the art is the bonus for me, whereas the flavor and feel of the vape is my primary objective.
 

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Alright “fucker”.
The point is that I never called anyone names for giving me that attention in my respective fields. I never got annoyed with anyone. When I felt like it was too much I just kinda ignored it. So I in some indirect way understand where you are coming from and what you are saying is valid. But please be nice to us. No one means any harm.:cheers:
Can't tell Im from the Northeast yet? :cool::D It's not a means of disrespect, it's as common as "bud" or "Mate" here....local lingo.
I feel that I've carried a friendship with many here in this thread, sorry if I Ieak some of my personality - take it as no disrespect....My manners should be better but it's hard to always remember not everyone understand how text is said and the sentiment behind it. Think "Trailer Park Boys" and that sums up alot of the behavior around here...

Your breakdown is spot on though, I have never had much appreciation or gratitude in my past and Ive never been one to take compliments very well. Its welcomed but it does generate uncomfortable feelings as I dont feel they are deserved. We are only as good as we allow ourselves to be and we all have room for improvement.
 
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Carambrda

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I couldn't agree more with the prep, prep, prep lol. Drill speed...eh, you get faster with experience and confidence. I spin alien coils of all variations at 1250 rpm (max speed on my 12 volt Ryobi drill).

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
Actually no, I got faster because going slow is what causes it to want to flurb... contrary to popular belief, this is what the experienced builders told me and so I only verified that it's true, and, it is. But ~1000rpm already is more than fast enough to prevent it from wanting to flurb, and, adding any kind of weight to your cores will only slow you down so I don't use any sliders, bent paperclips, mini clothespins, key rings, or anything like that because all these things make aliening a lot harder to do instead of making it easier. It's just a simple fact.
 

Carambrda

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and that sums up alot of the behavior around here...
:giggle:

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Of course it's art, but if it doesn't stand a reasonable chance for me to either really love how it vapes or learn from it to be able to achieve a better vape from a future build in one way or another, then I don't even bother trying to build it. So, for me, the core part of my coil building hobby is to experiment in the functional sense whilst at the same time also trying to be on the artistic side in addition to that, so the art is the bonus for me, whereas the flavor and feel of the vape is my primary objective.
Perfect!
I have never had a good pallet for flavor (not just in vape). I can tell you if I like something or not. And I can give you a general idea of what is good about it. But, for the most part, I've never been able to pick up the nuances of why. Plus my tastes change often and dramatically. Something I like might not be enjoyable the next time. So, it's hard for me to take a good build/atty/juice combo and build upon what is good about it for me. This is honestly the major factor that steered me into the world of intricate building. Kind of like a drug addict ... I spent a long time looking for that "first high" of that really great vape. If I spin up identical pairs of coils and use them in the same atty with the same juice it's not ever going to be quite the same from install to install. So chasing my perfect vape is kind of a lost cause. This does, however, open up opportunities to be surprised more often when I do find that elusive spectacular vape.
 

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Perfect!
I have never had a good pallet for flavor (not just in vape). I can tell you if I like something or not. And I can give you a general idea of what is good about it. But, for the most part, I've never been able to pick up the nuances of why. Plus my tastes change often and dramatically. Something I like might not be enjoyable the next time. So, it's hard for me to take a good build/atty/juice combo and build upon what is good about it for me. This is honestly the major factor that steered me into the world of intricate building. Kind of like a drug addict ... I spent a long time looking for that "first high" of that really great vape. If I spin up identical pairs of coils and use them in the same atty with the same juice it's not ever going to be quite the same from install to install. So chasing my perfect vape is kind of a lost cause. This does, however, open up opportunities to be surprised more often when I do find that elusive spectacular vape.
You don't have to be able to pick up the nuances of why you like one vape better than another. Liking how the stuff vapes is what causes me to like vaping so that's my main driving force when it comes to coil building, and, the simple fact that my tastes change often and dramatically is precisely what keeps it so interesting and so challenging for me to always keep trying new functional builds of various many types. Getting the perfect vape is not what I'm after. Instead, it's the exploration and the joy of finding and being able to switch between multiple different vapes that I can choose depending on what juice I think tastes nice on what build/setup, and depending on the mood I'm in. Each time when I find out that my preferences have changed, that's when I switch to something different, as that's just how I avoid the kind of repetitiveness that eventually results in boredom and, ultimately, pure frustration.
 

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This is a 6 core alien. I made a couple of these. 6 cores is about as many round cores as I’d like in an alien. These cores are 28g and the wrap is 36g. You can see these get really wavy. I kinda wish I had binded them with 38g cause I think they could be just a little tighter but they are consistent. I feel like you gotta rip these out in one shot.
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I don’t think sliders are really necessary with these I think you have to stretch the decore enough so it kinda falls into place with very little tension. You also have to keep your angle right cause something about the binding wire loves to back up over itself if you’re not generous enough with the angle. But they are a great vape. Great way to switch things up.

Are you changing direction of your drill after decore? Cause I remember my first few aliens I didn’t and I had to use a lot of forward angle and after I starting flipping I often do slight backward angle
 

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Are you changing direction of your drill after decore? Cause I remember my first few aliens I didn’t and I had to use a lot of forward angle and after I starting flipping I often do slight backward angle
No what you’re saying is correct, I think I just said generous angle, but yes the angle has to be forward you’re 100% right.
 

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That's some interesting but beautiful coil porn going on :)

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Thanks brother! It’s definitely not a build that I’m going to include in the starter package LOL. Could you imagine if you ordered a starter package from someone and you got that thing hehe? You’d be like WTF!!!
 

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Thanks brother! It’s definitely not a build that I’m going to include in the starter package LOL. Could you imagine if you ordered a starter package from someone and you got that thing hehe? You’d be like WTF!!!
Ikr? That is a pretty insane builds though. I would even want to TRY and vape that thing. Can you imagine the amount of power it would take to even consider pushing that coil? LOL

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This is wacky, here’s a 3 core SFC with a alien kinda wrapped around it horizontally.
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Dude that looks like it was a bitch to wrap. But damn you're right that thing is wild!

Hmmm, you've got a staggered build wrapped by an alien build. If you haven't named it yet may I offer " drunken alien" as a suggestion? :D
 

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No what you’re saying is correct, I think I just said generous angle, but yes the angle has to be forward you’re 100% right.

I meant to say that I do slight backward angle. But only if the prestretch is just right and the gauge isn’t really high or the stick really wide (geometry blah blah) I need to try an alien again and see what angle I use now lol I haven made one in a few weeks. I used to make every day
 

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I meant to say that I do slight backward angle. But only if the prestretch is just right and the gauge isn’t really high or the stick really wide (geometry blah blah) I need to try an alien again and see what angle I use now lol I haven made one in a few weeks. I used to make every day
I definitely reverse the direction of the clapton. I’ve honestly never heard of using a backwards angle while doing the final alien wrap. Just because I haven’t heard of it doesn’t necessarily mean anything. I’d say whatever works for you to get a great vape is awesome!
 

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Ikr? That is a pretty insane builds though. I would even want to TRY and vape that thing. Can you imagine the amount of power it would take to even consider pushing that coil? LOL

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Yeah it’s definitely wacky for sure. The wires aren’t super thick so I wonder how the resistance would play out with the mass, but yea I’m with you, not my morning vape either haha.

Dude that looks like it was a bitch to wrap. But damn you're right that thing is wild!

Hmmm, you've got a staggered build wrapped by an alien build. If you haven't named it yet may I offer " drunken alien" as a suggestion? :D

Lol I think drunken alien is a great name! To be honest I will most likely never build it again. Every once in a while you gotta have a little fun what can I say lol?:D
 

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So I’m trying to plan my next build because I don’t build everyday anymore and I wanna do something besides framed staples like ive been doing. I’m thinking 7x.3r SS, 30gx2 SS, 40gx2 KA1 interlock fralien. Trying to land just under .1 ohm duals for a good sub-100 watt regulated build while also being a little fancy.
 

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I havent posted a build here in a little bit, been a bit too busy with life to enjoy myself.

The Reload S RDA stuffed with a Wide Staggerton
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Dotmod DotRda Single with a Basic Staggerton
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I havent posted a build here in a little bit, been a bit too busy with life to enjoy myself.

The Reload S RDA stuffed with a Wide Staggerton
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Dotmod DotRda Single with a Basic Staggerton
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Art...

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Hey you guys, how you doing? Away from VU for a few days. Lots going on in here. Nice.

Thanks @Shredtravolta for the sweet words, but im very far from @raymo2u and @WPMac work - they're elite :) im just a little padawan lol.

And @raymo2u, cool to have you back to the buildings in VU. You rock :)

Here just to post my sunday build, a SSFC, single, in the Warrior RDA. Is vaping nice :)

2*28+12*.3/42

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Hey you guys, how you doing? Away from VU for a few days. Lots going on in here. Nice.

Thanks @Shredtravolta for the sweet words, but im very far from @raymo2u and @WPMac work - they're elite :) im just a little padawan lol.

And @raymo2u, cool to have you back to the buildings in VU. You rock :)

Here just to post my sunday build, a SSFC, single, in the Warrior RDA. Is vaping nice :)

2*28+12*.3/42

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Oh my! :eek:

That is absolutely wicked dude. Very impressive.
 

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Hey you guys, how you doing? Away from VU for a few days. Lots going on in here. Nice.

Thanks @Shredtravolta for the sweet words, but im very far from @raymo2u and @WPMac work - they're elite :) im just a little padawan lol.

And @raymo2u, cool to have you back to the buildings in VU. You rock :)

Here just to post my sunday build, a SSFC, single, in the Warrior RDA. Is vaping nice :)

2*28+12*.3/42

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Stunning photography and clean build bro ;)
 

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Hey you guys, how you doing? Away from VU for a few days. Lots going on in here. Nice.

Thanks @Shredtravolta for the sweet words, but im very far from @raymo2u and @WPMac work - they're elite :) im just a little padawan lol.
OK ... well now it's my turn. Thank you very much for the compliment. But, I don't believe I belong in the elite category. As a matter of fact, as of late, you seem to be kicking my ass. Your work is clean and beautiful. You've been mastering some of the hardest techniques in the game. You are working hard at the craft and it shows.


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Here just to post my sunday build, a SSFC, single, in the Warrior RDA. Is vaping nice :)

2*28+12*.3/42

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Man ... I still think a clean SSFC is one of the best looking coils out there. Gorgeous!
This reminds me ... I need to pulse my hybrid to see what kinda stripes I get.
 

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Trying the double fuse was fun. 34g staggering 40g fuse.
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Hey you guys, how you doing? Away from VU for a few days. Lots going on in here. Nice.

Thanks @Shredtravolta for the sweet words, but im very far from @raymo2u and @WPMac work - they're elite :) im just a little padawan lol.

And @raymo2u, cool to have you back to the buildings in VU. You rock :)

Here just to post my sunday build, a SSFC, single, in the Warrior RDA. Is vaping nice :)

2*28+12*.3/42

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Some seriously beautiful work going on here. One day I hope to be even half the builder you guys are. It's inspiring and a daunting prospect all at the same time.

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OK ... well now it's my turn. Thank you very much for the compliment. But, I don't believe I belong in the elite category. As a matter of fact, as of late, you seem to be kicking my ass. Your work is clean and beautiful. You've been mastering some of the hardest techniques in the game. You are working hard at the craft and it shows.

Man I really appreciate the kind words, especially coming from you, who posts work I admire so often. I would say I’m pretty far from kicking your ass, the last hybrid build you posted was really amazing, it actually inspired me to attempt a hybrid of my own. If it’s not fair to say that you’re elite I’d simply have to say you’re one of my absolute favorite builders on this forum!:cheers:
 

Severinomotta

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Stunning photography and clean build bro ;)
Thanks fam. I’m having a hard time to take my pics, but I’m beginning to get a few nice results :)

And @WPMac , I also a big fan of SSFCs, looking forward to see the color shots of that superb hybrid you made ;)

@St.Roostifer and @midknight420 thanks for the compliments. Some (few) times my builds come out just fine :)

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