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Looks like mine! Vape that bad boy and let us know how it goes!
Mine was finiky about ohms readings. If I turn on the atomizer stats on my Lavabox... the ohms is constantly changing. It is the only RDA or Tank that I have that does that. I have the same clone that you have. One I got it setup now, I have been loving it. Really happy that I have no leakage issues at all! I heard a lot of bad things about them being leaky but thankfully I haven't had to deal with that yet!
I finally received my Griffin RTA so far it has the biggest deck Ive seen on a RTA to date. Its actually slightly bigger (spread further apart) then my Velocity RDA's posts. It dwarfs the Crius and Aromamizers decks by a long shot, builds I used that almost touched the outer chamber would fit between then posts on the Griffin with room to spare....
I built a 2x22K/42N80 Fused Clapton just to see if I could manage fitting something that is the same size as the real rda. I wrapped the wire on a 3mm bit and made 6 wraps (.13 Ohms). The wire slipped into the post holes easily and with enough room for staging wire if I chose to next time. The coil fit perfectly but the wicking would have been a bit tight if I left them at 6 so I dropped a wrap and wicked the build. I felt I didnt use enough cotton as the cotton seemed very loose on the shelf system for it, I decided to leave it and Im glad I did. The cold weather here thickens liquid and using 80/20 liquid doesnt help but the amount of cotton used seems to be working very well for now.
There was a bit of spitback using the tip they provided but after a few draws it was gone. I have it set on 90w and the cotton is slowly breaking in, it has around the same amount of airflow as the Crius and it definitely is a good thing for building coils like these. The experience f using this tank with this setup is the same of my Twisted Messes RDA with the same build in it, now I dont need to drip every few draws and can enjoy it that much more. I suggest everyone that builds jump on this RTA, Fuck the Crius and Fuck the Aromamizer, I spit on that garbage and Im glad companies are releasing products with the same vision just designed around our needs. I cannot wait to compare it to the VCMT 25mm when it arrives soon!
Heres to show what Im talking about...The build in the Griffin is the Same build in the Twisted Messes Mini except the outer wrap is thinner on the TM Mini, try that in a Crius or Aromamizer
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Its been about 4 hours of vaping with this setup and Im not a fan of ramp up time so I tend to use higher wattage to balance the wait out.I broke in the cotton vaping it at 90w for around a half hour or so. I started stepping up the wattage since it took forever to ramp up, first I bumped it up to 110w and it was still a cool-ish vape with 2-2.5 seconds to full tilt and I have had set at 130w for the last 2 hours and I can say this is the highest Ive vaped a RTA and not got a dry hit so far. I dont feel the need to go higher but Im sure it could do 150w easily, I find that insane for a tank with a user made build. Normally with RTAs my builds dont exceed 90w and usually I run them around 70-75w. This RTA is a RDA in every way, it can be turnt' up and gives the identical performance to one of my favorite RDAs including the airflow which most have airflow but getting vapor to be as warm and full will normally lead to dry hits....This is my new favorite tank and Im sure the VCMT wont be much better, I think RTAs will plateau in performance after trying this Griffin....how much better could it get??
I built a 2x22K/42N80 Fused Clapton just to see if I could manage fitting something that is the same size as the real rda. I wrapped the wire on a 3mm bit and made 6 wraps (.13 Ohms). The wire slipped into the post holes easily and with enough room for staging wire if I chose to next time. The coil fit perfectly but the wicking would have been a bit tight if I left them at 6 so I dropped a wrap and wicked the build. I felt I didnt use enough cotton as the cotton seemed very loose on the shelf system for it, I decided to leave it and Im glad I did. The cold weather here thickens liquid and using 80/20 liquid doesnt help but the amount of cotton used seems to be working very well for now.
There was a bit of spitback using the tip they provided but after a few draws it was gone. I have it set on 90w and the cotton is slowly breaking in, it has around the same amount of airflow as the Crius and it definitely is a good thing for building coils like these. The experience f using this tank with this setup is the same of my Twisted Messes RDA with the same build in it, now I dont need to drip every few draws and can enjoy it that much more. I suggest everyone that builds jump on this RTA, Fuck the Crius and Fuck the Aromamizer, I spit on that garbage and Im glad companies are releasing products with the same vision just designed around our needs. I cannot wait to compare it to the VCMT 25mm when it arrives soon!
Heres to show what Im talking about...The build in the Griffin is the Same build in the Twisted Messes Mini except the outer wrap is thinner on the TM Mini, try that in a Crius or Aromamizer
Update:
Its been about 4 hours of vaping with this setup and Im not a fan of ramp up time so I tend to use higher wattage to balance the wait out.I broke in the cotton vaping it at 90w for around a half hour or so. I started stepping up the wattage since it took forever to ramp up, first I bumped it up to 110w and it was still a cool-ish vape with 2-2.5 seconds to full tilt and I have had set at 130w for the last 2 hours and I can say this is the highest Ive vaped a RTA and not got a dry hit so far. I dont feel the need to go higher but Im sure it could do 150w easily, I find that insane for a tank with a user made build. Normally with RTAs my builds dont exceed 90w and usually I run them around 70-75w. This RTA is a RDA in every way, it can be turnt' up and gives the identical performance to one of my favorite RDAs including the airflow which most have airflow but getting vapor to be as warm and full will normally lead to dry hits....This is my new favorite tank and Im sure the VCMT wont be much better, I think RTAs will plateau in performance after trying this Griffin....how much better could it get??
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interesting quad set up. how does having two different coils work?
but i just got mine. Youre saying its already obsolete?!?Sent from my LG-H811 using Tapatalk
Bah! Small build deck but I like mine. Great flavor! Can't wait to get my velocity rdta!but i just got mine. Youre saying its already obsolete?!?
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Im gonna get one of those for sure but i think ill take a look at the griffin now too
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I love my areomizer and I have both decks only have ever used the velocity
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I hated both the Crius and the Aromamizer after using them a day each, I went back to my TFV4 with TF-R2 rba...I didnt like them due to their small decks, small chamber and crappy designs and dryhits seem to plague them both and I didnt trust them to go outside in the cold. Grab a Griffin, you will not turn back. The Crius was great when I got the wicking perfect but if I wasnt constantly using it I somehow would burn the cotton and have to rewick, the Aromamizer I had to mod the crap out of just for decent results...no more, I havent had to do anything but make and install coils and then use it. No stripped set screws this time around, no leaking or finicky issues...The only thing I could imagine complaining about is that the AFC ring isnt as tight as I like it (I like them hard to turn) but I could always wrap a 36g wire between the base and AFC ring to tighten it up.
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That Griffen does look nice. I will report in the velocity rdta when I get it. How much is that Griffen?
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I paid $29 for it with a coupon but they run from 30-40 depending on where you look. I saw that that Velocity RTDA Genny tank, the only problem I have with those is gravity...it pulls down not up and having juice travel upwards doesnt seem like the best way to have it...They should have had a juice chamber above the posts and have it so your wick goes up into it, we already have wicking issues with gravity helping pull juice to the wick...This is the only reason why I didnt purchase it but please report back about how it ends up being when you get it. I think the Griffin or VCMT are peoples best bet at getting the perfect experience out of a RTA with Velocity deck, a true builders RTA. I have high expectations for my soon to arrive 25mm VCMT, my guess its a 25mm version of the Griffin-Which I already wished the Griffin was 25mm. Tanks seem too small now since Im so used to the TFV4 as my everyday tank...
I have a Snow Wolf Crimson Mini arriving tomorrow and I think that my Crius will sit on it with a .5-.8 Ohm build and My SW200 Crimson will carry the Griffin...like a Mini Me setup
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I designed(yea right) them so that the tops heat up a tad faster so they all go dry at the same time. My only problem is they are a snug fit in the atty3 so it's a warm vape
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Yeah, that bottom juice well is the only thing that made me hesitant to buy it. Then I thought, bah, gonna try it anyway and see how it goes. My guess is that I will need to use long wicks down to the well if possible to stave of the dry hits. Time will tell!I paid $29 for it with a coupon but they run from 30-40 depending on where you look. I saw that that Velocity RTDA Genny tank, the only problem I have with those is gravity...it pulls down not up and having juice travel upwards doesnt seem like the best way to have it...They should have had a juice chamber above the posts and have it so your wick goes up into it, we already have wicking issues with gravity helping pull juice to the wick...This is the only reason why I didnt purchase it but please report back about how it ends up being when you get it. I think the Griffin or VCMT are peoples best bet at getting the perfect experience out of a RTA with Velocity deck, a true builders RTA. I have high expectations for my soon to arrive 25mm VCMT, my guess its a 25mm version of the Griffin-Which I already wished the Griffin was 25mm. Tanks seem too small now since Im so used to the TFV4 as my everyday tank...
I have a Snow Wolf Crimson Mini arriving tomorrow and I think that my Crius will sit on it with a .5-.8 Ohm build and My SW200 Crimson will carry the Griffin...like a Mini Me setup
I do want that mutation rta. You could take a nap on that deck!
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My friend owns the Mutation MU Tank and I was interested in it at first then after all the velocity style rta's I didnt see the need for it. Less room for coils to fit and the wicking channels I think are much too big for what you can fit in it and may cause unneeded leaking.
Have you checked out the Gekkvape Advacado? Similar design but looks much higher quality, same people that make the Griffin makes it also..
If you have seen Pbusardo's "which wicking material" video you will understand what I mean by its a poor design for the juice to travel up the wick to the coils. It took almost 12+ hours for his liquid to travel a few inches to soak some paper and that was with the best material...If you get it and have issues I would drill out the holes more so the cotton can be fluffed while in that chamber, it will leak if toppled or sat on its side but will fix the issues, you could cut a good sized oval out and fill it with cotton so the bottom of the deck is always saturated cotton and the cotton that you wick with wont have to pull liquid from very far.....
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Just some basic fused claptons. 
Twin 26 core wraped with 30 at 5 wraps sittin at .2 ohms. Flavora great and clouds like crazy. Its lovin 150w
Twin 26 core wraped with 30 at 5 wraps sittin at .2 ohms. Flavora great and clouds like crazy. Its lovin 150w
How loose or tight do I need to twist to make a good bone yard coil?
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I couldn't decide whether I want to make some aliens or try to make some framed staple coils, so I figured I'd dive in and try some framed staple aliens
6x.5k framed with 26k wrapped in 38n80 no clue on resistance but they should be too low as duals for any batteries. Stacking the ribbon sucked but not as much as using 38 to wrap it. I'll try 36 next which should be easier.
Any tips on coiling these? I used a vice but they still came out pretty uneven, I'm guessing it's another thing that makes ribbon hard to work with?
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6x.5k framed with 26k wrapped in 38n80 no clue on resistance but they should be too low as duals for any batteries. Stacking the ribbon sucked but not as much as using 38 to wrap it. I'll try 36 next which should be easier.
Any tips on coiling these? I used a vice but they still came out pretty uneven, I'm guessing it's another thing that makes ribbon hard to work with?
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According to Steam Engine, 4.5 wraps @2.5mm ID they are ~0.144Ω
Other (or rather, in my case) than a vise, this tool from UD works fantastic on "heavy metal" coils
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Thanks for the steam engine, how'd you plug in all that wire, is the site different than on mobile? And I really should pick one up, your the second person to recommend that to me.According to Steam Engine, 4.5 wraps @2.5mm ID they are ~0.144Ω
Other (or rather, in my case) than a vise, this tool from UD works fantastic on "heavy metal" coils"
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I have the coil master set but I will probably pick these up as I like that slot versus the tiny hole. I normally just hold the leg and wrap. I originally got the kit just for the different size pins and I got it on a deal for $3 from gearbest with my xcube II.According to Steam Engine, 4.5 wraps @2.5mm ID they are ~0.144Ω
Other (or rather, in my case) than a vise, this tool from UD works fantastic on "heavy metal" coils"
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Wire Wizard --> Clapton --> Parallel Core, + sign to add additional core wires
I like the CoilMaster set for regular size wire configurations, but the UD is great for larger wires that don't fit in the CoilMaster jig hole.
Okay,that helps a ton, my app version doesn't have that
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Lol okay I found it, I can't believe I've missed it all this time... Man I could've used this months ago
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Polished 26G N80 paralleled w/ 28//40g Fused Claptons. Clocked in at .15Ω for the set. I started a separate IG for my vaping nonsense, so forgive the watermarks
Okay guys, I'm pretty torn, I want to vape these crappy framed stapled aliens because they took forever but they'll clock in way out of my comfort zone at around .07-.09 for duals. It'll be running on a parallel MOSFET mech box with my 25rs
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I'm going to try it, but hate singles with a passion, it messes with my ocd in ways I can't describe, oh and the twisted messes doesn't vape very well with singles for me, that chamber is gigantic. Well see, 50 amps is a hell of a draw for those Samsung's.Team single coil then
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Giggity... Sorry, i'll go now
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I wondered if someone would bite on that. Well played sir!
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Added an extra quarter wrap to each and kept the legs as long as possible, ohm'd out between .08-.09 on my meter and devices- none of which will fire them lol. Only 10 amps above my amp limit but scared the hell out of me firing it. Pleasant vape though, Ill be building more of these.
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Tiny ass build deck! Not sure I want to build for mine? I used the coils they supplied, wired them in vertically. Now after seeing the griffen, I want one of those!!Really?
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Dual fused Claptons - STAT!
ORDER UP!!!
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Fused Clapton-Velocity Clone(new)
26g NiCr/34g A1
7 wraps 3mm
.22 ohms
this stuff is starting to get tricky. there are a few gaps in the wraps that i let go. i'm having issues with 1)swivels not cooperating, 2)keeping everything spinning on center with no wobbling 3),being able to see anything with my old eyes. the first is easily solved with a trip to the angling store, the second with a wire twisting jig that i'm going to make, and finally i'll get a jeweler's headband. i have one of those big magnifying lights, but it doesn't move with my hands, lol.
and expensive!! as quickly that i got into a groove, i'm be probably be hitting the brakes. 50 feet rolls of wire from a B/M is killing me. it was great for getting started, but is far from being cost effective. i'll be placing a short term order with Koiler or Kidneypuncher, and then a long term order with Temco.
and to think, that i haven't even been free of the death darts for a month yet!!! i've traded a habit for an addiction, lol.
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Some parallel 24ka1 staged with 22n80. Came in at .11ohm on a 3mm bit.
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Finally got my 38G N80. Excited to start with some smaller wire. 34 being the stuff I've used for the last while. Probably going to do up some FC's with 28G Ka1 as cores. Hopefully .4-.5 for my Noisy Cricket. Woo hoo!
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do you have a link for these?
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Throw this here to.
24/34 fused clapton.
3mm ID .14ohm
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24/34 fused clapton.
3mm ID .14ohm
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Throw this here to.
24/34 fused clapton.
3mm ID .14ohm
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Nice I'm running the exact same build in mt TM running at .16 ohms. It is amazing at 120 watts.
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Running at 130 on my mutation xl and 120 in the atty3 lol yes I like this build alot!
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Eta the mutation build has another wrap that's why the extra power
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That's very clean!
The only thing I would say would be do 1 less wrap so it fits on the deck easier for you as long as it keeps your resistance high enough for your needs
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24k boneyard. First attempt at this and first attempt with hammering wire.
3mm at 6 wraps in the Indestructible.
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3mm at 6 wraps in the Indestructible.
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Thanks
Yeah I agree about losing a wrap. It may have been easier to center. BTW I was wondering if I put the lower lead in the positive post would that make for a cleaner center? Is there a rule of thumb for which goes where?
1.83 ID .2ish ohm
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How's she vape? And also. I really like that deck design.24k boneyard. First attempt at this and first attempt with hammering wire.
3mm at 6 wraps in the Indestructible.
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As far as a rule of thumb I always say whatever works good for you lol. Some people bend the legs of their coils first. Others like myself just use the screwdriver they wrap on to push the coils toward the center. You'll find what works best for you the more you build.
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First attempt at alien wire ever
Looks a bit gnarly... when i managed to work the hot spots out of it, ended up somehow bumping into the control and some plastic melted on it rendering it useless.... gotta get some thinner wire to work with cause this mammer jammer ohmed out real low (.17) and way more wraps than i enjoy... anyway, next time
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Looks a bit gnarly... when i managed to work the hot spots out of it, ended up somehow bumping into the control and some plastic melted on it rendering it useless.... gotta get some thinner wire to work with cause this mammer jammer ohmed out real low (.17) and way more wraps than i enjoy... anyway, next time
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