It is not merely a ploy to crush those who are gifted though,
That's why I said that schools kill creativity. I didn't say that it is merely a ploy to crush those who are gifted. Nobody has said that that's what it is. At least not on here. As far as I'm aware of.
as much as you may continue to rehash that as a motive.
Where do you see me rehashing that as a motive? I did not even bring that up in any way, let alone rehash that as a motive. Is there a motive? The educational system uses powerful motives no doubt, and ones that aren't necessarily always perfect, but personally, I, don't see why you'd think I "continue to rehash that as a motive" re those who are gifted.
This "ploy" also crushes wonder, awe, exploration of inner city kids that could do alright being humble gas station attendants, janitors, nurses, mechanics, secretaries and clerks.
I never denied that. Only tried to point out that it is still happening despite there has been a little bit of a paradigm shift in recent years, notably when it comes to gifted children, albeit not anywhere near notably enough if you ask me─as they're still too often insisting that an IQ test can be used to "prove", beyond reasonale doubt, a given person can NOT be gifted... which is another classic example of discrimination resulting from poor, or "sazzled", scientific theory: a misinterpretation of science by so-called "experts" who couldn't produce an ounce of science. That's simply because IQ tests are fundamentally flawed in the particular sense that they can only be used to show the presence of intelligence, not to prove the absence thereof.
And, to be perfectly clear, I am in no way trying to insinuate that higly intelligent or gifted (the latter is not the same as highly intelligent, as all gifted persons are highly intelligent, but not all highly intelligent persons are gifted...) also means that this is what makes a person superior. It doesn't, and, that also is why I never said that it does. Furthermore, there is no real diagnosis that would separate people into these types of "groups" or "categories". I'm no separatist, nor am trying to be. There are recognizable criteria, and that can also be demonstrated with rigorous scientific evidence and careful statistical analysis, but these specific criteria all form a continuum of multi-dimensional spectra. So it's not a white or black, yes/no typical kind of affair. There can be only indications. That's why the label needs to go. Another reason why there can be no real diagnosis is because it's not a disorder. Yet, despite this, many of the indicators pointing toward "gifted" are the same or are highly similar to ones that are part of the diagnosis of disorders such as ADD/ADHD, and some others.
These are not "gifted" children but those who are average by all accounts.
No. Many of gifted children still either are not recognized as gifted or fall victim to misdiagnosis and dual diagnoses... also keep in mind the observation that a lot of gifted adults are not aware that gifted is what they are, many of them never discover it or discover it only after they get old, and, for reasons that are obvious, that also implies that there's an even greater number of gifted children who are not aware that gifted is what they are. Saying that these are not gifted is the same exact prejudice that I was referring to in my post, and why the label has to go.
They have no grand dreams to aspire to as they're aware mediocre is mainstream.
Incorrect. Being gifted does not guarantee being successful nor guarantees the opposite of being successful. No matter still, a lot of persons who are gifted are experiencing serious difficulties with mental depression, addiction, etc..
They only want to live, get by because that's all that is granted for them.
Now you are merely being a true pessimist. This is not how happiness factually works, as there is no reason to assume that having a different role to fulfill in life automatically translates to mediocrity. Again, gifted persons are not superior because they are gifted, and, persons who are not, or are less likely to be gifted are not inferior because they don't meet the criteria enough to be recognized as gifted. Again, this is THE important reason why the label needs to go. It's called Prejudice with a capital letter 'P'.
Yet the education system even kills the most meager desire for banal.
Believe you me, many persons who are gifted are constantly wishing they were exactly that which you now describe as banal. Some are wanting to commit suicide over it... seriously.
As much as it does this to inner city kids, so to does it to rural kids. It doesn't matter, it is indiscriminate in who it destroys as a child.
Yes and no. If the gifted child has a parent or close family member who, for example, happens to be gifted also, and the gifted child receives the type of emotional support in an environment where suitable educational stimuli are presented, encouraged, nourished, then no, often times it tends to be not so indiscriminate, but inner city kids vs rural kids is another subject the statistical analysis details of which I'm not going to try to delve into.
You're correct though it also crushes the gifted. It isn't crushing only the gifted though. The gifted are only brought along for the ride.
So much is obvious. But for those brought along for the ride, in many cases the negative impact has been being noticeably more severe nonetheless, and, before anyone should ask, no, that is not just an opinion.
Ultimately the aim boils down to keeping a sated public, maintaining that ever popular illusion, control.
<sarcasm>I mean we can just say fuck leadership by example, no? There's no way holding people to account, and instilling personal responsibility could ever result in a better society is there? Nope, not at all, I'm sure. Fuck no, everyone is a victim. Nobody wants to not be a victim. That means being fucking mature and shit. Fuck that right to Hell.</sarcasm>
Not to be seen as hypocritical or tossing excuses. I can admit and allow that yes there are elements beyond people's control individually. Yes, that can and does happen.
Still, you can choose to fold, or go on and make the best hand you can from the cards you get dealt. It's a choice we each need to make, only we ourselves can make that choice.
If you fold, fine, get up and walk away from the table not looking back. Go do your own shit but don't expect others to follow or give out pity parties. Life knows not pity. Life is fair but objectively so. We have no concept of life's fairness, ergo we whine it's not fair.
Yeah, fuck that. Control what you can, make the best of any situation, remember we all die. Gee, sounds like my sig line here. D'oh. It's called being Stoic.
Nope. Remarks like these are not called that. Rather, they're called being Immoral... with a capital letter 'I'.
