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[nadalama]

That's why I said that schools kill creativity. I didn't say that it is merely a ploy to crush those who are gifted. Nobody has said that that's what it is. At least not on here. As far as I'm aware of.

Where do you see me rehashing that as a motive? I did not even bring that up in any way, let alone rehash that as a motive. Is there a motive? The educational system uses powerful motives no doubt, and ones that aren't necessarily always perfect, but personally, I, don't see why you'd think I "continue to rehash that as a motive" re those who are gifted.

I never denied that. Only tried to point out that it is still happening despite there has been a little bit of a paradigm shift in recent years, notably when it comes to gifted children, albeit not anywhere near notably enough if you ask me─as they're still too often insisting that an IQ test can be used to "prove", beyond reasonale doubt, a given person can NOT be gifted... which is another classic example of discrimination resulting from poor, or "sazzled", scientific theory: a misinterpretation of science by so-called "experts" who couldn't produce an ounce of science. That's simply because IQ tests are fundamentally flawed in the particular sense that they can only be used to show the presence of intelligence, not to prove the absence thereof.

And, to be perfectly clear, I am in no way trying to insinuate that higly intelligent or gifted (the latter is not the same as highly intelligent, as all gifted persons are highly intelligent, but not all highly intelligent persons are gifted...) also means that this is what makes a person superior. It doesn't, and, that also is why I never said that it does. Furthermore, there is no real diagnosis that would separate people into these types of "groups" or "categories". I'm no separatist, nor am trying to be. There are recognizable criteria, and that can also be demonstrated with rigorous scientific evidence and careful statistical analysis, but these specific criteria all form a continuum of multi-dimensional spectra. So it's not a white or black, yes/no typical kind of affair. There can be only indications. That's why the label needs to go. Another reason why there can be no real diagnosis is because it's not a disorder. Yet, despite this, many of the indicators pointing toward "gifted" are the same or are highly similar to ones that are part of the diagnosis of disorders such as ADD/ADHD, and some others.

No. Many of gifted children still either are not recognized as gifted or fall victim to misdiagnosis and dual diagnoses... also keep in mind the observation that a lot of gifted adults are not aware that gifted is what they are, many of them never discover it or discover it only after they get old, and, for reasons that are obvious, that also implies that there's an even greater number of gifted children who are not aware that gifted is what they are. Saying that these are not gifted is the same exact prejudice that I was referring to in my post, and why the label has to go.

Incorrect. Being gifted does not guarantee being successful nor guarantees the opposite of being successful. No matter still, a lot of persons who are gifted are experiencing serious difficulties with mental depression, addiction, etc..

Now you are merely being a true pessimist. This is not how happiness factually works, as there is no reason to assume that having a different role to fulfill in life automatically translates to mediocrity. Again, gifted persons are not superior because they are gifted, and, persons who are not, or are less likely to be gifted are not inferior because they don't meet the criteria enough to be recognized as gifted. Again, this is THE important reason why the label needs to go. It's called Prejudice with a capital letter 'P'.

Believe you me, many persons who are gifted are constantly wishing they were exactly that which you now describe as banal. Some are wanting to commit suicide over it... seriously.

Yes and no. If the gifted child has a parent or close family member who, for example, happens to be gifted also, and the gifted child receives the type of emotional support in an environment where suitable educational stimuli are presented, encouraged, nourished, then no, often times it tends to be not so indiscriminate, but inner city kids vs rural kids is another subject the statistical analysis details of which I'm not going to try to delve into.

So much is obvious. But for those brought along for the ride, in many cases the negative impact has been being noticeably more severe nonetheless, and, before anyone should ask, no, that is not just an opinion.

Nope. Remarks like these are not called that. Rather, they're called being Immoral... with a capital letter 'I'.

I broke my own rule and read this post, and I'm really glad I did.

Just a few simple things. A teacher, a relative, even a coworker, ONE, and the RIGHT ONE, can make or break the giftedness of a child, or for that matter, a person of nearly any age.

I don't have the language to continue this conversation in the league in which it was begun, but will say that I know some things are true because of personal experience.

I am somewhere on a continuum, just like everyone else is somewhere on that continuum, and I also cannot express WHERE. But this I know. My own curiosity, any uniqueness and ability to think and reason that I have, was not encouraged by my birth family. They were incapable. But inspiration and freedom and belief in oneself can come from the strangest places.

Oh my god the power of just standing in the right place, at the right time. When people are lucky we can rejoice. When they are not, it is so, so tragic.

I would truly appreciate avoiding a contentious response here. My life is turned upside down lately by family matters and I am not up to it. Just wanted to contribute a little and sincerely thank you for your post.

 

[Carambrda]

I broke my own rule and read this post, and I'm really glad I did.

I dunno why you broke your own rule. Perhaps it's because you need to be taught more discipline... some ritalin might help... J/K.

Just a few simple things. A teacher, a relative, even a coworker, ONE, and the RIGHT ONE, can make or break the giftedness of a child, or for that matter, a person of nearly any age.

The giftedness of a person is congenital (and genetically inheritable, at least in part) in the particular sense that it is clearly visible in early childhood (the asynchronous development, the being noticeably ahead of peers e.g. skipping the crawl phase or starting to talk at a much earlier age than the average infant, the─seemingly obsessive─forward-thinking like you'd expect in a chess game, and etc.), and can only be sustained by not breaking the person. The gifted child needs to be nourished differently than most children, and, many (but certainly not all) of gifted children are deprived as a result from this specific personal need, which is a total shame, obviously, as the deprivation more often than not creates serious problems that tend to persist into adulthood and have lifetime consequences a lot of which turn out to be negative. But the giftedness can not be broken any other way than by breaking the person, which would be in many ways similar to what would happen to a person when one attempts to break the person's gender and/or the person's sexual orientation. The being gifted is an intrinsic part of who they are. Like I previously said, there are a lot of enormously widespread misconceptions about gifted. The vast majority of people just assume that gifted means you're smart and capable to do anything so that you'll never have any significant problems, and you'll always be successful in life. The harsh reality is that, yes, there are gifted persons who are successful, but no, an awful lot of those who are gifted are in serious trouble.

I don't have the language to continue this conversation in the league in which it was begun, but will say that I know some things are true because of personal experience.

I am somewhere on a continuum, just like everyone else is somewhere on that continuum, and I also cannot express WHERE. But this I know. My own curiosity, any uniqueness and ability to think and reason that I have, was not encouraged by my birth family. They were incapable.

Same here.

But inspiration and freedom and belief in oneself can come from the strangest places.

True. Yet, despite this, many of gifted persons tend to sabotage theirself and keep searching for meaning so they never finish what they start, have low self esteem and do not think they're smart, are easily frustrated or bored, and experience severe difficulties with social interactions and feel they are alone, and, this is still a purely objective observation... it is just a fact.

Oh my god the power of just standing in the right place, at the right time. When people are lucky we can rejoice. When they are not, it is so, so tragic.

I would truly appreciate avoiding a contentious response here. My life is turned upside down lately by family matters and I am not up to it. Just wanted to contribute a little and sincerely thank you for your post.

Contentiousness or abrasiveness is not seldom only a perception that is based purely on difference of opinion, a mere sign of briskness or temperament, if not mere sarcasm. It's not truly irrational behavior because, instead, it tends to be more like a personality trait such as extravert (or pseudo-extravert) kind of directness, and/or being intense, which can get confusing especially when at the same time also having an odd sense of humor to tackle. Don't let those perceptions get a hold of you, don't take it all too personal, and, I hope you and your family will find support, and strength, and that you will support each other.

 

[hellcatrydr]

who wants to wallow in the mud with the pigs?

Your hatred of America is sad. Always mocking those who love her.
Here's a video Karen.

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[MyMagicMist]

Where do you see me rehashing that as a motive? I did not even bring that up in any way, let alone rehash that as a motive. Is there a motive? The educational system uses powerful motives no doubt, and ones that aren't necessarily always perfect, but personally, I, don't see why you'd think I "continue to rehash that as a motive" re those who are gifted.

Where do you see me rehashing that as a motive?

Gee not the quote below for sure.

This is not how happiness factually works, as there is no reason to assume that having a different role to fulfill in life automatically translates to mediocrity. Again, gifted persons are not superior because they are gifted, and, persons who are not, or are less likely to be gifted are not inferior because they don't meet the criteria enough to be recognized as gifted. Again, this is THE important reason why the label needs to go. It's called Prejudice with a capital letter 'P'.

So you then keep abashing those who are gifted this prejudice by citing all the negativity surrounding the label? You use it as a slur?

Now you are merely being a true pessimist. This is not how happiness factually works, as there is no reason to assume that having a different role to fulfill in life automatically translates to mediocrity.

No it's still being Stoic as I'm aware that many welcome mediocrity and are happy in it. I'm not belittling these "different roles" even though you construed I was doing so. I'm just saying that public government subsidized education makes it so that everyone is mediocre, weather that makes the individual happy or not. And yes that is its ploy in order to maintain control.

Why have an informed public, or one that can think for itself? They'll likely demand better government, we the current government will be out of jobs, out of power.

The government does not want individuals capable of critical thought or having an ability to be informed. Why not? Because then people wholesale would oust government, possibly make it irrelevant as is seeming to happen anyway. It takes away the government's power.

American education is anything but an education. You can see that in the politician's responses to direct questions, many requiring only yes or no responses. You'll get wrung around the bushes before you, if ever, get a straight answer.

"Oh, it's a more complicated question than yes, or no."

"Fuck all, I just asked if you wanted pizza for lunch."

They obfuscate everything behind a veneer of bullshit and lies all to avoid answering a thing. No one cares though because we've learned to expect that, because we've been educated to the point of stupidity. As George Carlin suggests "the government gets what it pays for in education."

What I'm saying is this effects everyone not any one group, or any one place. You'll see it in any country that lets government have any say over education.

 

[The Cromwell]

Your hatred of America is sad. Always mocking those who love her.
Here's a video Karen.

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Not hatred, just realism.
I try to live in the real world not a fantasy one.

The USA is NOT number 1 in everything, not in a lot of things actually.
And some of the things we are number one in are things not to be proud of.

 

[Carambrda]

Gee not the quote below for sure.

I still fail to see any kind of motive in the part you quoted.

So you then keep abashing those who are gifted this prejudice by citing all the negativity surrounding the label? You use it as a slur?

No, I have never abashed those who are gifted, nor have used the label as a slur in any way. The prejudice I was referring to is the result of persistent, widespread, misconceptions about what the term "gifted" means, and, it seems to me that you still haven't read up on that subject, even in the slightest, because else you would have perfectly understood how this is true.

No it's still being Stoic as I'm aware that many welcome mediocrity and are happy in it. I'm not belittling these "different roles" even though you construed I was doing so.

I call serious BS. By calling it mediocrity you already are belittling them, anyway in the first place, when the reality is that there is absolutely nothing mediocre about them.

I'm just saying that public government subsidized education makes it so that everyone is mediocre,

I call even more serious BS.

weather that makes the individual happy or not. And yes that is its ploy in order to maintain control.

You lost me there. You call yourself stoic, yet, within only moments after that, you try to complain about the system being stoic in order to maintain control? Sweet chocolate son of a father, man!

Why have an informed public, or one that can think for itself? They'll likely demand better government, we the current government will be out of jobs, out of power.

The government does not want individuals capable of critical thought or having an ability to be informed. Why not? Because then people wholesale would oust government, possibly make it irrelevant as is seeming to happen anyway. It takes away the government's power.

You are seeing ghosts. Possibly also hearing voices.

American education is anything but an education. You can see that in the politician's responses to direct questions, many requiring only yes or no responses. You'll get wrung around the bushes before you, if ever, get a straight answer.

I am in Europe. Who gives a flying fuck about America anyway? J/K...

"Oh, it's a more complicated question than yes, or no."

"Fuck all, I just asked if you wanted pizza for lunch."

Yes, please. Pizza would definitely be great, but only if they don't put broccoli on it... broccoli is pure evil.

They obfuscate everything behind a veneer of bullshit and lies all to avoid answering a thing. No one cares though because we've learned to expect that, because we've been educated to the point of stupidity. As George Carlin suggests "the government gets what it pays for in education."

What I'm saying say is this effects everyone not any one group, or any one place. You'll see it in any country that lets government have any say over education.

An educational system can never be perfect. But that doesn't also mean an effort can not be made to try and make it a better system. If youse muricans don't like your gov't, then just vote like us Belgians because, then, they'll no longer be able to make a gov't... problem immediately solved.

 

[MyMagicMist]

I call serious BS. By calling it mediocrity you already are belittling them, anyway in the first place, when the reality is that there is absolutely nothing mediocre about them.

Stating mediocrity exists is not belittling, only stating an obvious fact.

You are seeing ghosts. Possibly also hearing voices.

I do believe that spirits exist. Do I believe science and reason can explain much of what is dubbed supernatural away? Yes. I also contend though there is an element of which cannot be explained away. Granted it is minimal but to say it doesn't exist due to being a small sampling is not correct.

Yes, please. Pizza would definitely be great, but only if they don't put broccoli on it... broccoli is pure evil.

Right, I would definitely make or order a pizza full of broccoli expressly for you. Yes, yes indeed I would. Ha!

If youse muricans don't like your gov't, then just vote like us Belgians because, then, they'll no longer be able to make a gov't... problem immediately solved.

Not sure how you voted. Thought I read somewhere y'all went from parliamentary to anarchy, though I may be wrong. I'd like the U.S. to bring in the vote of no confidence and then be able to keep government out of issues at times. That's seemingly doubtful to ever happen.


The voices I hear are not delusions, or mental health related issues, thank you. I also hear physically audible voices of living people. So what if i hear voices? Trying to infer there's something negative in that? There's not inherently.

 

[ej1024]

THIS WORLD IS A MESS!!!
Stay safe out there!

 

[The Cromwell]

THIS WORLD IS A MESS!!!
Stay safe out there!

You too.

 

[The Cromwell]

(Reuters) - A majority of U.S. states have rejected new ***** administration COVID-19 testing guidance in an extraordinary rebuke of the nation’s top agency for disease prevention, according to officials at state health agencies and public statements reviewed by Reuters.

At least 33 states continue to recommend testing people who have been exposed to COVID-19 and have no symptoms, spurning guidance published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) this week that said testing may be unnecessary. Sixteen states did not immediately respond to requests for comment and North Dakota said it had not made a decision.
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These new guidelines will do nothing to find and quarantine asymptomatic cases. Which will increase the spread of the virus.
And of course will drop the overall infection count, which seems to be the objective.
If adhered to would also dramatically raise the positivity rate.
Would not drop the death rate and would likely cause it to raise. Because of fewer people carrying the virus being identified.

In short it is a big step backwards in fighting the virus.

 

[MyMagicMist]

(Reuters) - A majority of U.S. states have rejected new ***** administration COVID-19 testing guidance in an extraordinary rebuke of the nation’s top agency for disease prevention, according to officials at state health agencies and public statements reviewed by Reuters.

At least 33 states continue to recommend testing people who have been exposed to COVID-19 and have no symptoms, spurning guidance published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) this week that said testing may be unnecessary. Sixteen states did not immediately respond to requests for comment and North Dakota said it had not made a decision.
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These new guidelines will do nothing to find and quarantine asymptomatic cases. Which will increase the spread of the virus.
And of course will drop the overall infection count, which seems to be the objective.
If adhered to would also dramatically raise the positivity rate.
Would not drop the death rate and would likely cause it to raise. Because of fewer people carrying the virus being identified.

In short it is a big step backwards in fighting the virus.

There ain't no fightin' stupid with stupid. Stupid always gonna win.

 

[Vape Fan]

1. These new guidelines will do nothing to find and quarantine
2. asymptomatic cases. Which will increase the spread of the virus.
3. And of course will drop the overall infection count, which seems to be the objective.
4. If adhered to would also dramatically raise the positivity rate.
5. Would not drop the death rate and would likely cause it to raise. Because of fewer people carrying the virus being identified.

1. So what do you propose? Anything?...or just preaching darkness. Quarantine all asymptomatic? What about pre-asymptomatic? Test everyone and put them all in one place so they don't transmit to anyone else? Make them stay home and distance and post a guard?
2 and 4 are the same. You say it WILL increase the spread and DRAMATICALLY raise the rate. That's not 100% true. Look at Az, Fla too and I didn't look at them all. The number of cases and deaths are and have been going down without testing everyone. chart
3. You mean like, there's an ulterior motive? What would that be?
5. See 2

I don't think testing everyone will fix anything. For one, ppl will be ppl.

 

[MyMagicMist]

testing people who have been exposed to COVID-19 and have no symptoms

My biggest question is if you've no symptoms and allegedly the one what transmitted it to you didn't either, ... how you going to know you've been *gasp* exposed or not?

*listens to even the crickets stop chirping as he knows damn well no one can say the simple "I don't know" and leave it at that*

Which then leads to the next question. Are people being diagnosed with this stuff arbitrarily since nobody can answer the above question?

"Well, seems you hold the opinion of dissent. You got Covid, you're welcome."

Are we just going to do the whole guilty until proven innocent thing? May as well as it seems even justice does anymore.

Stupid goes all directions.

Again don't take this as me belittling the deaths already had or faced. Don't take it as me denying there is some kind of sickness. In either case I'm not doing that.

What I am doing though is asking patently simple questions warranting straight forward answers. All that's out there is a lot of disinformation, misinformation, bullshit all around. Yes, I look at the "official" stuff as well as what's in the media.

It's been proclaimed we're at war with a virus. Well in war Truth is the first casualty. So, one asks questions to try and determine kernels of Truth, formulate their own view. They also do it to find understanding, which also seems lacking.

I'm sick and tired of being told I'm sick and tired.

 

[The Cromwell]

I don't think testing everyone will fix anything. For one, ppl will be ppl.

No one says to test everyone, just those who have been exposed and those who want testing.
And those working in public contact positions.

Want in person classes with no testing? The University of KY is requiring testing of all students returning to campus. so far 544 positives among the students....

 

[MyMagicMist]

The University of KY is requiring testing of all students returning to campus. so far 544 positives among the students....

Out of how many expected to return? Never mind. Granted this is a bit lagging. Still it lists better indications. So since Aug. 22nd another 290 cases? That would mean roughly 41 cases per day per seven days.

Were another 22,785 tested? If not that likely bumps the positivity rate up to 2%. If so, it drops that rate to around .5%. I might be bad with my numbers but that seems pretty simple enough for me to give it whirl.

 

[The Cromwell]

This is among the students returning to campus who were required to be tested before moving onto campus. So bringing the virus in to spread it in crowed dorms and such.
Not sure if all returning students have been tested yet or not.
But without testing 544 cases would have rapidly spread in a crowded college setting.

 

[Huckleberried]

They're doing the same here in the Ville. Day one had 50 something. Haven't heard the latest.

 

[The Cromwell]

More than 1,200 students have tested positive for Covid-19 at the University of Alabama


Get ready for the 'back to school' covid surge?

 

[MyMagicMist]

Again, I think PBS could be used to even provide college level courses. Again, though it would require the will and leadership to see that happen.

 

[The Cromwell]

Why men shouldn't look at their phone at night: Greater exposure to light-emitting devices after bedtime is linked with poor sperm quality



LMAO

 

[Carambrda]

1. So what do you propose? Anything?...or just preaching darkness. Quarantine all asymptomatic? What about pre-asymptomatic? Test everyone and put them all in one place so they don't transmit to anyone else? Make them stay home and distance and post a guard?
2 and 4 are the same. You say it WILL increase the spread and DRAMATICALLY raise the rate. That's not 100% true. Look at Az, Fla too and I didn't look at them all. The number of cases and deaths are and have been going down without testing everyone. chart
3. You mean like, there's an ulterior motive? What would that be?
5. See 2

I don't think testing everyone will fix anything. For one, ppl will be ppl.

The main reason why the number of cases has to come down at some point eventually is simply because not everyone is stupid enough to disregard basic rules like social distancing, washing hands, limiting number of social interactions, avoiding crowded places when possible to avoid, wearing a face mask, isolating theirself if showing one or two symptoms, and being a bit more careful around those who belong to the high risk group because the elderly are not waste products if you've got at least some human decency left inside you. At the start of the pandemic, too little was known about the virus to not be able to justify a radical approach focussing on proactive measures to combat the spread in order to prevent it from going too rampant like it did in the northern part of Italy that was struck HARD so, partial lockdowns or quasi lockdowns (what we call a "lockdown lite", as we never had a full lockdown unlike what happened in Wuhan...). New insights warrant new strategies, but the basic rules that I outlined above are tactically still valid. A lot of people understand that. Only some will never understand anything as simple as this, as they truly are THAT stupid, but this changes nothing of the fact that most people are not ENTIRELY stupid. The number of cases also comes down, all the way to ZERO cases, if you stop counting them by refusing to test them of course. Kind of like the Earth just disappears in front of you when you close your eyes. That's the ulterior motive. Closing people's eyes to humanitarian problems that, ultimately, remain factual and real. What they call immorality.

 

[Carambrda]

As for why the number of deaths comes down. In part, it's because a person can die only one time.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Why men shouldn't look at their phone at night: Greater exposure to light-emitting devices after bedtime is linked with poor sperm quality



LMAO

This is of no great concern for me. The Kallmann's Syndrome effects the motility rate of sperm. Simply put all mine die off before they even get started. Besides that I don't create enough to be of use.

Yep, like I've said I'm biologically sterile. Look at a phone screen at night or not, no difference for me. I don't because I'm not a cell phone zombie.

 

[Carambrda]

Why men shouldn't look at their phone at night: Greater exposure to light-emitting devices after bedtime is linked with poor sperm quality



LMAO

There's still enough sperm in the freezer anyway.

 

[The Cromwell]

So it appears that the corona vaccine will have to be given in 2 doses around 21 days apart.

1 big does seems to cause too much symptoms.

 

[MyMagicMist]

1 big does seems to cause too much symptoms.

Nah, a big doe is no problem here. Scoot her over to the creek bank, field dress her. Bring her up to the shed with the tractor. Use the rock and cord method to strip her pelt off of her, take her in and butcher her up on the bench. I can field dress a deer in less than two minutes, usually about one if the pocket knife is sharp and I keep some sharp ones.

 

[MrMeowgi]

Nah, a big doe is no problem here. Scoot her over to the creek bank, field dress her. Bring her up to the shed with the tractor. Use the rock and cord method to strip her pelt off of her, take her in and butcher her up on the bench. I can field dress a deer in less than two minutes, usually about one if the pocket knife is sharp and I keep some sharp ones.

Used to have friends call me for the same. Dressing was never an issue for me. Just hate processing the meat. Lol

 

[The Cromwell]

I wonder if the number shootings are up much in the US or is it a case of different venues and targets?
For my state seems to be about the same number as always?

Edit: did some research and yes the number of shootings is up. But not like a total breakdown amount like some seem to think. Darned media hyping for drama impact.
And yes the larger more crowded cities will have the largest increase. Duhh more people in a crowded space, less jobs, etc = more violence.

Gun Violence Archive

www.gunviolencearchive.org

It does look that KY shootings are up a bit but to be expected with the lockdowns, etc. divorces, etc are also up. I guess having to put up with spouse more or not getting to see 'see' the one outside of the marriage one is cheating with?

 

[The Cromwell]

Oklahoma girl, 15, dies of overdose after taking the 'Benadryl challenge' on TikTok in which youngsters take large quantities of the anti-allergy medicine to hallucinate


Damn idiots, I suppose I will have to start showing my DL before long to buy Benadryl like sudafed...

 

[The Cromwell]

Dr. Stephen Hahn, said the FDA was prepared to authorize a vaccine, right, as long as officials are convinced that the benefits outweigh the risks.

Now that is certain to allay any fears the public has about the vaccine being safe to take....

 

[The Cromwell]

Callousness, deceitfulness and manipulativeness - signs of a sociopath - were traits commonly found among people who broke Covid-19 safety rules, according to a study

 

[JuicyLucy]

New member of the Hall of Shame Health Cabin BAIT & SWITCH SCAM

 

[The Cromwell]

I know it seems like this virus thing has gone on forever..
But for most states it has only been going on for around 6 months and is still building, not diminishing.

More than 410,000 people in the US could die from the coronavirus by January 1, more than doubling the current death toll, a new model often cited by top health officials predicted Friday.

This IF we keep up wearing masks and such. For those of us who do so anyway.

If gone back to normal with no masks, etc could be around 600,000 + and up to 3,000 deaths a day.

It takes patience and persistence to win a war. And this is a war that the US is fighting very poorly overall.

 

[The Cromwell]

USA TODAY/Suffolk poll found that about two-thirds of the 1,000 voters surveyed – 67% – would either not take the vaccine until others have tried it (44%) or not take it at all (23%)

Democrats (86%) are more likely than Republicans (61%) to get the vaccine at some point. Men and women were evenly split but the youngest respondents (those under 24) and the oldest (those 75 and older) were the likeliest to get the vaccine either right away or after seeing how the initial immunizations went.

 

[Oliverwilson1987]

More than 1,200 students have tested positive for Covid-19 at the University of Alabama


Get ready for the 'back to school' covid surge?

There is nothing surprising here. Many people ignore the precautions.
And besides, we will all soon get sick with this coronavirus and we won't even need a vaccine

 

[MyMagicMist]

 

[The Cromwell]

There is nothing surprising here. Many people ignore the precautions.
And besides, we will all soon get sick with this coronavirus and we won't even need a vaccine

Hmm what is the total cases in the US 6 million? out of 325 million or so and herd immunity takes at least around 50% infected? Do the maths... Lets see 6 months for 6 million so how long for 150+ million?

And immunity only lasts less than a year per current knowledge on the virus..
Even the vaccines are reportedly only going to last less than a year per current knowledge on them.

And unlike flu there is no corona virus season it just keeps on giving all year long.

 

[Carambrda]

and herd immunity takes at least around 50% infected?

No. Below 50% infected is where you can't even TALK about herd immunity. And, even if you CAN talk about it, then people talking about it will spread more contagious droplets into the air, so... still it's a dead end─with emphasis on dead.

 

[hellcatrydr]

There is nothing surprising here. Many people ignore the precautions.

One of the biggest precautions is to not believe unsourced babble posing as true.
Bold print doesn't make it real, especially if Crommie is involved...
.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Here's a bit of what I learned Friday regarding disinfecting for covid-19.

Here is a listing of disinfecting products that help to curb covid-19. These products will "pop the bubble" of the virus, which will kill it off. Popping the bubble in this case means the cellular membrane "bubble" around the virus' cells. These products are not fully guaranteed though. They are listed only as helpful.

Yes, bleach if the proper proportion can work. 1/3 cup bleach to 1 gallon of water is what has been suggested to custodians. Let this stand ten minutes then wipe down with a damp cloth. This is similar to how we got taught as E.M.T's to wipe down gurneys to nullify the H.I.V virus/es back in the late 1980s to early '90s. Again this is not iron clad guaranteed but holds a high likelihood of killing the nasty crap.

There are two different Lysols(tm) that will in fact guaranteed kill the virus. Getting one's hands on these though is difficult. Most of the product is going to hospitals, elder care facilities and understandably so.Health Department

Even soap and water can do the "trick" but it needs done correctly. C.D.C is mandating children going back to school wash their hands a minimum of four times daily. Hand sanitizers will be used coming and going from classes, getting on and off buses.

Custodians are making rounds every two hours to clean and sanitize restrooms. We also clean and sanitize high touch points ASAP. These include door knobs, door panic bars, light switches and facings, counters. We have access to electrostatic sprayers for hard surfaces using a disinfectant.

Our state map is color coded in four colors. If we go back to school in Yellow but our county goes to Orange we keep kids going. Yellow is 3+ to 5 positive per 100,000, per rolling weekly average. Orange is 5+ up to 7.

Jackson county only has around 29,000 in population. We have roughly 3,000 to 4,000 school aged children, not counting college students. Of that number going back, roughly 20% will be using virtual schooling, staying home. The children are being brought back in waves and at each step everything is assessed before moving on.

We'd like to be Green as this represents a number of 3 or less for our weekly average. That also means we can open up back to normal. Red locks us completely down, even in schools, we let children go home and do not open. Red is 7+.

The colors are also being used to denote if sports can happen. Two counties listed as yellow can have sports with pre-sale tickets for families of players only. Orange, only parents can go see the sport. A Yellow county can refuse going to an Orange county, but will forfeit. Green can do as usual, Red locks it down.

These weekly averages get updated Saturday at 00:00 locally. These are also being added to by daily running totals in WV updated at 10:00 AM local. The numbers are for the past day from 10 AM Monday to 10 AM Tuesday to give an example.

Check your local Health Department websites. Also check your local DHHR sites locally. They are all trying to keep abreast as such. The counties are pulling together to help combat this stuff. The people are leading.

 

[MyMagicMist]

And now for something completely in left field.

 

[The Cromwell]

One of the biggest precautions is to not believe unsourced babble posing as true.
Bold print doesn't make it real, especially if Crommie is involved...
.

Yes ignorance is bliss for many.
Until reality bites a chunk out of their ass

 

[The Cromwell]

On corona virus and what to believe.
Yep do not believe me or any politician.
DO believe medical professionals though.

disclaimer my posts on the subject are based on what medical professionals say not political viewpoints.

And no we will not just wake up one day the the Corona will just be gone.
imho we have at least 1 more year from now of it being a real threat especially to those with risk factors.
Probably more like 2-3 years though.

 

[2WhiteWolves]

PMTA RALLY LIVE

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[The Cromwell]

That had been unusually quiet for the past year or so...
the politician that many thought would save vaping did not.

this election vaping is a VERY minor ballot box issue for the US. Corona, economy/jobs and racial unrest top it by far.

 

[The Cromwell]

More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living with their parents - the highest rate since the Great Depression

 

[Carambrda]

That had been unusually quiet for the past year or so...
the politician that many thought would save vaping did not.

this election vaping is a VERY minor ballot box issue for the US. Corona, economy/jobs and racial unrest top it by far.

So burning Mary Trump's book isn't a major ballot box issue? Hmmm...

 

[The Cromwell]

So burning Mary Trump's book isn't a major ballot box issue? Hmmm...

Nope and neither are the other 3 Damning books. for his supporters.

 

[hellcatrydr]

On corona virus and what to believe.
Yep do not believe me or any politician.
DO believe medical professionals though.

disclaimer my posts on the subject are based on what medical professionals say not political viewpoints..

So all of a sudden you're a big fan of the FDA...
So much trust...

 

[The Cromwell]

So all of a sudden you're a big fan of the FDA...
So much trust...

Still having problems with reading comprehension I see.