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Milania Trump looks like a tranny? On what planet? lmao.
All I gotta say is, if this were a pic taken with Milania as first lady it'd be 3 ferrari's, just sayin'.
I will fuck em all
I did think it was odd that these people are coming forward all of a sudden now when he actually stands a chance.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but are the Democrats the more 'liberal' of the two parties/ to the left? As I notice that there are people speaking about it over here, and most people who are against Trump seem to be far left in their views.
There is actually a history of people speaking out against them ending up dead? And if I have it right, these are meant to be the loving left wing people lol?
EDIT: I should add, I don't think either far left views, or far right views are all correct. I think each has some OK views, then others that are wrong. It is finding a balanced person that is the hard part!
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I've been for Trump since he first announced he was running. Probably one of the few people who never watched "the apprentice" and had no real idea what he was about until watching him run against a few others. Bernie Sanders just sounded like Mort off 'family guy' on steroids and had some crackpot ideas imho. Couldn't stand shillary and still can't.
Hard to pigeon hole candidates though, just because one is running dem or rep. They have far left, far right, center left, center right, Reagan democrats, you name it and they have a wide variety of leanings. Some would say hrc is left, trying to be middle left so as not to run off the independents, at times going far left to try and out-left Bernie to try and get his supporters. Trump is running as a republican, in some ways he's old school conservative without going far right and yet a few of his ideas make him more center left. Back when slick willy was running, he was also a dem but with ideals closer to the right than that of shillary.
I guess I don't care as much since I'm not party bound. I don't vote for/against rep/dem simply because of their party politics. Maybe that's why I've aligned with Trump the best and not all butthurt that he isn't 'another Bush'. I look to the issues, the stances on them and sort out what makes sense based on common sense.
Something I can say for Trump, he echoes what a lot of people think. Not only that but of the few times I've heard shillary squawk from her podium, I've never heard her acknowledge the crowd or any members of the crowd. People shout at Trump rallies and rather than get all pissy or act like some emperor dictating over his minions, his speeches and responses often answer or include what people yell. It tells me he's paying attention and listening, talking more 'with' the people than 'at' them. Someone who uses their script like life support after spending over 3 decades in public office concerns me. It's not that they're shy, it's damage control and why would you need damage control unless you were worried about slipping up and telling the wrong thing to the wrong audience.
Hard to pigeon hole candidates though, just because one is running dem or rep. They have far left, far right, center left, center right, Reagan democrats, you name it and they have a wide variety of leanings. Some would say hrc is left, trying to be middle left so as not to run off the independents, at times going far left to try and out-left Bernie to try and get his supporters. Trump is running as a republican, in some ways he's old school conservative without going far right and yet a few of his ideas make him more center left. Back when slick willy was running, he was also a dem but with ideals closer to the right than that of shillary.
I guess I don't care as much since I'm not party bound. I don't vote for/against rep/dem simply because of their party politics. Maybe that's why I've aligned with Trump the best and not all butthurt that he isn't 'another Bush'. I look to the issues, the stances on them and sort out what makes sense based on common sense.
Something I can say for Trump, he echoes what a lot of people think. Not only that but of the few times I've heard shillary squawk from her podium, I've never heard her acknowledge the crowd or any members of the crowd. People shout at Trump rallies and rather than get all pissy or act like some emperor dictating over his minions, his speeches and responses often answer or include what people yell. It tells me he's paying attention and listening, talking more 'with' the people than 'at' them. Someone who uses their script like life support after spending over 3 decades in public office concerns me. It's not that they're shy, it's damage control and why would you need damage control unless you were worried about slipping up and telling the wrong thing to the wrong audience.
like the Brexit..this election isnt left/right..it's globalisim vs.sovergien nations.
The president or governer in charge when something happens always gets the credit or blame. Regardless if they really have anything to do it the situation
like Bush being blamed for recession and 9/11... the recession he does have partial blame. But part is also due to how money was spent and laws
Were done during WJC administration. Fwiw there was no surplus at any time during the Clinton adm. Contrary to what we are told.
9/11 just happened to soon for the Bushes administration to affect that. And again if Bill had acted the first time they attacked the towers. Then 9/11 would not have happened. Making the wars Bills fault also. No 911 no Irac or afghan wars.
The tech revolution of the ninties would not have happened if not for Reagan and Bush 1 policies.. yet Clinton gets credit because he was president during the 90s.
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If by liberal you mean anti-freedom, comunist or socialist..... you have identified the liberal progressive democrat and progressive repulican.....
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It's POLITICS BRO..
And it's all crap!
TRUMP SUPPORTERS on this thread are very different, some are
RADICALS-PULSEVAPE,SHADES and TIME,All of them wants the System destroyed!
Then you have the REPUBLICANS
Arthur-he doesn't like trump but he's desperate for a new GOP PRESIDENT!
SMOKIE and synphul are true Clinton haters!
Honda is anything but democrat!
Me? I'm a registered republican,and A REALIST!
That's my baby
talk for the day!!Btw
I had a good conversation with folks at the casino last night
REASONS WHY THEY SUPPORT TRUMP
PIPELINE
STOCKS
TAXES
NAFTA
BUSINESS
DEBT
RUSSIA
IMMIGRATION
BORDER SECURITY
MALE CANDIDATE
HES AN ASSHOLE
RICH
STUPID
NEW
NOT A POLITICIAN
ANTI REPUBLICAN
VETERANS
ISIS
TERRORISM
STRONGER CANDIDATE!
BLUNT!
I'm not anti democrat. I am anti Clinton though... Been there done that don't want to take that ride again. I hate the repulican party equally to the democrat party.It's POLITICS BRO..
And it's all crap!
TRUMP SUPPORTERS on this thread are very different, some are
RADICALS-PULSEVAPE,SHADES and TIME,All of them wants the System destroyed!
Then you have the REPUBLICANS
Arthur-he doesn't like trump but he's desperate for a new GOP PRESIDENT!
SMOKIE and synphul are true Clinton haters!
Honda is anything but democrat!
Me? I'm a registered republican,and A REALIST!
That's my babytalk for the day!!
Btw
I had a good conversation with folks at the casino last night
REASONS WHY THEY SUPPORT TRUMP
PIPELINE
STOCKS
TAXES
NAFTA
BUSINESS
DEBT
RUSSIA
IMMIGRATION
BORDER SECURITY
MALE CANDIDATE
HES AN ASSHOLE
RICH
STUPID
NEW
NOT A POLITICIAN
ANTI REPUBLICAN
VETERANS
ISIS
TERRORISM
STRONGER CANDIDATE!
BLUNT!
I am registered as republican. But since I live in California. My vote won't count.. except in local races.
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So you hate the system? Or you hate the people that runs it?
I hate everything about it!
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the last time we have had any significant surplus to speak of was really the Jackson admin. But, that was also the net result of what was done to make, "manifest destiny," a reality. Before I spur the, "indian wars," debate, my grandmother is the daughter of a dutch immigrant and Choctaw preist's daughter. i never met my great grandparents, but we grew up with plenty of pictures, family stories and the never being allowed to hold a 20$ bill. I say the above about my family, to show I'm not ignorant on the reality of it. I may not like the actions taken by the Man( i am well aware of all of them), but the results of his decisions are the reality of what helped to make the country what it is today( for good or bad).
On the tech revolution- that was one of the bigger bubbles in recent history, that financial gain was one of the things that gives people the happy, fuzzy feelings for the Clintons. It was a HUGE missed opportunity, that yes- was on the backs of Reagan and bush1. Had that money not been squandered on entitlements or the businesses spurned from it not seen as a cash cow we would probably be in a different place. Just the way i see it. It was my highschool years, so my memory is a little foggy, but, it appears as though, we had money rushing in, so wjc raised corporate taxes, and then those companies did what they had to do and went overseas.
- its an overly simplified view, but I'm a simple cunt.
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Where I live, most people did vote on Brexit depending on left or right views, and my area also had the highest amount of leave votes in the UK.
In all honesty I am not well versed in politics, and I was looking at things as black and white, that liberal was left, republican right.
I did not realise Liberal was Anti-freedom , if so that does not sound good.
I think if people are genuinely voting for trump for reasons such as being male, or rich, these are not good reasons to vote for him-but that is my opinion, I guess to some people that may be important.It's POLITICS BRO..
And it's all crap!
TRUMP SUPPORTERS on this thread are very different, some are
RADICALS-PULSEVAPE,SHADES and TIME,All of them wants the System destroyed!
Then you have the REPUBLICANS
Arthur-he doesn't like trump but he's desperate for a new GOP PRESIDENT!
SMOKIE and synphul are true Clinton haters!
Honda is anything but democrat!
Me? I'm a registered republican,and A REALIST!
That's my baby
Btw
I had a good conversation with folks at the casino last night
REASONS WHY THEY SUPPORT TRUMP
PIPELINE
STOCKS
TAXES
NAFTA
BUSINESS
DEBT
RUSSIA
IMMIGRATION
BORDER SECURITY
MALE CANDIDATE
HES AN ASSHOLE
RICH
STUPID
NEW
NOT A POLITICIAN
ANTI REPUBLICAN
VETERANS
ISIS
TERRORISM
STRONGER CANDIDATE!
BLUNT!
It is likely I will learn more about each candidate on this thread than I would from the media over here lol.
So, are the main candidates Republican and Democrat? Are there other parties than these? I really don't know much as I said, and is there areas that are in general republican, others democrat, depending on the demographic of the area?
I think the media really shows us what they want us to see or know, so in a way is fake or orchestrated I agree.
I still watch the FAKE MEDIA....
Don't let anybody influence ur vote
When voting, you do need to research and do your best to not be influenced by others, although it is quite hard I think, depending on your and your friends views, a lot of people are influenced without realising.
@conanthewarrior The left currently minus the whole genocide death camp things are just tricksy Nazis without the cool as fuck hugo boss uniforms.. They have tricked the Blacks into entitlement slave mentality to vote for them, kill their children in hordes.. Rowe v Wade is not about the right to choose but to provide fetal tissue to big pharma.
The right has gone all sorts of fucky RINO... which are commie cock sucking democrats labeled as republicans.
So far we have seen paid for racial violence, vote tampering, fraud, shadow government meddling and more corruption than a boil full of MSRA.
The right has gone all sorts of fucky RINO... which are commie cock sucking democrats labeled as republicans.
So far we have seen paid for racial violence, vote tampering, fraud, shadow government meddling and more corruption than a boil full of MSRA.
labor/tory......democrat/republican..........they are the dominant parties..there are smaller parties there are Libertaruans..free market capitalists with a strong individual liberty and consitutionalists agenda....then there is the Green party collectivists egalitrians with a strong socialists agenda.
Both our parties have been co-opted by the globalists and do nothing more than spew rhetoric they dont really believe in.The rank and file right have realized this truth and have committed a revolution within their party by refusing to suppoirt the republican party elites choice of presidential candidates, and have chosen Trump as a symbol of the fact that they no longer trust the men who control the party and recognize them as the enemy of the people, and the enemies of the Republic. these people support having a republic...The Democrats have either not realized that their party has been co-opted by the richest globalists on the planet, or as in most cases they realize it but dont care,they do not believe in individual liberty, they believe in the collective.and they believe if they are good little germans and goosestep in time the democrat party and the globalists will provide for them if not in style at least enough to make their lives tolerable,these people want to end 240 years of the Republic and join a globalists socialist collective like the EU, and as they fear for their economic future thats all they want.and so though the globalist through fraud and even assassinations have stolen the average democrats choice for presidential candidate,most democrats turn a blind eye, because the think if they support the winning side they personally will profit from it, ...whereas a segment of the of democrat voting base mostly young people have been outraged by the theft of the nomination and have realized their party was co-opted by the globalists and are refusing to support Hilary.
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which is why nothing will change.
the electoral college needs restructuring. The voting system as a whole is to easy to be manipulated.
Ho Hum, people still think they have a say in the elections .........
Face it, Hillary is assuming the Throne
http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-no-us-election/
Face it, Hillary is assuming the Throne
http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-no-us-election/
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I agree 100%.
Well Wikileaks Director and Co-founder Dead.
Nope, they're not trying to shut down Wikileaks and cover up are they?
http://emptylighthouse.com/gavin-macfayden-mysterious-death-another-wikileaks-associate-1063138348
Nope, they're not trying to shut down Wikileaks and cover up are they?
http://emptylighthouse.com/gavin-macfayden-mysterious-death-another-wikileaks-associate-1063138348
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i saw Assange on this morning... dude is not backing down
if the hag wins he is dead.
i truly hope he has a thermal nuclear info dump dead mans switch.
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he has said in the past that he does.
i hope he was being truthful.
anonymous has been really fucking shit up too, as of late. One of their videos had indicated that it was in retaliation to protect Assange.
He claims he does. We'll see. MI6 will off him if Killary wins.
well the first narritive the DNC Obama and Hilary played was to ignore the wikileakds dump..they as we know now through wikileaks had control of the mainstream media and they chose to blackout wikileaks......this didnt work.becuase of the internet,the altmedia,and forgien media outlets the word got out and people started hearing about the wikileaks dump......the next narritive the Obama/Hilary mob tried was...its the RUSSIANS....they were hoping on some native visceral level all americans would be naturally resentfull of the dreaded red scare and direct their scorn toward the russians and not at a massively and criminally corrupt Hilary and Obama...this did not work...americans said...who cares who hacked the hag, the bigger issue is that Hilary is a greater threat to the democratic process of America than Putin is. they seemed to think telling the american public the truth was a good thing, and refused to shoot the messenger.......the narritive has now changed once more ......as Hilary, the DNC and Obama are starting to look like third world despots that they are...they have changed the narritive to....you cant trust what you get from wikileaks because they are all lies...the emails have been tampered with..nobody is buying it....so Hilary may well fall back on the old Clinton playbook and have assange killed like she did Seth Rich, but more to the point the people who own Hillary may well assassinate him in order to protect being exposed as the shadow goverment...
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CHANGES YES but it must be kept.... as bad as it is. It is still better than pure majority rule...... you can do majority in a local level fine... just doesn't work nationaly. Unless you like California and New York making all the rules. Trust me California is fucking us all enough.
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which is why i keep saying nothing will change.
its the place where it all begins. unless the electoral college is redistricted we will keep having the same situation.
or you do what the left has done... they have moved people out of cali and into Arizona and Texas. not that its a political party moving people but the people have been priced out of cali and moved into more right wing leaning areas, and with them came the left wing views.
So where is this Hilary landslide narritive coming from? Hell where is this Hilary is even in the running coming from? Seriously my daughter's High School Christmas band pagent pulls in a larger crowd than this.Somebody isd wagging the dog folks. Trump is right its rigged.
I really like when she asked the average Hilary supporter about the newly released videos by project Veritas about election fraud ...the knew nothing..
I really like when she asked the average Hilary supporter about the newly released videos by project Veritas about election fraud ...the knew nothing..
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I've been reading the predictions of riots if Trump wins by the ultra-left zealots, and in the same articles riots by the ultra right and nationalist zealots if Trump loses.
Within all the shit that passes for journalism, there is a grain of truth to it. America is quite polarized. The elitist PC folks vs Ordinary Americans.
Whoever wins, it's the American People that will pay the price. Either in more taxes, lost jobs, and heavy handed government control or an uncharted future with heavy handed government control and constant political unrest and violence.
This election cycle has torn the mask off the main stream media and political parties. Both are corrupt, both are in it for the money, both are making the election of a president a selection rather than an election. It's been that way for a long time, but now American's have seen it with leaked emails and skeletons in closets opened up to the light of day.
If killary wins and opens up the gates to immigration like her Hero Merkel, then there will be massive civil unrest and the beginning of a civil war. If Trump wins, the leftists will go full terrorist and stoke up a racial war. I think we are at a tipping point in the near future.
I hope cooler heads prevail, but knowing America and the intolerance the left has for the right and vice versa, I'm not counting on it.
Within all the shit that passes for journalism, there is a grain of truth to it. America is quite polarized. The elitist PC folks vs Ordinary Americans.
Whoever wins, it's the American People that will pay the price. Either in more taxes, lost jobs, and heavy handed government control or an uncharted future with heavy handed government control and constant political unrest and violence.
This election cycle has torn the mask off the main stream media and political parties. Both are corrupt, both are in it for the money, both are making the election of a president a selection rather than an election. It's been that way for a long time, but now American's have seen it with leaked emails and skeletons in closets opened up to the light of day.
If killary wins and opens up the gates to immigration like her Hero Merkel, then there will be massive civil unrest and the beginning of a civil war. If Trump wins, the leftists will go full terrorist and stoke up a racial war. I think we are at a tipping point in the near future.
I hope cooler heads prevail, but knowing America and the intolerance the left has for the right and vice versa, I'm not counting on it.
The wife and I moved from a just outside DC (where I was raised) to the middle of nowhere in MD a couple years ago. We are in trump country; banners everywhere and signs in all the yards. We are visiting my family where I grew up this weekend. While here we met up with a bunch of friends for a birthday day party and every single one of the them was viciously anti-trump. As soon as his name came up in the conversation, the mood went from happy to pitch forks and torches.
When my wife and I were asked or directed to vote for Hilary, our response, that we know it's a fraud so we won't don't participate, the government carries out all sorts of atrocities and we refuse to co-sign, was met with anger and bewilderment.
It's amazing how two idiots can effect otherwise rational people on such a large scale. People are ready to kill each other over an illusion... it's certainly making for some funny snl skitsz
When my wife and I were asked or directed to vote for Hilary, our response, that we know it's a fraud so we won't don't participate, the government carries out all sorts of atrocities and we refuse to co-sign, was met with anger and bewilderment.
It's amazing how two idiots can effect otherwise rational people on such a large scale. People are ready to kill each other over an illusion... it's certainly making for some funny snl skitsz
They need to get the hell rid of the electoral college. There's no reason people can't direct vote and it's really the way it should be. I call bullshit on the notion it would take too much work, they can't count 330m individual votes (far less when you count who actually votes) every 4 years? Funny they have no issue digging through and requiring taxes from everyone EVERY year. Just look how well things work when it benefits government.
I think the nation's like any family. Can't go keeping all that rage bottled up, raises the blood pressure and causes nervous ticks trying to 'be nice'. Yank the bandaid off and tell each other how we really feel, brutal honesty. Bring on the purge! lol
I think the nation's like any family. Can't go keeping all that rage bottled up, raises the blood pressure and causes nervous ticks trying to 'be nice'. Yank the bandaid off and tell each other how we really feel, brutal honesty. Bring on the purge! lol
Sadly, this is exactly what globalists want: Strife, anger, racial hate, political hate. Why? Because they can come in and fix it with more draconian government oversight and laws while making shitloads of money doing it.
democracy with a huge dependent class is a plebesite who'll continually vote for the state to take a gun put it to other peoples heads and take their money money and give it to them... eventually this entitlment mentality translates to the state taking other peoples free speech and free thought by order of the masses.
fucking bingo...that is why Merkel and Hilary will purposely crash the economy.
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I dont know...I live in Oakland with a large black population......they dont really support BLM, most of the people at those rallies are the sons and daughters of privledged wealthy whites attending blue ribbon Universities...I think you are going to see an end to the GOP as a major force, a big blow to the DNC which they will shore up with illegal mexicans and ISIS fanboys from the ME...I think we are about to witness the rise of the third and fourth parties.
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