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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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HazyShades

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The Constitution was a dandy specification for how government should operate. But the problem with specifications is that they are still subject to interpretation.

Roughly 150 years ago, Lysander Spooner put it this way (paraphrasing): The Constitution either authorizes what our government has become, or it has failed to prevent it. Either way, it has proven to be unfit.

I adhere to strict interpretation of language according to Webster's, especially legalese.
If the governed or those who govern do not understand the official mother tongue
they should be neither governors nor in a position to elect who governs.
 

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The problem with the MOAB is that is is just a few kiloton's short of the destructive power of an atomic weapon, The Little Boy Bomb. That much destructive power can take out an entire city, or blow up a mountain.

There may not be radiation fallout, but the destruction is the same.
Not even close.

MOAB blast yield is 11 tons of TNT equivalent.

Little Boy (Hiroshima) was 15,000 tons of TNT equivalent.

Fat Man (Nagasaki) was 21,000 tons of TNT equivalent.
 

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I adhere to strict interpretation of language according to Webster's, especially legalese.
If the governed or those who govern do not understand the official mother tongue
they should be neither governors nor in a position to elect who governs.
We have an official mother tongue?
 

Zamazam

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Not even close.

MOAB blast yield is 11 tons of TNT equivalent.

Little Boy (Hiroshima) was 15,000 tons of TNT equivalent.

Fat Man (Nagasaki) was 21,000 tons of TNT equivalent.
thought it was 11,000 tons of TNT for the MOAB
 

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And another thing...
If a few of these violent fucktards get shot, they'd have it coming.

But here in Cali, certain classes of people are above the law. Evidently antifa is on the list.
I don't expect that will be cops doing the shooting. It seems that for the most part they've all been told to stand down.
It'll be plain pissed off civilians doing the shooting.
 

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Lauren Southern is one of the smart kids. And that vid is fucking shocking.

How soon before this becomes civil war? Seriously...
Sooner or later these little antifa bitches are gonna fuck around
too close to actual Americans and get shot in the ass.
She had a live periscope feed running the whole time. You saw a couple highlights only in that video. This was the very definition of terroristic tactical action.

23 people arrested today & most of them Trump supporters defending themselves & others.. ANTIFA breaks every law in the book & cops hide in their vans while they attack law abiding citizens. MSMs portray it like it was a leftist protest to get Trump to show his tax returns and Trump supporters attack them. This bullshits gotta stop. ANTIFA is a domestic terrorist organization and it needs to be treated as such.

Next weekend Ann Coulter is speaking at Berkeley....... so next weekend someone's gonna get shot or stabbed since the police are useless. Trump ought to bring in semi Trucks full of Riot Police hidden in the trailers and quietly park them at strategic spots around Campus & City. When it gets real, deploy them to surround and arrest every black block member in the city and the cops for not keeping the peace.

The cops took the right's flags, sticks & shields and they still kicked ANTIFA ass & ran them off this week. The right has to refuse to disarm since the cops are just setting them up for a beating.
 
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You realize of course that such a reaction from the right
is expected and part of the plan..Of course, one need defend oneself but that's just what they want.
No what they want is for you to sit there like a Politically Correct Moron Brainwash by Their Bullshit and allow them to terrorize you into inactivity while they repeatedly beat the living crap out of you and force their will upon you, deny your freedom, and take your rights away. They are conducting a war in the streets and it must be opposed and those who organize and fund it need to be arrested for racketeering and have their funding and wealth confiscated.

They want Trump to use force against them so they can claim that he is a Tyrant while claiming they are victims of oppression. They are nothing less that enemies of the Republic and need to be treated as such, arrested and disenfranchised for criminal rioting just like the mayors of Sanctuary cities need to be arrested for violations of Federal Immigration law,
 

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You do realize that Trump is being sued for inciting to riot at one of his campaign stops?
He first tried the freedom of speech defense, now he is down to immunity as president....

does not even seemed to declare that he is innocent since it was all recorded.
 

Tpat591

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You do realize that Trump is being sued for inciting to riot at one of his campaign stops?
He first tried the freedom of speech defense, now he is down to immunity as president....

does not even seemed to declare that he is innocent since it was all recorded.
The problem is that people like George Sorros and Liberals have been packing the courts for years so they can legislate from the bench to provide cover for these outrageous claims and encourage others to do the same and force society to accept this behavior as legitimate protest when it is nothing less than racketeering, intimidation and subversive behavior.

Those who show up and act like idiots, disrupting events and insulting everyone at an event attended by 10,000+ people accepted the reasonable expectation that their behavior may result in bodily injury when they accepted their assignment from their evil overlords so they can attempt to "Make Law" from the bench and persecute a rival dissenting voice to their power. Simply saying "get them outta here" is not an incitement to riot. The protesters actions were in themselves the incitement. Any court that rules otherwise is unjust and that judge should be impeached.
 
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Zamazam

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No what they want is for you to sit there like a Politically Correct Moron Brainwash by Their Bullshit and allow them to terrorize you into inactivity while they repeatedly beat the living crap out of you and force their will upon you, deny your freedom, and take your rights away. They are conducting a war in the streets and it must be opposed and those who organize and fund it need to be arrested for racketeering and have their funding and wealth confiscated.

They want Trump to use force against them so they can claim that he is a Tyrant while claiming they are victims of oppression. They are nothing less that enemies of the Republic and need to be treated as such, arrested and disenfranchised for criminal rioting just like the mayors of Sanctuary cities need to be arrested for violations of Federal Immigration law,
The goal of these violent idiots is to create a climate of fear where you as an individual will be afraid to voice an opinion not sanctioned by the "progressive" left. It's nothing more than socialism at work. These useful idiots will find that once they push enough people the wrong way, there will be consequences. You notice these violent fucks will not show up or take on Bikers at political rally's? The bikers would simply mop the floor with these Antifa goons.
 

The Cromwell

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Ohh like when Bush was president you were considered treasonous to speak out against him. Well at least until truth about his groups words of mass deception came out and the war dragged on with thousands of troops killed and more maimed...

both party's desire and strive to be above reproach.
And both are pretty despicable.
 

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Stop blaming left or right
They're both evil!
you guys too obvious fanbois for political parties that will not stop until this great country becomes a 3rd world country...stop being hypocrites!!



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I will do the same for any one CONVICTED of sedition regardless of party.
THAT is what separates the thinkers from the sheep.
you're a lying sack of crap Bobby..the left has been committing hundreds of acts of violence against free speech since the campagain and you have been conspicously silent on the issue...You are with her.
 

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The goal of these violent idiots is to create a climate of fear where you as an individual will be afraid to voice an opinion not sanctioned by the "progressive" left. It's nothing more than socialism at work. These useful idiots will find that once they push enough people the wrong way, there will be consequences. You notice these violent fucks will not show up or take on Bikers at political rally's? The bikers would simply mop the floor with these Antifa goons.
I think it goes beyond that..just like on college campuses the totalitarians weekly change what is and is not protected speech or thought..no one knows from day to day what is verboteen by liberal thugs..I think the enviroment it seeks to create is one of teaching people NOT to think, that thinking itself is dangerous.
 

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you're a lying sack of crap Bobby..the left has been committing hundreds of acts of violence against free speech since the campagain and you have been conspicously silent on the issue...You are with her.
HUH?
Her?

If you mean Hitlery, you need to rid yourself of unreasonable party driven hatred.
So much hatred is not good for you.
 

Tpat591

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I think it goes beyond that..just like on college campuses the totalitarians weekly change what is and is not protected speech or thought..no one knows from day to day what is verboteen by liberal thugs..I think the enviroment it seeks to create is one of teaching people NOT to think, that thinking itself is dangerous.
Certainly the message the left has embraced. Utter idiocy.
 

pulsevape

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HUH?
Her?

If you mean Hitlery, you need to rid yourself of unreasonable party driven hatred.
So much hatred is not good for you.
You don't arouse anything close to hatred bobby...contempt, disgust, annoyance ...maybe , but you are such an impotent little jerk off for the most part you don't arouse strong reactions in people...why if you weren't an annoyance you'd be fucking insvisible...like nonfat vanilla.
 

Tpat591

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it appears antifa had their asses handed to them...Jeff Sessions should be shutting down the Berkley Police Department and the DOJ should investigate and jail the mayor of Berkeley for unequal protection under the law.This is Bull Connor and the Klan all over again.
They certainly did, and it was done by thirty or so Proud Boys who were completely disarmed facing a line of ANTIFA throwing bricks, m80s, mortars, tear gas bombs, flag poles, pepper spray, etc.

Patriots all.
 

pulsevape

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They certainly did, and it was done by thirty or so Proud Boys who were completely disarmed facing a line of ANTIFA throwing bricks, m80s, mortars, tear gas bombs, flag poles, pepper spray, etc.

Patriots all.
Yeah and that was after the Berkeley Police Department went out and disarmed the people defending free speech, then those scum in blue went and hid in their police vans while antifa armed with sticks, stones,pepper spray,and m-80s were allowed by the police to descend on unarmed protesters...I will never look at a Berkley Policeman in the same way again, they are scum.
 

Tpat591

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Yeah and that was after the Berkeley Police Department went out and disarmed the people defending free speech, then those scum in blue went and hid in their police vans while antifa armed with sticks, stones,pepper spray,and m-80s were allowed by the police to descend on unarmed protesters...I will never look at a Berkley Policeman in the same way again, they are scum.

They even made them take the poles off the Blue Lives Matter flags!


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I thought the MOAB was a FAE weapon..

I don't know. They really don't tell us how it works, LOL.

But from what I've seen, the videos, it just looks like a really big bomb. Thermobaric bombs are confused with small nukes, IMO, when Israel drops them. Of course, Israel doesn't tell us what the bombs they drop are either, but there is video. Most on youtube are from people claiming they are nukes, but they look like fuel air. The "lightning" the guy in this video claims proves a nuke, looks like extraneous fuel from a fuel air bomb burning off to me.


I can't imagine any bomb that uses atmospheric oxegen not having a huge and extended visual fire like the above video and the video of the MAOB has no extended flame with the explosion which leads me to believe it uses Oxides in the mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&v=f_gk49n5djw&hl=en-GB

But, I'm just talking out my ass. I don't know and they don't tell us what they are made of. LOL. They have not said it was FAE.
 
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